Do any of you actually believe that the Holocaust never happened? Or that it was embellished?
I find it hard to believe, because there are so many accounts of people who survived the camps who tell first-hand stories of its veracity.
Can you provide any proof of the conspiracy?
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This. There's a lot he haven't been taught about it. And most of the stuff we learned doesn't add up.
>the Holocaust never happened
It's not real in my mind.
There has been exactly zero autopsies of a single gassed person in Nazi occupied Germany.
There is exactly zero scientific documents of even a single gas chamber in all of Nazi occupied German.
It happened, but the way it was enacted doesn't always add up.
For example, it's a fact that Van Braun used slave labor to build his V-2 rockets. A lot more people died building them than the rockets actually killed.
The method of killing has enough questions to be doubted. And the fact that only U.N. approved people are allowed to see the records is suspicious.
here's a random red pill
There were no gassings. There was no systematic plan to kill.
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1.5mil total
300,000 jews
Nazi plan was to repatriate and "fix" Jews after the war as another brilliant achievement.
Remember, they had little expectation of UK or USA getiing involved.
Most deaths were indirectly caused by allied strategic bombing, but the allies were right to bomb, war is hell.
That's what i believe.
To be honest, as much as I hate the jews and wish for another Holocaust, I think it did happen.
There are way too many accounts and stories of it from the Allied and Axis side about the killings and mass shootings of jews across Europe.
Hitler's masterplan was to kill so many jews under the pope's nose that the pope would then come out in protest against it and Hitler wanted to raid the Vaitcan and arrest the pope, ending Catholicism in the process as well.
Culling jews was supposed to be just step 1 of the uncuckening.
There was much more fun stuff Hitler had planned.
That's why I think the Holocaust happened. Because it wasn't even Hitler's final form.
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Have you ever heard of the havara agreement?
I mentioned some article written by a non U.N. member who finally was given access to the Nazi records. Do you recall the link?
Yeah m8. I'm sure there were different plans and things got more heated as time was running out for Hitler.
It doesn't change the possibility of the Holocaust happening, imo.
Holocaust happened and it was real.
Most of the holocaust denying resolves around net picking, cherry picking, denying any evidence that indicates it happened and blatant lying.
Holocaust denying exists only to make national socialism acceptable again.
Deniers are 99,9% extreme right-wing.
If holocaust didn't happen, then explain why were there ~16,5 million Jews in 1939 and ~11 million Jews in 1945 worldwide.
Wrong. HCN was found in gas chambers.
Bombing didn't cause a significant amount of deaths as your fellow (((right-wingers))) claim.
Germans repaired railways very, very fast and the capacity of the German railways was huge.
Nobody denies that Jews were interned into camps and that those Jews were killed, sometimes by german officers. But the number that were killed vs starved from lack of supplies is the contention.
It doesn't matter whether it happened. What matters is that GERMANY HAD TO DENY, DENY, DENY!
Call it Bolshevik/Ally propaganda, etc, etc.
If you make a nation, a continent, a race feel massive collective guilt, you have complete power over them.
Guilt = control. Ask ANY woman.
gys jew
This is now a lolocaust red pill thread.
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The idea that the Great German need for efficiency would do any of the insane proposed illogical inefficient things to kill jews is ridiculous
forced labour camps, transportation between forced labour camps, starvation and indiscriminate slaughter of a million or more jews by Germans and then Russians as they advanced west with rifles is more believable
Seriously what is wrong with that dog?
>~16,5 million Jews in 1939 and ~11 million Jews in 1945 worldwide
Sauce on that? One that isn't from a Jewish organization if possible.
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Do you have a version not for ants?
>so many accounts of people who survived the camps
How do you know it was real in the world and not just in their imagination?
youtube.com
How were they able to kill millions in a "gas chamber" that was said to have been converted to an air raid shelter and then reconstructed by the Soviets while being able to cremate millions with 6 ovens and not enough coal while also having no mass graves or even mass amounts of bone fragment cremains?
can we start one in US directed to blacks and LGBT? Would make a nice purge
I own this book and its information has been used in Holocaust museums. Ive personally seen its use in the museum in DC.
There were numerous gas chambers.
Auschwitz had Krema I (the one that was converted), Krema II, III, IV and V.
Krema VI was also being built.
They all had way larger capacities than Krema I and they were destroyed by Germans because of Soviets.
HCN was found on their walls.
World Almanac, but don't fall for the ~15 million in 1948 because the edition doesn't show the statistics of it's year.
Google what Nietzsche says about anti-semites.
Love and hate make you do illogical things. Nazis had both.
This goes for almost every thread in the catalog. These people just keep posting and posting this inane drivel. Why tho? Are they molding a fake consensus? Trolling? This place is called politically incorrect and people come here and blast PC jewish garbage all day every day.
