Please explain how someone is responsible for someone else killing themselves, just because they texted "KYS"...

Please explain how someone is responsible for someone else killing themselves, just because they texted "KYS". When they didn't aid in the suicide or buy anything for the suicide nor was there when the person committed suicide?

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>you know if you roll digits they will have to do it

Please explain why you waste thread space with these stupid topics every fucking day.

Ask Charlie Manson

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You are supposed to report someone saying they are going to kill them selves.
Double so if they are trying to do it.

I'm just surprised they found a female guilty desu.

How is she not just a victim of her bf's emotional abuse and pushed to tell him to khs to free herself from him since it was the only way she had left?

you know it went well beyond a single text of"kys."

Why would you do that. It's their right to kill themselves if they want.

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Thats not what happened. He was in the process of killing himself and she instructed him to get back in the truck and finish the job, when he was getting out and about to change his mind.

Edginess aside, that's pretty heartless desu.

It's part of the disempowerment propaganda. The wimps who rule the world cannot allow even suicide to be an expression of the individual will. They sincerely believe themselves to be that fragile against empowered individuals!

Suicide is a crime, dumbo.

This is going to cause a big problem to free speech once the SCOTUS hears the appeal. And you know they will with such a hot topic.

Because right now, this court case sets the precedent that when I say " go wash your mouth out with buck shot"

I could go to prison for saying that if you actually do it. That's wrong. She should not be in prison for the boys stupidity and metal illness.

How is it heartless? It would be heartless to force someone to live if they want to die, just to keep yourself happy, knowing it'll make the suicidal person sad.

No it's not. And if it was it shouldn't be.

>that's pretty heartless desu.

i think youre the heartless one

you want to send a bunch of people to their house and lock up them in mental hospital

its your job to help someone with problems not send agents to their house to forcibly jail them against their will

Our laws are based on the renaissance idea that all lives have a sacrosanct quality about them, that there's always a potential for someone to do an ultimate good that makes up for all of their past failures. That's why we give everyone due process of law even when it's obvious they're guilty, because even the wickedest of criminals have something sacred that drives their being, even if they don't know it.

They put you in a mental institution if you try you retard. Being a danger to yourself is literally the definition of what it takes to be committed in most places, except some like NY where you need to be a threat to others too.

she was pretty fucked up, too. IIRC, her last text she sent him was "i love you", right? it reminds me of that blue whale game in a way. except this bitch was just outright telling him to kill himself every second of the day.

This thread again?

Sage.

Also, she is going to jail because she knew he was in danger and didn't call for help, not because of her texts.

Whether you think lives matter or not, it's not ok to force someone to keep on living against their will. They want to kill themselves for a reason, most likely because their life is miserable. Keeping them alive and miserable just to give yourself a sense of self satisfaction is fucked up.

you post i want to kill myself on Sup Forums someone will instantly have the helium infograph ready

its the same thing

because wanting to kill yourself is not normal and the person clearly requires counseling

Don't know about all that, but the kid had tried to kill himself multiple times before and people knew of it and he wasn't in a mental institution so I don't think that's true.

>you want to send a bunch of people to their house and lock up them in mental hospital
Yeah honestly I'm not sure they would get help if you call the cops. They'd probably just be locked up, billed an exorbitant amount, and released once they swear not to kill themselves. Possibly lose their jobs in the process. Next time they won't let you stop them.
It's fucked up. They tell you to call the cops but I doubt it helps any.
>its your job to help someone with problems not send agents to their house to forcibly jail them against their will
I guess you're right.

and what are you going to do hold them down in a prison their whole life with no bed sheets

if someone wants to kill themselves theyre allowed to

Doesn't matter if it's normal or not. It's not normal to destroy your tv, but it's yours and you own it so it's your right to do it. Same with your life.

No, we have due process because anything else is tyranny. If it was about human lives and shit good sumiaritan laws would be mandatory. You're trying to put an emotional narrative into law.

This chick is a monster, and I hope she suffers for the rest of her life under the guilt of herself and others, but I cannot see how her actions are illegal

it was dumb and this girl will eventually make some money, though her lawyers will make much more

>you post i want to kill myself on Sup Forums someone will instantly have the helium infograph ready
it needs to be updated since most companies add a bitter taste to the helium to prevent exactly that, unfortunately. probably the comfiest way to go.

this is some slippy slopey shit.

