Most Russians literally LARP though, and (((cultural))) Christians are worse than atheists

Most Russians literally LARP though, and (((cultural))) Christians are worse than atheists.

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there is literally nothing wrong with cultural christians. I think its important that white people have our rituals and traditions like going to church on as a family

Atheism in Russia is at some extreme levels you dont want to have. Real one, not western contrarian fedora tipping. Many of these atheist call themselves Christian and even visit the church, but you wont be able to find someone more godless. Insane levels of drug abuse, abortions and aids is direct result of that. This is what communism does.

They are a massive country 30 years out of a culture of extreme and vehement anti-theism. Give them a break, m8.

Except for the whole not being Christian thing.

Is Tzar Nicolas really a saint there?

She should be sainted. Then we'd all go visit the Church of Saint Natalia.

It's strange, Tzar Nicholas II, his wife, and his five kids are considered saints in Russian Orthodoxy.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonization_of_the_Romanovs

I honestly don't trust Russian Orthodoxy's claim to authority here so I would heavily doubt it but it's interesting to see how the Russians react to Bolshevism now.

Technically all Christians are considered saints it only seems like a status symbol because Catholics only ever reference specific people as saints.

Saints are people in heaven. Natalya is alive.

That's just a bunch of old commies dying of cirrhosis

>commies (staunch atheists, anti-theists) dying
>related to atheism dropping

?

Being Rusyn Orthodox (a group was converted the same time as Russia and nothing changes in the mountains so we haven't changed much since mass conversion) I only understand that communism spelled the end of organized religion in Russia. The family is canonized for defending Orthodoxy in Russia.
This might just be a difference of theology but there is a very specific set of prerequisites that a person needs to meet (most of them in/after death) in order to be remembered a saint.

Actually, wait. It's fucking late and I'm retarded. Excuse me.

no. a saint must be beatified nigger. in catholicism they have to have performed some type of miracle and go thru a whole process to be canonized.

I'll take forgiveness in the form of you dropping your tripcode.

That's how Americans are too though.

That's how most of the world is actually, even Muslims.

You're mistaken.
A saint in any church is someone in Heaven. However Canonized Saints are the dead that the church teaching authority declares with their authority to be in heaven. This goes through a process, as you mentioned.

My tripcode exists without cause.

Would convert to Orthodox Christianity for Natalya, she is way too perfect

Cummy in mummy

Romania is the same.We have record levels of Churches being constructed everywhere, the largest Orthodox Cathedral is being erected in Bucharest, we have one of the most religious society in Europe ( more than 95% declare themselves Christian)

Yet we also have levels of degeneracy records high in our entire history.

>AIDS and drug addiction rise 50% in Russia
Coincidence? Much like the rise of evangelicals in America lead to a rise in infant mortality and the return of long gone diseases like smallpox, plague, polio and mumps thanks to idiots who don't believe in vaccines.

I know nothing of the history and culture of Romania. How does that happen?

orthodoxy is even more idolatrous than catholicism, literally worshipping paintings what the fuck

not to mention the long history the russian orthodox church has in helping to oppress the peasantry

The was really no eastern european country where you were banned from going to church, especially during the late comunism years
>religion was banned as in the state was now above god, no religious holidays etc
>church numbers were limited, that included demolition
>most priests were spooks so people snitched
>you could have been picked up for going to church but in most cases only if you held some status

Varg?

Communism for 50 years
Post-communist jungle for 25 years
Jews gaining control of the state after 1989, and starting implementing degeneracy through mainstream media.
Romanians having a massive inferiority complex in front of the west, and start emulating western degeneracy, thinking if we become as decadent as them we will become as wealthy and successful.

I could go on for ages. The traditional, eastern Europe ceased to exist in the early 2000s

Russians don't go to the church with families apart from fundies. People say they do, but they actually don't. It's all LARPing through and through.

Also, does that statistic specify Islam and Buddhist regions of Russia? No? Just "The percentage of Russians identifying themselves as atheists"?

fuck off then

it makes it quite easy for them to guide the american people into another war.

This, the Romanian Orthodox Church owns a lot of land throughout Romania and separation between church and state can be better, i do't know why people want to institutionalize them more and tax them, just completely cut gov funds.
>how did this happen
Romania was christian orthodox almost from it's inception, even old folk stories revolve around that.

That's horrible horrendous, I'm so sorry m8.

Pathetic.
Keep begging a sky daddy for a change, while the entire system fucks you over. Keep begging him to cure your child, when an idiot with a fake degree cripples him. Keep begging him to give you manna when you can no longer afford enough food.
Truly a nation of slaves.

