The State of Jefferson is a proposed US state in Northern California (less prominent, but noticeable in Southern Oregon). The State was first proposed in 1941 and a movement quickly sprung up. However, due to the importance of WW2, the movement quickly died down. Many years later during the 90s, the movement resurfaced. As California began rearing towards a very left leaning blue state, more and more northern counties, fed up with being tossed out and disregarded by the Californian government, began the campaign once more to create the State of Jefferson. This will not only bring a conservative state to the west coast, but put a dent in the democrat stranglehold of California and the west coast in general. Since Oroville, the movement has exploded in popularity, making it the most vocal state separation movement in the US. (Note there is another secession movement in Southern California known as the "State of Jackson", however it is not nearly as prominent as the conservative led movement in Northern California).
My only regret is I have but one pepe to give for my statehood
Hunter Gomez
dude weed LMAO
Lincoln Moore
I would move there if it became a state
Nathaniel Carter
I'm stationed in MD but I haven't changed my citizenship to MD because I want to still vote in CA elections for this movement
Carter Clark
First heard about this when I moved to California in 2015 after going to Yosemite. I was at housekeeping camp when a big ass truck showed next to my tent with the big ass green flag on it, covered in Jefferson bumper stickers. After talking with the guy I think I like California again.
Christian Fisher
Some more recent articles that I forgot to mention:
Fuck lake County. Also, fuck the entire coast. It's nothing but immigrant Mexicans, faggots, meth heads, and pot and pot accessories.
Gabriel Powell
Agreed. The blues of the coast are quite idiotic.
Christian Mitchell
Agree to an extent. There's still a lot of people that support the movement there, and it's beautiful areas.
Blake Reed
yisss
Chase Wright
Placer county here, did I make the cutoff?
Daniel Wilson
Also, do we have a state constitution meme yet?
Parker Morris
The 2nd amendment was put in place to overthrow corrupt government. You reckon if we can't secede from CA peacefully we can take the governments in areas we need?
(not very educated on this issue)
Daniel Gray
Fuck off, we're full.
The Bear River is S o J's southern border.
Go hang out at the Galleria Mall with your shitty Roseville friends. We don't want you.
Love, Nevada County
Nathan Lewis
But I'm in Lincoln, the white conservative part of placer :(
Ethan Murphy
Ok, I'll help you over the fence, but don't tell anyone.
Blake Cox
Nigger a fuck ton of southern counties want to join. We will accept all the help we can get. Also you are a blue county.
Ethan Lee
i see lots of support from kern
Jonathan Sanders
Due to California's prop system, we can vote to leave. If a majority votes yes it then goes to the federal legislature over whether we become a state or not.
Jackson James
If it happened I would move there. Also, Support from Orange County .
Samuel Collins
awwww but i wanna fight the california government :(
Thomas Morris
Thanks. Lot's of support from the Southern California conservatives. I wouldn't be shocked to see a mass migration of conservatives to Jefferson from California if we separated.
Luke Butler
...and once you guys get your skinny asses up here, youll outnumber the Grass Valley hippy communes and turn this place red.
Get up here, son.
Lucas Howard
Placer, El Dorado, Amador, Calaveras, Tuolumne, Mariposa, and Stanislaus are all a part of the movement now. In fact 5 of the 7 I mentioned have been here since 1992. Sorry to put a thorn into your dreams.
Andrew Bell
Not sure how that puts any thorns anywhere, but thank you.
Austin Bailey
Support you guys from Wake County, NC.
Hope you guys get independence.
Jace Bennett
there will surlely be riots and rebellion from the liberals.
Sebastian Ramirez
Thank you. Appreciated.
Lucas Clark
Fuck em. We have more guns. We can put them down real quick like if they try to attack us.
Jordan Allen
What are they gonna do, yell at us? Idiots are afraid of guns.
Xavier Adams
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Jeremiah Hughes
STOP ASKING PEOPLE TO BUMP THE THREAD
Benjamin Nelson
Why are those red counties on the eastern border not included? The ones right below the green counties
Anthony Taylor
And then all you Jefferson pieces of shit would cry about all the "Californians" moving north.
You think so cal conservatives are the same racist, xenophobic, 4X4-driving, white trash Hicks as in the north counties?
Hudson Bailey
alpine and mono county are not red. Theyre blue.
Cameron James
Hi White Bros
Ryder Mitchell
SoCal liberals really do move through out the west and take their values with them. Its noticeable here in Washington their politics and culture being noticeably different. t. Lived in Washington State for 12 years
Nolan Brown
Red in the OP picture, but ok so they vote Democrat mostly
Joshua Campbell
Considering thats the thing you respond with a valid point, I assume you either dont live here, or are a huge left leaning person. Or a person LARPing as someone from the left.
Ryan Bailey
Sad though. They would be our link to conservative counties in the south. But then the state would get too large.
Jordan Martin
>conservative northern California shit, I might be tempted to move.
