Future EMP strike above the USA

North Korea's ICBM's don't have to be too accurate:

Even an EMP attack from a single 10-kiloton nuclear weapon -- of the type now in North Korea's arsenal -- could cause cascading failures which could black out the U.S. Eastern Grid for months or years, and devastate the civilian economy. An EMP, detonated at an altitude above 30-70 kilometers, could be delivered by a short-range missile fired off a freighter, hundreds of kilometers off U.S. shores.

The result would be no communications, no transportation, no fuel, no food, and no water for a decade or more. That would be true for at least the entire eastern half of the United States, where most of the population lives. National Geographic has described it as an "Electronic Armageddon.

gatestoneinstitute.org/7214/electro-magnetic-pulse-emp

>nuclear weapon

SAGE

Why do you jungle monkey want to sage it?

Cool, except that none of that - absolutely none of it - is true.

Why don't you stick to lying about global warming and evolution, kid?

Because nukes are a hoax, fins are as bad as leafs

I used to work in the manufacture of electrical distribution equipment. acres upon acre of transformers, regulators, reclosers etc sitting unused. I don't think it would take as long as people think to get the grid going again. Its just a matter of cost and motivation. Given an act of war I imagine it would be up sooner than a cat 4/5 hurricane because there would be next to zero physical damage or debris.

>U.S. Eastern Grid
They'd be lucky to reach the west coast.

this. i can't believe other countries actually buy into the propaganda lmao

After the red pill revolution starts getting into swing they're going to have to shut us down one way or another. OP's post is probably the best way to do it and then while it's being "fixed" we'll all be reliant on Newspapers and later television for our "news" and welcome the return of normality by our saviors.

part of the country would be without power for less than a day. ohh no. whatever would we do. im sure the government would collapse and we would descend into anarchy. ohh wait, large sections of the US power grid have gone out in the past and nothing came of it.

It is not only power grid will be taken out. It is about pretty much everything using electronics.

There are tens of thousands of these devices scattered around the globe and devastation has been averted by accident several times. The question is not if, but when. When western civilization falls, who will get their hands on the nukes? Surely you do not think Jamal or Abdul have the same morals as we do.

But...that's completely false.

Do you really believe this stuff, or are you just fishing for replies? Sad either way.

Now NK just need to find a way of disabling thousands of incoming icbms from submarines not affected.

>whatever would we do
If the NYC blackout of '77 is any indication then there would be massive chimpouts in every major city (nigger breeding grounds)

Explains why america is shitting their pants right now

>t. played call of duty 2 once

North korea plz do it

So would this theoretical emp take our pacemakers or other medical implants?

Why the fuck would they Strike the Eastern US? They'll be coming from the West. Fuck California.

nukehoax -dubay

> (OP)
>Cool, except that none of that - absolutely none of it - is true.
>Why don't you stick to lying about global warming and evolution, kid?

You should read One Second After.

Sage? more like Faraday cage

That's all well and good, but good luck chucking a nuclear weapon the size of a semi truck towards the excited states on their current missile platforms.

What's your evidence that it is false?

In that event It would probably be like South Africa who destroyed or disarmed their nukes (supposedly) when the nogs took over.

They come from the north actually. Its shorter.

>Faraday cage

That's the reason to start the tinfoil era

If you lauch pretty dumb missile from sub near coast and detonate it above the usa, there is pretty a good change you won't be found. Ever.

We need to last long enough for new battery tech. We could then have laser defense since we would have enough mobile power for that shit.

Actual working lasers connected to good radar basically ends all air power over our territory. The air force would become purely defensive and for bombing shitty countries. Nukes could actually be reliably stopped.

The emp might still be a problem but we could put lasers on satellites or something.

>probably be like
Fact is, this cannot be guaranteed. If only a single nuke gets in the hands of the fifth column, this will give them an unacceptable amount of power and leverage. This alone should be incentive enough for world powers to stop the hostile takeover that is happening right now.

>put laz0rs everywhere
It's like I'm in 2008 Sup Forums. Shoop-da-whoop!

Calm down Ronald regan

>muh EMP

Not in North Koreas forseeable future. In order to get a viable spread of an EMP, you need 5MT like the Soviets had with FOBS, not this bullshit 10kt nonsense.

So sick of fearmongering about nukes and having no concept of what they are or what they can do and instead using hollyjew bullshit.

>acres upon acre of transformers, regulators, reclosers etc sitting unused.
An emp would render those unusable

>They come from the north actually. Its shorter.

