The American Constitution is an excellent document and obviously laid the foundation for a great nation...

The American Constitution is an excellent document and obviously laid the foundation for a great nation...but it wasn't perfect.

America can be fixed but it can only be fixed in a way that is completely undemocratic and contrary to the spirit of the Republic.

A lot of the founding fathers were enlightenment hippies who obviously could never have imagined how bad things were going to get. They assumed a tremendous amount (common sense stuff for the 18th c) but a lot has changed since then.

The American government needs a recharge to be able to revert back to its original glory. Almost like what Sulla did with the Roman Republic.

1. American citizens can only be White (of European descent) who speak English
2. Voting needs to be much more restrictive. AKA no more women voting. Men must be taxpayers and be married.
3. Military service is a mandatory requirement for members of Congress
4. All nonwhites lose citizenship and are removed from the country
5. Blacks are given special treatment in that they automatically receive 100k and a free flight to an African nation. Additionally, the African nation that accepts American refugees with receive a large amount from the government
6. Native Americans can stay but are only granted citizenship if they become Christian
7. Freedom of religion only applies to various Christian denominations (Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox, Mormon, JehovahW, etc...we cannot split hairs here) non white Christians can stay but lose voting rights and the right to hold government positions or work certain jobs important to economics, academics, mil, law, culture

Once this has been achieved and codified can the fascist restrictions be lifted and America can return to its new normal. Something the founders would at least recognize.

We could then streamline the government and totally slash taxes and shut down huge amounts of bureaucracy. This would leave us with a right wing libertarian style government.

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Running a streamlined white libertarian style government is absolutely in line with what the founders envisioned. Christianity is necessary to maintain a virtuous Republic.

Socialism is contrary to the American spirit and the government skepticism most Americans naturally feel.

Furthermore, socialism would be unnecessary because the burdens of government and taxation would be so minimal that any hardworking person would be able to get ahead.

We could possible promote programs where homestead farmers rights are protected so we could have a class of people, independent and truly free.

Right to bear arms would need to be rewritten so as to leave no doubt that all men can own modern weapons.

>European descent
that's not a thing since all people's came from not europe.

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Look it basically means white people.

We would have a government department that would determine if you were "white" enough to qualify. Basically its safe to assume that your DNA is heavily European in nature

>americans
>white

Who cares what they wrote to justify their chimpout, its not like anybody followed it.

Its not edgy at all

At its onset the American experiment was about creating a Republic for white people.

Freedom of religion sounds nice except it doesn't take into account that atheists are basically communists and degenerates. Muslims and Jews are not compatible with our society. Not all Jews are bad but there are enough of them who seize institutions and use their power to corrupt.

This is all common sense

I think this is a solution that can unite both libertarians and NatSoc

The only thing we would need to work on is a constitution that limits the worst excesses of capitalism. Im thinking laws against usury.

But generally speaking the government would have a much more limited role in the government. Public schools would all get privatized

if white people are so smart, how come they wrote the constitution that you say sucks so much

>Men must be taxpayers and be married.

No, men must be landowners. Period. Rentfags are woman tier.

The constitution means nothing, the stste takes your guns, violates your privacy, infringes on your rights etc..

Seems like a waste of tax dollars to me. Maybe you should find a job first and get laid loser

Overall Id give the constitution a B+. Its worked quite well for a long time.

The problem is America has become so degenerate and disgusting in the last 50s years it needs life support. Everything I suggested would improve the country dramatically. We are talking about minor changes but they are within the spirit of the constitution and the FF's original vision.

Okay I would be willing to accept that

It means nothing now because liberals have made millions of people traitorous retards

White men can be granted land if they marry.

I have a job and a fiancee thanks for your concern.

In terms of what the creators of the US had and envisioned is a state for white people that respected the rights of the people.

There exists no state founded by blacks in the US thus the USA belongsbsolely to whites and the evil that capitalists did by importing african laborers has nothing to do with me.

Libertarians

>Wanting an ethnostate
>Wanting mandatory religion
>Taking away voting rights from women

You have no idea what the liberty movement is about. Go back to /ptg/ and lose your virginity.

Where do you work? Does your employer know about your views?

There is nothing inherent of the African laborers to do with the US and anything else is simply 60s civil rights propanda painting negroes as integral to the US, when they were just cheaper labor for capitalists than regular laborers.

The founding fathers believed they created a free nation and it was basically just that

>Whites from Northwest Europe
>Heavily Protestant
>No women voted and no one cared

A society needs to be homogenous. The freedom of religion thing is a meme considering most Americans have always been some type of Christian. Muslims don't belong here. Jews are basically evil. Atheists are only slightly okay but a nation filled with them is not good.

