Can we talk about Mexico's real problem, the problem everyone in Mexico seems to ignore and that's themselves. in the last two decades Mexico has relied heavily off the United States thanks to its immigrants coming over here, Mexico seems like a fun place for tourists but in reality it's a hell hole with not much advancement. The people of Mexico are largely uneducated and obese, most of them don't take care of themsleves as they age and I've noticed Mexicans seem to be party-holics especially the women they all love or at least a good half of them love to go to parties and act like sluts. Mexicans don't assert the law in rural areas, when I was in Mexico last month a local told me the youth have a drug problem they told me that sometimes they see 11 or 12 year olds intoxicated in some areas. Mexico has a human trafficking problem where young girls are forced into prostitution for money and killed. I could go on but all these problems could be solved if Mexico actually had some brains, mexico could solve their problems but they don't know how to do they point the finger at the United States now and say it's our fault now that trump is in.
Mexico's real problem is themselves
Large states have circular problems, don't think Mexico hasn't tried importing "better" people. There's nothing actually wrong with the Mexicans ethnically.
Lmao
10/10
Mexico doesn't get better people because theirs nothing they can offer better people, plus not many or very few would actually move to Mexico considering the state it's always been in Mexico just doesn't have the same tone to it say like the United States.
This is a pasta, and a very bad one, at that.
The issues that mexico has are a combination of our own faults and foreign influence, you need to be a peak mouthbreather to believe it's mostly the fault of Mexicans or mostly the fault of foreigners.
It's obviously that in an American board where blind 'nationalists' and racists gather, they will be more reluctant to admit their country has had a hand in the misery of the ones they dislike.
Mexico's problem is that it's filled with Mexicans, the WORST people on Earth.
>entitlement complex of the blacks
>savagery of the Muslims
>persecution complex of the Jews
All wrapped together in one miserable brown dwarfish package.
Look, I'm out of options.
There's dangerous places in northern Mexico and infrastructure problems in Mexico city, they need a large state which creates that certain kind of people.
Why can't everywhere be a mining utopia?
media in Mexico is in full feminism mode, but it have low advance because the traditionalism and catholic roots, except for millennials, they are all rotten now. At least we dont have niggers.
except it's not pasta though I was their just last month and it's not a very bright place in all honesty, either you live in a city where living might be better for you as opposed to the poor areas or you just don't want to admit mexico is shit hole.
no shit Sherlock.
Mexico real problems
>Mexico
one of the main problems of Mexico is the concentration of power, wealth and bureaucracy in Mexico city, an enormous shit hole, people of other states hates people of Mexico city. It have a left government and is the one of the most ugly cities of the world. His big size makes waste a lot of resources, wealth to the drain, its beyond non sense, with no No efficiency.
>at least they don't have niggers
Because blacks don't wanna live in Mexico and get killed by the cartel besides Mexicans also dont like blacks
>Mexico's real problem is themselves
this is usually the case with everyone
>except it's not pasta
It is, I saw two identical posts like this yesterday, can't tell how many more times it has been spammed because I'm not gonna look it up on the archive
Don't lie
> just last month and it's not a very bright place in all honesty, either you live in a city where living might be better for you as opposed to the poor areas or you just don't want to admit mexico is shit hole.
By poor areas you mean the south, as in Oaxaca and similar states? No shit, they're commie as fuck in the south. Furthermore I doubt that you 'know' even 10% of our territory.
When you live in a country that has been run by an oligarchy since its founding it is pretty hard to be enthusiastic about the prospects of your life. Most Mexicans just live day by day and don't give a shit. Unfortunately they import that shitty mentality wherever they go. Mexico has never really been a success story. There a lot of shitty Latin American countries that in the past were pretty successful. Venezuela ironically was one of the most productive and richest countries in Latin America many years ago. Chile did great under Pinochet despite the commies crying. Argentina was literally richer than France during the early 1900s. Cuba was the jewel of the Spanish speaking world for many years before the commies got their grubby hands on it. Brazil had a fucking Emperor for a while. What did Mexico have? Countless violent revolutions, Marxism, a faggy french Emperor, some cunt with a uni-brow. The closest Mexico ever got to greatness was under Porfirio Diaz and that went straight to shit after him.