Not for North Korea. US/Soviet strikes went over the pole because of location of missile fields in the USSR and retaliatory strike necessity.

Megaton yield is not required. Small fission with u-238 tamper will produce greater EMP effect.

Not gonna lie, former Best Korea fan here. This is fucking hilarious watching diplomatic intervention crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.

Even by lib as fuck art major brother is sure we are going to bomb them to shit any day now.

They won't risk being detected near Alaska or off the coast of Canada.

They'll come from the West and strike California which is both highly populated and has the highest source of income in the country.

>short-range missile fired off a freighter, hundreds of kilometers off U.S. shores.

One problem with this.
Anyone have a stealth freighter capable of getting within hundreds of km off U.S. shores? The combination of the Jananese, South Korean, and especially American navy would know you're there.

How about sub?

>there is pretty a good change you won't be found

Only the launch platform. You can ascertain the manufacture location of nuclear device by it the composition of its fallout. NEST is specifically meant to do this as one of their first missions and have a result within 30 mins to an hour after detonation.

>batteries

Batteries have nothing to do with lasers. Power generation has never been an issue for laser weaponry or railguns.

>device by it the composition of its fallout.

That's true only if the material is from known sources. I'm not sure the IAEA register covers everything?

Hardtack, Argus, Dominic and Project K disagree.

>Better put your kids in boy scouts, faggots

Gonna need them survival skills. Get the fuck out of the cities and take up some arms. l2hunt/grow food

*it won't be so easy, if the device was detonated at 300km. Fission peoducts can be found, but much later and far away.

>Hardtack

EMP results were not even gathered in Hardtack?

Most US military equipment is properly shielded now. not to mention a EMP Strike over the US would do fuck all to disrupt the military response from US bases in the pacific

A world without electricity. Oh no.

USAF still retains a number of modified B-52s for atmospheric collection. It's how they intended on dealing with it back in the 80s for verification purposes.

They were observed which is what led to the other tests.

>Most US military equipment is properly shielded now.

Been that way for a long time really.

Yeah, we've got bases and task forces everywhere.
NK would be signing their death warrant.
Followed by a brand new WPA-style infrastructure project.
Now that I think about it, they should just aim for those secessionist in the illegals state.

Oh look, it's that magical EMP weapon again that somehow does more damage the further away you detonate it.

>They were observed which is what led to the other tests.

Like fucking up hawai electrical grid later by accident, when using sub-megaton device hundreds of miles away.

And that happened before semiconductors, which are extremely vulnerable to EMP.

good luck finding a Nork sub that can successfully carry an ICBM, leave port with it, and make it to an appropriate launching distance without breaking down and/or being tracked by every RIMPAC navy

>not to mention a EMP Strike over the US would do fuck all to disrupt the military response from US bases in the pacific
Yet it would cause massive chaos in the US. An EMP destroys the electronics in reach completely, it's not like something you could easily fix within hours. Just to rebuild the entire power grid, you'd take months, not to mention the stock crashes resulting from every major company in reach being crippled (or what an EMP over New York would cause for global market crashes).
Just think of how many people would die, how much looting would occure. Food supply within those regions would decrease extremely fast without refrigeration, violence would break out.

Tl;dr: The whole civilian complexe has become extremely reliant on electronics and destroying it would basically destroy society as we know it.

>Like fucking up hawai electrical grid later by accident,

If knocking out new street lights (yet strangely not the homes in the neighborhood due to being on a separate circuit) and interfering with microwave communications for a few hours is "fucking up" an electrical grid, then yes. That's what happened.

>using sub-megaton device

Starfish Prime was between 1.4 and 1.45 megatons, which was only slightly off from its design yield (varying sources will state either 1.4 or 1.5MT)

Implying that the Boeing X37-B hasn't plucked that satellite right out of orbit.

>US wants a dialogue with N. Korea
>US got up in China's shit over only wanting to start a dialogue between US and N. Korea

I think that article is wrong.

Much of peoples water is gravity fed.

Just build a giant Faraday cage around your house. Problem solved!

>read
You lost them there

yep

>An EMP destroys the electronics in reach completely
This isn't how transistors work. And it isn't how capacitors work, either.

>Just to rebuild the entire power grid, you'd take months
More like a month at most.

Wahhhh, all you kids won't be able to browse Facebook and order stuff off Amazon now, boo fuckin hoo.