Christianity maintains a virtue and morality that is necessary for the survival of the Republic.

Women can't be entrusted with political decisions. They are nation destroyers. No offense ladies.

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I sell my semen for bitcoins and play the accordion at bar mitzvahs

>Japan
>Not good

Sorry but religion only destroys nations. Advanced nations don't need god.

If god is so great, why is the south full of cousin fuckers?

>once [a fascist system of government] has been established can the fascist restrictions be lifted

so the premise is to fix shit and then remove the rules that fixed shit so everything can steadily decline back to shit again?

It would be better for the Japanese if they became Christian. In the past they had Shinto and that at least gave them balls.

What do they have now? Nihilism. Glad all their men are beta faggots who fuck their pillows instead of have children and work like slaves in office jobs.

Your argument is pathetic honestly. Do you think God wants rednecks to fuck their cousins? What kind of stupid shit is this

Its basically like restarting your battery

The changes would be made and codified. This would help the US last well into the future.

It would create a prosperous, white, conservative Republic. Sounds pretty good to me.

Fascism would basically be used to reboot the system which has been fucked by liberals, blacks and Jews.

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A 'qualified voting system' would be best: +1 point for paying taxes, +1 point if you are married, +1 point for every 3 kids, +1 point if you are landowner, +1 point if you own a business or self-employed, +1 point for each 10 employees you have, etc.

-1 if you are single, -1 if documented supporting socialism, -10 if you accept any form of gov handout.

In this way some men (great men) would have 10 votes, some men (trash) would have no votes.

Its the best idea.

Thats interesting but it might give too much power to large business owners

I would add some points to military service or distinguished service

Maybe cap the points at 10 to keep it simple

We'll you have it all figure out, how cute

thanks sweetie

5. Hell no theres already too many blacks in africa i say we send them
Back no money and sink the ships halfway there. Conquer africa and turn it into a big zoo.

No

We give the Blacks the reparations they've been asking for...since forever. Then we never have to deal with them again.

The money we would save by getting rid of welfare would be massive in the longterm

>give them money
>expect them to stop demanding money

Its a one time payoff and they cease to be citizens afterwards. You either take the payment or ICE sends you away with nothing.

why give them money in the first place then? just kick em all out and save money.

I have a better idea let's put every non white on a rocket ship and send them to a black hole. Better plan and came up with it in 2 seconds.

The biggest mistake you burgers ever made was citizenship by birth even if the parents aren't American.

Just had a dude at work tell me all his cousins from Egypt become pregnant and go to USA to have the kid. You guys are fucked soon when all the chink, Arab and poo babies start coming back when they're 18 to get their family residency. Be more like Australia and change that fucking rule

Because that would obviously result in massive amounts of violence and the entire world getting pissed off.

The payoff would actively encourage people to leave, hopefully minimize violence and then we could wash our hands of the situation.

I dont hate black people but whites and blacks obviously don't work well together. Slavery is a huge stain on our nation and they will never get over it. Honestly I don't blame them. Its an issue that will never go away. So we need to address it head on and be done with it forever.

Its basically just a breakup. This isn't working out anymore. We can still be friends. Have some money and go get yourself a nice apartment. Bye

Possibly - you could tweak the numbers 1 vote for every 100 employees, etc. However, the goal of a qualified voting system is 2 fold (a) to make it transparent and explicit that the rich, productive, family men control the system, and (b) neutralize the unproductive, sexually degenerate, etc.

The most repulsive thing about the current system isn't that the rich and powerful control it. Its that they need to bribe the retarded masses into going along with their program. 90% of the manufactured news you see is all just 5-level chess to trick fat unproductive mouthbreathers into going along with the program.

Would be much better if their control was open and transparent for all to see, and end the retarded games. There is no possible political system ever created where the rich and powerful won't control it, so might as well make it a 'feature' of the system instead of a bug.

This is another point that needs to be addressed. I completely agree with you.

5.
>the fuck?

and physically removing the ones that don't take the money to leave won't stir the global pot and piss off all the "humanitarian" watchdog groups?

you are suggesting removing people from a country, removing them from their possessions, removing them from their work, their lifestyles, etc etc. some people will just refuse to leave, no matter how much money. and forcibly deporting them with ICE will inevitably stir up shitstorms.

What would you say if rich powerful businessmen were valued as highly on your scale as award winning soldiers or generals

I really like your idea its very interesting. I just think you should open it up to value others too.

