Anybody else here really care about the environment? I personally identity as a natsoc, and I don't understand why many of you guys don't care about the healthiness of our envrionment, especially in regards to ancestral lands or ones of historical significance. China is a good example of how you can desecrate a historically rich and productive land into a hellscape of sludge and filth visible from space. Why do so many right wing people either don't care/deny/or actively seek the destruction of the environment through irresponsible mining/forestry/industrialization? I don't have any idea how you could possibly be a nationalist if you don't have a motivation to protect your nation's ecological health especially if you view the market as superior to that.
Anybody else here really care about the environment? I personally identity as a natsoc...
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no pussy
I love nature, but the way we have it in NA is shit, I'd rather have cities and nature fully segregated (i.e. eastern europe). To have cities without shitty fucking insects everywhere and have nature that feels like nature.
of course we care about the environment. thats partially why we need to stop out of control capitalism. once we are away from Jews and other non-humans then we'll be left with a nation of people who actually care about the homeland and feel a need to preserve it for our future generations instead of feeling like its just going to be given to Jamal
>I personally identity as a natsoc
Worshipping a dead ideology like a cuck, ey.
>hurr durr ur a feminine if you don't want to pump the rivers with toxic chemicals and cut down all the trees
Can you guys honestly explain your reasoning here? It's almost as if you guys believe that if you're not an irresponsible monster who destroys the environment for future generations and instead seeks to cultivate your country for long term health, you're a fucking faggot. Wouldn't preserving your natural beauty be a masculine trait, as it's forward thinking, sustainable, and ultimately logical and considerate of more people than just yourself and your short term economic gain?
>be commie
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>not be part of winning ideology of greater Asia
Retardspeak uttered by 1984 tier homosapiens. Why can't you think for yourself?
>target whole entire bird species for no fucking reason
>country starves to death because of the environmental damage done by your shitty ideology and peasant leader's decisions
>worship pakistani mangoes
HURRR NAZIS, JEWS, AMERICUNTS, COMMIES, POLLUTED THE ENVIRONMENT TEN TIMES OVER DURING WWII. BUT I STILL SUPPORT A TOTALITARIAN REGIME BECAUSE I AM A FUCKING IDIOT.
Im into /out/. So yeah I care about the environment.
not in a Peta/Green Peace, liberal hippy way though.
more like a hunter/woodsmen way.
>mirror porjection
It's not me you're speaking to, it's you.
>thinking totalitarianism has anything to do with actual communism
hate to break this to you burgerbro, but America has been an Israeli-ran totalitarian country for 80 years now.
>Dipshit has to come on an anonymous ramen noodle discussion forum to speak his mind but
>HURRRRRR DURRRRRRRRRR MUH NAHTZEEEEEEEEEESSSSS ALSO MUH NEW WORLD IS FREEE SPEEECH LOVING PARADISE HURRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>I'm a Nazi
>But I'm a green Nazi
Takes all kinds to make the fucking world go 'round
>N-no you!
>actual communism
Absolute property rights would be pretty damn green, yo.
I don't ever leave my house so not really. Anything of any real historic importance was destroyed thousands of years ago anyway. The sooner the apocaylpse comes the better imho.
Nazis were environmentalists and enacted some of the earliest animal conservation laws in Europe, if not the earliest.
Caring about your people and folk naturally entails caring about the environment in which it inhabits. It's the natural consequence of such a philosophy.
Explain. There is no profit in leaving the beauty of Yosemite or the Great Barrier Reef intact if either of those locations had some natural wealth. The same goes for the rolling hills of Appalachia and the poisonous coal mines there. Capitalism is not only blind to the needs of the folk, but also to the good earth, because neither of them produce a "profit" in the unrestricted capitalist sense.
>inb4 le private national park
Not profitable.
Yes. I'm right-wing as fuck as consider myself an environmentalist. I truly don't understand how we allowed the left to capture that issue. The new world is tantamount to a miracle for our race. We found new continents and conquered them, and we don't want to preserve their stunning nature? That's insanity to me.