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>I find it hard to believe, because there are so many accounts of people who survived the camps who tell first-hand stories of its veracity.
>Can you provide any proof of the conspiracy?
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>don't fall for the ~15 million in 1948 because the edition doesn't show the statistics of it's year
What? What year does it show the statistics for? I should trust a source that is admittedly wrong by the person who quotes it?
It never happened. Just another Jewish trick so braindead faggots continue to believe Jews are oppressed and to justify the existence of Israel.
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>HCN found on walls
No there wasn't you lying kike. There are small delousing chambers with the whole zyklon canister opening delivery device still hooked up but the chambers had remnants of walls and the Soviets made openings in the ceilings where they said they dropped the pellets down. Which is it, shower head deliveries or pellets dropping down? God you fucking morons can't even get your stories straight.
It's not wrong... it's how the world almanac works, check the 1949 edition.
I don't believe the Holocaust happened.
The jews are alive, prosperous and have their own ethnostate.
My eyes opened when I found out that there were both Zionists and Nazis who worked together to create an ethnostate for jews outside of the borders of Europe.
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>Using an actual jidf image
How about you kikes address the images I posted? I'm not even done with the book yet, there is loads of garbage.
Yes, they did.
the pic has been debnked already burger.
thats not a partizan.
Do you know how numbers work? You just proved yourself wrong you fucking moron.
Is there some SS memories about that or not? There is a lot of books writtenn by jews but i never heard of something else
It never happened. The aerial footage of Auschwitz showed it was all a fucking hoax. The camp was 90% barracks and there was no room to gas a million jews and no place to bury them
>The found it in the walls!
Trace amounts compared to an actual gas chamber, as your own graphic shows. Way to debunk your own argument Shlomo.
At the start of the war, there were 4.5 million jews in the areas that came to be controlled by Nazis.
If none of them fled during the war they would still have needed to bus some in.
I didn't. Read the whole reports and you'll understand why it's like this.
I mean it's easy to deny the holocaust when you're a retarded nigger like you who didn't even bother first checking the evidence WHY the holocaust happened, but rather learned from the (((redpill images))).
That's how you retards are made.
A lot of people had their testicles crushed in trials to extract information and get confessions. Not sure they wanted to risk that.
Auchwitz was krematorium.
Sorry pal.
Take a look at it's design.
This one is my favorite, from the good old days.
Because they were destroyed and exposed to weather.
Also the concentration used in gas chambers was waayyyyyyyyy lower than in delousing chambers and delousing chambers worked for hours whereas gas chambers 20-30 minutes and then were extensively cleaned, even by water from body fluids.
The wooden doors opened inward.
I've been and seen it myself on multiple occasions.
Rudolf Hoess, the commandant of Auschwitz, admitted to a concentration camp that never existed.
They were tortured for "confessions" for sure.
Nobody got their testicles crushed, that's a lie.
They were tortured though.
Gas chambers are in the Kremas YOU COMPLETE retard.
I swear to god that looks like a zombie.
The fastest furnace in the world burns dead human in 30 minutes.
Nazis back in 1942 burned jews withing 6 minutes.
The technology DAAAMMMM SON.
It probably is. Niggers created the zombie myth.
wait what the fuck
the pictures to the left looks obviously photoshopped, show me it in another context.
The wikipedia links got the redpill right in me tho
Let's just do the math
>Nazis back in 1942 burned jews withing 6 minutes.
Oh look another retard who thinks 6 million were gassed and cremated.
There were so many ways they were killing them, shootings, gas chambers (CO and Zyklon B), slave labor, starvation etc.
I simply don't trust UN because I know what it is.
And since you post as it, i take everything you say as a LIE, which in fact, tends to be correct ,since it's organisation built upon one BIG LIE.
So go back. Take a nap.
>There was no systematic plan to kill.
Other than the Nazi's documentation outlining the system, of course.
>gets completely destroyed in an argument
>blames on flag
Good job retard.
I used to wonder, but after krauts cheered as they government told them, when their country invited 1 million 3d world shithole dwellers. I realized germ-mans will do anything whatever their government tells them. Kill 6 million jews? No problem.
6,000,000 killed in 5 years. We know it's not a full five but we'll go with it. So 6,000,000people/1,825days = 3,288 a day. Every day. For five years straight.........
First of, I did not state any message about them not being killed.
But stories and books with this context make it definitely lie.
And you are making assumptions, costly in fact.
The only moron is person who makes blind assumptions as to what I state and not.
