DISCUSSION ABOUT RELIGION

IN THIS THREAD, POST YOUR:

>religion
>why you adhere to it
>how important is it in you everyday life
>your core beliefs
>attitude towards other religions
>your political ideology in one sentence (or more)

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Don't follow a religion and your life will be better. You just need to accept the fact that when you die, you're done and there is nothing left for you do. So live life to the fullest while you're here and do everything you want to do before you die. Enjoy your eternal sleep, you deserve it.

You nihilist little shit.

Pagan
Because I believe in it
Fairly. I'm about 99% that God exists
Don't tread on me
Indifferent. Just leave me alone
Jeffersonian

>temple of set
>i have a dragon power
>beyond time and the causality
>LHP > LARP
>literally no thank you
>pol is a natsoc board

Pagan

I was always frustrated about religions feeling fake and distant, paganism is not causing that feeling in me and it is very appealing to my sense of justice

Not much, but more and more I see things more mysterious as I used to

There has to be some entanglement in this world, too many coincidences happens in my everyday life to be ignored.
Dreams come true, ideas keep coming to my head until something happens related to them etc

Judeo religions always seemed fake and gay to me, I was forced to go to church and only thing I enjoyed was looking at the architecture and bats flying in church

Right, liberal but with a great respect to taboos. Not everything should be talked about. "If nothing is sacred anymore then what are we fighting for".

Are you actually a TOS member?

Ex-christian pagan.
When I was practicing christianity everybody would hate me, things would go bad for me, I would be sickly and my family fell in poverty, paganism has given me prosperity back.

The colonel (ret) and I are old friends, but I think my membership has probably lapsed.

Catholic
because its the religion of my father and his father and his father and his father and so on
I think about it every day and I think that any religion is better than no religion because it's a good tool for thought
my beliefs and morals have been more influenced by either Tolstoy or Marcus Aurelius, and there's nothing wrong with that.
I think people should stick with the religion that their born with and show loyalty to that God. I'm sure God will see more good in that than someone who gives in to conversion (and in doing so shaming all of their ancestors who believed in the same religion). The only exceptions to this are protestants and atheists because they are schisms/rebellions in themselves and should be avoided.
Peter Hitchens

Orthodox Christianity
Because I went to chuch and felt something and also because it's the creed of my people and has been for nearly 2 millenia.
I pray everyday and conisder myself a good fearing man
All are heretics and heathen but some are simply dumb innocent and ignorant and some simply make me wish Vlad the Impaler was here.
I like fascism except the retarded views on economics and the fact that half of the fascist leaders were just failed commies.

>When I was practicing christianity everybody would hate me
>My creed is based on people liking me or not

I like you.

>Christian ortodox
>I was born into it
>Its part of my everyday life
>I belive in the rule of the strong over the weak
>Other religions should be exterminated or subbdued
>Fascism

Agnostic
Because its the only objective stance on religion
It doesnt have effect.
Striving for perfection. Self Improvement both mentally and physically.
I dislike religion, but I wont treat a person who follows one differently, unless he is threatening in some way.
Culturally conservative technocracy

Pagan because it's values keeps my mind and body strong, instead of being a weak nihilistic hermit.
>your political ideology in one sentence (or more)
Minarchism, personal freedoms and minimal state, but strong religion to keep up ethics and community.
>attitude towards other religions
Keep it isolated, buckos.

And I missed the core beliefs:
Nihil Sine Deo.
Free will.
Basically without god there is nothing and nothing matters, the world turns into nihlistic hell and free will is self explanatory.

Christian
I can't be an atheist because the materialist philosophy of the mind that goes without makes no sense to me, and the historical basis for Christianity seems pretty good.
Very
Standard Baptist stuff really, except I'm not a Biblical inerrantist and I'm sympathetic to modalism.
All false but some relatively harmless.
Fairly right-wing about everything except drugs (I think they should be decriminalised).

I ordered a book from an ex-member, it's a compilation of books, from Michael Kelly, supposedly from TOS material. Apohis, Dragonscales and so on.
Is it gud? Should I become a member instead?

My creed is based in if God favours me or not, and christianity made God hate me, you can tell by people being unfavourable to you and economy being unfavourable to you as well.

