I support all the amendments that Americans enjoy, but some are long overdue for a serious overhaul. I would like to specifically discuss how to effectively change the 2nd Amendment.
The 2nd amendment should be changed to specifically say which arms Americans have a right to bear. There are no reasons for ordinary citizens to own assault weapons or weapons with a clip size larger than 10 bullets. 10 bullets should be more than enough for hunting or self defense purposes. You do not need a gun for anything else.
I would like to see the second amendment specify a minimum age for gun ownership. Something in the range of 25-30. Guns are deadly tools and only a fully mature adult should have access to them. Most mass shooters are in their early 20s. We would be able to prevent a lot of gun crime with a minimum age for gun ownership.
Add something to the second amendment that gives the government the right to repossess anyone's firearm for any reason. It is the government's job to look out for our best interest, and it would be a lot easier if they had the ability to take guns away from potentially dangerous people.
Again, I am a 2nd amendment supporter but I think it is long overdue for some changes to account for it being 2017 and not 1791 anymore
Jacob Morales
Great bait mate.
Charles Phillips
Fuck off leaf
David Diaz
Fucking leaf
Aaron Wilson
>hunting or self defense purposes. You do not need a gun for anything else. what is plinking?
Jordan Garcia
Seen this before, copypasta bait. Sage, go rake yourself leaf.
Landon Bennett
SHALL
Daniel Perez
>I support all the amendments that Americans enjoy, but
Fuck off
Lincoln Lee
30 CALIBER MAGAZINE CLIP 600 BULLETS A SECOND ASSAULT WEAPON
Jaxon Harris
Grow the fuck up and have a discussion about things that matter. You laugh at Britain just wait
William Clark
>how to effectively change the 2nd Amendment new text: "all citizens, upon turning the age of 17, are required to undergo 300 hours of firearms training. training shall include handguns, rifles, sub-machine guns, heavy machine guns, all classes of artillery, and ammunition manufacturing for all above mentioned armaments."
Gabriel Jenkins
It should be changed as follow:
"The right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed. Faggots, betas and pussies, shall have no say in any constitutional matter regarding the right to bear arms. Canadians are to be raped by a nigger on sight"
Sebastian Martin
Ok then free speech only applies to newspaper, books and conversations
The founders never intended for every citizen to have mass communication ability in the palm of their hand
kys
Josiah Mitchell
A leaf telling us what we need and dont need. The second amendment will never change and the second someone tries to change it, you will see a huge population decrease, specifically those supporting a change to the 2nd amendment.
Jacob Evans
Fuck'n Canadian
Colton Johnson
a fuckin' leaf - what part aboot "shall not be infringed upon" don't you reckon?
Eli Wright
You're right, the weapons the government has access to is getting outrageously strong.... so the American people need much stronger arms than they currently have.
Every American should have a missile launcher at the very least.
Isaac Hughes
Remove automatic weapons ban. Remove suppressor ban. Force California, New York, Maryland, etc, to honor the 2nd amendment. Disallow states the right to pass laws limiting gun ownership in any way.
Classify niggers and spics as 2nd class citizens (subhuman), and remove their gun rights. Death penalty for subhumans caught with guns. Pass a law teaching gun safety in ALL schools, starting at 5th grade. Mandatory marksmanship classes at highschools.
Pass a tax credit for every gun in a home, and guaranteed refund for concealed carry permit holders. No guns to felons, mentally ill.
I just solved the gun problem in America.
Grayson Carter
OP no just no, maybe extra classes, these guns make America harder to invade and (hopefully never) serve as a check and balance the powers that be in America.
Juan Lee
90% of the army are strong supporters of the 2nd ammendment.
More loyal to the west, the constitution than they are to the (INSERT CURRENT YEAR)congress.
William Cox
So you admit America has a gun problem?
good it's always important to take a first step
Ryder Sanders
We have a nigger problem.
Lincoln Jackson
This is merica we're talking about it. Freedom to do as they please.
Elijah Cooper
Get out.
