>creates beautiful people
>tells ugly people not to be jealous
>creates murderers and theives
>tells victims not be angry and to forgive
>creates titties, dicks, and asses
>tells us not to lust
>claims the world is his perfect beautiful creation
>natural disasters kill people all the time
Is this mother fucker just toying with us or what? I'm starting to get really pissed off at this dude
You know OP, I've had certain experiences with God and the true religion would be some kind of gnosticism that nobody wrote about where jesus was a deceiver too.
Basically: The world is being ruled by a dark power and its minions (the demiurge) whom is not only the god of the bible but also the god of the other religions. He's a dick.
There's a god above him whom will save you if you reach gnosis.
this.
All abrahamic religions are worshiping the same god.
It's Anunaki god. (anu) with major influence of saturn (maybe a base there, who knows)
what you're not realizing is that our context is completely flexible
imagine that all of those problems went away, we would still be the same type of creatures, except now we would be just as upset about different, less horrible circumstances, like our hair getting messed up or something
the skills you master in this whirlwind of pain and fear will apply to any context, including one far better or far worse, and if we really are immortal, things will need to change...a lot
>claims that the world is perfect
Only before the fall of man.
Kindly enough though, he has given us many tools to deal with the imperfections of this world. Because he loves us and wants us to prosper.
It (GOD) isnt even human, it's draconian.
That depiction is just an "hologram" they can create to seem like gods or angels, in the past. Nowadays if it appeared it would be debunked as a fake "body" and scientists wouldn't believe it was an miracle appearance
Do you think each humans death is randomly by chance or does God pick and choose who he wants to kill at that moment? Also for in which way people die. Is that random or not? Fuck this gay shit.
Made man in his image
>mankind is really really fucked up
Am I on /X/ again?
user, the true (legitimately interested in humans) God is the draconian one.
/x/ is actually a bag of flaccid pensises where you cannot discuss the actual nature of God because they will want it having been discussed previously on a book and will dismiss personal experiences.
Basically /x/ is a book club.
>and choose who he wants to kill at that moment? Also for in which way people die. Is that random or not? Fuck this gay shit.
he is not the source of universe, neither are the angels or demons.
Angels and demons are probably aliens and "god" is their leader.
It's all about this "good and evil" dimension. They feed on it, particularly on fear, because fear is stronger than love. (it has more energy and it can be pushed to extreme)
God is interested in seeing you to deal with it. Life is just a training program.
>perfect beautiful creation
Go learn some math and then go learn some physics.
God doesn't do anything of those things, God does not give a fuck about the hairless apes killing one another on some backwater planet called Earth. God only cares about the conscious souls within those hairless apes, souls that must experience mortality over and over until they finally learn to be one with The Highest(God), until the finally reach enlightenment.
What the fuck, where are you getting this shit from?
Blaming God for the errors of men
Complains about stormy weather
Are u some kind of little bitch?
What always creeped me out is the thought of what happens immediately after you die. God claims there's no pain, suffering, sadness etc in heaven but won't you realize youre dead and left your loved ones? How could you not be sad when you're dead? What happens to all your feelings?
>They feed on it, particularly on fear, because fear is stronger than love.
Fear is stronger than all emotions
I don't remember eating the fruit.
There are people that will argue about free will and if it truly exists or not, so there's no point on getting into whether man brings destruction on himself or if it's all part of God's plan. We could argue for days.
Just another proof the whole universe is kek and we should worship the froggod
>creates free will
>tells us to grow up
>autistic man children whine and complain because god dint give them heaven for free
Earn it you piece of shit. You can't dispose yourself of the need of love from your creator by ignoring him. The only way you won't need God's love anymore is by earning it.
You realise there is no death. But an eternal afterlife with god and all you ever known and those still alive will be with you soon enough.
Demiurge worshippers are the worst kind of retard, they are worshipping a dark power who isn't the legitimate god and they will never notice.
I also don't get how CHAD gets all the pussy by being over prideful and not waiting till marriage to have sex and committing sodomy etc. He's living the life. Who wouldn't want hot babes on their dick all the time, yet they are achieving all that fun by doing anti-god behaviors. Shouldn't anti God behaviors result in NOT getting hot pussy? Just one of the many contradictions I think about on a daily basis
Was there suffering in the garden of edan? Is there suffering in heaven?
