Lately there is a systematic change in Russian foreign image, the state funded projection of it anyway. Very often phrases like "orthodox civilization", that is contrasted with the west "Gay-rope" Europe, the western "liberasts" (from pederast and liberal).
I want to ask if any posters here feel part of this phantom "orthodox civilization", and if they are taking the bait, believing Russia to be anything other than a den of corruption and degeneracy.
Why exactly do you criticize one of the last bastions of decency. I'm not saying that russia doens't have a massive problem with corruption and more than enough degenerate elements in society - but let me ask you this:
Have you been to central europe in the last couple of years? Almost everyone here is a fucking apologist for homosex. Almost everyone supports socialism in one way or another. Almost no one has any problem with the mass import of our new german friends. By the time a german is 18 he is likely to have used harder drugs and he definitely smoked weed. Women are stuck in professional positions they don't have any interest nor any qualification for while essentially living whore livestyles.
What exactly sound so bad about the orthodox church compared to this daily hell on earth.
Btw I'm not even religious - but I wish I was and I wish most people were.
I live in Russia.
I became Orthodox last year. All of this is true, there is religious resurrection going on.
Not me. Russia did my country so much damage I can only compared it with the one did by roaches. Maybe even more.
There only good stance is being anti-gay marriage, but so are the muslims. I'm not going to condone muslims just because they are anti-gay marriage, especially when I know they fuck each other in the ass all the time.
>Have you been to central europe in the last couple of years?
I was in Warsaw-Krakow-Berlin-Paris in 2015, and in Kiev-Moscow-St.Petersburg 2016.
The only difference is money. No, really. The only difference is money.
Orthodox church is pretty damn corrupted though. Had a monopoly on tax-free trade of tobacco and alcohol during the 90s.
I meant specifically Russian Orthodox church of course.
We know them too well to fall for anything they say. Russians don't go to church, they're just LARPing as Christians because the Great Leader has told them to.
Yeah?
Do homos parade around sucking dick lollipops in warsaw or krakow?
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Russian is embracing its heritage while americans are falling to degeneracy, failing to socialise with like minded people in the community and not producing any children.
Frankly Russia is one of few countries without total cultural rot.
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There was literally a drag queen inviting tourists to enter a restaurant in Warsaw or Krakow, can't remember. The one with the living statues in the town square, the other didn't have any.
So yes, there are fags. Go to some polish dating site and do research.
State controlled church is nothing but state control. This "Orthodoxy is on the rise in Russia" thing is a lie.
At this point I don't fucking care if this will land me on some list.
I will not fucking tolerate this fucking sodomy. Gas the homos.
>I became Orthodox last year.
How often do you pray?
Do you wear a hat outdoors?
Do you smoke and drink?
Condoms, premarital sex?
Do you fast? Do you do religious diets?
Have you made the journey to the cross and the holy places?
>I meant specifically Russian Orthodox church of course.
Don't worry, ours is worse morally, just not as wealthy so its not as noticeable.
I feel closer to a Russian than a German. I'm talking about groups of course. Why am I taking the bait?
Everything you talk about occurs here too, but West is backing it.
You country became independent from Turks with the help of Russia.
And it was really USSR that damaged your country. And USSR did damage to Russia too, because it wasn't actually ruled by Russians.
All you idiots hate USSR so much, but don't even know how it came to be. Your hate is pointed into the wrong direction. I mean, I don't really have much sympathy for brainwashed Russia, that believe USSR was actually good for them. But they are just useful idiots, not the real cause of problems.
>How often do you pray?
Less often than I should. Prayer is the hardest concept yet for me to master. I was an atheist liberal drug addict for the last decade, so stuff like this is hard for me.
>Do you wear a hat outdoors?
Depends on the weather. Why?
>Do you smoke and drink?
No.
>Condoms, premarital sex?
Absolutely not.
>Do you fast? Do you do religious diets?
Yes and yes.