I believed it until about two years ago when I started reading this mengele book my jewish friend gave me. Then I remembered what I saw in the Holocaust museum and found videos of the allies showing German citizens shrunken heads and lamps (that we are told were just unfortunate rumors). Then I went to Auschwitz while in Germany and watched David Cole interview tour guides back in the 90s when you were allowed to see more and go up on roof etc. Then I learned about David Irving and the others. Funny you are so fucking dumb that you don't even realize that the chair you're sitting on could have that amount of lethal material in it yet you say it's proof. You also are apparently fine with jewish run soviets "rebuilding" the gas chamber "as it was" and people say it was original and there are no documents showing its original. None of you make any fucking sense and the only thing you have going for you is emotional bullshit.
The only person getting destroyed is your mom right now.
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Zyklon B is a fucking pesticide, it takes a large amount of spray to kill a single flea.
If they were destroyed (just those rooms? not the ones connected to them or nearby? convenient) and no German records show the rooms being used for that purpose, then why on earth would you possibly try to use that graphic above to prove your point? The fact of the matter is Jews were never moved into camps for the express purpose of killing them. If that was the case there shouldn't BE survivors. Hell, there shouldn't even be camps, just round them up onto the transport trains and kill them there. Why would you go out of your way to house, clothe, feed, and provide medical care for people you ultimately want to exterminate? The very IDEA of the holocaust is absurd.
7-10 million Soviets died in 1932-1933.
Don't see how 6 million isn't possible in even a longer period.
>coming from a person who said everything coming from me is a lie just because of the flag I have
>MFW some summerfag asks me to prove that zog western states would conspire to fake massive atrocities in order to justify a massive war to dispose of an economic threat to global jewry.
Forgot pic
Were the soviets systematically murdered during a war on two fronts?
So... You're wrong by these numbers, man.
Might want to check which version of the image you post before clicking that "post" button.
Just a heads up, The edited version is not the next image in the folder (like it normally would be), but very far down instead because the naming conventions weren't the same across the board for editors. A lot were fixed, but media had already published most so it wouldn't be prudent to make changes anymore to those. They rushed the whole gig. Blame ADL.
Also can you give me specifics with links on how the holocaust happened?
I'll be honest here. I'm on the fence. I see nothing but conjecture from both sides. Every ridiculous question that is made, you come up with an equally ridiculous answer than can easily be dismissed due to the source or the fact that it is truly just conjecture.
Here's the problem. People believe that this was a fabrication. If you think for a second that such a fabrication wouldn't have fabricated evidence after the fact then you're fooling only yourself. That being said, it doesn't prove it didn't happen either.
But there sure are a lot of questions, and asking them is illegal in some parts of the world. THAT is why I'm on the fence.
It's worth noting that those same soviets died from Stalins purges and starvation as well as forced labor (Read to death) and not some death camp only. The only deaths from the Soviet Gulags were about 600K and that was over the period of like 20 years.
More died from communist policies than directed killing.
That should tell you something about the flaw in your argument.
The whole Kremas were destroyed...
And you're confusing the slave labor and the ones destined for extermination.
NOT EVERY JEW WAS TO BE EXTERMINATED DURING THE WAR GET THAT IN YOUR HEADS.
It usually went like this, 60% were picked for extermination, the ones that can't work (children, old, majority of women and some men) whereas the other percentage was picked for slave labor (majority men).
The slave labor was the one that was housed, clothed, fed.
Another holocaust denier BTFOd.
So basically you came up with no proof why you believe your bullshit.
"jewish run soviets"
>muh judeo-bolshevism
Please google what Nietzsche says about retarded anti-semites such as yourself.
Sup Forums users typically post ms paint info charts and talk about how swimming pools disprove the holocaust. while those things are childish, i do suggest reading into the engineering/design of these "death camps" in order to realize that the estimated numbers are not only false, but that the entire genocide itself is a lie. David Irving and Ernst Zundel have also covered this topic in great detail if you want specific sources.
So it wasn't in the span of one year that 10 million died?
I agree with this American.
Just because you make something sound smart, doesn't mean you are smart. Whether Jews were killed due to labor and starvation makes big difference from other context.
I posted notes from the mengele book as a source that said shootings were rare. Do you even read? Yes testicles were crushed even a judge admitted it. You'll have to find the source used for some shitty sites to get to the actual real ones, I believe theres also one on Yale law.edu. I'm a worthless phone poster atm so I don't want to find it.
Also it wasn't exposed to the elements. The ceiling was intact and even the sides had earth built up since it was used as an air raid shelter. The ceiling holes were opened up by soviets and then the chimney was added, not even attached. Seriously just watch the David Cole video. He's a jew and even admits it's lied about. I think hes since been viciously attacked by the Holocaust industry.
also the claim was never that 6 million jews were gassed, just killed through some intentional means. don't twist (((their))) lies in ways that are obviously false if you want to look at this situation objectively.
What happened to the bodies that weren't cremated, then? They just vanished? Because they sure as fuck weren't found