>telling other people what they worship
Gee, aren't you just so fucking enlightened.
Just so were clear here: Are you claiming the demiurge created free will, or are you an insufferably retarded pseudo intellectual with his head so far up his own ass he can almost reach his butthole for a second circuit?
Simply notice how all the elites are doing child sacrifice and are behind stories of child rape and you'll understand that they are being protected by a dark power that enjoys such things, possibly while preaching the opposite.
>why didn't god make my life easy?
>why is being good the more difficult path?
Because you are supposed to GROW UP.
So the pieces of shit who kill people before killing themselves "earned it"? When a murderer dies it's his time to enter eternal bliss?
>>creates beautiful people
>>tells ugly people not to be jealous
>>creates murderers and theives
>>tells victims not be angry and to forgive
>>creates titties, dicks, and asses
>>tells us not to lust
>>claims the world is his perfect beautiful creation
>>natural disasters kill people all the time
>Is this mother fucker just toying with us or what? I'm starting to get really pissed off at this dude
You're list is fallacious. It goes like this, oh ye who fails to take responsibility for the flaws of yourself and your species:
>God creates Free Will
>Humans continually ignore Him and choose evil
>Humans blame God
Typical dumbfucks you all are.
Even natural disasters would not hurt people if we chose to use our intellectual and economic capacity and resources for defensive purposes rather than ever-more-efficient ways to kill each other.
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>Was there suffering in the garden of edan? Is there suffering in heaven?
NO AND NO.
t.Angel in disguise.
should point to
Why is being bad so rewarding then? Surely you agree that being a porn star or being filthy rich is more satisfying than not
>Typical dumbfucks
Explain why constantly choosing evil nets you an emporium of riches and prosperity.
Why do you think dying is a free pass to heaven, user?
Rhetorical question. if you thought that you would be absolutely retarded to not kill yourself this very moment.
But... you know that isn't true, dont you?
Exactly what I'm trying to say
If getting your dick sucked (sodomy) was so evil then why don't we get really sick or something after each time man gets his dick sucked? If there was demonstrable evidence of punishment after every time you get your dick sucked then maybe we would stop wanting to get our dicks sucked by babes with DSL's. Or is this part of God's awesome test?
Christians are merely larpers, don't expect better from them.
Are you saying Chester Bennington got sent to hell? Serious question what do you think is happening to him right now
We cannot know God, maybe he exists maybe he doesn't. Read Hume
You aren't really reading these are you?
If being good gave the best results, would there be any temptation for evil? You would have to be a total idiot to ever do a single uncouth thing.
You wouldn't have free will. Free will is what you are, why you were made, and the single reason god would even consider loving something wretched as you.
Because you can choose to do right, even when it is hard, even if it ruins you, even if it kills you.
If life were all fairy tales and happy endings where the evil suffered and the good triumphed, there would be nothing for us to learn and nothing to interest god.
Your life is so ridiculously comfortable and lovely that you are able to make mountains out of the molehills you never would have seen if not for the unprecedented prosperity which preceded your arrival here.
God made heaven, and each of us is responsible for making our own little hell, should we find heaven lacking, wanting.
Do you find heaven wanting?
I don't know who that is, but people are not allowed in hell while dead. That privilege is for the living who choose it.
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Humans learn by observing, not by denying reality.
It's like you don't even realize the afterlife is where all the real good and bad is. The current world is a test of character
Life is a test op, pic related is the best answer for the question you are stuck on.
So let's cut to the chase. Will porn stars be punished more than non porn stars? Same thing for murderers, theives etc. If life is one big stress test like you say, surely there will be ultimate justice at the end for all these dudes who get their dicks sucked all the time by porn stars. Also explain how a nice loving church family who died in a car accident. What was that? Did God not want them on Earth anymore? Explain it
>my rules are better than god's rules
Enjoy your waking hell, kiddo. You earned it.
If you want to stop being an angsty bitch for 20 minutes, we can talk about free will before I go to bed and leave you to your own devices.