Please tell me you are joking. Go visit Mexico sometime and then tell me there isn't anything wrong with them ethnically. They are a vision of our future. Majority mixed indio trash with a tiny white minority that hate each other.
Mexico's real problem is that Mexicans are lazy rape babies that aren't European enough to be worth the dirt the live in.
This, Mexico should do what Brazil did and move their capital outside of Mexico City. Move all the government buildings to a new location and continue having Mexico City as your financial center.
I was in Durango last month and even then half of those areas are shit, look the truth is Mexico isn't a success story like many other countries in the world. What's really sad is you have New Mexicans in the United States who don't take the talents they learned from here and help improve mexico for the better, face it Mexico is just a always in a state of good and bad mostly bad and no one seems to ever get shit done, if Mexico can't slove or just leaves 98% percent of their crimes unsloved then don't say it's not your own fault.
It is a generic third world problem. Third world people create a third world country.
well, along time ago when the aztecs era, we rule almost all the America continent.The shit came in 1940 with the imposition of shit urbanism and erase of urban spanish legacy , and in the 1960, with the invasion of marxism ideology in universities.
>i was their last month
That's why the opinion of illiterate inbred hicks is worth shit.
Stay salty, nigger lovers.
>Mexican intellectuals
>can't get a grasp of your own language
Reading rainbooowww....reading raaaainbooowwww!
we dont have cultural diversity, we have an homogeneous culture, we only have two main races, whites descendants of spanish and mestizos, whats our problem in this matter?
So your just gonna count out the Afro Mexicans no wonder you dwarfs are twats even to your own kind.
I wouldn't say Aztec rule was a success considering every single tribe in the region stabbed them in the back to help the Spaniards....
Durango is almost on the bottom of the GDP rank in Mexico, dumb faggot, also, not every northern state is successful, more factors are involved than just sitting at the north.
You're just rambling about random issues, spouting unbacked affirmations, and pretending it's proof of how the state of the country as a whole is entirely the fault of Mexicans. We don't exist in a vacuum, faggot.
Structure your position better because I'm not giving you anymore (you)'s, I'm not going to spend my morning arguing with continuous goalpost moving.
Do you unironically believe the US, a nation which historically has maneuvered their tentacles to produce outcomes in foreign countries that benefit it, does not have a hand in what their neighbor has become today?
we are free of muslims and nigers, this should be a good thing
No joke the Afro-mexican thing is a fucking meme. I lived in D.F. for a year and toured almost all the country minus Sinaloa for obvious reasons. Literally met 1 black guy and he was from the U.S. Unless all the niggers are in Sinaloa working for the cartels, I didn't meet any.
Sinaloa is unironically less dangerous than other States like Michoacan, Baja California, Tamaulipas, among others. The cartels here don't have a history of branching out to kidnapping, extortion, etc, unlike the states I mentioned
Lmao, my f.a.m is from Sinaloa and I was there in march, it's fine as long as you aren't retarded
I don't need to argue with you I know the shitty state Mexico is in.
fucking mexicans ruined mexico
Really now I never knew I mean I knew even if it was tire or not Afro Mexicans are very few.
the main problem right now is feminism of millenials, in long therm Mexico will be totally screw, the worst will came with the next generation
>I don't need arguments to prove my position
Then what's the point of this thread?
Stroke the dick of other biased anons like yourself in a big circlejerk?
Nice touch evading the question I made at the end of my previous post, btw :^)
other big problem in Mexico is that we dont have real free spech, for example an skeptic community in internet is unthinkable, you will have a bullet in your head if you dare.
>Can we talk about Mexico's real problem, the problem everyone in Mexico seems to ignore and that's themselves. in the last two decades Mexico has relied heavily off the United States thanks to its immigrants coming over here, Mexico seems like a fun place for tourists but in reality it's a hell hole with not much advancement. The people of Mexico are largely uneducated and obese, most of them don't take care of themsleves as they age and I've noticed Mexicans seem to be party-holics especially the women they all love or at least a good half of them love to go to parties and act like sluts. Mexicans don't assert the law in rural areas, when I was in Mexico last month a local told me the youth have a drug problem they told me that sometimes they see 11 or 12 year olds intoxicated in some areas. Mexico has a human trafficking problem where young girls are forced into prostitution for money and killed. I could go on but all these problems could be solved if Mexico actually had some brains, mexico could solve their problems but they don't know how to do they point the finger at the United States now and say it's our fault now that trump is in.