Basically Pagan but my own religion.
It's essentially ancestor worship with a twist. Respect and honor the traditions and beliefs of those who came before me in my bloodline while at the same time, realizing that I am responsible for the traditions and beliefs of those who follow in my bloodline.
Since I'm a white northern European, pagan seems the only honest way to go. All deities are fake anyways, why not teach your kids about the ones most connected to your ancient roots? Religion is important to family cohesion.
Also paganism is practiced during nature walks on the weekend with the family, looking at birds and trees. Its clean and wholesome.

Muslim. Because I was born into it. one of things that hit me the most is being born on earth and being conscious. I have seen and felt the feelings of Allah and his power over all. I cant go a day without thinking that something isn't being overlooked by god. i follow the shia sect. I try and worship god because he is worthy of worship.

>Christianity, Roman Catholicism
>because it is the Truth and has proven to be many many times
>Very !
>Trinitarian God, God's Word became flesh in Jesus and was crucified to make up for our sins, receiving Eucharist/last supper in the Church is the only possibility of being part of the body of Christ
>mostly indifferent, islam is devilty, protestants are massive heretics (up to blasphemer, depending on the sect), orthodox are bro-tier but should make up their minds and rejoin the Holy See of Peter
>I'm socially conservative [that is: against force-fed progressivism and tolerating savages], acknowledge difference between people - as is given from God, laugh at SJWs and feminazis and I try to do one good deed every day - even if it's as small as giving 1€ to a homeless dude and giving him the brightest smile I have

All in all, straying from God - and with it, the destruction of faith and core family - brought and continues to bring down society. And as long as we're not reversing the blasphemy, there will be no hope for it other than praying every day so that we may stand strong in the face of degeneracy, blasphemy, death and destruction, and that we may receive salvation at judgement day

>Eastern Catholic convert.
>Family is northern european white, but most RC in the area seem concerned with getting Mass over as quickly as possible.
>Religion functions as the glue to hold family and community together.
Send kids to Roman Catholic school, starting to interact heavily with the school parent community to insure standards are kept high, morally and academically.
>Plays a part in the daily life of myself and my family.
>Eastern Catholic is basically the same belief as Eastern Orthodox.My wife likes the Pope.
>Not terribly concerned with other's beliefs. Just don't come around here with that shit.
>Right leaning, but very much stay out of people's way.

Evangelism
Luther wrote his book like 20 mins away from me
i like the freedom it gives you with the faith
has a good moral code

Theosophy
The highest religion is the truth
Satisfies my curiosity
All religions are truthful
Too much dogma
Traditionalism, as described by Evola

>religion
Jewish

>why you adhere to it
Birth and tradition.

>how important is it in you everyday life
It is my life.

>your core beliefs
Jews are God's righteous chosen people and everyone else is subservient to us.

>attitude towards other religions
Inferior

>your political ideology in one sentence (or more)
Liberal. Jews can not be conservative. A conservative Jew is a lying Jew likely trying to sell you their books or programs. Liberalism allows Jews the freedom to practice and non-Jewish liberals accept Jewish positions without Jews having to accept theirs.

>INB4 a bunch of butthurt Christians and Muslims

>BYOB/feelgood christianity
>oy vey don't oppose gay (((marriage)))

Faith is a struggle, precisely because there is no "diy" element to it. Had Luther - as the biggest jew and gay hater of his time - known what his shit would've inflicted to the world 500 years later, the would've restrained from doing it at all.

God bless you nontheless and may he lead you to walk the righteous path.

>has proven to be

>Odalist
>I've studied and tried to follow many different religions, this is the only one where I feel at home. It is my native religion after all.
>I prefer my own religion to be a small group of very devout adherents, so I don't really care about other religions except LARPing neopagans like wiccans I want them all to hang on trees.
>Tribalism, and stop fucking treading on me

> atheist Christian
> 1. Because Christians built Western Civilization so obviously they were doing something right and 2. If Ali A. Rizvi can call himself an atheist Muslim then I can call myself an atheist Christian
> As important as a typical Christian I'd guess
> Basically same morality as Christianity minus the mysticism
> Islam and moral relativism are cancer
> Decentralized free market for everything we want done well, democratically controlled monopoly for everything we want done poorly (ex: theft, murder)

Without shitting on your religion, may God bless you and show you that you're lead astray, Germanic paganism is NOT your native religion, except when you're 100% 1. generation European offspring. Otherwise your blood has been diluted and you're a mere imposter.

