Legitimately, why is universal (free) healthcare such a bad idea when it works in much smaller nations...

Legitimately, why is universal (free) healthcare such a bad idea when it works in much smaller nations? Why is it such an issue in America? Especially by Republicans (who are hypocritically 100% in support of free healthcare for themselves and the rich - see John McCain)

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Resources are not and will never be free.

Ummmm, what is air for $500 Alex?

You have to buy your own gun.

>John McCain
>Republican

The us government basically doesn't do anything well at this point and literally everything is politicized.
That is not a recipe for a good single payer system.

Lefty memes for the win brother x) we def need to grab a drink sometime

Healthcare is the labor of another person.

Most places
>Get hurt
>Oh wow, that was not fun, let's not do that again

American Mindset
>Gets hurt
>Oh wow, so I can hurt myself as many times as I want & be covered? Kickass!

Tax money goes to "clean air programs", thus making it literally not free.

Because it doesn't work on a large scale. Besides, we routinely have people from other countries fly into the US for treatments because we have the best. Why would they do this if their system is so great?

Funny how the government supports our right to buy an item thats supposed to kill and injure people when in war or committing a crime to compensate for small anatomy, yet refuse to provide basic medical needs to the poor, sick and old.

I haven't cringed this hard since the Hillary "whip and nae nae" video

>Why is it such an issue in America?

BECAUSE OUR GOVERNMENT HAS INTERNATIONAL RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP THE DOLLAR STABLE AND THUS WE ARE TOO BROKE TO PAY FOR IT. Holy fuck, we're not like other countries. We can't go bankrupt and have responsibilities.

The world economy could literally collapse if we cause the dollar to inflate by passing universal healthcare, but you probably don't care because you're low IQ and only care about feeling good about yourself and collecting gibs.

>Funny how the government supports our right to buy an item thats supposed to kill and injure people when in war or committing a crime to compensate for small anatomy
They don't have a choice.

Taxation is a needed evil which is why anyone who evades it deserves to be beaten into a pulp.

You're telling me that you'd support brown, dirty air?

You can buy whatever healthcare you want

>Tsuyu
>Communism
Stop this horrid meme

>people with modest healthcare needs want a privatized system were you pay for what you need
>people with significant healthcare needs think everyone else should provide for them

Shocking, right?

Yes they do.

Stop gun sales and use the money saved from it to fund universal, free, comprehensive healthcare.

>Works in much smaller countries
There you go, you've established one of the main working criteria for universal healthcare. Providing "free" healthcare for over 300 million people would cause massive strain on the infrastructure due to costs, the availability of employees, the type of injuries that people would exploit the health system for and among others. It is simply not feasible. The biggest detriment is the effect it would have on medical personnel's health. They need care as well, they aren't invincible.

>Pay hella taxes for abortions and genital mutilation
>BUT IT'S FREEEEEE GOY

you're not entitled to another person's labor

No, what I am telling you is air is not actually free, as was claimed.

>Being this much of a brownnose
Embarrassing

You're free to buy guns and you're free to buy healthcare.

We believe in the individual's freedom to purchase guns. We also believe in the individual's freedom to purchase healthcare. What was the point of the meme?

She's a liberal, not a conservative or communist.

Do you think she would have voted for a racist, orange, immature poopface with a fat arse?

>Passes universal healthcare in the US
>US dollar hyperinflates, devaluing hundreds of countries that peg to it to ensure their currency is stable
>mass global famine

THIS IS WHY COMMUNISM (and socialism) NEVER WORKS

>have to pay for guns
>have to pay for healthcare
where's the inconsistency?

Positive right vs negative right.

It is peoples' natural right to own a weapon. Not being able to take away someone's natural right is a negative right. It requires no effort or resources.

On the other hand, paying for some tranny to get a dick chop or for Tyrese to get surgery after being shot robbing a store or for some 80 year old to get their 20th heart transplant, requires a large amount of resources and isn't beneficial to society as a whole because it redistributes wealth from the fit and productive to the unfit and unproductive.

You're free and encouraged to go out and purchase health insurance right now.

the nations where it worked where homogenous white and devoid of degenerate fags, trannies and other aids hives

You never read shit, so it's pointless to post in these threads.
Jobs, basically. According to NPR one in eight people work in healthcare. npr.org/2012/03/19/148939366/u-s-health-care-workforce-larger-than-ever
So, now all those people become government workers. But we don't need that many, so half are laid off. That's one in four people. What do you do with unemployed doctors, nurses? Massive unemployment? Can't afford it. It would create a housing crisis (even doctors and nurses have mortgages)
Blah blah. Not wasting any more time on an idiot who can't reason something so simple.