All this shit you wrote can be applied to the US too. Now I'm not going to disagree with you because I see all this also, but you should maybe focus on your own country first.
That's not an argument, though. No one in this thread has claimed that Mexico is free of any problems.
I'm gonna argue that sex slaves and drug trafficking are in part caused by Americans, because you are the market and you enable and empower these criminals with your money.
Then you're gonna bring up other issues in a retarded goalpost moving fashion, while failing to admit that you do have a hand in he state of our country.
You're a shit debater and you really lack the capacity to detach yourself from biases before forming a judgement.
i am tired of mexicans like you that make themselves blind to the real problems, scumfag
I disagree. You can say and do whatever the fuck you want here.
Its more a case of the average mexican being severely dumb and only talking about the samentired subjects.
I'm not blind and I don't disagree with you anywhere. I don't like fucking Americans telling us what we NEED to do like OP.
>American money fuels cartels
>this is Mexico's fault
>subjects.
fuck you, i challenge you to dare to make a youtube political critic channel
for scumbags like you, Mexico is what it is, its like a viral thing
It's not black and white like that, it's an international issue where both of our countries are at fault for different reasons.
It's rare to see Americans admitting the fact their government also fails or takes immoral actions, must be all the nationalist brainwashing that takes place in the US or it's because we're in a board where chest beating nationalist chimping is the norm.
but the haitians keep coming to mexico.
its not about USA, its about Mexico, what a leftist mind you have, always blame other for your own problems
Sure I'll admit my debating skills need a lot of work but at least I'm not dumb like the average day to day Mexican, and Solving the human trafficking problem is easier said then done, American money is worth a lot in Mexico right now. Mexico is a country full of potential but when will you people ever rise again, Mexico needs more people like (you) in order to advance out of the third world status.
Lol. You fucked that faggot up. In my opinion, the problem is the good ones either get killed by the cartels or move here. America should get involved but we won't because our politicians don't care about what's best for both of our countries. They care about $$$
we dont like niggers here, nobody give them a job, we in some way are racist against them
All right you're not a faggot. You admitted your mistake and used the experience to learn. Good man
>critic
You will always get shit thrown at you when criticizing, regardless of subject.
Still, nothing is stopping you from doing so, unlike in ewrope where you'd have the thought police at your door the day after. Besides what the fuck are you going to say that hasn't been said already a million times? No one here likes the government,
Any niggers that come to Mexico must assimilate or die (literally).
lol its not a matter of police, its a matter of being hanged naked with the balls cut above a bridge.
Im certain that mexicos interdependence was strongly supported by Americans so they could swoop in and take all of non industrial mexico.
Win or lose we all learn something I'm not perfect at all but he did give me ideas on what I need to work on still.
the independence was long social process, indeed some parts of mexican constitution are taken from the USA constitution, during the revolution
For criticizing the government?
Nigga they'll kill you for wearing their rival soccer team shirt.
Mexico is basically exactly like California is becoming. I don't say this because CA is overrun with Mexicans (though it is), I say this because the liberal policies essentially create a MASSIVE societal divide.
Mexico has two very distinct classes. There's the rich who live in tiny little islands of wealth. They go to separate schools, they breed only with each other, they give each other high level jobs, etc. Then there's the mestizo goblin trash that fills the rest of the country, raping and killing each other.
They're basically the Morlocks and Eloi, they're almost separate species at this point. The exact same thing has happened in CA. There's pockets of wealthy folks in the Bay and LA, where it's almost all rich whites (and asians now) who go to all white schools, etc. Then if you go out to like, Salinas you're essentially in a sewer of rat-people who are barely human.
There is ZERO social mobility in both areas. You're not going to work your way up in CA. The rat-people out along the I-5 corridor basically graduate high school without being able to even read.
I agree, there is a transparent wall between racial classes in mexico, that nobody wants to accept
Its genetics. It has always been genetics, and you'll never get a good explanation until you factor in genetics.