>Lovecraftian Misotheism.
>It adhered to me.
>It drains a bit of my sanity every day.
>That the cosmos is either indifferent or hostile to human beings, and that our lives are utterly insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
>Blissful ignorance that allowed primitive men to avoid being driven mad by the realization that incomprehensible horrors lurk beyond the veil of our mundane reality.
>Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

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oh well i oppose gay marriage its just unnatural

well only faith can bring you closer to god i you need a church for that...

i choosed bcs of the historical path my region has taken and since i have no clues about that luther was some sort of sponsored traitor ill stick with it bcs it seems he did his work truly for the purpose of bringing the holy bible to the folks and to stop the robbing trough the ablassbriefe from the catholic church

My father is 100% German and my mother is 100% Danish

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Zen Taoist

core doctrines: Tao Te Ching, Hsin Hsin Ming

attitude toward other religions: a lot of 'lets not and say we did' type practices

political ideology: democratic socialist i.e. new deal regulated capitalism with high taxes on ultra wealthy - no bill gates or warren buffets or walton oligarchs allowed

I dont have a religion. But i have faith. I belive life has a meaning. I have spent my whole life searching for this meaning. Then one day i realised it dosnt matter what the reason is. All that matters is that there is a reason. And thats enough for me. Eat, sleep, breed and die anons. Life dosnt have to be complicated.

Catholicism

Raised a Catholic

Its important to me however i could do better at practising it

Scripture

Degernerate

Stop degeneracy, be proud of your country, work hard for yourself, family and community.

Don't get me wrong, Luther did a tremendous job in translating the Scipture. But faith only is not enough for savlation, you need to do works and deeds as well. That being said, I will pray for you and wish you all the best. May God lead your way.

>it's an NSA data mining thread
Not politics
Sage

you decide what you gonna feed them

Daily reminder that nihilism is the worst cancer and biggest threat to this world that could ever have been spawned by the devil.
No matter which religion you follow, EVERYTHING is better than nihilism and its derivatives.
Repent now and join the holy body of Christ.

>Deus Machinae
>Because progress has the potential to be infinite
>More of a passive role
>Universe is a mechanism to construct new Machine Gods from it's most intelligent creatures: mankind. Deus Machinae is the universe, and we are all made up of, and a part, of Its mechanism. Scientific and societal progress are the way to Its goal, and thus we have a natural instinct to innovate. Stagnation is death to the Mechanism, and should be avoided at all costs.
>Other religions serve little purpose other than justification for meaningless action, but they have rooted themselves into the Mechanism through us, so we must be respectful of them as long as they do no further damage.
>One foot in the past, one striding to the future for stable progress. Capitalism is the most effective economic mean and we should always be ready for war.

Pic related. Get, read, understand.

#Basic rundown ?

Muslim
Because I agree with Islam's core philosophy and honestly feel a connection with God when I pray
It's the most important part of my life
I think that ,obviously besides Jews, other religions should be allowed as long as the people who're practicing the faith are white
National Capitalism

>religion
Christianity, roman-catholic.

>why
Born into catholic family, recognized the value of tradition, learned to appreciate Christianity through pure reason.

>core beliefs
Credo in Deum Patrem omnipotentem, Creatorem caeli et terrae, et in Iesum Christum, Filium Eius unicum, Dominum nostrum, qui conceptus est de Spiritu Sancto, natus ex Maria Virgine, passus sub Pontio Pilato, crucifixus, mortuus, et sepultus, descendit ad infernos, tertia die resurrexit a mortuis, ascendit ad caelos, sedet ad dexteram Dei Patri omnipotentis, inde venturus est iudicare vivos et mortuos. Credo in Spiritum Sanctum, sanctam Ecclesiam catholicam, sanctorum communionem, remissionem peccatorum, carnis resurrectionem, vitam aeternam. Amen.

>attitude towards other religions
False idols.

