Were Romans white?
I was watching a documentary on the fall of Rome and they mentioned how when the Empire was being invaded by the Germanic and barbarian tribes, the Romans citizens didn't want to integrate with them and still considered them savages.
My question is how were the Romans able to tell who was Romans and who wasnt? Many of these foreign people learned to speak latin.
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Romans were Somalian. They even found roman cuttlery beneath a town in Somalia. Somalia is where the last true Aryans fled to when the germanic plaugue ridden tribes and Polish huns destroyed the empire. Dont worry though Europe's true rulers will return and take back their home from the invaders.
What are you talking about? You can't tell the difference between a German and Italian nine times out of ten? And that's not even accounting for the fact that these people would have dressed differently, spoke Latin with an accent if at all, have completely different frames of reference and completely different worldviews.
This. OP is a faggot.
Romans have darker features, like anyone on the Mediterranean. Barbarians would have been bigger, messy curly hair, probably blond, red, light brown. Blue and green eyes on some.
Obviously the Huns would have looked Asian.
Always thought I was 100% Italian until I looked up my family history. It turns out one of my ancestors from about a thousand years ago(give or take), was a sort of Duke in the Roman Empire who was French.
>I looked up my family history. It turns out one of my ancestors from about a thousand years ago
How do you look up your family history from that far back?
I just signed up for a free trial for Ancestry.com and I was only able to go back to 2 generations ago
Sometimes your last name has a lot of history attached to it not sure if that's the deal with this guy though.
Sup Forums thinks they were but they were civic nationalists in a big melting pot from Europe and nothern Africa mostly.
>last name
I figured as much but what if you have a very commin last name?
I have one of those Portuguese last names that are named after some sort of tree
saged
Before the Arabs had invaded north Africa and had that admixture though and they were based out of north Africa they ruled over north Africa.
Well actually, we already knew, Everyone in my family always talked about a castle in ruins somewhere in Italy that apparently was still in existence. They didn't know he was French though or any details. So I looked it up. I did it well over ten years ago, on whatever family history search site was popular at the time. I think it might have been ancestry...im really not sure though.
You're probably out of luck from just looking on the internet I'm pretty fortunate that I can just look up my last name and trace my ancestry to the 900s.
They weren't based out of north Africa*
>tfw took Ancestry test and found out my dead grandma's last name was Nixon
Its true, and sometimes whole towns would use the name of the whoever ruled the area too. So who knows .... just going on the info I could get... I really don't want do the dna test.
the closest people living today to the romans gentically are the sardinians
>My question is how were the Romans able to tell who was Romans and who wasnt
Names? Families?
mostly, but there were other skin coloured people that were considered "romans". the important distinction to make would be between "citizens" (what we imagine romans were) and "freed people" (slaves that bought their freedom/ were set free).
>Were Romans white?
no, they were fucking gypsies.....
what kind of retarded question is that even?
>My question is how were the Romans able to tell who was Romans and who wasnt? Many of these foreign people learned to speak latin.
the same way you spot a foreigner nowadays; you're from the US so i will assume you're retarded, but people who speak different languages have distinguishable accents when speaking a second language such as latin let alone clothing, customs, etc
fucking americans
Romans are distinct tribe from the etruscans.
According to natsoc ahnenerbe they initially were a germanic but they were mixing with othwr races so thwir genetic stock dissolved then they were invaded by celtic and germanic tribes various times... italy is fucking melting pot with a unique stock also very interwsting happy birthday duce
>Romans are distinct tribe from the etruscans.
>According to natsoc ahnenerbe they initially were a germanic but they were mixing with othwr races so thwir genetic stock dissolved then they were invaded by celtic and germanic tribes various times... italy is fucking melting pot with a unique stock also very interwsting happy birthday duce
stop learning history from stormfags
The romans were as germanic as much as the greeks were persian
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WUZ
ROMANZ N SHEIT
An important thing to remember with the Roman empire is that by and large it didn't replace the peoples it conquered, so people were different in different parts of the empire. The highly specialised nature of the Mediterranean economy under the Romans also further created divides between the kinds of people who lived in certain areas.
