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We're (Italy) one of the poorest-(in a way) countries in the EU. But we don't have enough workers, compare to Germany's high workforce.

Workforce from Turkey, that Germany took in during the 80s. (Millions of Turks)

Which caused the collapse America's car manufactures (causing the rust belt, due to competition) and making Germany back on their feet, now they are the richest.

That also caused Reagan to close the borders so America can keep its Mexicans to fuel the American economy. But it didn't work because American companies has been sending most of their hands-on work to Mexico.

Turks in Germany are not even called "Ausländer" anymore. Equal to Japan's word "gaijin"

Why should we not take in the immigrants? Is America scared of more competition?

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focus.de/finanzen/videos/familienbild-schwarzarbeit-geburtenrate-warum-48-prozent-der-tuerken-in-deutschland-nicht-arbeiten_id_7338076.html
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/295
youtube.com/watch?v=ILn85WKo0Qk
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American rust belt

I dont even bother to give a proper response to this crap Gabriele,
just move to Germany if you like it so much

I am from Bolzano that's why I didn't have to take the language exam in ETH, when I took classes there. I have the most German name. lol

Germany is okay, I look up to it's success. But If we had more immigrants, I believe Italy can have a good cheap workforce.

Whats your youth unemployment rate again?

yeah but take in lots of immigrants , no real downside to it apart from the typical poltard fearmongering

High. But it was the same for both side of Germanys when walls came down. Lots of unemployment.

When they took in a lot of Turks. There was a surplus of workers, meaning businesses can drive down wage as there was a lot of supply for labor. That started up their economy.

As their economy got better, they were able to drive up wage.

Increasing supply is pointless when theres already high unemployment.
Good things retarded Moors like you arent breeding anymore

Business incentive to hire, a surplus of workers causes wages to go down. Applies with any type of assets (from increase of supply).

It's basic Microeconomics (college survey-level class at least).

There's a lot of cheap workers in Mexico, that's why a lot of companies moving in there (so they can be closer to the work)

Mexico's unemployment rate is 3.3%. USA: 4.4%.

Now Mexico is the 13th most productive country in the world. Their GDP per capita is increasing every month.

Take in more immigrants. Allow your country to become a beautiful multi-cultural paradise. GOOD GOY

>I am from Bolzano
You didn't need to clarify it, it was pretty clear you were a leech just by reading the op

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Mexico is ranked 49 in productivity but you retarded white subhuman probably confuses it with GDP . Mexicans work long days which decrease unit labor cost but not really boost productivity.
Unemployment can be decreased drastically by slashing labour regulations and wages. this is the only way to get rid of oversupply, not increasing supply
Learn to price floor above equilibrium price
how old are you (legit question, no insult)

Ah yes and where is Germany now?
>Be Germany
>Get pushed around by roaches
>Do nothing
>Big cities majority non white
>Do nothing
>Get bombed by terrorists and hit by the truck of peace
>Do nothing
>B-But at least I have a good amount of m-money so I guess it's not so bad after all h-haha right guys?

You are fucking pathetic.

Germans arent really rich
theres a huge discrepancy between social classes
average German wealth is very low and wages are also really poor, let alone social protection

Germany did this with the Turks, they've acquired German education and are now behaved.

Same with the new wave of immigrants that came to the US during the industrial era. Italians used to run illegal sex shops, lived in the most unsanitary places and had criminal organizations (NYC and Boston). Italians have been assimilated. Even though Italians used to be the MOST conservative Roman Catholics.

People who protested in Hamburg were mostly native Hamburgers/Germans. Turks have been taught to become less "Islamic".

what are you basing this on?
Also political affiliation?

America was the testing ground to see how well European nations would allow hordes of the third world to flood them. It worked here and now we face genetic extermination. Are you really so stupid that you would allow what happened here to happen in your own homeland? Maybe you Eurofags really are just as retarded as you seem. At least we're bucking back over here. You dildos are trying to outdo our degenerate baby-boomers like it's a fucking competition.

Triggered the 4th most productive country on earth. Sorry :^). This is why you are the economic capital.