I think a simple farmer could be just as virtuous or intelligent as a big business owner.

Sure but at least we are offering the pay. Long term it will be worthwhile. And if the program is successful and makes America truly great again no one will ever care.

Liberals will always complain about everything. We should just ignore their crying.

How else are you going to get black people to leave America.

A lot of American leaders tried to get them to move to Liberia. This is nothing new just an updated version of that idea

the system we have now would work great if women were not allowed to vote and all non-whites no matter what their political and religious affiliations are were removed.

The founders never factored in the jews. That's the real problem. The US would have progressed into either a centralized fascist state, or a federated nation with fascist states and a liberal central government.

The two main things that need to happen to fix our constitution is:

1) Not everything should be able to be changed by amendment. These elements of the Nation would be according to natural law.

2) State secession should be a mandatory part of the constitution, unchangeable by amendment. An offensive invasion of a seceeded state would therefore be illegal. Lincoln's war would have been illegal under this clause, even though the confederacy shot first, he would have had no legal precedent to invade the south because most of the war was offensive.

Thats basically what this program is.

But the religious aspect needs to be addressed. If you still permit freedom of religion you are allowing Jews to subvert the system again. By addressing the Jewish problem you ensure that the government can actually work into the future.

>allowing secession

Fuck no. Whats going to stop a hundred different micro nations from being created? The states are fine as is. Division allows foreign powers to mess around in our politics. Besides there would be nothing to secede over and the states could have the freedom to basically do what they wanted.

Some other things that I believe are necessary:

1) A change to the executive branch: just as the speaker of the house is elected by the house, the Vice President would be elected by the senate, however, they would have equal power, similar to the two roman consuls of the republic. If the President dies or is removed from office, they will attain the same authority of the President until a new President is elected

2) A change to the electoral college: The original purpose of the College was not because a group of elites should elect the president, but because of the same reason the Great Compromise was made. Back then, the population centers were states, but as technology progressed, individual cities became population centers. The President is the President of the whole country, not a few cities. City dwellers will automatically vote for more left-wing executives, leaving behind country folk who want right-wing policies. Country folk also have a more vested interest in the land than city folk, so they should have higher representation than city folk. Without this, we see the problems we have now. In fact, this was part of the reason the south left the Union.

The problem now is seen very well in California: The more rural eastern Californians largely vote republican, yet all of the votes of their districts are determined by people in LA, San Francisco, and San Diego. A simple change could be made by having electors from representative districts vote depending on how their district votes, not how the whole state votes, and Senatorial electors would be determined by how the State votes.

I don't know how I feel about a co consul plan. I think the President should have the right to pick his VP.

A co-consulship is going to be too complex and too new for most Americans to understand. The way it is now is simple and effective. You are adding an entire new layer to our government that could open up a new can of worms.

If anything I would revert to old Senate rules when Senators are picked by the state legislatures...not the people.

Finally, the United States Constitution should enshrine the nation as a nation by and for EUROPEAN descended peoples, excluding jews. In fact, it's the jews who got us in this mess in the first place.

As for voting, I mostly agree with your points with the exception of the "men must be married" clause. Most men wouldn't get married until they are 30 in an ideal society, they would marry women around 10 years younger than them. You're eliminating the will of millions of young men this way.

The voting part brings up something about states rights though. States should be able to individually determine who should be able to vote in state elections, independent of the US government

Based on the points system we could still let young men vote...18...but they would get less points than lets say a 30 year old man with a hot young wife

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The reason the Roman Republic failed was simply a decline in the Roman character. There was nothing to save because the rot had set in slow motion. The Roman Empire was a very long swan song. This analog is similar to what we experience in Western civilization today.

The consulship of the House and Senate leaders only comes into play if the President is removed from office. A much fairer thing than the current line of succession, if you ask me.

The point of this is that the Vice President has been relegated to a campaign tool and a Senate tiebreaker and nothing more than that. Why should a campaign tool be one heartbeat away from the most powerful office in the land? Look what we got with LBJ. Look what we got with Andrew Johnson. Look what we got with Gerald Ford. This is a real crack in the system.

With this new system, the President of the Senate would handle duties specific to the state legislature and be able to execute state-specific law, the Speaker of the House would handle duties specific to the representative legislature, and execute people specific law. They would be a true bridging of the gap between the Executive and Legislative branches, something that is sorely needed.

>If anything I would revert to old Senate rules when Senators are picked by the state legislatures...not the people.