You clearly have never considered the implications of free will. You think that life is some videogame where being the good guy gets you sweet loots and a princess.
God isn't trying to sell a million units by appealing to your monkey brain. He is trying, desperately, to give you a soul.
I am spiritually more mature than you, been there done that. What you are doing, justify the lies of the bible, I did in thepast, sadly they were lies and luckily there's life beyond that.
God does not punish, people punish. Punishment is retributive.
Last time ill type it so open your fucking eyes: you are here to learn.
Does the world make no fucking sense? check your premises, nigger; because you got some fucking wrong.
There is no divine intervention. The mere concrete knowledge of god's existence nullifies the free will experiment.
Again: If being evil always had bad results, and being good always had positive, do you really have free will?
So go ahead, defend your god with lies so we can learn about his truth with lies.
That is not completely accurate. In the two most significant Gnostic texts, it is Jesus himself who tells the disciples the alternative creation story where the devil created humanity and then fooled us into thinking he was god. Search On the Origin of the World and the Secret Book of John.
It would mean that Jesus Christ was still the Son of God but his true message was corrupted by those who were entrusted with it.
How is there bad in the afterlife? No where in the Bible does it say that.
>created 2 humans
>told them to not eat some shitty fruit
>humans did
our fault, not God
>bible?
The fuck did you say to me you little bitch? Noone said shit about the bible until you brought it up.
Again: check your fucking premises.
Does life make no sense? THAT MEANS YOU THINK SOMETHING THAT IS INCORRECT.
I dont even know what this means.
Tell me, what does free will mean to you?
Also, if you don't think you have it, you may as well kill yourself. It's logical and you can't not do it anyways.
>That is not completely accurate.
Pretty accurate, I believe what I believe based off my experience, not based of the delusions of a primitive man writing things down.
People get very retarded with the technicalities of what has been written, as a man who has read and tried and tested lots of occult literature, you can put your books inside your butt because that would be like returning to the source.
In short: My personal experience states jesus is a deceiver and a dark character, and I'm gonna trust it above somebodys pretty cool tale.
This. Reaching enlightenment is NOT easy, nor should it be! Every single thought we have is a conversation with God.
Don't try to teach me, you're just stupid and arrogant and hot headed and so wrong it hurts.
>be man
>write story
>autists 6k years later unironically use it to btfo god
Cmon dude, you larping right?
Dont fuck this fallen angel tree. Woman goes and fucks it anyways. Aaand He doesn't make murder
Humans tend to appreciate the truth much less than god.
But it's the big guy's rules. And your choice.
If he created the humans imperfect in a way that they would succumbs to temptation and sin then it was him doing it by your own logic, retard.
I can't believe sometimes the stupidity of people.
Bruh, if he created humanity, that's a pretty solid candidate for "god" even if he has a god of his own.
>chastising stupidity while living in ignorance
what does free will mean to you?
At what point is vengeance warranted if people are treating you badly? If never, then what is preventing me from treating people like shit? I don't see the repercussions of doing shady shit. If it's all up to God when we are all dead, what is his form of punishment? But then, I thought he forgives us?
are you asking man or are you asking god?
If you are asking man, you should probably ask yourself (and prepare for the consequences)
If you are asking god, you are not asking properly.
>yfw Satan was the good guy all along
I've spent 10 years sistematically studying analyzing breaking apart and testing religions, tell me I speak from ignorance.
False fear can be overcome. Don't be a pussy bitch and have love it takes more strength to love the unknown then to stay in a state of fear. Also fear can only last a limited time
I have asked man who and why killed my father. No answers. I have asked God. No response. I wait for his justice to come. If it ever will. I am left in the dark for now.
Dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed
>yfw you are an NPC in a realm created by god to enlighten satan, his most beautiful creation, in the hopes of having a true companion.
>yfw that didn't go as planned.
But why wouldn't you want to be on the side of the most powerful God?
You speak from ignorance.
Guess how I know?
You seek the divine wrought from the hands of men, when it was men wrought from the hand of the divine.
You have it all backwards, user.
