Question about Over-population

A brief hypothetical dialogue on Leftist support for third-world invasion and also environmentalism:

Leftist: The world is over-populated, we're using up all of the earth's resources, we need to have fewer babies!
I: Most of the babies are born in Asia and Africa, why don't we support reducing the birth-rate there?
L: People in the West use much more water, land, electricity, etc with our houses and cars and computers than people in the third world.
I: Does that mean anyone who lives in a Western country places a greater strain on the planet?
L: Yes.
I: And people in the West who have lots of children do the greatest environmental damage?
L: Yes.
I: And the people with the highest birthrate are in Africa and Asia.
L: Yes, but they don't use up as much by way of resources.
I: So why are bringing them here? Won't they do a lot more environmental damage once they have houses and cars and electricity 24/7?

We have the resources to keep an even bigger population

The problem is, if we use all our resources to maintain and keep a growing population, we are not going to have resources to progress to somewhere else, we are going to stagnate in our own number.

That's not the argument.
Leftists tell us that in white countries we have to have fewer children to save the environment, but they're OK with niggers having boatloads of children.

They're incoherent and inconsistent, there's no much else to say about their double thinking

If I had the skills I'd love to make a meme out of it.

over population of jews, yes

for each jew we remove, we could probably have 100 strong, working, good people

Asia has growing economy with huge needs of resources, saying that asians aren't involved is fucking stupid.You forgot Indians, those fuckers fuck like rats and just look how huge their population is, also they have hugely growing economic with resources required. Western countries are the least involved in over population even with immigrants.

That's my point!

everything that "depends" on oil is actually shifted by the petroleum industry so that would be the case to give examples plastic bags instead of paper bags.

now you can make paper out of almost all biomass.

secondly we don't need oil, why? because you can run a car on ethanol real easy along other fuels. what is ethanol? its just alcohol so basically ferment literally anything growing from inedible cornstalks to algae, if it makes alcohol you can run a car.

this was shot down by some basic gestalt on food production which was an obvious lie.

Infact there is no good reason for an international internet and the computerisation of jobs it does not benefit the people.

30 years ago there were more jobs people were happier and people made more and even moreover things worked better with proper staffing and no computer crashes.

what have we gained, obesity? Porn?

Overall it is not worth it.

I don't buy your shit and dont tell me i dont know about oil my uncle used to literally run the shell gas desk and sat with rex tillerson at dinner tables.

i will have kids and i dont care about your stupid fucking image of a gusher being human population.

We're bringing them here to achieve a permanent leftist majority that will vote for parties committed to environmental justice. Very simple.

Not only would we not progress, we'd be wasting our resources to lower our own standard of living.

whining about reducing consumption is not enviromental justice.

being free from big oil,funding islamic and other exrtremism .

rudolph diesel had an answer however winston churchill rose to power and oil became king and rudolph was found in the english channel.

churchill came to power big oil money and was therefore corrupt (and also zionist extremists who pushed for an ethnic state in palestine which became isreal).

You didn't read my post at all, did you?

Why post blame entirely on Leftism. "Rightism" certainly didn't raise a finger when America reached it's peak oil era in the 70's. If anything, they began the deregulation phase and were some of the first to push towards greater global expansion (Nixon, Reagan). The Leftist argument may have its truths, but the rights been in the same boat since the beginning and has done little to nothing to stop or even understand our current global predicament.

>Won't they do a lot more environmental damage once they have houses and cars and electricity 24/7?
OP, you need to understand that this is physics and energy situation; left or right has little to do with the predicament. All the world growth has been made possible by the once cheap energy sources (as implied by your picture). Everyone on the planet is already made. The damage is already done. A Malthusian catastrophe will occur no matter where anybody is because the planets carrying capacity will be less than the demand.

Stop feeding niggers.
Problem solved.

By that logic we should end all foreign aid to Africa since it's more environmentally friendly for them to live in poverty and squalor.
Which isn't a bad idea at all. Are leftists /ourfuckingretards/?

L: Well no, because they'll make your lands like theirs, and ruin everything save MY enclave, so the world will be saved.

There's the missing link.

>I: Most of the babies are born in Asia and Africa, why don't we support reducing the birth-rate there?

Good luck getting the right to support condoms and family planning initiatives in Africa.

>L: People in the West use much more water, land, electricity, etc

This is true but lies by omission. A lot of the third world uses primitive tech like wood burning which causes massive pollution and is much less effective than fossil fuels. The deforestation just from cooking and heating in Africa has awful consequences for the environment.

But again good luck funding renewable energy sources or nuclear power plants for Africa.

>I: So why are bringing them here? Won't they do a lot more environmental damage once they have houses and cars

They'd just tell you it's a human right or that they deserve it just as much or that you're racist.. or that when here the birthright would drop.

It's all just kicking the can around. Overpopulation is a problem and the problem is we're consuming too many resources. The majority of all people on the planet don't produce anything in exchange for that consumption either. At 100 million global population we'd have resources to last tens of thousands of years that are in crisis now.

And neither the right or left has the sack to even talk about real action. We're all just propping up this system. Right wingers don't want to talk about resource depletion, and think technology and free markets are magic. The left don't want to realize helping people survive famines and crises now just creates bigger problems later.

No solutions are proposed. Here's one; financial incentive for sterilization. Sterilize yourself (permanently) and get X amount either lump sum or over time. A lot of people would take this option. We'd end up paying less.

This is why handouts are the biggest threat to the world. There are natural mechanisms for dealing with this shit, but the natural mechanisms FAIL if you bind society in free gibs.

>I: So why are bringing them here? Won't they do a lot more environmental damage once they have houses and cars and electricity 24/7?

And they reply with THATS RACIST, YOU'RE LITERALLY HITLER.

Iv given up trying to understand these people. The only thing that makes sense is they want to destroy white, straight men and the 3rd worlders is the way they will do it.

Inconvenient Truth

Lying to Americans to conserve resources so billion and billions of Asians can harvest them in 10 years.

Global Warming is the Big Lie

Global Overpopulation is the problem

Their envy is natural, but until they learn to control it and learn from us, they will have no capacity to become us.

Try

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Overpopulation is a problem, I have two single-mothered neighbors. Each one of them have 5 kids and they are poor as fuck. This need to be solved of course.

Senseless waste of resources is another problem. The world cannot stand the American way of living for much longer. Fuck, I've seen americucks littering perfectly clean and fresh food just because they didn't like it