I 100% agree. Every amendment Woody Wilson signed was shit. This really was a huge blow to (the already dead) federated Nation. I think most amendments after the Bill of Rights are shit, it's why much of the Constitution should not be modifiable.

Okay I see what you are saying with the co-consul thing now. That sounds pretty awesome actually.

My only concern is that...what if we were in a state of war and they disagreed on what to do? If they vetoed each others decisions you would be left with inaction and potentially destruction.

Secession is the only hard power that States have against the Union. When that hard power is removed, a true Federal Nation doesn't exist anymore

>Whats going to stop a hundred different micro nations from being created?

First of all, there's only 50 states.

Secondly, leaving the Union would be a big deal. The Constitution would enshrine that the only way for a state to leave the Union would be to do so in the state legislature by the same mode as the federal amending process.

Last, but not least, as long as being in the Union benefits states, there would be no reason to leave. Think Brexit: The EU is a detriment on Britain, so, they are lobbying to leave. If the EU were a working system like it used to be, there would be no Brexit.

Whats going to stop portions of states from seceding from the main body.

I live in upstate NY. Its basically a cold version of Alabama in upstate...absolutely nothing like NYC.

My fear would be a massive chain reaction of mini states that would be created...diluting the power of the union against foreign enemies.

The Civil War should be the only lesson we need on this.

>My only concern is that...what if we were in a state of war and they disagreed on what to do?

I'm glad you asked.

In the Roman Republic, one consul was responsible for domestic policy, the other for foreign policy. I would see the same thing happening here.

The only possible problem would be: which one handles foreign and which one handles domestic?

Intuitively, I'd think the President of the Senate would handle foreign, since protection of the people and trading with other nations is the job of the State(s).

In this rare scenario, though, I'd probably have a clause where a Dictator would be appointed for war, but his only power would be to wage war unless the homeland is invaded. In that case he would have special war privilages similar to a Roman Dictator.

Okay so peacetime transition.
Senate Pres - Foreign, House- Domestic

War
How about this? Senate elects one of its own to the position of Dictator for a period of 6 months. Though unlike a real Roman dictator I don't think we would need to abolish the laws and give him total authority.

I would be concerned we wouldn't get a Cincinattus. Although Lincoln did suspend Habeas Corpus during the civil war.

That was the original constitution....

You're women tier

>My fear would be a massive chain reaction of mini states that would be created.
>The Civil War should be the only lesson we need on this.

This never happened in the civil war except for a small county in Alabama.

>Whats going to stop portions of states from seceding from the main body?

States should be viewed as individual States within the all-encompassing Federal Nation. They would have the capability of being National Socialist or Fascist, unlike the Federal government. These individual States have no federalism within them--no legal process for secession (unless you're Texas). The only way for a part of a state to "secede" would be through bloody conflict, which would likely not occur within a National Socialist State--not even within a functioning liberal republic.

Fuck off Christ cuck. Only retards worship a made up Jew on the stick.

I don't think a Senator is capable of waging an effective war. He would be acting as commander-in-chief, remember? no fucking way.

>Though unlike a real Roman dictator I don't think we would need to abolish the laws and give him total authority.

I said his only power would be to wage war didn't I? Not like a Roman Dictator at all, unless the homeland is invaded.

>I would be concerned we wouldn't get a Cincinattus.

The Romans, of course, only had one Cincinattus. Most other Dictators abused their power. I don't think there is any possiblity for this allowed in my system.

Shut up Thottany Venti.

>OMG
also nice tag

Yeah...thats the point. Hence Sulla. We are just trying to correct the problems the Founding Fathers could never have predicted. Their love of the Enlightenment was their biggest weakness.

I think Fascism is unnecessary once we go through the changes we were talking about. Once we unfuck the country it should be on a solid footing.

Furthermore socialism is repugnant to most Americans and goes against the original spirit of the nation. By embracing socialism you are going to immediately turn off a lot of potential patriots. Everyone realizes America is fucked right now. It just needs to get back to basics.

I understand the logic behind secession but I really don't think it should be allowed. If the states have a strong degree of freedom it should be completely unnecessary. It just seems like an achilles heel

Alright so how would you choose the dictator who only had military powers?

>only retards

So basically every American in history and all the Europeans for hundreds and hundreds of years?

>each black receives 100k

Even every single black person getting $1 would be a lot of money

I completely agree with you OP and this is what is needed, but can we ever realistically achieve this goal? Never mind the huge backlash, and possibly civil war, that would occur, we still need to work on the Christian Right and end the problem of an unscientific America. Obviously Christianity would be ideally be promoted but we can't let this reign of anti-intellectualism go any further.