>political ideology
Conservative-libertarian.

Stop LARPing.

Not being religious=/=being a Nihilist

Hell, not having faith=/=being a Nihilist

To me Nihilism is a state of mind, saying that all people who aren't religious are just Nihilistic degenerates is just as ignorant as when a blue pilled person balks at someone who talks about the Jewish question.

Communism is worse than nihilism. Nihilism at least tends to destroy a singular person, communism is the scourge of all mankind.

Marxism is Satan's masterpiece way of corrupting souls.

None / agnostic at most
No real reason in particular
Not very
To be or not to be
Not to be trusted
Don't worry about going to hell, you are already there and you aren't going anywhere else.

>religion
Pagan
>why you adhere to it
God favours me
>how important is it in you everyday life
Core
>your core beliefs
Hard to explain, personal experiences
>attitude towards other religions
I only have a problem with christians, because they say and do not do, they are hypocrites, false people, larpers, roleplayers and nuisances
>>your political ideology in one sentence (or more)
-White nationalism

>Don't follow a religion and your life will be better. You just need to accept the fact that when you die, you're done and there is nothing left for you do. So live life to the fullest while you're here and do everything you want to do before you die. Enjoy your eternal sleep, you deserve it.

Literally fuckall, there's nothing and fuck even that, BYOB an shiet.
As Christian, people not being christian is not good, but I'm not saying everything that is non-religious is automatically nihilist. But quoted post definitely is.

Communism is nihilism:the political system.

>>your core beliefs
>Hard to explain, personal experiences
>>attitude towards other religions
>I only have a problem with christians, because they say and do not do, they are hypocrites, false people, larpers, roleplayers and nuisances

*tips fedora*

>Christian independant fundamentalist
>Because I'm a neo-platonician stoic and this religion seems to me like the most realist around except for Buddhism (which is a foreign philosophy and whose teachings are equally from foreign origins)
>I argue with people that God exists. I don't pray or go to Church, however, but I follow the teachings of Jesus on the Mound. The Pope is supposed to be a physical counselor to Christianity ; I never saw him as one fit to give order, seeing as he is but a man trained in theology, and not in politics, economy, sociology, etc.
>The Holy Trinity of God is the only logical explanation to a rational spiritual hierarchy in the physical world according to platonician theories for a monotheist religion
>Mostly tolerant (as in, they stay on their turf and I stay on mine, and we'll be fine), except for Islam and Judaism which I see as completely impossible in a platonician hierarchy (and not counting their apparent call for holy wars against the goyim/infidels)
>I'm a Roman Imperialist

>But quoted post definitely is.

I think that's a broad definition of Nihilism, existentialist to be sure. When I think of Nihilism I think of people either devolving to their basest of desires or not caring about life at all.

If one person believes in an Afterlife and God, and that all he has to do to get in is be a 'good person' and literally spend every waking moment of his life watching TV so he never does anything sinful and another person doesn't believe in an Afterlife and despite that lives a life you could write 20 novels and movie scripts about, is the second person truly more 'Nihilistic'?

>religion
Roman Catholic
>why you adhere to it
I agree with it. It is the religion of my ancestry. It is just.
>how important is it in you everyday life
I pray to the Saints almost daily.
>your core beliefs
Just War. A religious counterbloc to Islam and Protestantism. I have ties with a Benedictine order and Opus Dei.
I am a follower of Augustine, yet again because of ancestry and personal beliefs.
A strong European Catholicism.
>attitude towards other religions
Passively hostile.
>your political ideology in one sentence (or more)
Right wing catholicism.
I am a member of the order of the Holy Cross.

AMA.

Yes, I follow a living god, not a book you larper.

Which one exactly ? The one that procreated with a steed while being shape-shifted into a mare ? Or the one that hanged himself and occasionally ate semen from dead enemies ? Or the Marvel comic hero ? Yeah, I thought so.