>Have you made the journey to the cross and the holy places?
No, but plan to.
>separating Russia and USSR like that
In this case, it was the Russian Empire, not Russia, that liberated Romania.
>Depends on the weather. Why?
Christians should, out of respect for God, or some such. Remember my village priest once said so. Always to have your head covered when the roof isn't covering it.
Why is this allowed
I mean seriously, what kind of person can look at this happening and not go "these people are fucked in the head and need psychiatric help"
I don't understand what thought process leads to someone thinking this is the best use of their time and life, that this is what their parents wanted them to be, that this is what's best for them
I am not even religious, even though I was baptized, but I don't need to be religious to see that this is not a healthy behavior
Can someone explain this seriously please? I want to understand what the cause of this is
I have never heard of anything like that in regards to any Christian denomination, to be honest. All I know is that when in the church men should take off their hats but women should cover their hair.
>Be freed from roaches by russians multiple times
>talk shit about them on internet
ayyy pi4
>last bastions of decency
t. Basement dwelling beta faggot
Russia is:
>the European country with the highest AIDS rates
>one of the countries with the higher murder rate in the world
>a country where every second child is aborted (nothing against abortion, but this is a sign of whoredom)
>the country with the lowest male life expectancy in all of Europe
It is piss poor and filled with crime. Germany is a bastion of decency compared to it
Dunno, I am not religious. I am 100% sure I asked the village pope about it though, and thats what he said, and I remembered it as a fun trivia fact.
Ask your local priest.
This is true, but like in any other country, we have both good healthy people and bad degenerate people.
The difference is that in Western countries you can get jailed for not liking sodomites. In Russia you can get jailed for being a sodomite.
>the orthodox church
I can't speak for Bulgaria, Greece or Cyprus but can speak for almost any other orthodox nation that they are shit.
I have known Serb women to be 10x bigger whores than any other Yugoslav population. The thing is, places influenced by western civilization (Vojvodina and Coastal Montenegro) diverge from that trend.
When you pass from Federal (Croat-muslim) Bosnia into the RS towards Croatia, you will hit rock bottom when it comes to poverty and disgusting landscapes
Name tho one orthodox country which is not shit... Come on, Greece is the best they have.
A priest told me that women should cover their heads in a church to show their submissive nature. I don't really get how covering your head shows that, but that's what he said.
This is a false dichotomy, comparing Germany and Russia, and ignoring that in every normal state you don't get jailed for either.
I mean I do understand that.
One must look at a society based on class. Of course that the decent educated better classes are morally more intact and make better choices, but you have an epidemic of the lesser.
Besides, being a homo is not bad as long as you do not spur your sexuality into the open. Frederick the Great was homo, Trajan and Hadrian were homos, Da Vinci was a homo, Alexander the Great was bi, Turning also a homo, etc...
It's only "normal" if the majority is like that. I think only some asian and latino countries don't get people jailed for either.
>One must look at a society based on class
I don't give two shits about material things
>Besides, being a homo is not bad
It is, sodomites will literally burn in the lake of fire for all eternity without end
You dont get jailed anywhere for saying: "I hate homos", you do get jailed and maybe even should get jailed for calling for their mass murder and assaulting em.
People must be measured by deeds. A homo who is just gay and decent is okay, and calling for his murder does show how much a lowlife you are, but a half naked drag Queen on the streets at noon should be hated and persecuted.
The answer is not in the extremes but in the middle
I'm not sure if Hamburg is your worst city but there is more crime there now than in Saint Petersburg
>believing in nonsensical fairy tales
So, riddle me this, if God is all knowing, why does hell exist? An all knowing God knows every choice you will make before you do them, since he is omnipresent and all knowing. He exists in all futures at once. So, your life is futile, you were judged even before the earth was created.
The jail punishment for homos was kind of a theoretical thing unless they started showing up in normal peoples areas. If you don't have jail sentence for homos, you'll see some park or whatever turn into a homo meetup area and it will be nonstop faggot orgy there.
