In the event that President Trump is removed from office and we have to have a civil war...

In the event that President Trump is removed from office and we have to have a civil war, what side will the military be on?

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I think it might be about even desu. A lot of people in the military are conservatives and would rather fight for a country that could be better for them than the liberal feminine cuckold nation that the left wants us to become

But at the same time there are also people that want a united america and wouldn't want to betray the USA

The right side.

Is there a way to ask them ahead of time so we know where we stand?

What about the generals etc? They will probably end up in control of the weapons. So what side will they be on?

The military will be whittled down by desertion, defection, massive battlefield casualties, and unable to replace losses as their pool of recruits dries up.

How would we get the weapons on our side?

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A lot would still consider their oath to the United States government sacred at initially. A lot less so as the conflict drags on.

The way most rebel armies obtain weapons, steal from the enemy, make our own, or foreign suppliers.

They will obviously side with Trump. If you actually listen, the military talked all about how Obama always suppressed what they wanted to do and even told them not to kill the fucking leader of ISIS when he was hiding out in Pakistan. Trump is letting them do their own fucking jobs.

both sides

The kind of weapons I'm talking about are the big ones: planes, armored vehicles, ships, etc.

We will need those, and we can't just make them or buy them.

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>melting pot
>civil war
pick one
You don't have enough honor and self-respect for civil war to occur. Mexicans really don't give a shit either, they just come if nobody stops them, they don't even bother learning English. What's more likely than civil war is you abandoning your city and migrating like Mexicans.

"Chatter" is happening & things are being planned(Leftists storming the Whitehouse & pulling a Gaddafi on Trump or The Whitehouse getting bombarded by Artillery hidden in Trucks 20-50 miles away from it).

[A "US Spring" into Coup/Civil War is planned for the US to take out Trump & his Admin.]

Leftist Networks(allied with Islamic Networks), Deep State/Shadow Government forces(Some of the Black Budget funds have went into an Army, designed for COG(Continuity of Government) situations) & Globalists(such as Soros) plan on doing a "Color Revolution" inside the US.

Learning/Researching how the Arab Spring & Ukraine was done is going to be quite helpful in/for the future.

The Deep State & Globalists are also going to cross each other when it's all over & with the US Imploded the NAU(North American Union) can then be formed.

This plan was going to happen regardless of who won the 2016 Election.

(Did KB's connected to all of this months ago: archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/113280345/#113280345 & archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/117550757/#117550757. They can be found in here: archive.4plebs.org/_/search/boards/pol.x/subject/Knowledge Bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/!!9O2tecpDHQ6/)

Also, Pedophile Operatives inside Governments/Agencies/Military’s will use "Deep Drive" CP to Compromise everyone (“Good Guys” & “Bad Guys”, Pedo’s are Evil that will spare no one) unless they are stopped beforehand. They will also try to start War(while also killing Trump’s admin as “revenge” for taking down the Pedo Networks) by say “Russia” put the CP on/in the computers. Pedo’s will use the confusion to hide, escape and/or claim “innocence”.

This is why I think we need the military on our side. If they side with Trump, the war could end relatively peacefully by overwhelming force.

And I think what the military does will depend on the generals.

So we need to know what they are thinking.

I would assume the war would be another attempt of southern succession, so if that is the case, we can assume that a good portion of the people fighting on the southern side are from one of the seceding states and/or people who vote republican. Those trends are the only way of determining who would be on which side

Again, depends on state of origin and the values set forth by each side. In the beginning a lot would probably be reluctant to betray the US but if they start losing then they will switch sides to their home side/desired cause

Last I heard the military leans conservative, and I strongly doubt that enough of them would actually take the order to begin attacking their own people back home. In addition to this, in the event of a Civil War, the reigning power (in this case whoever hypothetically usurps Trump) is immediately going to be marked as the bad guy. Eurocrats might secretly jack off to Trump being unlawfully removed but they'd probably not want to support either. On one hand the conservative rebels are racist sexist xenophobe patriarch biggot Nazis, on the other hand they also can't be seen to support an illegitimate tyrant who's attacking their own citizens for rejecting their undesired claim to power.