She was not guilty of anything. Just like the guy that sent a guy a flashing gif that induced a seizure wasn't guilty of doing anything.

...Is this going to be appealed? I mean I think it deserves to be heard in the supreme court

Not really, because people don't really expect to people to kill themselves because they said so.

The real reason is something deeper and long term, that people should had noticed much before.

Saying can only work as a final trigger, but so could have a series of other small circumstances, there is no way to predict this.

She verbally took advantage of someone with a history of depression. It wasn't just "kys", it was "Get back in the truck" when the kid was having second thoughts about killing himself. Read her actual goddamn text log with him. It gives me the fucking chills.

EVERY
FUCKING
DAY

shes a alien demon just look at her lol

is there any question this isnt another species

As someone who thinks that suiced is a great a alternative to crippling or heavy pain afflictions or even maybe old age (for me, not only other people) i don't think it's heartless

It's amazing how the slavers brainwashing stuck so deep

oi fucker she coerced him to suicide

he had changed his mind and she said to him to get back in

She took advantage of him by telling him exactly the same thing he had been telling her for months?

>wanting to kill yourself is not normal

Coercion means to force or threaten someone to do something, she did not coerce him. She said kys and he chose to do it because he wanted to.

he was in his right mind to make a decision
he had changed his mind, but she influenced him too heavily

its the same as having sex with a 6 year old

* wasn't

She's not responsible. It was a terrible fucking decision and I hope it gets overturned. As bad of a person as she is, that's still free speech.

>Reading the texts
This story is fucked up. She actually pushed him a lot even tho he was hesitant.

How was he not in his right mind? And if he wasn't in his right mind then how could he make the decision to change his mind.

that he changed his mind so easily proves he wasn't is his right mind

a definite solution requires a definitive mindset

when i have suicidal thoughts i always research the best way to kill myself without pain and the most chance to do it without fail

Did you actually read the texts? She was constantly telling him to kill himself, like to do it as soon as possible, that if he really loved her he'd do it, that it was the only way he would be released from pain, etc....he would express doubts and she'd literally demean him for not having killed himself already. She would text him back after 5 minutes of no response asking if he'd done it already. She's a fucked up cunt and deserves to be in prison for the rest of her life.

I don't know what you're trying to say. But there is no reason for him not to have been in the right state of mind.

That's what he himself kept saying, so after he convinced her of it, she started repeating it back to him. Anyway, it was all his decision, regardless of some texts she sent that were just repeats of what he himself said.

can't wait to see this bitch get raped in prison. those texts man, no one has sympathy for her.

reasons don't need to be logic
it could be a pletora of variables that made he in that state of mind, be he simple was fucked in the mind that day.

in the end it simple comes to, if she hadn't said to him to get back in the truck he would have lived at least one more day.

she is responsible to him killing himself at that moment of time.

>but I cannot see how her actions are illegal

Doesn't matter, they are.

He had been telling her he wanted to kill himself for months or years and had tried multiple times before. So if he was fucked in the mind that day because he chose to do it, then he must be fucked in the mind 24/7.

I'll correct myself, she is partially responsible

Nope.

More importantly, will she get raped in prison?

she should've called someone to help

or simply took distance and let him do it by himself

she is probably is a sadist degenerate who was waiting for hill to kill himself and got tired of waiting

Why do Dems have such problems with accountability?

No she shouldn't have it's his right to kill himself if he wants. If she was a sadist, she wouldn't have told him to get help originally. She told him to kill himself because he kept saying it's the only way for him to be happy.

I thought she was OK in Valerian.

If you think she controlled the guy's actions, then it's you who has a problem with accountability.

when she noticed she wouldn't be fucked after showing her true intentions she got exited as fuck about it.

if she wasn't able to do the task she should have took her distance instead of helping (not a issue) and motivating him (an issue).