The first steps I think should be taken are to end the problems of Creationism and biblical literalism.

Just 3,809,372,500,000 dollars as a base cost to get the deportations done. So about 10 trillion dollars if it all goes smoothly.

Did you think this through beyond 'MUH HWIETE CHRISCHUNS!'?

Brobably through a Joint Session of Congress.

He would also lose all power once a President is elected. A Snap Election for President would take place in 6 months after the former President's removal/death. Very low chance for a Dictator to consolidate power in that time.

Think longterm. We could also get rid of the welfare programs and that would help in a big way. Think of it as an investment in the future.

The figure (100k) is obviously negotiable but it should be big enough to entice them to leave willingly.

>non white Christians can stay
This is a no go

For every child a white family has they are rewarded 10 ten percent of their total mortgage amount on primary residence. If you have 10 children, your house is completely paid off. Do this for 20 years.

The only thing they should need to entice them is the butt of a gun and the promise of restoring their Egyptian ancestors' high technology!

Based post. Americans,why aren't you doing this?

meanwhile our founders studied alchemy, natural law, freemasonry, astrotheology, and hermeticism... kys faggot.

Alright would they be choosing from Congress? Any citizen? The military? I would assume they would choose from high ranking officers.

We are not creating a theocracy just ensuring that its the dominant cultural force...which it basically always was until the 1960s.

I hope we could have some excellent theological, philosophy debates in the colleges and maybe run them on TV. Either way Christianity is good and we need it. A republic needs virtue to survive.

By exposing beliefs and debating them openly people can figure out the truth for themselves.

Like I said in another post the 100k is just a random number. We could really look at it more seriously if ever given the chance.

>I would assume they would choose from high ranking officers.
yes

>the government would have a much more limited role in the government
So a levelcap of rank 50 bureaucracy only? No more Rank 99 bureaucracy spawntraps, just a pay-to-win model.

The only non-whites that could stay would be Native Americans. Eventually they would all get bleached.

Spics all get ICEed though

Because it would basically involve a massive civil war and is only possible if the entire government collapses

But thank you

How is this solved now that the Goldman Brotherhood owns basically everything?

>Blacks are given special treatment in that they automatically receive 100k and a free flight to an African nation

Let's do the math.

Approx. 13.3% of the US population was black in 2016, with a total population of 323,127,513.
That means there were roughly 42,975,959 black people.
Giving each nigger a hundred thousand dollar cheque would require the Federal Reserve to print $4,297,595,900,000 (4.297 trillion dollars)
One-way tickets to Africa currently average out at approx. $850 for a single adult in economy class seating (Google Flights), and that's a bit of a lowball.
So that's an additional $36,529,565,150 (36.53 billion)
Now, for the shitty part...
>Additionally, the African nation that accepts American refugees with receive a large amount from the government

Let's assume that the largest country in Africa, which is Algeria, takes them all. Their currency is the Dinar, which has a USD:DZD exchange rate of 1:108.04.
So let's say we pay Algeria 100,000 Dinar per head. That's approx. $925.58/person. Talk about buying in bulk!
Unfortunately, that adds an additional $39,777,688,131.20 (39.78 billion) to our spending. Yikes.

Let's total this shit up:

$4,297,595,900,000.00
$0,036,529,565,150.00
+ $039,777,688,131.20
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$4,373,903,153,281.20
That's 4.37 trillion dollars.
Just this thing alone would destroy the US economy, plunging the world into an unprecedented economic recession.

So maybe let's just let the nogs kill each other in the ghettos, eh?

Source for nigger population:
census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045216

Lol okay 100k was just a half assed estimate

I don't advocate genocide. Perhaps we could pull a Mitt Romney and invent a system where they would self deport themselves

Black people are humans, just a different race. i don't hate them and don't want them to die. Its just not working out here.

>business owners
>not degenerate

However, look on the bright side! There are several positives to removing the colored folk. Pic related!

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I think the most important thing to realize is that a party that is outright fascist or NatSoc is inherently un-American and will always be rejected by patriots and slightly redpilled normies.

Socialism is un-American.

The movement should be about restoring the original values laid down by our Founding Fathers. The constitution is good but not perfect. We can make it better by doing all the things we talked about here and probably more.

Right wing movements are all unique. The American counterpart cannot reject the Constitution.

Americans are by nature are skeptical of government and independent minded. NatSoc is basically the opposite of this...you are going to be fighting a hard losing battle uphill. Besides its very European.

Thats why Rockwell looked autistic