Still, I don't buy the climate change nonsense.
I am a strong environmentalist, but belive that monoethnic communities work better than multiethnic communities
Biodiversity>>>>>>>>>>>human ethnodiversity
Oh yeah, I can just see Hitler with a ukulele singing "Tiptoe Through the Tulips"
Agree 100%. Nationalism and environmentalism should go hand in hand. Nature is beautiful and we have a primal connection with it that our grey city hellscapes can never provide.
Basically I'm saying I am a hippie lefty on most things, except the issue of multiculturalism and redistribution of wealth
>Anybody else here really care about the environment?
Yes.
>I personally identity as a natsoc
Grow up.
>I don't understand why many of you guys don't care about the healthiness of our envrionment
Because people think imagined problems are real and real problems are imaginary. This board is a prime example.
The EPA wasn't formed until rivers started catching fire, and they've been so good at their job that most people think they're unneeded.
>Why do so many right wing people either don't care/deny/or actively seek the destruction of the environment through irresponsible mining/forestry/industrialization?
$$$ - not just greed, but a lot of low-income, manual laborers tend to skew conservatively. They have a direct interest in keeping themselves employed and their children fed.
Your perception about environmentalism is clouded by the fact that your only exposure to any such thought lies within the bowels of a rotten leftist faggot, and not a Volkisch superman.
>Healthiness
Derrr.
I'm all for taking care of the environment, but most environmental issues like man-made climate change are just political footballs used to forward the Jew world order commie agenda.
>"A New World Order is required to deal with the Climate Change crisis."
-Mikhail Gorbachev
>"The emerging 'environmentalization' of our civilization and the need for vigorous action in the interest of the entire global community will inevitably have multiple political consequences. Perhaps the most important of them will be a gradual change in the status of the United Nations. Inevitably, it must assume some aspects of a world government."
-Mikhail Gorbachev
>Why is capitalism incompatible with sustainability
cpusa.org
>Communist Agenda Behind Climate Change Movement
breitbart.com
>UN Climate Chief Says Communism is Best Way to Fight Global Warming
townhall.com
>Climate Alarmists Push Chinese Communism, Population Control
thenewamerican.com
>'People’s Climate March’ Backed By Communist, Socialist Parties
dailycaller.com
listen i hate jews, but i also hate big government. what is the big idea. yes, a white america would be fucking amazing. sigh me up.
The left has planted its flag on environmentalism as a whole via their climate change hoax. It's such bullshit. These city dwelling sissies who have never left their disgusting high rise and strip mall hellscapes have claimed the high ground on the environment solely through bewitching the public through a fairy tale.
>hate's "big government"
>opposes the Jew
Sorry to break it to you pal, but Jews in the free market will ALWAYS triumph over the Goyim. They are just better at that, and whats more, they will cooperate among themselves to the exclusion of you and the rest of the Goyim pigs. The only solution is an organized response by the whole population in the form of the state.
Fashism raises one kind of capital that is rarely talked about. The social capital. While multiculturalism lowers said capital and any attempts to build communism outright destroy it. Without social trust in your compatriots nothing good can be achieved on a global scale. Norilsk for scale as a shining achievement of communist planning.
I'll try to answer your question, as far as I'm concern global warming is true, but not as depicted by media, climate change has always happened, long before we were even homo sapiens sapiens. We do care about environment, but not everything can be a national park or something like it, we have our needs to take care of first and try to keep our impact as minimal as possible, but globalism stops that, because for example a lot of people want to migrate to the US, therefore requiring more resources but we have limited resources that should be only for our people; We are not in control to do something about it, but at least I do my part by not throwing trash in the streets.
I take care of the environment, more so than green/ecologist/vegan subhumans. I never liter in the wild, actually I pick up other people's shit even, I don't throw away dangerous stuff on the ground or in random places, etc. I try my best to not fuck up things even more than they are now.