Free healthcare is the skilled labour of others, a commodity rather than a right. Republicans do support the rights of people to obtain healthcare however, which is a right. The right to own weapons is a right, not a demand for free guns or some other form of commodity. Very simple.

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>freedom to buy your own nerf guns
>but no freedom of government buying you juice?

This just the retarded thing ever.

>Stop gun sales and use the money saved from it to fund universal
Specifically how much money would be saved?

>free
There is that word again. It would not actually be free.

>comprehensive healthcare.
What specifically leads you to believe the federal government as currently composed under Donald trump would do a good job administering this?

This cunt. "The government allows you to buy something...so they should be forced to provide something unrelated."

Uhhh yes I am since doctors CHOSE to be doctors to serve the people, no matter their payment ability (see the Pythagorean Oath). If they don't like it, then either they go to jail for negligence or don't become doctors.

It isn't a field for snowflakes.

Oh yeah, I forgot to pay the toll whenever I breathe sometimes....

lol they're fucking shit.

Always the same old "Question" based posts with the anime pic and stupid expression, or the stupid "Consider the following" ones.

Desperately trying to fit in, which makes you stick out like a sore thumb.

Fuck off, pansies.

>smaller nations
>america

Fucking kys
I'm not paying for some grape drank ass niggers diabetes treatment

Say you only go to the hospital 1-4 times a year, but there's a obese lard man that goes there all the time, and needs ridiculous amounts of medication. You are funding his retarded life style, going out of your own pocket.
You'd pay so much less if there isn't "free health care".

I fucking hate this meme.

Because universal healthcare isn't "provided by the government", just distributed. The resources necessary for universal healthcare are provided by tax payers, without their consent. Funny enough the people who advocate universal healthcare the most are those who would contribute the least to this system. The poor, the sick, the lazy. We have this thread every day. Sage.

>smaller nations
You answered your own question.

There are a few people who are legitimately anti-statism who are truly committed to small government.

Most, however, are just fine with mass surveillance and torture. These fuckers just want to keep poor people poor on principle, and don't really care about "big government". They really are just awful people, as far as I can tell. Even though universal healthcare would save money, it's not worth the loss of power that making people's lives better would entail.

Like Sweden? But you racists with small dicks told me that it was full of Muslims!!!

Which fake agenda will you promote? Because you can't promote both kinds of woo-woo at the same time!!

>Pythagorean Oath
Made me lol

Yeah because letting him die on the street is soooo much more humane, right?

Idiot.

>Republican
>John McCain
Pick one... the boy is a fucking RINO

Also, the PEOPLE don't want it. The healthcare scam was always being pushed to the people through Republicans and Democrats, but voters hated it. But once king nigger pushed the scam, the nigger voters wanted it. Now they all regret it. There's a liberal Somalian at my job that talks about how terrible Obamacare is every fucking day. His pills he needs costed 65 dollars before Obamacare, now they cost 3000 dollars.

If you're talking about a single-payer system, it's probably better than Obamacare, but you're just opening another can of worms. The government fucks up EVERYTHING they touch.

>Pythagorean Oath

Topkek.

You're a LARPing, either 15 and don't understand the world yet, or are utterly retarded. In case it was one of the latter two--
it's the Hippocratic Oath.

There is t a government guns program is there? If so let me know know!

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You are oversimplifing things. You have the freeedom to buy insurance, just like i have the freedom to buy a gun. If you believe that freedom to healthcare includes tax payers to pay for it, then you also believe that tax payers should pay for my guns.

I literally haven't been to the hospital in my life, I'm not fucking paying for some obese dindu to get diabetes amputations

republicans believe in the freedom to speech
but not the freedom to cut my own dick off.

Yeah - the government handing out free guns to criminals so that they can execute people is called "the police".

freedom to have guns doesn't mean the government pays for your guns you fucking commie

>Why is it such an issue in America?
Niggers.

I am an idiot replying to your bait I guess.
But there are people with this beyond retarded sense of altruism.

>t. a literal retard

>American logic

Because it costs alot of money. You end up paying for unhealthy people and drug addicts hospital stays, thanks to the tax payer.