The point of jail sentence is that the cops have something on the homos if they get out of line, it's not like it makes sense to spend a lot of police time discovering homos if they manage to stay out of sight.
>maybe even should get jailed for calling for their mass murder and assaulting em.
That's true in Russia as well, unfortunately. I believe of course that all sodomites must be genocided, along with anyone who ever defended them in any capacity or ever approved of them.
>You dont get jailed anywhere for saying: "I hate homos"
what is UK
*tips fedora*
It's what happens when you reduce morality to the Golden Rule. It becomes impossible for anyone to assert even the most modest standards of behavior. All standards are seen as totalitarian, and regressive.
I mean this is what we used to do when Western countries were still sane on the subject.
Well no one would jail a homo in Russia if he/she/whatever doesn't go out of their way to show the world just how homo they are. The law specifically forbids "pro-gay propaganda", which pretty much encompasses gay parades and "gay pride" events.
most of the putin bots larp as brits or burgers ,formulating ''based'' russia image .In the end only new fag redditors fall for propaganda .
In all honesty the reality doesn't concern me. The fact that some countries are using tradition and religion and purity for political purposes, just the pretence and the propaganda alone, that alone is encouraging. Their sincerity is comparatively irrelevant.
I just think that Abrahamic religions violate the nature of God, so nice try on the fedora.
Further more, your chirst teaches that all are equal in him, so, if that sodomite has accepted chirst, you are not to judge him. After all, let he who is without sin cast the first stone. What makes your sins so better than the sodomites?
Russia probably has massive problems with corruption and unreported crime but
Hamburg is a leftist shithole so wadaya know
I don't see the problem. Eastern and Western Europeans have influenced each other from the beginning of recorded history.
Now the Easterners are more traditional than us and we are influenced more by them than the other way around so this degeneracy is bound to end at some point.
But the tables may change again in the future.
I see it very strongly here with Germans (I'm half German/Slavic) how they are neither fully Western nor Eastern in their mentality.
In fact Germans are pretty much repulsed by proto Western mentality like Anglos or proto Eastern mentality like Russians.
>Their sincerity is comparatively irrelevant.
Yeah and soon as they stop promoting it, people are gonna go back to degenerate and backwards ways.
If you support them despite knowing they are using you you are a fucking tool.
>muh god doesn't make sense as a rational actor
That's because god is not a literal actor
Learn what a metaphor is, then analyze the bible instead of reading it at the surface level and going "God's stupid lmao"
thank god that for balance sake we always have rabidly hysterical batlshits crawling out of the woodwork and foaming ther mouths whenever the mere word 'russia' is mentioned
Wow, Ivan looks like you could use a visit of the tolerance police
You should read a bit more about what the purpose of the Church was in the past to understand why they are "wealthy".
The Church acted as a kind of bank in society. Farmers would all deliver part of their income to Church who would in turn store it and redistribute it to develop the country or to help those in need.
You hate them for taking on this function historically? Well, our societies tried to outsource this function to jews.
I think we can all agree that this didn't work out so well.
The Church btw never claimed to be run by saints, that's especially true for the Orthodox Church.
The question is did it work more towards helping the people to offset the few who are always going to abuse the system? I'd say in most cases it was a net positive influence.
Mate, the church here launders money, since donations are tax free. They are a literal mafia, and very much a for-profit organization.
>redistribute it to develop the country or to help those in need
Weren't they mostly hoarding it instead?
Historically they did redistribute some money, because they gave away food, shelter and clothes.
They also made alcohol and honey and other more technical and skillful labor, in some places monks were also the leading architects.
The thing he talks about partially existed, its not made up. But today its nothing like that.
>muh priest said this
>muh priest said that
Don't you own Bibles?
'But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.' 1 Corinthians 5
What do Balts want from you?
They received independence without having to even fight the Russians, which they realistically couldn't have done.
Do they want gibs from Russia like they received in the past or what else?