>when she noticed she wouldn't be fucked after showing her true intentions

What are you saying? You're saying her true intentions all the time was to get him to kill himself? Even during all the months she was specifically telling him not to and to get help? That makes no sense.

yes, it makes total sense
she changed to acceptance and eagerness fairly easy

trying to help can be just a facade, so it doesn't get out that a person is a psychopath

This. She was practically begging him to do it.

How about not telling people to kill themselves?
How about not alerting other people?
Or seeking help for this person?

It's really not that hard to not say "kill yourself" to your suicidal boyfriend.

She changed after months or years of him constantly saying he wanted to die. How is that easy. You think this 16 year old girl, came up with a plan months or years in advance, to get this guy to kill himself, and part of her plan was constantly telling him not to, and then telling him to? This is what you honestly believe?

Its called suicide baiting and its very much a crime
Rot in prison, roastie

I'm tired of this boring topic.

>posting on Sup Forums
>no understanding of basic human emotions

O I AM LAFFIN

You can tell someone to kill themselves if you want to. Kill yourself. And she only told him because he said that was the only way he'd be happy.
She didn't alert other people.
He already had "help", in the form of counselors, and it didn't make him want to kill himself any less. And it's not her responsibility to get him help.

the thing she said about heaven, is one of the things that makes me think she is psychopath

religious people believe there is a piece of god inside all people, so people are literally holding a piece of god hostage, if you kill your self you are trying to harm a piece of god, so there is no way that someone who kill themselves os going to heaven (i know its retarded, but religious people are mostly this stupid)

not a plan, she just had morbid curiosity about someone suicidal, with time get got annoyed that the guy was just talk and no action

it's about an abuse of influence

think about when you are capable of getting a retard or a senile old person to do what you want, or somebody who is mentally ill

a duty to at least not manipulate that person arises

I do however think they should have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the dude wouldn't have killed himself without her input, which I don't think is totally conclusive

I respect the digits

I'm just saying if you don't tell suicidal people to kill themselves this problem wouldn't happen.

off topic but anyone else for fun cruise twitch channels to find feminists/cucks and troll them in chat?

You said her trying to help was just a façade and you said yes to me asking if you think her intention all the time was to get him to kill himself. Now you're saying that wasn't her original intention. You're making no sense.

post them I'm lazy but curious

i thought so too but apparently she had been pushing him to do it for months.

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He wasn't a retard and he always wanted to kill himself and had tried before multiple times. Getting a guy who tried to kill himself multiple times and constantly talked about suicide, to try one more time like he inevitably would, doesn't sound like much influence.

>find mentally retarded person
>talk them into hurting themselves because they're retarded
>I did nothing wrong

huh?

Good thing that didn't happen.

"Kill yourself" is a call to action

i never said she wanted to get him to kill himself
she wanted see him kill himself, when he didn't she motivated him

Nothing wrong with telling suicidal people to kill themselves. It's still their decision. And all the people in the chat who tell someone to kill themselves while they're live streaming their suicide, deserve no punishment for the suicidal guys decision.

Stop trying to defend this bitch you piece of shit

Yes you did.

>You're saying her true intentions all the time was to get him to kill himself?
>yes

She did nothing wrong, and shouldn't be potentially about to go to jail in a few days.

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The message is to perpetuate to men the idea that somehow there is nothing wrong with being a spineless, sniveling pussy.

I'm explaining why what she is charged of would be considered legitimate, not whether or not she is guilty of that, and I included that caveat at the end

>"but for her encouragement, he wouldn't have killed himself"
If this is true, she's guilty, if it is not, she is not guilty

people have been killing themselves for thousands of years it's perfectly normal

Of course randoms in chatrooms typing "kys" would not receive punishment because that's a completely different situation. Some things need to be looked at as an individual case with complex factors and can't be boiled down to all cases of people telling each other to kill themselves being the same. She clearly used her position of power to manipulate a vulnerable person into harming themselves.

Don't see why she'd be guilty either way. It''s his decision, and it only affects his life, the law shouldn't be looking into someone's decision to end their own life like it's a bad thing. But no way to know if he'd have done it or not.

You're the piece of shit degrading our rights to free speech. Traitors to first.

A mentally ill child emotionally abused by a mentally ill ADULT.. She's a victim and needs therapy.