I'm genuinely curious desu. I figure this is going to go lone of few ways:
> a) Sup Forums amazes me once again and is capable of seeing through the bullshit of relgion.
> b) like the fucking idiots you are, you are predominately religious. you get irrational about your stupid views being called out and you derail the conversation by calling me a neckbeard.
>c) nobody replies to this thread and i am forever unsatisfied
None of these would surprise me
Does "desu" automatically correct to "desu?" if so then lmao fuck yall
reply to this shit you fucking faggots
reply to this pls. someone pls
i hate you all.
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wow option C because fuck yall and kys
this thread is fucking dumb. forgive me for even coming up with this shit
sigh
made me download a picture and everything
I think you're new and underage
Cucktheists everyone,a fizical form of autism,cant wait to burn you faggots on a pyre.
i believe in jesus as my saviour and flat earth
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No. It's a comfort blanket for some. I don't mind Christians though. They are almost all really good people who appreciate and understand the good that white people do.
better men than you have been sincere Christians. investigate how this is possible before coming here with 2007 era fedora bullshit.
protip: most of the Christians here used to be atheists or agnostics
Christianity isn't what you think it is.
user, being religious is the most reasonable things one can be. God is logos, quasi reason an order to the universe one can know by the mere use of reason. For the world within us, where the universal laws dont apply he send and gave us his son, the lamb which washed us free from sin to makes us able to rejoice with god again.
You ID is very ironic in some way. It is exactly what is wrong with this world in first place with people like you. It is always me, me, me first. People who blew up their ego and worship it as if it would be god.
Read into Origin of Consciousness by Julian Yanes to understand what I mean.
Yes.
i have mixed feelings on christianity. i like the fellowship and lack of degeneracy at church, but i live in the south and all the churches preach dispensationalist scofield based garbage. most of them really think that we are second class citizens to jews who don't even believe in jesus. i really wish there would be a reformation or something to save protestantism
Yes i believe in the New Testament and Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. He called out the jews and died for our sins.
I don't like that brand of toiletpaper....so scratchy.
Fuck thought that was a Koran, sry Jesus.
Jesus was real and that's a fact, but his teachings, are good, and as like all religions, form a moral backbone in which you can build a society around. Not a single society from tribe to empire went its entire life without forming some sort of religious belief. It is necessary for the evolution of culture and man. anyone who thinks otherwise is ignorant and that is a simple fact. I can understand disagreements with the church, but religion itself is just a tool to explain the universe around you, same as science.
Have you read any roman documentation about Jesus? say Tacitus for one? Give reason to why christians are "Stupid"?
Also OP you come off as an intensely unlikable person, you should learn some humility
>I'm genuinely curious desu.
I'm Christian. Specifically Catholic. I can answer whatever questions you have, but not for very long. It's late here.
how do u feel about the pope. also isn't it awkward doing confession?
Fuck off newfag
>most of the Christians here used to be atheists
Hardly. Most Christians here were raised that way, it's very difficult to make someone believe in fairy tales unless you hook them while they're young, before they can think critically and intrinsically trust adults. It takes major brainwashing, low/feeble IQ, or underlying mental illness, to become Christian as an adult.
This. Saged.
I gave my views here
archive.4plebs.org
I will stress the mixed message line now too. It just comes off as strange sometimes.
But at the same time:
nytimes.com
>“The Osorno community is suffering because it’s dumb,” Pope Francis told a group of tourists on St. Peter’s Square in Vatican City, because it “has let its head be filled with what politicians say, judging a bishop without any proof.”
>“Don’t be led by the nose by the leftists who orchestrated all of this,” the pope said.
Archived that
>nytimes com/2015/10/08/world/americas/calling-protesters-in-chile-dumb-pope-francis-sets-off-uproar.html
archive.is
m8, Christianity isn't irrational just because you're stupid. When something doesn't make sense to you, you should understand there is more than one possible cause:
> a) it's stupid
> b) you're stupid
> c) you're lying to yourself because you're too much of a butthurt little faggot to admit the truth
Here, I update this when I feel like it:
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Oh, and confession is at first very difficult but over time you realize what holds you back is childish fear and guilt. Childish fear need be done away with and guilt is motivation for improvement.
It takes longer to get used to it if the priest knows you and you know him. However it is true that they grow accustom to hearing of scandal.
There were many conversions in Sup Forums between 2013-2015.
Right, I apologize. Thank you.
As a christian how do you accept the leader of your "church" saying "And if at times our efforts and works seem to fail and produce no fruit, we need to remember that we are followers of Jesus . . . and his life, humanly speaking, ended in failure, in the failure of the cross." - For any christian who has understood the salvation given to us by Yahusha (jesus as you would refer to him) the cross was planned and necessary in the plan of the Father. In what context would this be match what Yahusha said?