Blake Moore
>muh assault weapons Kill yourself leaf
John Robinson
Fuck off femboi. I'm sticking around, if i could i would move to the states away from this backwards country
Sebastian Gomez
>It is the government's job to look out for our best interest Learn to differentiate 'ought' from 'is' you retarded leaf. The government is not a magical entity, people are the government. If you can't trust 'the people' to be virtous then you are a retard for trusting the government to be virtuous. The untrustworthy 'people' are the government.
Owen Carter
You sir are correct in every way except not all blacks and spics are bad. Just some, so make them take a evaluation of their mental set every five years.
Nicholas Thompson
Frig off dude seriously. Come on, take it somewhere else.
Mason Ross
>i don't like what he is saying to me >get out of my safe space Fucking KILL yourself and get off pol you useless waste of air and space.
Daniel Russell
We should be able to have stingers.
Zachary Perez
You shoulder the guilt, then, of a father defending his family from Intruders who will inevitably ignore these new reforms, shot while reloading his lethally inefficient magazine into his weapon.
Why the fuck would I load a catapult with a single bean when I can launch a crate full of cans?
Aiden Parker
You wreek of summer.
Joseph Gray
>I support all the amendments that Americans enjoy, but some are long overdue for a serious overhaul
agreed, people need to carry guns where ever they go, they need full auto and no limits on size of bullet or number in cartridge
then we will finally be free
also blacks should have as many guns as they want
Hudson Miller
How about the father does his job properly and secure his home so no people have a chance in breaking in to harm his family?
Angel Jones
>Restoring to calling me a summerfag
Asher Lee
No.
Grayson Lee
Newt Gingrich looking roody poo is what yar
Gabriel Hall
>be OP >be a Leaf >"I support the 2nd Amendment, but"
Fuck off faggot, your navy is rusting away and the only thing preventing the Chinese from invading rather than buying your country is your big brother down south.
Dylan Richardson
You seem upset about my constitutional freedoms
Go slurp a gallon of syrup, you refugee-loving cuck
Justin Nguyen
Fuck, he is going full retard.
Justin Gray
>The 2nd amendment should be changed to specifically say which arms Americans have a right to bear. >Again, I am a 2nd amendment supporter but Yea, no. I don't think so leaf.
Liam Williams
Political power grows from the barrel of a gun. If you were truly egalitarian you would value the right for people to defend themselves.
Cameron Lewis
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED Sage
Blake Williams
How about we invade you and put martial law over your entire fucking country you stupid leaf.
Honestly, you seriously post on pol talking shit about our GREATEST amendment as if it's the problem. You seriously post on pol without knowing that niggers and spics cause all these deaths, not guns. If guns were magically removed somehow, then they'd start killing each other with spears and cars!
Fuck you and your stupid leaf flag, cunt.
Ryan James
Laws will surely stop a fucker from shooting people then offing themselves!
Connor Brown
Sliiiiiiide to the left!
Jeremiah Sanchez
>non-whites are responsible for the problem that affects everyone?
Seriously? Fuck off you ignorant racist
James Butler
...
Luis Stewart
NOT
Wyatt Myers
Six dudes. A millions muzzies and nigga shot more people in an hour
Josiah Cox
Half of those are domestic terrorist who didn't resort to gun violence.
Landon Hall
You just dont get it
Dominic Brooks
For the love of Krishna OP fuck right off your leaf faggot. You've got no dog in this fight. This is an American issue you'll never have the pleasure of participating in other than your spam shit posting.
SAGE GOES IN THE OPTIONS FIELD
Anthony Howard
It doesn't matter what crimes they committed, all the men pictured are evil humans who feel no remorse after killing. Guns contribute to this reality and need to be stopped.
Owen Russell
>You do not need a gun for anything else. Well then go change the bill of needs faggot and stay the fuck away from our bill of rights.
John Foster
I know this is bait. I know you are simply trying to get a rise out me, and you get your jollies from it.
I still want to burn you alive on a pile of leaves.
Nathan Brooks
>Guns contribute
Sorry bro, but the yewnuhh bomber and McVeigh didn't storm a school school with pump action shotguns and AR-15s .
Your argument is invalid.
Parker Morales
Fuck you take my guns I take your life, you beta half nigger faggot.
Colton Robinson
hate and violence are the same concepts regardless of where they come from
Robert Lewis
Goddammit, I love being free!