>why do europeans go extinct when the "people" that replaced them are literal inbred retards?
>because of their jewropean genes
subversion > genes, and the media has been very clearly involved in this indoctrination among both classes to accept the status quo for decades
this is all but true also poor people not using condoms makes things worst
fucking hell poor people here breed like niggers
they all go to TJ
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mestizos have lower iq than, white spaniards, genetics is a part of the problem. But look Argentina were there was not race mix, they have a lot of economical problems like us. Its like Latin america, didnt know how to continue and develop the spanish legacy, we are like a gruyere cheese for leftist ideology, if not were by USA we will be comunist.
who would have guessed a bunch of guac goblins couldn't govern like white people? color me surprised.
its time to accept that USA protect us form communism, Latin America should show some gratitude, and stop complaining about imperialism, its viral.
I voting for el peje that's it he'll win the presidency
I'm not leftard at all but we need a change
I love how Americans went from the left to the right without hesitating
All they have to do is legalize all drugs, and then the cartels will lose business and die out. After all, it's been proven that legalizing drugs do not result in increased usage. But the government is obviously in cahoots with the cartels, getting a cut of the profits.
el peje has to win tho
no more pri or pan
peje is taking advantage of religious imagery, with the Virgin Mary for political reasons, he is full feminist, he is the most dangerous men in Mexico, he is a bridge to socialism, dont get cheated
>You're not going to work your way up in CA. The rat-people out along the I-5 corridor basically graduate high school without being able to even read.
Has it gotten worse the last few years? I live in the Bay and am probably one of the few people who fall outside your two categories. I'm a random white dude who isn't from a rich family, I wasted my 20s partying, and I taught myself programming and went into tech in my early 30s. I haven't gone out to the central valley in years, but last time I was out there I remember it being basically just hispanics, convicts, and white trash druggie-looking types.
I think that locally, mexico has two big issues which are preventing us to tilt the country into other direction, the first one is organized crime, and the second is corruption in the government, they complement each other. This topic is nothing new.
It would be hard for me to encapsulate this in a single post but the gist of it is that both politicians and organized criminals are running the country to the ground in an almost orchestrated fashion.
On one hand you have the politicians who steal money for education, infrastructure, and pretty much anything whom also are big time into nepotism and giving jobs only to their supporters, and end up ruining the life options of average people, so they end in poverty doing shitty jobs for the guy who happens to run the local government or get into crime if they're ambitious, if they're lucky to be smart or virtuous they might get an education and crawl out of these two options
On the other hand you have the cartels which are taking advantage of the fact the politicians are corrupt and our young people are impoverished, they give jobs to the poor kids BUT also cause massive issues socially, the violence they generate stalls economic growth because no Mexican or foreigner wants to invest in a drug corridor or a violent city, this, in turn, creates the conditions so that young able bodied adults can't provide good education for their children, and this repeats ad nauseaum.
The solution for government corruption involves making the government far more transparent than it currently is, employing technology to disclose the activities and spending of every local or federal government throughout mexico, the citizens should be able to access all this information in order to fight corruption and illegal siphoning of state resources. Also incorporating video recording for any law enforcement activity would reduce a lot of corruption in the police.
Drugs have to be legalized but the US won't let us do that
>my candidate of choice will surely turn things around this time
this is why this country is a shithole
>Drugs have to be legalized but the US won't let us do that
you are like a bitch complaining, blaming others, what a scumfag
I don't give a shit I'm tired of the same bullshit over and over from the same shitty political parties WHO ARE ONE BIG PART OF WHY WE ARE SO SHIT
I want a change and he's one,
Sorry but you're wrong. Mexico's only real problem is drug cartel having too much power, and the ones funding the drug cartels is noone else but USA. No US money = no mexican drug cartels.
I'm voting that crazy retard just because I want something different I know he won't fix shit but that's better than voting for the same shit over and over and over
It's like an entirely different world past Gilroy.
>Mexico's real problem is themselves
I agree with this. People here complain all the time about the government and insecurity, but never stop for a second to think where our government comes from and where our criminals come from; the answer is they come from Mexico.
People are just not educated, and the economic circumstances don't help much either.