I mean if Russia didn't want to have these nations exist they wouldn't have let them go.
Same is true for Finland and Fins don't seem to feel threatened in general by Russia.
How does it feel to be retarded AND live in the center of degeneracy? Kraushit
How are they using me? Rather I'm using them. I like you Estonia, but I feel you might have a dog in this fight.
*1 Corinthians 11:5, sorry.
Yeah, the Church is in search of a purpose since the economies dramatically changed in the last decades.
And of course Communism and the collapse of society created lots of abusers and cheaters so it's not surprising that there are more of those in the Church today then say 100 years ago.
We will see how all of this will play out in the future. But it's right to point out abuse and criminality.
feels bad man
I've been recently to some places in Vienna where I'm rarely and I found out that these areas are now fully in control of blacks.
No one except for black males dare go there. Not cool.
> Further more, your chirst teaches that all are equal in him, so, if that sodomite has accepted chirst, you are not to judge him
If a sodomite has accepted Christ he stops being a sodomite. You can't have it both ways. You either repent of your sins or you're not right with God. And yes, of course I would prefer that all the faggots stopped their perversions and lived a good life. But the overwhelming majority of them are incapable of that.
>>Lietuvos vėliava
lol
Thanks, mr. protestant. Of course I read my Bible and know all that.
Well, I guess it is really hard to do that. I know there are some gay people who try hard and suppress their sexuality.
But it's not wrong to call out this behaviour as morally wrong. We still shouldn't harm them unless they do harm us.
We are not Muslims.
Finland doesn't have cancerous Soviet mentality Russians. There's a Russian minority from imperial times but they're ok because commie Russians were killed or kicked out after Reds lost Civil War.
Irrelevant and cling to any relevance, like most shit tier flags here. And yes flag related
What would be the point of free will given by him, if there's no punishment/reward of your actions?
Mights as well go completely animalistic or God would determine everything that happens to you/what you choose. If nothing matters, then why feel guilty over murder, rapes etc.
But what should Russia do about them? All they can do is talk to Balts to not exclude Russians from society and jobs there. It's not their land anymore.
Are Balts who live in Russia abused or something? I doubt it.
Maybe Balts could offer them money or make an agreement with Russia to bankroll most costs of a resettlement.
Dude, when we say Balts jump, Balts will jump. So STFU.
You cannot defend your nation, Germans are now your boss and you can happy that we treat you well and as equals.
If you fuck with our trade and economic goals this may change dramatically in the future.
The thing with us is that we are fair to everyone, but when we decide to get rid of a people we do so mercilessly.
There were countless people who were celibate all their lives. It's not really that hard to suppress your sexual urges.
> We still shouldn't harm them unless they do harm us.
> We are not Muslims.
It all starts with "let's not execute criminals like we should" and then you suddenly end up with anti-"homophobia" laws.
Nothing. The Russians should do what they did here after 1918, learn the language, get jobs and not demand that the whole nation learns Russian just so that Russian minority can fit in.
Well at least Russia is not indoctrinating it's children with gender theory, they don't have gay parades, tranny surgery, tranny bathrooms, etc
That on itself is a relief
Irrelevant and cling to any relevance, like most shit tier flags here. And yes flag related
I was talking about the Lithuanian flag Hans. And whatever helps you sleep at night. I've been to Vienna a few times, the amount of tanned austrians is high. Say, how's your sisters vagina after being pounded by Ahmed on the daily?
mate its the butthurt belt we're talking about here. do you know why its called that?
I'm not sure about that, but I believe homosexuals weren't executed in Christian societies.
Punished in some way yes.
But I understand the point you are making, there is a slippery slope here.
But only if any law may be changed by man to the point where it contradicts the in some fundamental way Christianity.
Though I wouldn't want to live in a theocracy either, hard to say what's the right way do deal with it.
