Communism General

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Other urls found in this thread:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Hermann_Hoppe
kikebook.com/HoppeanSnakeMemes/
youtu.be/rm0wgM9b0gY
twitter.com/NSFWRedditImage

Real communism has never been tried.

Old thread

SAGE

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>Replying to # from last thread.

So what you're saying is the self progression of individuals is free, communists don't have to work more than they have to, its better if people eventually don't have to work so much because then they get to self-progress in artistic & scientific areas and then somehow means are created?

What was that last part about the means created for all of all people?

Real Capitalism hasnt been tried xDDD

REAL THREAD
REAL THREAD

Communism will win

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Explain why imperialism is bad?

Why was the Soviet Union such a huge collection of SJW cucks and kikes that they gave niggers AK-47s to kill white people and ruin our empires?

Hello amigos. This general is for the discussion of Spainfag, the larping, basement-dwelling originator of daily autistic commie threads

Spainfag is the next stage of cuckoldry who follows the failed idea of communism

Who exactly is Spainfag according to everybody who sees his threads:

>Spainfag is an unemployed /leftypol/ drain on society who advocates for gibs cuz he is too lazy to work. He has never produced anything and is thus a waste of resources. He preaches “from each according to their ability and to each according to their need” because he has no abilities and needs to die
>Spainfag in it's full form is a sperging, no class cuck that follows the maxim “lalalala I can't hear your logic” and argues anything you say with cringey pedo memes that are poorly photoshopped to support communism
>To achieve such a high level of autism Spainfag must have been dropped on his head as a baby and been molested by family. His mind is now controlled by the zionist-communist class. A struggle will occur in which the people finally fight back and the zionists will be liquidated by the working class. When the zionist class has been completely vanquished, there will be many classes based on peoples' individual abilities and work ethic, and eventually the functions of the state will become minimized to ensure a free market with low taxes which benefit society as a whole, and the welfare state as such will 'wither away'
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

Spainfag uses a philosophy called retardation, see here:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism

It is recommended to sage Spainfag threads and post anti-commie memes for maximum keks. Hoppean snake & Pinochet helicopter memes, and factual anti-commie infographs work best

Resources:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Hermann_Hoppe
kikebook.com/HoppeanSnakeMemes/

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Oh look, more autists who cling to a completely broken system and claim that it hasn't been tried yet

>implying commies have access to books

Better thank Amazon for those.

MARX WAS AN OBESE NEET BOURGEOISIE LMFAO

HE WAS FAT AT A TIME WHEN ONLY THE RICHES CAPITALIST PIGS WERE OBESE LMAO

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So what are your arguments?

Soon.

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Cockshott books are for free in his website

Pffft, pleb.

So I get that the picture is showing we're "exploiting" the dark people but what exactly is the naked blonde girl? Did we imperialize Iceland and force them to make laptops for us?

>communist reading list
>only a 1/3 is about commie shit
>2/3 is unrelated filler
lmfao you commie faggots can't do anything right

If real communism has never been tried, doesn't that mean that communism fails every time before it even begins? What a successful ideology it must be.

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>when commies forget they aren't on the internet

anti-colonialism predates just communists friend.
Gandhi sure as hell was not a communist.

>the self progression of individuals is free
technological advances allow for education to be free

>if people eventually don't have to work so much because then they get to self-progress in artistic & scientific areas and then somehow means are created?
No one works to be creative or self-fullflling but to survive.

Marx was just like the NEET faggot commies we see now. He was raised with a silver spoon in his mouth, never worked a hard job in his life, and thought he was smarter than everyone else despite being dumber than the average downie.

nah dude! Linear Algebra is about taking down the system maaaan!

hahahaha

Women should be subservient to men. Letting women vote was a mistake.

early prototype footage:
youtu.be/rm0wgM9b0gY
DAY OF THE ROTOR SOON

>Paul cockshott

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What measures does communism have to prevent international tribalists from becoming the elites in a communist society?

ebin

yep, he lived off his homosexual capitalist lover Engels who basically paid him to exist and sit around in coffee shops while actual proles worked

Hilarious that an ideology all about the workers was created by a guy that didn't work

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>anti-colonialism predates just communists friend.
Is that why the Chinks are recolonizing Africa?

Hey look. Another commie thread where a bunch of bourgeois college students ignore all of the good capitalist arguments

At least you have your porkie memes

Doesn't change the fact that anti-imperialism was one of commies' biggest agendas; and you still shill for it today. The actions of the USSR in funding multiple communist revolutions in nigger countries can't be denied in this respect.

Every time some nigger Marxist shithole collapses, you blame the West and white people.

I love this

CAPITALISTS BTFO

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Simpleton mind who doesn't understand geopolitics and the complex interwebing of US interests with nigger 3rd world shitholes

It has to do with realpolitics and how China aims to weaken its western counterparts.

This is the real thread btw
Just like you to indoctrinate kids.

they get destroyed every time, have for as long as they've created these threads.

The best part is this is great redpilling for any newcomers, they see the commie general and every single time they see them getting BTFO, moving goalposts, running away from arguments etc.

the commies are actually doing us a favor by coming here and being inept at arguing intelligently.

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I would like to add that this is a huge flaw in the capitalist societies most of us live in, so to have communism as an alternative this issue needs to be addressed.