The thing is, Mexico have came from 100ish rank to 49 in a YEAR. GDP (PPP) per hour worked

I'm looking at it from the American's perspective. They think people from Muslim countries or any refugee causes "social" harm to a point that we are (EU) getting bashed for taking in people. I think Americans are just mad because they don't want us having cheap labor within our boundaries.

>Germany did this with the Turks, they've acquired German education and are now behaved.
>and are now behaved.

Yes, price floor does produce more surplus of workers. But as I said, I believe that disappears -> due to the businesses of having incentive to moving to a certain country to fetch those workers.

>we want immigrants because we want to be on top because we want the best for our people
>now lets make our people go extinct

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Have you been to Germany before? Crime per population of Turks are low. Lebanese have a murder rate of 23/100.000. Algerians on sexual assault - 36/100.000. Turks are 5/100.000 (murder).

How's your inner cities murder rates like?

>The thing is, Mexico have came from 100ish rank to 49 in a YEAR. GDP (PPP) per hour worked
Thanks foreign investment,
Yeah but how does this fit in your cheap labor increases productivity mindset?

is Belgium the 4th most productive country or what?
if it is its only because of our very strict labor laws. Employers think thrice before hiring someone since its so costly to do so. You wont pay someone 50euro/hour if youre not sure hell bring in so much revenue
I used to be more liberal when i was younger, now im older im shifting more to autoritanism/socialism
oecd.org/belgium/41707374.pdf
read first paragraph please
Muslims barely work at all, and if they do its mostly unskilled labour which i suppose could be automated anyways in the mediumterm future
you seem too much focused on attracting low paid labor.
You will never really be ableto compete with the 3rd world unless you are much more productive
very labor intensive jobs left Europe and will never come back. this is why we should focus on education ,like STEM, law school, economics, invest in infrastructure.

Mixed race humans have a genetic advantage, it's basic social darwinism. Animals do this too to survive throughout thousands of years. Exogamy

You are likely to be related to an individual if you were to have the same race. Which is bad, I hope you know why.

why wouldnt you ethnically cleanse your country?

Germany should get a bit more blacked.

>those stats

wew lad

unz.com/akarlin/immigrant-crime-in-germany/

dw.com/en/more-murder-and-violence-in-germany/a-38567642

My inner cities are dogshit and incredibly violent for the very reason that we allowed the Third World to flock to our land all under the guise of MUH CHEAP LABOR.

And here you are wanting some of that sweet, sweet, MUH CHEAP LABOR all accompanied with a sharp increase in violent crime, standard of living decline, average IQ decline, lowering of purchasing power, genetic replacement, and dissolution of your own culture.

Helpful hint for you: When you post statistics, especially highly contentious ones, post the source and/or methodology or no one will believe you.

Shut your mouth racist pig. Europe is embracing Islam and minorities. In 25 years Europe will be Muslim and its minorities will become majorities.Prove me wrong.

That's retarded you know that right. Most blacks in the us are 20% white. The white population is one of the least inbred of the world. Once you are two generations removed you will not have any genetic problems. Fag go die!

WRONG.

Look it up fag.

Wrong stats are wrong.

Better living standards, wages acquired from their work goes back to their economy -> money multiplier takes it course.

"The GDP (PPP) per hour worked is a measure of the productivity of a country when not taking into account unemployment or hours worked per week. " Belgium is 4th. 60.98 Euros per hour.

Yes, I've read the OECD report. But Germany has a good balance of blue and white collar jobs to a point you don't have to go to a university.

I admire Belgium, having a higher college graduation rate. Lots of white collar jobs that are competitive that my French friends wants to land a job there (yeah sorry). Which I believe your ideals would better fit in your economy.

Italy? Graduating in college is somewhat less common compare to south Netherlands. If Italy had a good mix of blue and white collar jobs, we'd be better off.

No Fagget!!!

>not realizing when a 12 year old that just got out of school that's on a sugar high from mom's cookies and koolaid is trolling you

If you were to have the same genes and there's a disease outbreak.

Would you rather have TWO immunities from 2 or more different ethinicities. Compare to one (White)

That's the only reason why natives in South America were able to survive (and their kids), mixing with the conquistadors.