And then explain this to me as he states “having a personal relationship with Jesus is dangerous and very harmful“ - Does this follow the words of your saviour? if not then you follow the pope not Yahusha.
Leave the church and its Babylonian traditions and find him before his return.
>begin arguments for God
>don't define what you're talking about in any ontological sense
I can see you haven't done this much, have you?
how in depth do you have to go in confession? for instance do u just say u jacked off to some porn last saturday or do u have to say that u jacked off to a dude shitting on another dude's chest or whatever
Does the priest forgive you after?
everybody is larping. you really think they'd be martyrs now? they don't even believe in the afterlife.
newfag
In many regards yes, what is some of these dumb shit 'stupid views' you're applying to it? Perhaps your irrational question or mindest might get addressed then.
No, atheists and pagans who get their feelings hurt by being called LARPers try to use the same tactics against Christians for revenge. Unlike pagancucks, there is actually data that would suggest (based on the nationalities that post here frequently) most people on here are from countries with Christian majorities.
I don't see reason to focus nor care much about the pope and what he says in my daily life. I respect him as an individual and know as pope he is estimable but he is still a fallible man. And of course if this comment contradicts what you know about "papal infallibility" I can assist you through this.
I do not join the church for its current leadership. Further, the validity of the church has nothing to do with its current leadership. The grace provided by the sacraments, readings, and work do not come from the moral character of men but from God. The church's offices have the authority to administer and work here which is how the church comes about and maintains authority, however.
As for your initial Francis quote, the context it would match in is "humanly speaking", which is why Francis said it. The point is to not leave the divine aspect out.
As for your second quote, the line is without its context. Including the context, he said it is dangerous to believe that you could have "a personal, direct, immediate relationship with Jesus Christ without communion with and the mediation of the church", which is true.
The detail is not important. The simplest manner is to label what kind of sin it is in reference to the 7 deadly sins but there's no harm in greater detail.
Well yes, in the person of Jesus of course.
In regards to depth, I want to send this picture your way.
That all? If so, I'll be heading to bed.
How the fuck do people continue to worship a dead kike on a stick?
This is good. Well done.
If you're a Christian than you must believe that Africans are your brothers and you must have open borders. There's not rationalizing your way out of this.
> kike on a stick
Makes literally no sense
"The word kike was born on Ellis Island when there were Jewish migrants who were also illiterate (or could not use Latin alphabet letters). When asked to sign the entry-forms with the customary "X", the Jewish immigrants would refuse, because they associated an X with the cross of Christianity. Instead, they drew a circle as the signature on the entry-forms. The Yiddish word for "circle" is kikel, and for "little circle", kikeleh. Before long the immigration inspectors were calling anyone who signed with an O in place of an X a kikel or kikeleh or kikee or, finally and succinctly, kike''.
So the term kike only came about due to Jew's hatred of Christianity and Christ. So to call Christ a kike is absurd, however it would make perfect sense to call a LARPagan a kike, since like Jews they have an irrational hatred of Jesus.
> If you're a Christian than you must believe that Africans are your brothers
I believe that a Christian of any race is indeed my brother
> you must have open borders
Acts 17:26
> And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation
Different peoples have their own lands and nations which they belong in. Just because someone is a fellow Christian or a fellow sinner does not mean they absolutely must live in my country. Better to help fix a shitty country rather than thinking that said country's problems can't be fixed and the best solution is to let all of them immigrate to rich Western countries.
Firstly it has very little to do with infallibility the topic isn't a matter of interpretation the core belief of followers of Yahusha have which separates our beliefs from others is the belief that the messiah lived a sinless life and died on the cross to atone for our own sins so that he may take our punishment. Now to state that the it was a failure in "human terms" just shows the lack of understanding in what the word Himself said. If the intention is to carry out the work of 'God' then why is the roman catholic church following traditions of men and not that of the God? Why do you celebrate easter and not passover/unleavened bread/feast of first fruits? i can find passover in scripture but i am yet to find easter in the bible so why celebrate something not in the bible yet do not celebrate something that is in the bible?. Why do you have Sunday as the sabbath when scripture says its on a Saturday? or is there not enough symbolism of sun worship already in the church.
Secondly, wonderful then please clarify exactly what dangers you are referring to? Which parts of the word of God require mediation? Where is any of what you claim in either the Kingdom/Gospel books? or the letters of Paul? you see my issue? if we truly need mediation to hear the words of Jesus where in scripture can i find this claim? The scriptures are not the constitution you cannot add amendments. So please explain why mediation is needed as this is something i have been unable to figure out.