National liberation is bit different form pure anti-colonialism.
Western late stage capitalism is ultimately to blame since majority of the global capital is controlled by it, along with the markets resources.

Even if there is a degree of US interference, the commies still refuse to take any blame for their own specific failures.

Also, it's still a fact that the Soviets funded Marxist niggers to kill white people and ruin our imperial supply chains that could have been used to give more gibs to white workers.

>be commie
>reduce the amount of wealth for the working class because your feelz for brown retards on the other side of the globe

is this the only meme template you guys have?

no wonder your ideology is dead

Long as the /leftypol/ grows it does not matter.

you only have pepe
and we only have porky

I love the fact that the only argument necessary when dealing with fucking commies is to point out how every communist system to date has failed and slain millions.

Notice they don't answer a lot of the questions? I don't get it because obviously theres been a lot of communists in history that believed to have better answers to the capitalist system. Why do they hardly answer?

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>It has to do with realpolitics and how China aims to weaken its western counterparts.
Ok Kissinger, tell me then. Since the Chinks were so adamant about arming groups like ZANU-PF for their anti-colonial purposes to help kickstart a communist world, doesn't that clash with their current practices of stripmining the contient out from underneath the people that live there? China is, and always will be, a paper tiger. FFS they got their asses handed to them by the Vietnamese.

It is just as hypocritical as the Soviets allowing Olof Aschberg, a swedish Jew, to open the Roskombank.

Sounds lot like nationalism to me desu.

*grabs ur benis*
what did he mean by this?

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Remember not to eat your children!

The "muh they don't answer meme"
retard, every argument was adressed already ITT

>you only have pepe
You sure about that?

>/leftypol/
>growing

theres like 40 of you, look at how many posters we have on Sup Forums

you're fucking nothing and never will be lmao
>pepe is the only meme

hahahahaha

Reminder communists actually think everyone is equal and you should have the same amount of stuff as niggers, that if you worked for more stuff, the nigger should be given what you spent your time working for. That you shouldnt actually own anything, and that everything you use also be publicly owned by niggers. They also advocate white genocide, and are responsible for how whites were treated in both Zimbabwe and South Africa. Zimbabwe is real communism, power to the people, I mean masses of niggers who outnumber whites like 5-1 globally, before chinks and shitskins come into it.

Reminder they are liberals, because liberals are anti-racists, and racism is anti-communism by definition. If you think races aren't equal, youre the opposite of a communist.

sage

Nazis killed way more white people than commies who liberated europe.

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>you only have pepe
you wish nigger

AI will not be communist you dumb retard. Communism is dead.

>liberated europe.
Look at all the smiling faces.

Communism is a heresy of Marxism. Its end result is almost always for a nation to rot from the inside out. The irony is that NatSocs are closer to Marx than the Bolsheviks or their successors every were. If Marx were alive today he'd have the sense to acknowledge the flaws in his theories and the fucktardation of those who have come after him.

Can't defend your name or your ideas after you're dead.

they're all mentally challenged, not a single commie ITT has an IQ over 90. They're scared to answer questions because they don't have the answers to them, to be a communist you have to bury your head so far up your own ass that you pass out.

Its not a meme if I've experienced it in this thread. Please don't try to offend me. I'm referring to the questions I've asked, not any arguments. Please answer my questions if you have answers to them.

this tbqh

>capitalism is to blame
>not the cucks who helped/funded the 'groids to fight Western empires

I literally don't care if 3rd-world niggers suffer and die under capitalism, as long as we are extracting wealth from them and creating more resources/goods for ourselves.

I support a massive, luxury welfare state for white people just like Hitler wanted. The gibs extracted from nigger slaves helps expand said welfare state.

oh look, this thread again

No, since Chinese infrastructure projects are pushing the international capital towards its final completely interconnected phase.

Liberals*

>"""""liberated"""""
>not making your own empire for Russia

Finland dindu nuffin.

>Anonymous (ID: 8CGVU+Je) GN

yup

Commies are natural born cuckolds. If they ever found a hag that would marry them they'd definitely share the "means of production" if you know what I mean.

epic meme XD

Too bad their choices to invest extensively in Africa have all been for naught.

I agree with this.

Also, Holodomor.

Actually we joined the soviets in their war efforts in the finnish-german war that was started in 1945 to push nazies out of Finland.

gonna need some ointment for that assblast

Oh shit, the red revolutionaries are so terrifying!

this posts show that capitalist cucks and right wingers are primitive apes, thinking only with their primal instincts and not thinking about the good for humanity.

Post-scarcity society is the goal of communism and it will happen no matter what you'll do. It's inevitable. Get ready capitalist pigs.

>commies were fedoras back in the day too

HAHAHAHA

It's funny how little things have changed

didn't happen

>commies shoot their own men in the back if they rout
>commies pillage villages as they pass them
>commies exile and abuse millions of germans after WW2
>commies purge their own nation of all political dissidents

>but they killed less white people than the Nazis!
It's cute when you lie through your teeth like that.

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At least they're not in a gas chamber.

>since Chinese infrastructure projects are pushing
The "infrastructure projects" are only to keep Chinese buisness going in the region. The chinese even ship over their own labor force because Africans are terrible workers. There is little to no benefit going to the continent of Africa from China.

>Post-scarcity society is the goal of communism and it will happen no matter what you'll do

pfffft hahahahahaha