The majority of medical innovations come from america and the reason its expensive here is extra liquidity provided by forcing people into insurance plans. In Europe they don't actually pay for everything they simply dont give you healthcare they can't afford.

>Oh yeah, I forgot to pay the toll whenever I breathe sometimes...
If you pay taxes (I have my doubts) you pay for your air.

>yet refuse to provide basic medical needs to the poor
they are poor for a reason

they make poor choices, probably smoke ciggarettes and drink booze everyday. Maybe they even do heavy drugs.
I don't want to pay their medical bill when they go to the hospital 5 times a year and i go maybe once but yet they get it for free?

NO FUCK THAT

"it works in much smaller nations" there your point right there

No. You have to pay for when the life of a child is at stake. I refuse to pay for your metal trash so that you can pretend to be Rambo in order to compensate for a small penis.

Two different things.

stop bringing Tsuyu into this
shes too pure for this bullshit

People sky dive and bungee jump
The see something go wrong and person die...consistently

Repeats

People sky dive and bungee jump
The see something go wrong and person die...consistently
War happens
people say no war
then people go and fight another war
people say no war
War happens
then people go and fight another war

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So whats your fucking point troll.
You argue like a 5 year old
you ARE MENTALLY stunted and you live in your own world

>hurr durr why are guns a right but healthcare isn't?
show me one fucking example of the government using taxpayer money to provide citizens with their "right" to own guns. The government does not give us these rights, they guarantee them. In no way are they providing services at someone else's expense.

>the govt. supports our right to buy one item, so this other item should be free, of course

Huh?

The CMP.

estore.thecmp.org

It's a scaling problem. It works because they're smaller nations. Costs grow superlinear to number of participants. Even useless EU bureaucrats intuitively know not to consolidate member states health systems, why can't US progs figure it out?

No sweetie, it isn't different. I don't want to pay for you stupidity after you jump from a rooftop and hurt yourself just to post some "cool" on youtube.

So does letting guns in the street because of the costs associated with it. If we stopped the sale of guns from gun stores then a lot of money could be saved.

Wait, don't Republicans believe in small government and living whatever lifestyle you want as long as it doesn't hurt you? Funny how you Republicans care about lifestyles once your precious money is involved....

Healthcare isnt built into the constitution

You've gone off the rails, nordbro.
They don't advertise or click bait, it's why I quote them.
You did the same when some one posted a Canadian .gov website yesterday. Calm down my friend. I know got are doing dogs work, but relax a little. Not every site is click bait.

That's how capitalism works. You want to protect your house, you buy a gun. You want to protect your health, you buy insurance.

/thread and every other thread like this we see every day

You're either baiting or stupid. I'm guessing both.

When the government supply me with military grade arms and ammunition, I will agree that it should also provide health care.

This^
Most people don't understand that the USA is FREE and that we are born FREE to do as wee please and that we have laws to protect the rights that we are born with. The Bill of rights doesn't GRANT us anything. Its a Road block against those who would take them from us.
A.K.A communist otherwise known as DEMOCRATS.

"Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"

So what does "life" refer to?

because healthcare isnt a right. Private firearm ownership is expressly guaranteed, not to hunt but to brain blue helmets.

You idiot, taking other people's money is hurting them. You're infringing on other people with your own bad life choices

You don't have a right to someone else's time and work (the doctor in this case).

It's 15.
You can always tell this little kids threads by the anime pictures that start this thread.

Source of that quote?

Yes, Trump secured the frog vote hence why Pepe blessed Trump with the get. Why would she not?

We are born FREE but can't get FREE healthcare (a right)...

OK then, sure thing.

>Pythagorean Oath
Literally retarded
Sage goes into all fields

Said superlinear, meant nonlinear, i.e. Convex.

>So what does "life" refer to?
The government can't kill you for no reason.
Life=/=gibsmedats

You sound like a gibsmedats dindu double nigger

She's a decent human being, very smart, non-white and female.

Not common traits found in Trump supporters.

Again, the government doesn't supply me with guns and ammunition. The right to buy guns and ammunition does not mean the government gives them too me. When the government supply me with a military grade small arm of my choosing and the ammunition to use it, including regular practice sessions, I will agree that the government must supply healthcare.

I know with 100% certainty that this is a canadian trolling for (you)s. But there are people that actually think like this.

Really makes you think.