That being said, fuck all ecologists/greens/vegans with their bans on everything, their climate change bullshit, and their taxes on everything. This shit has become a business to rack in money, appealing to people's feelings "oh you don't want to pay for the "environment", that means you want the earth destroyed?"
Yeah of course.
nigger's hate anything that isn't a white man paving over nature for them.
>Sorry to break it to you pal, but Jews in the free market will ALWAYS triumph over the Goyim. They are just better at that
Stupid kike ignores usury laws of the Church and how Jews got away with lending millions to goy through it.
Look at this self righteous fucking faggot, you pick up some trash here and there and call people who actually work toward protecting the environment subhumans
>I can't understand macroeconomic issues
Not everything can be a national park, and I would go so far as to say the federal government owns too much of the west (so much for manifest destiny) but, even though he was a cuck in many ways, I am partial to the Jeffersonian view of a republic of yeoman farmers. Private land ownership can prosper under a regulatory regime designed to maximize beautification and preservation. Yeah, corporations want to build horrific atrocities like strip malls and what not, but people, individuals, given the chance to own land, would be enchanted by its beauty and gifts, and so long as they are economically comfortable, choose to preserve the better parts of its nature. I see it all the time in my state. I have "neighbors" (most of my neighbors own large lots of land) who have flat out been offered money for their land, as have I, but have refused, because its value to them exceeds the offers. Simple as that. And the reason is because nature itself has value. I've always thought this was an underdiscussed issue. How many property owners turn down development offers, how the Jeffersonian dream of a west owned and occupied by ferocious individualist landowwners.
The kikes have made it seem like and either or issue, but for many people it's not. You can own land privately and want to preserve its character, as opposed to feeding it to the maw of soulless corporations that want to endlessly "develop". It still happens. It's all a matter of instilling values and mores as far as I'm concerned.
You fail to grasp the enormity of problems facing humanity.
> global warming is true, but not as depicted by media
CO2 level never in the history of life on earth were this fucking high. We will not be abel to bring CO2 levels to 1950s levels with current tehnology. That's it, we already dun goofed.
climate.nasa.gov
>not everything can be a national park
If somehow the feeding of Africa was stopped then we could have had an entire continent of a park minus some mines and oilfields. The impact of "charity to Africa" organisations is catastrophic.
>I do my part by not throwing trash in the streets
That's because you are socially and environmentally concious because of your superior ideology. Good job. But a lot of people are infected with marxism or are too demoralised to care. Not to mention straight up untermenshen that can't even begin to grasp the concept of human beings having an impact on ecology. Reminds me that one tribe of niggers that could not comprehend the link between having sex and woman getting pregnat.
Conservatives conserve nature.
>CO2 level never in the history of life on earth were this fucking high
Bullshit.
You know CO2 isn't actually the pollution that is a problem coming out of coal right? It is SO2 not CO2.
I am Nat Soc and do care too. It's the most important thing for me. I think those not caring are all Jewish shills since Jews are against beauty and nature. They want to turn the entire globe in their disgusting, dirty, concrete farms. Honestly, if you don't like nature and don't spend your time in nature, you can't call yourself a white man.
I believe it was higher during the time of the dinosaurs, but that's irrelevant - the danger is that our ecosystem doesn't like change. The crops we grow, the animals we eat have all evolved to exist in a certain climate.
It's like a house of cards really.
The data is pretty consistent on that one.
>Carbon dioxide enters the atmosphere through burning fossil fuels (coal, natural gas, and oil), solid waste, trees and wood products, and also as a result of certain chemical reactions (e.g., manufacture of cement).
You're a commie and we know it,faggot.
We care about the environment because its part of our countries and because we care about our countries and race the environment will be protected as a result of our rise. We aren't fucking hippies only caring about the environment though. This is what you don't understand you kike faggot.