Samuel Price
How about repealing any gun regulation there was? Gun culture and economy have this in common: if the government is allowed to intervene in any way, it's going to turn to shit invariably fpbp >You laugh at britain, just wait What, you're going to turn yourself into an even bigger laughing stock?
Luke Murphy
But you're arguing guns are the problem using people who used bombs.
It's cool though, you're a shit posting cuck. I'll be over here sipping my freedoms.
Oliver Wright
Bait post, bait thread. 2nd amendment SHOULD be unlimited in its protection of weapon ownership. Any person should be able to own any gun they can afford. Period. For no other reason than they want a fuckall-huge gun.
Brody Howard
we don't have a gun problem leaf, we have a nigger problem.
Michael Gonzalez
shall not be infringed
Wyatt Smith
Someone is paying for these threads, They are here everyday for the last week, every time of the day. Shareblue/Fusion GPS shit. Sage.
Jackson Smith
go rake yourself faggot
Liam Johnson
>Repeal NFA >Require firearms training to obtain concealed weapons permit. /Thread
Blake Price
>feel no remorse why should they feel remorse? It wasn't an accident. Remorse is for cowards. Those boyz snuffed out a bunch of faggots and soccer moms and bootlickers because they believed it was the right thing to do....so they did it.
Ryder Russell
>a fucking leaf Your opinion on the matter is utterly irrelevant.
Ryder Smith
So you would be ok with people carrying around muzzle loaders everywhere? What about muzzle-loading cannons?
Elijah James
But how would we assign crews for the artillery?
Brody Lewis
>I am a second amendment supporter GTFO
Fucking leafs will never understand it because you cucks never had a revolution. Come back when you've grasped the concept of why the 2nd amendment was actually put in there.
Evan Reyes
Has 4cuck really devolved this far? What are you talking about shithead. I'm a leaf too, and you make ALL OF US look like fucking communist faggots. You think they should be cucked like us in canuckistan? What is wrong with you, you god damn slimy jew ?
Tyler Garcia
How many times are you going to post this? KYS
Justin Davis
Oh god not this copypasta slide thread again.
Sage sage sage
Thomas Mitchell
>We would be able to prevent a lot of gun crime with a minimum age for gun ownership.
You do know most crimes involving guns are committed with stolen firearms right?
Come back when you have a clue shit for brains.
Wyatt Green
Posting in epic pasta bread
Connor Peterson
Your opinion doesn't matter.
Angel Ramirez
...
Owen Ortiz
Why are you here? Also, why are you such a sub human with absolutely ZERO balls? How can you support it when you want to alter it? You obviously don't know too much history, other than what that nigger woman says on MTV, so why don't you READ into it, and understand what it's all about. And stop being such a faggot.
Nathaniel Stewart
The only thing to fix is your wagon, faggot. Fuck off and go do Canadian things.
James James
>Add something to the second amendment that gives the government the right to repossess anyone's firearm for any reason.
"...shall not be infringed, except arbitrarily whenever the government feels like it"
Great bait OP.
Elijah Scott
fuck off. shill slide thread. saged and hidden.
Jeremiah Flores
>First of all, I would just like to say that I am a proud gun owner >and I strongly support the 2nd amendment.
No you do not support the second amendment. You are continually shilling for modifications to make it superfluous.
>The world, America specifically, is a completely different place today >in 2017 then it was in 1791 when the 2nd amendment was written. >Time changes everything and it seems like the only thing that hasn't >changed in the past 226 years ago is the 2nd amendment. I would >like to propose some tough, but fair changes to the 2nd amendment that are needed.
The old "it's the current year" strawman. The right to self defense, under this logic, should also change to include more modern weaponry than a flintlock. The thing is the right to self defense is not a right granted by the second amendment, it exists separate from government as a natural right. That right doesn't change with the passage of time.