And the aids rate? Buy some truvada patriarchs. Dont work on the wimminz too good though

Kazakhstan knows what's up.

yeee this is it boi this is when christianity finally makes a comeback praise jesus

[spoiler]as living conditions and educational level improves worldwide, religions, especially the abrahamic continues to recede as those of a certain educational level does not need god to understand their place in the universe[/spoiler]

I'll take it! Mnohaja L'ita my new Ortho-bro!

No. Saints are only those who are in heaven. No one still alive be can be a saint and not all christians go to heaven as many christians are faithless apostates

Time for my mummy folder to be unleashed.

Spoilers don't work on Sup Forums, newfriend.

You're confusing the rise of Modernity in the west and its education with the effects of education generally. It's very obvious that people more educated by groups that support Metaphysical Naturalism and western Europe's concept of "religion" will be more supportive of Naturalism and view religion the same way.

Also, while this should be obvious, Russia got better educated between 1960s USSR and today. Meanwhile Atheism is falling. This works against your claim.

Found the muslim

Im tempted to say it's good but did they really change or did is it rather superficial?

it's probably still a good development, maybe a recognition that atheism is clearly false

but unfortunately it's only in Russia. We know that the Russians are head and shoulders above us at this point

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It seems to be a mix. Church attendance is rising, but not by nearly the same amount as actual claims of being Christian. They are not even 30 years out of a culture that was vehemently anti-theism so its still somewhat superficial.

>Russia got better educated between 1960s USSR and today. Meanwhile Atheism is falling.

Can you please just stop talking about things you evidently know nothing about? Holy shit fucking western Russiaboos you are the worst. Pathetic xenophilic cucks.

not an argument

go worship a painting lol

Cultural Christianity is worse than actual Christianity but it is definitely much better than Atheism.

Matthew 5:28

m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj6y1QFkV6M

This woman possessed by Batman.

It's interesting how some post-soviet countries like Pooland and Romania are very religious while others like Czech and Bulgaria are very irreligious

>Can you please just stop talking about things you evidently know nothing about? Holy shit fucking western Russiaboos you are the worst. Pathetic xenophilic cucks.

Okay, so which claim is wrong? Did education not improve between now and 1960s Russia or is Atheism not falling?

>Russiaboo

Lolwat
How do you get that image at all. Forgive me for thinking that education in the country improved in 60 years time?

I appreciate her beauty. I don't want to have sex with her. I don't think about women that way any more.

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There is definitively an element of returning to lost culture.

lies

so you are a homosexual now?

Good for you user.
I think he means that he can look at women and have a reasonable internal reaction to beauty that isn't sex-oriented.

Thank you Dixiebro.

You got it dad.

>1600 people asked
Wow literally nothing
It's actually the other way around there, the youth is very atheistic.

White Anglo here doing my part to never have children and make sure minorities hate me. Have fun in the future.

Economy has dropped 50% since 2014 and the level of faith is growing. Coincidence?

I want to see those two 69ing. Tongues buried in each other's twats. Mmmmmmmm

The Russian education improved precicely when the Church was removed from the aspect of life completely. Now they quickly inflitraed universities again riding on Le Christian Russia LARP and made them a fucking joke.

This

>The Russian education improved precicely when the Church was removed from the aspect of life completely. Now they quickly inflitraed universities again riding on Le Christian Russia LARP and made them a fucking joke.

Well that time was during the USSR, right? So you would be saying "no" to whether education improved between the 1960s and today in Russia?

fuck you cynics, you're the real threat to the motherland
change must come from within, it begins and ends with you
all you do is perpetuate all the things that are wrong
how I fucking wish the whites would've won that damn civil war
you're negative narrow perspective diseased way of thinking wouldn't have ever been incepted

You do realize most of them are just larping, right? And I wouldn't trust their statistics so much if I were you. They have a reputation of changing numbers here and there.

Fuck off back to mexican't, degenerate.

>You do realize most of them are just larping, right?

What makes you say this? You have evidence that this study misses?

146% of Russian population voted for Putin at some point. Let that sink in.

probably because of the abuses people have to hide it

big load of bullshit

>confederate flag

oh look, now we have a so-called christian who also supports chattel slavery

ridiculous

Okay, and how does that mean that there is larping?

>who also supports chattel slavery
Came out of fucking no where.

She's old, you'll be in your prime and she'll be a dried up babuska

Listen, the American Jeebus may be a cool guy, but the Eastern Orthodox God teaches you to obey, endure any kind of shit without questioning why does the shit happen and pray for divine gibsmedats as much as possible. Religion has always been the cancer of our society, a tool for the elites to keep us neck deep in shit.
Just stay out of it and mind your own first world business. What is good for X is not necessarily good for Y.

Oh dear, you seem irritated.

You see, I use the Confederate flag as a slightly more specific version of the IP American flag.
That way people understand my location a little better, also some of my cultural background.

I assure you I have no interest in chattel slavery nor do I have any personal conflicts with the Civil War in general.