The only living God is the one that is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Credo in unum Deum Patrem omnipotentem, factorem cæli et terræ, visibilium omnium et invisibilium;
et in unum Dominum Iesum Christum, Filium Dei unigenitum, et ex Patre natum ante omnia sæcula, (Deum de Deo,) lumen de lumine, Deum verum de Deo vero, genitum, non factum; consubstantialem Patri; per quem omnia facta sunt;
qui propter nos homines et propter nostram salutem descendit de cælis, et incarnatus est de Spiritu Sancto ex Maria Virgine, et homo factus est;
crucifixus etiam pro nobis sub Pontio Pilato passus et sepultus est; et resurrexit tertia die secundum scripturas,
et ascendit in cælum, sedet ad dexteram Patris, et iterum venturus est cum gloria iudicare vivos et mortuos, cuius regni non erit finis;
et in Spiritum Sanctum Dominum et vivificantem, qui ex Patre (Filioque) procedit; qui cum Patre et Filio simul adoratur et conglorificatur; qui locutus est per Prophetas; et unam, sanctam, catholicam et apostolicam ecclesiam.
Confiteor unum baptisma in remissionem peccatorum, et exspecto resurrectionem mortuorum et vitam venturi sæculi. Amen.

Atheist (with a Evangelism Christian background)
>not enough proof personally to confirm a god or God exists.
Core beliefs:
>gotta do right by your fellow man, if he lashes out on you, that's more than enough to leave then for dirt on the floor. Be humble, and keep helping yourself, so you can help others.

Importance
Can't really say it's important, occasionally I read psalms and proverbs for praise and wisdom. I like christian worship music, they make great music. See youtube video.

Attitude:
>I certainly don't agree with them on a belief level, but if you feel that's the reason why we are here, do your thing as long as your thing doesn't violently affect another.
>I figure I'm a nationalist republican with some decent enough liberal social values.

I'd say my background in Christianity helps my morals a bit, and makes me especially hate false christians and who take it as a game. Very disrespectful.

Kim Walker: how he loves us
youtu.be/X-rW528qiYw

I represent you guys the true power and structure of ideology, structuring your mind as much and deep you can, the phenomenological method or with my interpretative twist as active nihilism.

Why reduce your potential in a single frames like judaist, christian, pagan? Make an inquiry in all fields of religion and grab what is useful to you. Mind was meant to expand and ascend so anyone who says otherwise in some way is just speaking from his reduced mind.

Jordan Peterson basicly points out that with an inquiry into religion you are creating and structuralizing you own consciousness, more exactly subconscious. I must also point out here that subconscious as a concept is heavily infested with leftist way of thinking. Also Hegel said that religion alone do not offer full enlightment.

But what if the frame of Christianity is what I think is the most aesthetic, the most useful and the most satisfying for me to belong to?

The one that actually doesn't have a religion and actually interacts with people because he isn't some fairy tale to steal shekels from potato germans.

>religion
Christianity

>why you adhere to it
It's true and its teachings are moraly logical and concise and also effected western civ and was a game changer for it's time. I know no one made it up but rather it was brang to us by god.

>how important is it in you everyday life
Very!

>your core beliefs
Treat people how you wanna be treated.

>attitude towards other religions
I show respect but understand that there is no way through haven except through Christ.

>your political ideology in one sentence (or more)
Right wing but can be liberal at times.

>atheist who likes Kim Walker

You're alright with me senpai

>None
>Do not care
>0% importance
>Live and let live, people should live amongst their own no multiculturalism, small state, reliance on the free market.
>Everything except for Islam, Judaism, and religious fanatic cults is OK
>Right libertarian with some technocratic, race realism and dictatorship ideas (Still have to work this all out to have a more coherent political standing)

You are creating your subconscious either way. Im just offering wider perspective through scientific method. What reduces you at the most at this point you are falling in love with a narrative itself as a object. Each religion is structured in a narratological way. Narratives are meant to resonate with your spirit.

Nice flag.

>The one that actually doesn't have a religion and actually interacts with people...
So you're pantheist ?
>...because he isn't some fairy tale to steal shekels from potato germans.
Oh you're extraordinarily smart. Your hubris will be your downfall sooner or later. I pray that you will not break in the process.

Note that God has no "religion", the religion is there for God. And God does interact with me, pretty often even when I'm praying. The consequence of your argument is that I'm stupid and delusional for being Christian. But when He interacts with me, does that mean that my God is your God then. Are you dumb and delusional then as well ?