This. Mexico City has always been the Achilles heel of Mexico.
I agree with everything you said, it's just sad sometimes though because every good person that's actually and could have made mexico better has either been kid napped or killed because of the corruption that goes on no side wants to lose power over the people so it's hard to defeat an enemy like that when their in almost constant control over everything.
How am I complaining?
Let's assume that politicians renounce their cartel bribes for a second, do you think the US will not threaten to cripple us economically, or even label us a narco state and subsequently invade us if we attempt to legalize drugs?
Do you honestly think the war on drugs we're having here is for the betterment of mexico? We aren't a big consumers of drugs, 'fighting' the cartels has more to do with ensuring the US' Christian moral is enforced, rather than actually fixing issues in Mexico.
Or maybe they're doing it so more people flee the country and they get their cheap labor, I'm not sure at this point.
this, but we're the only ones to blame. corruption seems to run through the veins of our people. Saddest thing is that with trump we have a chance at cleaning our corruption and we will miss it.
you sound like an ignorant person who hasn't been to mexico beyond Tijuana or Rosarito
My GF is from Jalisco and I've been to Guadalajara multiple times, it's nicer then 95% of the cities in Amierica, and it has more culture, better food, and everything there is dirt cheap.
If you make a good living there you can become incredibly rich, like her family, they sell furniture (As a manufacturer) and they own vast amounts of land, houses, and lots of land.
Get the fuck off your ass and go to Mexico, you will literally not want to comeback to SHIT Merica - that's the way I feel at least.
t. Paco Wetback
All the smart ones come here. The brain drain is killing the country. They should work with us on immigration for their own sake.
Yeah, I remember one time taking a Greyhound bus (never again) from Vegas to SF. The bus broke down around LA, we transferred to a different bus and the other bus went through the central valley and then came into the Bay Area from the east rather than the south. Somewhere around Modesto things turned from looking like a barren economically broken dystopia to looking like Star Trek The Next Generation, with nice cafes, raised highways on pylons, and clean people in dress shirts walking around. It left a big impression on me. Even in the modern world, big cities are like little dots of hypermodernity in a giant landscape given over to industrial agriculture and ruined useless small towns where every young person who can possibly get out, does.
t. Japanese American with a 149 IQ and Marketing Executive.
Get it right Virgin Faggot
>better than voting for the same shit over and over and over
not really
remember when Fox won? they are all after the same thing
dude, drugs sales are a motor of economy in Mexico, you dont know how many families live with that money, a lot of mexicans have deeply interest in drug business, not only politicians, i think is a bad thing of curse. we must realize this is the mayor barrier to stop the drug cartels.
Was independence from Spain really neccessary then? Spain kept the industrial base in Spain to keep you guys dependent on them where the american colonies had become self sufficient in their revolution.
>let me tell you what's wrong with you even though I have the exact same issues
Improve your own shithole amerisharts
>from Spain really neccessary then? Spain kept the industrial base in Spain to keep you guys dependent on them wh
the mayor promoter of independence were the criollos or the whites spaniards born in Mexico, the elite, very entiled,because they were considered lower than the born in Spain, want to get power, want to be powerful by themselves, no pay taxes to Spain.
>Stop the drug cartels
You make the drug cartels bigger the more you fight them
Let people cultivate, sell and consume drugs if they want to, persuade people you know to not consume, but don't "enforce" a prohibition, it just doesn't work, Lazaro Cardenas knew that a hundred years ago
The thing is we choose to live this way because whether you can understand it or not, we are one of the freest nations in the world. I can buy my way out of jail. I can go to the local market and buy a bootleg copy of the latest movie with a police officer next to me buying the same thing. I've seen a 60 yr old dude fuck get a hot as fuck 16 yr old pregnant and the family just accept it. All of those things combined and much more is why we accept the life we have. Try buying your way out of a ticket in the US and see where that gets you.
>Inb4 We would never do that.
If you had the option you would.
The next president should legalize drugs and make an effort to tax them and use those taxes to diversify agriculture. Also a deal could be made now that Trump is open to re-negotiate nafta that allows for local farmers to compete with US corporations. I'd ask for that in exchange for paying for some of the wall with drug money.