They are Jewish shills, pay no attention. Real man doesn't destroy, he protects. He doesn't take life, he cultivates it. Only cowards pollute the environment and cut down the trees
Say something new besides the sky is falling ,faggot.
mhm
According to your own CO2 levels charts, we would need something greater than Africa. Also if we really want to stop CO2 emissions, go to fucking college and let's keep building fusion reactors, green energy, no waste, relatively easy to contain, and also in case of emergency there wouldn't be any harm, that's what I mean media doesn't push that idea and depicts solar panels as ultimate solutions.
It's an interesting idea non the less, if I could I would try to apply that, more than national parks.
According to your own CO2 levels charts, we would need something greater than Africa. Also if we really want to stop CO2 emissions, go to fucking college and let's keep building fusion reactors, green energy, no waste, relatively easy to contain, and also in case of emergency there wouldn't be any harm, that's what I mean media doesn't push that idea and depicts solar panels as ultimate solutions.
It's an interesting idea non the less, if I could I would try to apply that, more than national parks.
Fucking kys IPCC shill. You faggots have proven time and again you are a bunch of crony data manipulators.
Caring about the enviroment is a product of your mind and biology, not a cause, NatSoc wants to implement change by the roots and not change the effect
Also many people hate themselves so they hate also their enviroment, if you hate it you just dont care
Last but not least capitalism is out of control, you basically can argue today that your trash and pollution is good because it gives someone else a job, you just pay someone else to throw away your trash or clean the oceans (very limited argument in an objective sense)
>Say something new besides the sky is falling ,faggot.
Why lie? Frankly why even have this discussion - we're past the point of no return. As others have said, at best we can limit the damage.
WHAT THE FUCK
Well Nazis were green....They protected environment, hell the main motif of Adolf's amazing paintings was usually nature.
>why lie
No, why are YOU lying?
>during the time of the dinosaurs
Ah, yes. My mistake.This chart is more specific if one really wants to try and survive what dinosaurs couldn't.
We must secure the existence of our environment and a future for mother nature.
That's technically not true. Hitler says it in Mein Kampf that he partly wanted to become an architect during his time in Vienna. Hitler's greatest focus was on architecture rather than nature, but it was still present.
Yes, and also NatSoc.
And the reason the 'right' largely disregards the issue is because the lolbertarians and kike neocons are entrenched in their opposition to anything that could hurt shekel-making.
Also, as said, the leftists have ruined a lot of true environmental causes (even climate change/global warming) by association. Kind of like how it is political suicide to normies if you mention anything pro-white, even if the point is completely valid.
But the point is, the "no step" types try to stuff their heads in the sand to avoid *gasp* a government-implemented solution. Which they wouldn't need if they pretended there was no problem.
I love them as fellow white nationalists, but god damn, they can be irritating.
The ultra rare double post! Only witnessed 3 times on Sup Forums in over 10 years!
Holy fuck did a blind nigger create that chart or does it say it will randomly triple for no reason?
yes but i dont theres anything we can do about it
>our ecosystem doesn't like change
Change is the only thing that forces production.
Look around you
>cold air meeting warm air
>fresh water meeting salt water
>land meeting sea
Anywhere there isn't change is biological desert. Stagnation kills.
Initially read that as "Anime_in_Nazi_Germany"
I don't even know what the fuck happened.
I would be fine with this.
This is an example of what I mean. You assume that because we see the same issue as leftists, that we have the same values/reasons as they do. I wholeheartedly support nuclear power initiatives.
A good analogy is assuming that fascists want to redistribute wealth like the communists, just because both criticize capitalism, when that is not the case.
>for no reason
This is exactly what we are trying to show you, there is a reason.
kek
Guys. The point is. Current marxist motherfuckers are spending moeney on feeding untermensh niggers that increase pollution. This is contrarian to ancap, nazi and many other ideologies.
said the communist
CO2 has already been debunked as being a problem. Find some other "pollution" or something to sound the alarms about.