Elijah Hall
sage
Fuck off shill Fuck off troll
sage
Tyler Myers
>1) Have the 2nd amendment specify exactly which arms Americans have a right to bare. "The Right to Bare Arms" is incredibly unspecific and leaves a lot of questions floating around. I would like to see all assault weapons banned under the 2nd amendment. No one needs assault weapons, and no one needs weapons that have more than 10 bullets in a clip. I have owned guns for close to three decades and have never needed to use more than 3 bullets at once. By banning assault rifles, we would be able to prevent a lot of the senseless gun violence happening in America.
The second amendment does imply exactly which arms Americans have the right to own. The phrase "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state,...", defines "arms" as exactly those that would include those required for a military member, which would include so-called "assault weapons".
The phrase, "... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.", is hardly "incredibly unspecific", in fact it is highly specific.
No one cares about your personal preferences, nor your personal history of gun ownership, or the arbitrary number of bullets one may or may not have in a magazine . Those are irrelevant to the question.
To claim that banning "assault weapons" would "be able to prevent a lot of the senseless gun violence happening in America." Shows a complete lack of understanding of the types of weapons most often used in gun violence in America, as well as gun related deaths in other countries far exceeding that of the US. Stop listening to your lying libtard news and do your own research.
Matthew Miller
research.
>2) I would like to see the 2nd amendment specify a minimum age for firearm ownership. Firearms are extremely deadly weapons and they need to be respected. Only mature adults with fully developed brains should have access to them. It would be an incredible change to make it so no one younger than 25 is allowed to have firearms. This would also prevent a lot of the firearm violence in America as most mass shooters are in their early 20's.
Sorry, but once again, no one cares about what you would like to see, particularly since you are a Canadian citizen, and the second amendment does not apply to you, (though it should). Since males over the age of 18 are required to register for potential Military Service, they are entitled to own firearms and other arms. They should receive well supervised training in their early teens to become responsible gun owners. However, many school districts have removed gun safety training from middle schools, for stupid reasons.
The vase majority of gun crime is committed by 15-35 year old Blacks. This is due to nothing but their own culture. Since many of them have felonies, and/or drug offenses, they are legally forbidden from possessing a firearm. That does not keep them from doing so in large numbers. And yet you would deny others of their same age from being able to protect themselves?
Liam Jenkins
No?! YOU SAY 'NO' TO MY AR-15, YOU FUCKIN' PRICK! YOU AIN'T GONNA ABLE TO SAY 'NO' TO ME WHEN I GET TO YOUR HOUSE, YOU MOTHERFUCKER!!
Jace Sanders
FUCK OFF LEAF CUNT
Luis Flores
why dont u go fix africa?
Sebastian Robinson
>3) Give the government the ability to take firearms from whoever, whenever, and for any reason. It is the governments job to keep us safe. And if they have the ability to take guns away from dangerous people, we will all be so much safer.
Clearly, you do not support the second amendment. Your proposal also violates the fourth amendment and would result in a police state. It is not the governments job to keep you safe, other than maintaining borders from invasion, and other larger concerns the affect the nation as a whole. You are, in the most cowardly fashion, asking others to risk life and limb to take guns away from law abiding citizens to make you feel safe, rather than maintaining responsible gun ownership to assist law enforcement in protecting your community. You have abdicated your responsibility for your own safety to the State, which can not and will not always be there to protect you. If fact, you would be at their complete merci, should they attempt to illegally seize that which is lawfully your own.
>I have many more arguments to present but these are my three most strongest ones. If you have nothing intellectual to contribute to this post please move on.
Really, if these are your strongest arguments, you should just give up. You do not have the intellectual capacity to do anything other the repeat long debunked argument while claiming it is the current year as a pathetically weak argument.
Luke Perez
private citizens used to be able to own cannons when they were the height of military tech. that means that the founding fathers had no problem with Americans owning advanced and devastating weapons.
Zachary Green
American guns are for destroying the government if they get out of line. Hang yourself.
Blake Cook
>repossess anyone's firearm for any reason
... Leaf wants to have a discussion about guns. No you don't. Shill elsewhere.
Zachary Richardson
Read, dumbass leaf.
Grayson Clark
burn anyone who want to take guns
Adrian Perry
what do you mean? you just get a few people at a time and have them learn every role that you need to preform when using artillery.
Jackson Butler
By fix I assume you mean change n entire country to be like you want it to be. Yeah that's not selfish..