Very good vid on the end times and bible prophecies
Skip to 27.00min for the start of the interpretations...before that its about false prophets and such
Because he didn't remain dead, he overcame what no one else has been able to do. If you actually research the circumstances around his death & resurrection which is documented by roman and jewish historians you may want to thank the 'kike who died on a stick' for dying in the first place for us & even dying for someone who would call him a kike
No, I don't. I can understand why other people do though. It must be very comforting to just pretend that everything is part of a greater plan and no matter how shit your life is right now, there's a good reason for it which you just don't understand.
Once you stop believing there's no going back though.
Whether something bring comfort or discomfort it doesn't make a claim any less plausible or implausible. If you wish to show the lack of validity in the christian belief please debunk the resurrection of christ and no christian will be able to argue with you until then keep investigating and find truth wherever you can.
Not sure what you are trying to say. I do not care if other people believe in religion or not, I just stated that personally I don't but I can see why others do.
I have no interest in "proving them wrong" or anything like that. They do not bother me.
Correction, Christians. Not religious people in general.
Yes i believe in Christ.
This world was designed buddy. Nature does not produce a single bit of code on its own.
My IQ is higher than yours.
The Bible is literally true, and the universe is approximately 6000 years old.
How does it feel being brainwashed by fake Jews who publish fake news?
>(((evolution)))
If you believe in that you're a fucking moron.
Tell me again how rocks evolved into humans, dimwit.
Where did God Almighty touched you?
>The Bible is literally true
This is demonstrably false in many respects, though the Bible certainly contains many individual truths. Why for example did Jesus say "consider the ravens: They do not sow or reap, they have no storeroom or barn; yet God feeds them" when ravens both store food and routinely die from starvation, for example?
Oh, Mr.Leaf, please enlighten us more about agricultural system and infrastructure built by ravens and birds.
Apologies if i misunderstood, i was just responding to the idea of comfort being a big factor for those who believe i feel doesn't correctly represents the amount of rational evidence out there to hold such a belief.
You are correct we are all entitled to believe whatever we wish to! I just hope everyone has at least a reasonable and rational basis for it whatever it is.
>my pointless sarcasm somehow invalidates your intelligent comment
Yes, JESUS is the Light.
Yesterday I went go volunteer at the local refugee center. Next week my church is getting some "illegal immigrants"(none of Gods children are illegal) of our own and I've volunteered to let some of them stay at my home.
>This is demonstrably false in many respects
Soz yer mum.
If God is going to send a plague of locusts He may just starve the birds who eats them first.
Try harder, Leif
>christianity
>literally worshipping a dead jew
If you're an American, it's also the reason why you probably have a jew-dick even though you're not jewish. It got started in the 19th century by traveling preachers who went around telling people that they had to get their male offspring circumcised or else they'd fap all day long and go to hell, and it still happens today because people are so retarded they don't want to admit that their parents had them sexually mutilated at birth.
(sage because OP is a faggot)
>If God is going to send a plague of locusts He may just starve the birds who eats them first.
What? Jesus made no mention of locusts in that passage. He said that God provides for ravens, but we can see that a certain percentage of ravens die by starvation every year
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>Any of you actually believe in this Christian bullshit?
Why is it bs? Does anyone have any better explanations of this universe or life itself? I know it sounds childlish fairytales to the unbelievers but makes a ton of sense when I look at the world around us.
I do believe and even if it wasn't real I'd still want to believe. The message of gospel is one of joy, what's there not to like?
>believes the Jew lie that Jesus was a jew
The real religion red pill is pretending to believe because the normie masses need it. The outspoken atheists are guys with 105 IQ. Smarter than the plebs, but still brainlets in the grand scheme of things.
I don't believe, but I go to Church every Sunday, and am a successful and we'll regarded member of my community. It's just one of the things we need to do, like telling someone their stupid haircut looks nice.
This kind man gave three simple protips for anyone sincerely interested in learning and you honestly think a valid response is "lol no u r idiot, le sky wizard lololol".
You can't keep making these posts and then complain about the fedora memes, this is what they refer to. You and OP are the memes incarnate, you should be grateful anyone answers you at all.
Test him & See. Can you handle the red pill? I doubt it. Yashua is the truth the way & the life. He has been tested many times & not found lacking. His burden is light & his reward is with him. Have you know wisdom? It cannot be bought or sold.
When the Man comes around, your gonna have to pick a side. There is no escaping it.
amen
God is an axiom, a fundamental premise and as such there's no point in debating its existance.
Organized religion on the other hand is an effective mechanism for social control. So basically you need to play along and pretend to see the bridge between the ontological premises and the normative conclusions apparently derived from them.
>Have you know wisdom?
Have you know English?
>nobody replies to my thread
>reeeeee
>self-bump 9 times
>once someone does reply, stop replying yourself
Into the report queue it goes.