Want to save nature? Stop globalism. Freight ships and trucks moving huge amounts of cargo across the world is the biggest source of pollution we have.
This is a load of bollocks and you know it. Animals themselves are a huge dynamic factor of evolution, with the constant competition and predator-prey relationships. Add on diseases and invasive species, and you have PLENTY of chaotic forces at work.
I have a Ram Cummins Turbo Diesel truck that I've modified to "roll coal." It's when you see black smoke pour out if the exhaust. I drive it around the UT campus in Austin to piss off the SJWs. The best is when I open her up next to some morons protesting whatever with their signs on street corners.
I am with you natsoc bro
If we are going to preserve a future for our people then it may as well be a nice place to live.
>NUCLEAR FUSION WHEN??
This, fuck the kikes. They aren't interested in actually solving the problem--why should they? Leftists think they can throw other people's money at it forever, and it will go away. It's free shekels for the globalist scum, and they keep getting it as long as the issue is unresolved. It's the Everlasting Gobstopper of politics, if you will.
>debunked
CO2 is a marker for industrial activity, even though it is far from being the sole factor in warming. Stop moving the goalposts.
>I personally identity as a natsoc
This is getting a little too common for comfort. "natsoc" is the new 72 genders now.
i'll argue with you on this, a man must both destroy and protect. a man must chop a tree to build his house, he must hunt game to feed his family. however he must not chop down a tree for fun, or kill an animal and leave it's corpse to rot.
>CO2 is a marker for industrial activity, even though it is far from being the sole factor in warming. Stop moving the goalposts.
It is a non existent factor of warming past 100ppm+.
1414
That is the real two number we should be saying bruv. 1414
>industrial activity produces various greenhouse gases, among them CO2, SO2, and CH4
>CO2 is the most abundant and detectable in the atmosphere, despite having much less potency than other gases in trapping heat
>measure CO2 as a gauge for activity that releases other gases
It's not hard. And again: stop moving the goalposts.
pls stop posting my wife on this website
Not caring about climate change =/= not caring about the environment. I think climate change distract us from real pollution issues that are happening right now, like China and Russia and everywhere else poisoning rivers with industrial and agricultural waste.
Didn't really do that but you did every single post it is called projection btw.
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Not sure if you know this friend, but there's kind of an unspoken agreement here on Sup Forums that a totalitarian NatSoc government will purge degenerates and non-whites and then dissolve itself in favor of a 1776 libertarian government
i.e: The tree of liberty is about due for a watering
That's why human has intelligence, to know what he can and he cannot do. Chopping down a tree from a thickly grown area to build a shelter is one thing, destroying an entire forest to build a city which will support overpopulation further is another. Killing a deer or boar, knowing they procreate easily and fastly to feed your family is one thing, killing an endangered specie for the sake of it is another.
I care about both, but largely you are right.
>I say that there is a reason for climate change
>you counter by specifically focusing on CO2 and trying to "debunk" it
>I then explain that CO2 is just a marker, and nobody ever claimed it was the sole reason for climate change
>I tell you not to move the goalpost from there being a cause to the cause being cherrypicked and simplified by you
>You call this projection
Really?
I'm fine with that, given proper anti-pollution/deforestation measures.
I do native tree plantings and volunteer at a local environment centre.
No you fucking hippie. Go back to failing at artschool.
>Anybody else here really care about the environment?
As an Idaho bro (formerly Oregon Coaster) it's been huge in my life since I was able to read. I know media narrative and science can shift but at the end of the day conservation of our natural lands remains an overwhelmingly positive institution.
I would die for these lands if circumstance align.
All we have really confirmed is that non-whites are doing 95% of the pollution. You can keep switching what ever pollution you want to say is causing it and how tho.
As I said, please don't assume I have the same ideas as the leftists. While whites certainly have a part to play (nuclear, imo), I would be fine with bombing the everlasting shit out of niggers to help the environment.
Every NatSoc should care about the enviroment, but not in the green global warming meme way.