Same thing if you were do the gene immunity exam on rats.

he probably never took a biology class. not even in high school

focus.de/finanzen/videos/familienbild-schwarzarbeit-geburtenrate-warum-48-prozent-der-tuerken-in-deutschland-nicht-arbeiten_id_7338076.html - 48 percent of turks in Germany are not working

Thanks for making me hate Turks even more senpai

We are not inbreeding and also that asummes somhow that the adaptations will always work in favor of the individual and not at odds. So no Fagget lowering your IQ and therefore increasing risk of disease is not worth muh hypothetical immunity.

Italian college is probably worthless anyways
I met tons of them while on Erasmus and only a small fraction of them could properly speak Englisg. They also failed classes left and right
> south Netherlands
Neck yourself Gayretard

Look at podesta mail about the turks and others. Active population of turks were 56% males in germany in 2011

>Tuga
doesnt that mean youre a grill?

That's why I went to ETH Zurich. lol

Sorry Paris 2.0. Wanna meet and fuck tho? no homo


Do you actually think that making babies with your own race CAUSES you to have less diseases and less immunities. top lel my friend.

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/295

>user demonstrating his keen knowledge of genetics and disease

Yeah, full immunity against diseases you encounter is often better than only having half the genes for immunity, which may provide no protection. FFS man this should be shit they teach you in high school. Are you some kind of melanin enriched charity case they pass because they feel bad for you?

Tugas were ethnic Portuguese / european in the colonial war called by the african. Portuguese called rebels or niggers - turras. I am male.

So mixing with people who will lower your IQ will improve health? Black people have a slew of health issues.

nah man you're just racist who doesn't wanna see smart, beautiful and superior mixed babies. more superior than your sorry ass nibba

isnt it a common way to call portuguese girls no?
show flag pls

>Using IQ and not SAT/ACT scores. Not everyone takes the "IQ test". wake up hunni,

and they have a slew of health issues due to human rights issues that they are imposed on in your inner cities.

While I am racist, I don't believe any of those things to be accurate. Niggers are degenerate subhuman scum that deserve to be cleansed from the Earth, that's all I want.

Go back to africa, OP

flag too rare. can't show you. i'm serious.

59 it now it is 52% | it is normal to call portuguese tuga - all sexs.

>t. Pajeet
>t. Huemonkey
>t. African
>t.Turk
>t.vatican

>Albino picture
>Implying most African people in America are Sub-Saharan.

Honey, if a school is only in side X and not side Y FOR hundreds of years. who do you think will have a upper hand in terms of intellectual development?

USA demographics would be like Brazil, mixed. But let us be real, USA is on easy-mode. USA is the richest country in terms of resources.

youtube.com/watch?v=ILn85WKo0Qk

are you MENA?

Intelligence is 80-85% heritable. So which ever side had the highest average IQ and didn't intentionally kill off their own intelligent people themselves (that would be white people.)

Sexes

? I'm pretty sure the resources that you have and the environment you grew up affects your intelligence.

Let's say I send you over to the country Chad only acquiring Chadian education and I send a Sub-Saharan child to a well funded school private school.

It's 2017 hunni.

Yeah sure, you might think that you have a higher "memory card" in your brain, but from the looks of it, you've filled your brain with ignorance. which is okay. it's your choice.

>Workforce from Turkey, that Germany took in during the 80s.
not just from turkey

wish u came to Italy to make Italian cars :(

Education does not change intelligence. It being a particular year is not an argument sweetheart. Ignorance is a lack of knowledge, how does one fills something with a lack of something? Are you literally retarded? I'd feel bad for picking on a literal retard.

>Retard
>a Nazi

"The word ignorant is an adjective describing a person in the state of being unaware, and is often (incorrectly) used to describe individuals who deliberately ignore or disregard important information or facts."

Doesn't have to be NOTHING, it can be misinformation. Nice try, honey. Sorry, I have no time to talk to someone who wet dreams of exterminating an entire race and or beliefs.

You lost.

>you correctly defined the word but didn't use the exact same wording; checkmate

lmao you really are retarded, I'm sorry kiddo I didn't mean to pick on you

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