To the point though. In the period you're talking about (the latest part of the empire I'm assuming) the Roman army was made up of many frontier peoples, most who had family on both sides of the limes, the dividing lines between empire and barbarian. Pretty much everyone spoke Latin in the west, but the interesting thing was that the army likely spoke a blend of Latin and the most dominant Germanic tongue at the time, which near the end was mainly Gothic. Even those who weren't Germanic would pick up those Germanic words because if you were in the army that was more your life than being a "citizen" of the empire. Added to that was Diocletians law that you had to take up your father's occupation, which further institutionalised a distinct army culture. So a barbarian with some knowledge of Latin would sound like a Roman soldier to most people.
Regional and class differences also existed in the use of Latin, but until the empire dissolved these were likely about as distinct as the differences in English accents.
Your point that people didn't want to integrate with barbarians when they ruled is not quite true though; the Romans are a very good analogue for westerners today. Some were disdainful, others fully embraced the styles and vernacular of the barbarians to the point that we have more archaeological evidence of "barbarian" styles on the Roman side of the frontier than on the Germanic side. Hell, even before Rome fell there were rich snobs slumming it in leathers, furs, pants, and close-toed shoes.
Basically, in Sup Forums terms, Rome was cucked.
lolwut
Based Mayflower master race reporting in.
this. it really depends. some of it you have to go through old records look up census, go to cemeteries and other things and find it yourself. my grandma is pretty into this so she goes all around looking for people related to us. if you happen to fall into a royal line it becomes a lot easier as their lineage is usually morel likely to kept around in document and stuff.
They waz khangz
>How do Italians tell who is Italian and who is a German
Are you retarded?
>Napoleon born in Corsica, an island north of Sardinia
hmm Napoleon genetically roman?
Furthest I've been able to research back is crusaders returning from the first crusade.
>How do Italians tell who is Italian and who is a German
Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't there plenty of fair skin, blonde/ redhead romans?
Wasn't augustus one of them?
Romans were Olive.
Depends what you mean by Romans.
Ethnic romans? Yes, they're still practically the same (barring recent migrants) in Italy.
The Roman citizens? Not necessarily as Rome owned the majority of Europe, North Africa, Levant, etc.
Not too say aryan people aren't found in these groups, but not necessarily.
>inb4 snownigger Varg worshipper claims that romans were nordics.
In cases like those, the family has usually done its own record keeping.
My family hasn't kept records for anything, so I can only go back two generations.
Romanes eunt domum.
Yes, there's blonde/redheaded people in different parts of Europe throughout the ages before say German invasion. There were even Celts, for example, in Anatolia you may know them as the Galatians, one of the first people St. Paul converted.
Another thing to do, I don't know if protestant or orthodox churches do this, but ask your local catholic church (assuming you're in Europe) of they have any family records.
They are goat fuckers.
But their shores are tight.
>Romans/Italians/Sicilians are not white threads
www geocities ws/racial_reality/italians.html
>My question is how were the Romans able to tell who was Romans and who wasnt?
See, in real countries with real races and real cultures, people are very distinct one from another, and these differences are often noticed on sight.
This is something that cultureless mongrels cannot comprehend.
tere's plenty of fair skin, blonde/ redhead italians
as well as swarthy germans
Yes, and there still are blond haired blue eyed Italians. Can you not tell who is a White Canadian and who is a White American? That ethnic difference is smaller than the difference between a Italian and a German, yet it is still pretty obvious.
Awesome.
>They are goat fuckers.
We have mostly sheep.
You really think a full blooded French could do what he did??
Sardinians have nothing to do with Romans. Completely different people who had no connection when Rome was born.
We Sardinians are not romans, we had our own civilization before them and an indipendent kingdom after them
The coastal sardinian may have some Italic DNA together with a phoenician one though
We don't have goats btw
>thousand years ago
>roman empire
Wat
>duke
>roman empire
Wat
>french
>roman empire
Wat
>The coastal sardinian may have some Italic DNA together with a phoenician one though
Phoenician had some villages in the middle of Sardinia too. But being only a city state I doubt they left such huge imprint on us.
Definitely could not tell who was Germanic and who was Roman.
Germans ran around shirtless yelling
'BAR BAR BAR BAR'
and raping women and children. Pretty easy to spot.
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Probably meant Holy Roman Empire but user was too distracted by anime tiddies to remember correctly.
True (tm) Romans were at first the patrician families, to differentiate themselves from the incoming nu Romans.