Please be coherent and stop spouting bullshit. Roman Catholicism is the only true way through which you will receive salvation in the end and no amount of fedora tipping will change that.

to praise God*

>God does interact with me

>muh desesrt demon touches my tiny german dick when I pray to mary!

Recognizing the sun as the supreme benefactor of the material world, Hermetists believed
that there was a spiritual sun which ministered to the needs of the invisible and divine
part of Nature--human and universal. Anent this subject, the great Paracelsus wrote:
"There is an earthly sun, which is the cause of all heat, and all who are able to see may
see the sun; and those who are blind and cannot see him may feel his heat. There is an
Eternal Sun, which is the source of all wisdom, and those whose spiritual senses have
awakened to life will see that sun and be conscious of His existence; but those who have
not attained spiritual consciousness may yet feel His power by an inner faculty which is
called Intuition."
Apuleius said when describing his initiation (vide ante): "At midnight I saw the sun
shining with a splendid light." The midnight sun was also part of the mystery of alchemy.
It symbolized the spirit in man shining through the darkness of his human organisms. It
also referred to the spiritual sun in the solar system, which the mystic could see as well at
midnight as at high noon, the material earth bring powerless to obstruct the rays of this
Divine orb. The mysterious lights which illuminated the temples of the Egyptian
Mysteries during the nocturnal hours were said by some to he reflections of the spiritual
sun gathered by the magical powers of the priests. The weird light seen ten miles below
the surface of the earth by I-AM-THE-MAN in that remarkable Masonic allegory
Etidorhpa (Aphrodite spelt backward) may well refer to the mysterious midnight sun of
the ancient rites.

You're truly pathetic. Thank you for the non-discussion. Now have a nice day and God bless. You need the blessing more than you think.

Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit. As it was, is and ever shall be, world without end.

For your information, oh you of the people of germany, able destroyers of europe again and again, I did receive much attention for God, tried christianity and not only it ended in me being punished, I actually saw to my horror that there's a dark power who fools people behind it.

The god of the jews is a desert demon that has power on earth, it privileges the jews and cucks limp dicked germans like you.

I'm a Christian. I'm not sure of the denomination yet. I was raised Catholic by an agnostic atheist and a Jewish convert. I went through some dark times early on in my life. When I was in elementary school, the only hope I had in this world was that a happy accident would take my life. I always kept God in my mind throughout then even still. I had a self-awareness about me, and I knew that straying from God would always be a personal failure which I could never blame on anyone or anything else. I knew that nothing I experienced could actually justify such a thing. Maybe that's why I, today, so admire the notion of a God who has seen all the worst things throughout history. Back then, though, little in Christianity resonated with me. I felt simultaneously that its lofty arguments failed to address the horrible situation I was in, but that my situation was so low that it didn't warrant being considered in the first place. Great systems shouldn't be trifled with small tragedies. Eventually I started experimenting with Taoism because its talk of duality worked very well with my ideas about contrarianism. When I learned that Taoists believe in Chi, I dropped it. Then I started getting into nihilism, which REALLY meshed with my personal philosophies. Nihilists are very enlightened about ego and are staunch realists in argument. Still, I prayed every day. I turned sharply towards Christianity when I realized how to mesh the two ideologies together. Nihilism places a strong emphasis on heroism and, I realized, so does God. Our world is God's artwork. See the painting in this picture and realize what the artist was trying to do. He was trying to capture and portray glory. God did the same, but on an infinitely greater scale.

Nihilism, like all ideologies, manifests itself on an individual level (depression, suicide) and a group level (collectivism, murder).

Catholic
I've always been Catholic. I've thought of leaving before but after talking with friends and watching Rev. Bishop Robert Barron, I'm convinced that the Catholic Church is the one true, holy, apostolic Church.
God so loves mankind he sent his only son to die on the cross.
I like to study other religions, they're really intriguing. I don't really hate anybody but Muslims.
I am socially conservative and I believe in a state-sponsored free-market, i.e. a state should control what foreign companies may do in their market.

Admit to it, you do not believe "nothing", but you believe in nothing and have no basis to do so. Your eternal sleep may as well happen as eternal rainbows and unicorns. No basis to think any of the two needs to happen.