We must look to ourselves brother.
christiannews.net
Honestly, I have no idea what to think of my country's current political climate. I'm authoritarian as fuck so I don't whine about "muh freedumbs" being suppressed by evil Putin, but at the same time I know that Putin isn't "muh saviour of the hwhite race". At least he doesn't let homos ruin our society, but he's still corrupt as fuck. Don't forget we also have anti-holohoax denial laws and hate speech laws here. I really don't know. I guess he's the lesser evil.
Well I must admit that I speak of homo genocide with irony. I perfectly understand that this won't happen any time soon. I think that our country has the optimal stance on faggots at the time: "don't show your filth openly and we won't give a shit about you".
I fully agree with that. Heterosexuals don't go running around in parades with strap on dildos either.
Although there are lots of degenerates everywhere these days.
Which is imo the best stance, or at least the most realistically possible.
At least Russia liberated you from the Roaches.
Tel aviv is same
Damnnn Russia lets make a orthdox onion lets take Knifs sowords You give me knife i give You my knife and lets morder them all in fucking hour they all gona be dead no one even gona care we kiled them since most of russian are with us even Putin will say good job orthdxox brothers You saved the day
Lets do this ??
For Konstantynopol for konstantin for agia Sofia and agios teos isus hristos
Lets remuve them all sick Fuck germans in the head
>believing Russia to be anything other than a den of corruption and degeneracy.
>believing the European Union to be anything other than a den of corruption and degeneracy.
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Russia is a toxic shithole run by a morality-LARPing manlet who desperately wants to not get his shit kicked in before he cements some useless place in history. In the meantime, he's making Europe rebuild its military and may accidentally start a nuclear war with his passive-aggressive hybrid war shit that frankly would be a fucking godsend to everyone but Russia, China, Europe and 'Murica. Russians won't care. If they come up with a decent business, it gets stolen. If they manage to escape that fate, they end up paying protection. Even f they leave, they run the risk of murder as soon as they cut off the cabinet boys. The orthodoxy meme is a fallback position as their favorite sponsored pseudo-states get too shit-poor to live and things crack along the edges.
I can see that pussy getting the church to boost his ill-conceived wars when they verge on starting a bigger war (which will happen when he is close to death because he's a selfish, hateful drunk of a fucking fag). But you know, maybe the Patriarch of Greece needs the seat back... after the smouldering remains of Moscow, Constantinople and etc. fail to survive.
Serious, fuck Putin's Russia. It's a suicide pact with that manlet's ego and greed.
You must go back, Piotr Kakhgoblinoff.
mind translating komrad?
It says "we're proud of our country and foreigners are just jelly".
LOL... footsoldier meatshield, you will shiver at the Russian Army's rampant homo degeneracy.
I served in the military. 1 year as mandatory (conscription it's called I guess?), 1 year on contract. There were no homos there.
Fuck You romania we never need your Help and never will You belong to gayropa so stay there dont even Shake our hands we will cut them off You tretor and your country is on my dick just like your pepole !!!!
We russians remember it we was the one thet helpd You and volga tatars Bulgaria with Turks not your gayropa
Time has change now but the fucking hate of russians for romanians gayropa will never go way it only will grow more and more till You nuke us and we nuke You
You Where with hitler in ww2 never forget it you gipsy scum You kiled polish ukrainian hungarian white askenazi brothers they was fake jews in the border btwean romania and Ukraina poland You kilked my grandmother my grandfathr
Fuck You romania if i ever see your gipsy pepole in Russia i will buly your pepole so bad thet your eyes will be closed for ever for the east land
Dont Fuck with us dont talk with us dont Shake hands with us there us no respect btwean romanians and russian east slavs and never will be if You see us coming just run bcouz if i find You nothing will Help You my Pay back is drive from anger i will rip your heads off
I Spit on your pepole gipsy flag
You burst into tears of rage as your fat fingers stammer-typed that out between sobs, didn't you, Kikeanoff?
You've already shown your flag. Why are you hiding it now Giorgi?