It's cultural you numbskull. Do you really think that Russians suddenly became religious but didn't change in any other way at all since the fall of the SU? No.
The explanation is simple: the Kremlin is pushing religion as a uniting factor, as they have lost pretty much all others there.
The nubmbers are doctored. The higher the number they push is, the more people will take it for fact.
You western Russiaboos are the worst. Stop taking about things you don't understand.

you can't prove that someone's larping that's the point in a way, but like another user said, yes church attendance rises but so does prostitution, porn, divorce, aids, smoking, drinking etc. People see church as a club, and that's bad because they pay more attention to the protocols and social norms rather than to the morals or values.

>being this butthurt about atheists

show mommy where the bad atheist btfo'd you

To Orthodox, icons are direct lines of communication to the saint, that's why they're painted in the same way, and blessed in the same way. To Catholics, their icons are just pretty pictures, and their statues of the Virgin Mary are respectful of her, but not idols. I see statues and the 'pretty pictures' as idols.

Orthodoxy itself has some merit, and the unsanctioned Orthodox churches were doing some good, but the Russian state church is just a pale shell and mockery of the intent. It's unfortunate they criminalized the proselytizing of other denominations.

Oh well, they have some nice cathedrals.

Moron. A strong white cultural christian nation is fucking 10 times better than some born-again religious shithole.

I'll admit your pick related is odd, I've never enjoyed the idea of sending my kids to a bible-rock fest or showing them christian television; mostly because it doesn't reflect worship in a way that is accurate to the actual thing.

I have my doubts that my religion is being used to subvert me. Given that most Americans don't even know I exist.

I didn't hear about that, link? It sounds concerning.

Divorces are not going up.

Interesting, what's the % of muslims?

Remove africa and asia and the world is basically saved

you dont worship the painting ,you worship the person who is depicted on the painting

The proselytizing thing? Sure:

washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/09/20/missionaries-struggle-to-work-in-russia-under-new-law-that-bans-proselytizing/?utm_term=.10deb628fab4

Archive: archive.is/l4qDf

Plenty of stuff out there on it. Bill was passed in the middle of last year. They started cracking down on protestants, mormons, and even unsanctioned orthodox churches. Fines and incarceration.

I assume some of it was to reduce CIA infiltration, but otherwise it seems pretty Orwellian.

>It's cultural you numbskull. Do you really think that Russians suddenly became religious but didn't change in any other way at all since the fall of the SU? No.

Of course not, see I understand the government push but your explanation is literally just a guess. I'm working purely on the numbers. You say the numbers are false. I'm not against the idea, the sample isn't much anyway - Only 1600 - but you'll have to actually give some proof else I'll just chalk it up to denial. As refusal to accept claims without reason is tantamount TO denial. Especially when the organization who did it is not of the government.

>Russiaboo

You're being ridiculous.

>butthurt
We're glad to see bad things go away. At least some of us are. The people fighting in this thread and getting upset definitely aren't the Christians.

I am by no means supporting organized religion, a way to keep the masses subjugated and control their thoughts. There are ways of having faith, true faith and not blind faith, outside of their circlejerk. I am condemning your cynicism, which is a byproduct of their negative influence, and is only perpetuating a miserable cycle. To find a way out, you have to start from inside, and broaden your perspective.

>mind your own first world business
bratish, who the fuck are you taking me for?

Don't be disingenuous here. I said nothing of race and its effects on capability. I am speaking of what is loss. And of course you say nothing of a country just calling it "culturally christian" as you didn't clarify what its main view actually is and classify actual religious groups by denomination (those that support being "born again" ala Evangelical Protestantism) that would be hated by most every Christian on Sup Forums.

Ha, good question.

>I am by no means supporting organized religion, a way to keep the masses subjugated and control their thoughts.

By Sup Forums terms, that's the blue pill view m8.

Meanwhile is just r/atheism material.

>r/atheism material
An American acting like he knows something about the outside world and telling others what is best for them, how typical.

I see you're still clinching your teeth at everyone eh Wolfshiem.

How's the family going?

Whatever happened to Sakura-hime?

Referencing American arrogance isn't an argument.

And this is a prime example, seeing as you don't actually confront anything I have said and strike at a phantasm of his own creation while feigning superiority.

How about we not talk through one another and have proper discourse, if you wish to talk at all?

I can't provide an argument when I'm not given one.

Oh uhh yeah uhh maybe it's cuz uhhh OP is talking about athiest

Sadly it comes up often given the influx of Reddit since 2016. This was an interesting article to come up upon, though.

Family's doing well, man. Attempting to plan a birthday dinner within the week and generally being well. You?

>Sakura-hime
?

Fair.
It ought to be noted that you're drawing conclusions on belief systems (some of which have been around for millennia) based on your maybe thirty year old view of how society operates.