Say the Congress votes to impeach Trump.
Then Trump calls for a military coup to keep him in power.

Would the military do it?

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A US civil war would end quickly for the tyrant government either way because so many of the citizens are armed and outnumber the military by such a hilarious degree. In a civil war scenario the usurper government is literally surrounded on all sides by potential rebels from square one, and analyses of the civil war scenario would indicate that a majority of the military and even a significant portion of the civilian government would either covertly or overtly rebel as well.

If the government is made to believe that an overthrow of Trump would lead to civil war.
And the government is made to believe Trump's side would win the civil war.
That might persuade the government not to try to overthrow Trump.

But all of those expectations have to be put out there first to make the government hesitate.

Most likely they would go against Trump. It would be against the constitution to defend Trump and would be considered "tyranny". imo I think only fascists would help Trump, but there arent many of those in the military

If Trump is an actual traitor there won't be any civil war. Check it.

In the end, it all depends on what the military does. They have the final say.

And they might be persuaded that if the government tried to overthrow Trump, THAT was tyranny and fascism.

It all depends on who the military (especially the generals) see as the real enemy: Trump, or the government that tries to overthrow him.

For example, if the military were led to believe that Trump was overthrown because of a conspiracy of the "deep state," they might think their loyalty is actually to Trump, the real president, not to the spooks who tried to falsify his presidency.

So, what does the military think about the spooks? Do they see them as the good guys, or enemies within?

I feel like they would help Trump but it depends if someone throws them shekels

>what side will the military be on?
The winning side

There is also expectation of shekels in the future, so that they might fight for Trump not for shekels thrown at them while they are fighting, but because of expectation of shekels if they keep Trump in power, that is, if they win.

Yes, but it will be a regional war. No mason dixon line. County by county bloodbath (god forbid).
Red vs blue is the only border.
And yellow vs red and blue.

I am a former USAF Munitions System Specialist

Ready to to help the cause

It's important to have a target list that knocks out the top liberal financiers.

An American civil war would start with riots in San Fran and NYC, quickly spreading to other liberal strong holds but would ultimatly fal because of low numbers and low morale (look at the recent battle of Berkley for an example). What would happen is that the far leftist cucks in the rest of the world would "come to the aid of the oppressed American people" or some shit. That would cause all sorts of international alliances to trigger and crumble causing ultimately WW3.

TL;DR US Civil War 2 is WW3

It's literally over already. The south is more cucked than the yankees, and when you look at babies, minorities are alredy the majority

Despite the media & academia 's best efforts to lie, the majority of the USA are not crazy....and we don't love degenerate things as much as they do. That being said the cops & the military would have to pick sides or play it down the middle....

The kicker is that all the things that allow these foolish people to effectively lie and retain any amount of power will be immediately taken away once hostilities begin. Higher education? Gone. Disposable income for entertainment? Gone. Technology networks? Gone! The shooting war will the the least of anyone's worries......martial law will show these socialist, liberal, snowflakes the real meaning of hardship...but everyone will share the pain...its just that red necks & negroes are used to suffering....Famine & pestilence always follows war, why would we be any different?

MAGA

Those we steal from the U.S. military (there are quite a few armories and boneyards that are not adequately guarded) or get from abroad (Russia in particular is quite fond of selling surplus tanks)

That's assuming everyone rebels at once though, which generally isn't the case.

Trump and Trump supporters would lose sadly.
It's 3 against 1.
The Left, the establishment R's and the media against Trump and his supporters.

Now he won the above battle when it was a matter of civil politics and an election, but, the 3 foes weren't united at that time.
In a civil war, they would quickly unite and make deals about who gets the spoils and then get to work destroying Trump and his supporters.

Are ye daft?! Who in the left hunts? Or was willing to pu their life on the line by enlisting? And the media?? Who is going to watch them when there is no telecom service or internet? Are they armed? Do they know how to aim a stolen howitzer? Did they teach land nav in journalism school? Do you even know what a real war would cost america? It's all going to change after that....Good Lord.....foolishnes like your saying is why the left will have to rely on mercenaries or they are doomed...which is good for Us all actually

True, but it wouldn't take anywhere near every potential rebel to utterly hamstring the government.