Darkness can happen here on earth but will get cucked in the afterlife forever
>Creates beautiful people
That people may appreciate beauty not to abuse beauty for personal gain.
>Creates murderers and thieves
God gave people freedom to use strength, freedom of thought to be cunning. Humans chose to use that freedom to murder and to steal.
>Creates sexual anatomy
For the purpose of sexual reproduction to be enjoyed not abused by monogamous couples. Instead humans chose to abuse it by carrying out rape, orgies and yielding themselves to degenerate pleasure.
>Natural disasters kill people all the time
As Scripture says All Creation groans at the fallen World. Whilst natural disasters kill people how many humans will willingly give to assuage the suffering of the survivors? Years later and Haiti is still a shithole. Africa is still wracked by war and famine. What is humanity doing about self inflicted pain?
You may wish to blame God but humanity has only itself to blame for the misery it has inflicted on itself.
>Creates free will
>Gives you the choice to be good or bad
>Tells you which choices he prefers you make
>Gives you the opportunity to prove yourself
Hmm it's almost like how we plant crops and throw out the tainted and rotted fruit, and we want the good fruit that grows from the crops.
Really makes you think......
Lol what about STDs? Seems like you can't just fuck anything...
God does not intervene. You are free will, he can not save you while you walk the earth.
You are also changing the question. Ask god when is vengeance acceptable, just as you asked me.
Chances are, you don't even need to ask. You know the answer on some small level already.
It doesn't matter if he exists or not, if he did he clearly doesn't give a shit about any of us, the end.
>You speak from ignorance
The ignorance of having a set of experiences both with God and darkness, and with that bases scientifically examining every religion that passed by my hands.
hypothetical scenario: God prime create the universe and some angels and treats them like shit. torture, whatever.
one angel makes man in secret, tries his best, but despite not being outright evil and even trying to help, everything goes comically wrong and the world is shit.
Which would you worship as YOUR god?
>creates everything
>tells his sentient creations to be mindful of their desires and urges, to not outright shut them out but also not to indulge heavily in them, to always moderate and find inner and outer balance, to not be fucking stupid like the confederate niggerfaggot OP
>Shouldn't anti God behaviors result in NOT getting hot pussy?
All wrong is a perversion of right. That's all it is.
Death didn't occur until the fall in Eden. Humanity continues to do wrong, so the world continues to be fallen.
Hells real trust me lol, better believe or you'll have flesh eating beasts come for you real shit yo
>scientifically examining religion
You are just fucking adorable.
Also, pretty laughably ignorant. The fool claims wisdom, while the wise man refuses to be thought of anything but a fool.
okay? Clearly I know hell is real: I already said it was reserved for the living who chose it.
So what's the punishment for murderers or porn stars? If we all sin and all sins are created equally then are we all fucked when judgment day comes? Doesn't it bother you that little Johnny who was a good kid that got hit and killed by a truck is in the same line for punishment as a serial killer?
Tell that to Satan when your dead, top Kek
Rich people aren't always happy y'know... some commit suicide despite having so much money.
Also getting blacked by tyrone isn't satisfaction, it's desperation
Being a pornstar mean's that people will see you less than human.
>all sins are created equally
That's not true though.
>Venial/Mortal
>Vincible/Invincible ignorance
>Circumstances and culpability
Something tells me you have more hate towards me than ISIS mother fuckers who are beheading people
That shit already happens in this life, so is this hell already?
>Original sin is not a tyrannical and ridiculous thing
Third time again: God does not punish; that is the business of man.
God's judgment be what it may, he is the authority on the subject.
>johnny // serial killer
Are you paying attention to yourself? every post you make, you intend to impose your will and judgement on god; it doesn't work in that direction.
If god chooses to judge them the same, who are you to know better? But forget that, who are you to assume he will judge them the same?
You hate god because you have created a god that is detestable, but I know your secret: you don't believe in this false god at all.
Spoiler alert: dudes wrote that book, not god.
Bible says god says "vengeance is mine" explain that please
If it's all up to man then couldn't a murderer live the rest of his life a good person and "save" himself then when he dies he will just walk straight into heaven no problem at all?
Na it gets worse, earth is a proving ground.