Kayden Reyes
Its quite beautiful up here.
Jacob Scott
Just remember, when we become a state, Jefferson takes 83% of California's water with it.
Christian Myers
>tfw Nevada controls the other half
Aaron Lee
Don't live there, but I spend many of my days there. Know plenty of people from there.
I am left leaning on many things (gays, abortion, atheism, pot, consumer protection).
But right on other things (guns, immigration, affirmative action, tough on crime).
I have to look good and hard to find a Confederate flag once I pass south of the Sacramento County border. As conservative as Placer county is, I dont think I've seen them across the back windows of many trucks. Laborers north of Sacramento might be more likely to have "White Pride" or swastika tattoos than a conservative from southern California.
Eli Gonzalez
Water rights are controlled at the Federal level, user.
Adrian Ross
Ironically, the Calexit movement refers to us as radicals, and yet they want to separate from the Union.
Lincoln Sanders
Indeed. And if California tries to secede then we block all their water.
Grayson Adams
Plumas county checking in. Ready to kill niggers, spics, and fags for freedom!
Jaxson Stewart
bump
Thomas Brooks
split the bitch in three.
Dominic Carter
I don't think that's how it works.
Now, if you were talking about the lefties who want to secede either all, or just the liberal parts of California from the Union, then you might be on to something. Because I don't think Shasta and Oroville water will be pumped into the Central Valley and State Water Projects to supply a foreign nation
Blake Clark
>Don't live there.
I have lived here for a while. I have been to nearly all the counties up here and have been to many small towns and communities. So once you generalize all of us as those kind of things because of *lol I see more confederate flags* then you are a fucking dumbass.
Kayden King
Truthfully, you are both radicals.
Lincoln Perry
You didnt read my response apparently.
Levi Diaz
>Radical
Yes, a moderate who wants more representation and less taxation and wants to escape the abuse of rural communities by the Californian legislature is a radical.
David Hughes
What needs to happen for this place to legally become a state? I assume that the people I'm the area would support the idea, but Congress would be very tough to get by.
Jacob Barnes
Sounds pretty rad to me.
Liam Stewart
A proposition to pass by majority vote by the counties. Then it goes to majority vote in the federal legislature, which is controlled by republicans.
Christian Garcia
I remember reading that there has been a vote already, but was it unofficial?
Robert Rodriguez
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Joshua Foster
I'm so fucking glad a successful thread about this subject is finally alive. We shall conquer the west coast just as we did in the past. We will rid it of the modern day Indians, the Democrats.
Jose Rodriguez
supreme court has to be nuclear tier trump loyalists and trump has to WANT THIS to get loyal jurors to allow Jefferson to secede without invoking the constiJEWtion keeping white californians from political representation in California.
t. Jeffersonian
Benjamin Sanders
It was a declaration of secession from California. However a prop vote must go through in order for this to be achieved.
Jackson Watson
Ok, so what do you need to get the vote going? If money is an issue I'm sure that half the country would be willing to donate something to your cause. I sure would.
Parker Stewart
Realistically what are the chances that this happens
Jack Brown
>tfw my precious SLO county can't make it into Jefferson
It's the whitest county south of Jefferson, a shame that I may live to see it completely browned
Jason James
There actually is a donations page on the official website: soj51.org We need signatures from 5% of Jefferson's population to officially send the prop for it to be accepted.
Grayson Garcia
Not very high. Maybe it could happen at the same time as Calexit. Two birds one stone.
Dominic Butler
>What are they gonna do, yell at us? Idiots are afraid of guns. They're convinced they state police and Nasty Girls will crush us like ripe grapes. Even the 'conservatives' among them think so. They're so full of their own effortless power and license it's terrifying.
Nathaniel Kelly
Fuckin A yes Jefferson is a good idea. But we need to keep penryn. Got family n land down there. Someday it'll be mine, n I'll be goddamned if I wanna be part of fuckin socal. Nevada county is still pretty fuckin white. N GV is still little Germany. If only ICE would come to town n take the hippies, also, I'd be a happy camper.
Logan Diaz
It's growing every day. It's to the point now where it would be more realistic to pass through the federal legislature as opposed to Puerto Rico. Getting it there is the problem.
Luke Perry
Not to high, but it's not a pipe dream. Unlike the calexit thing, they aren't looking to leave the union, and they have a willing populace. The willing populace is the key issue, and if they keep bitching it could happen eventually.
Austin Lewis
See
Jacob Myers
are we voting for calexit so when the time comes we can split up cuckfornia and add the conservative state of jefferson?
Connor Williams
Ok, well I'm not in Jefferson, but I will probably donate. Good luck!
Julian Wood
I grew up in Shasta Co. This debate has been going on forever now..I would love to see it happen but wouldnt think Humboldt and Mendocino counties would join up desu.. meh I live on Cape Cod now anyways
Elijah Gray
Yes, I forgot saying that the hippies and far leftists and the coast are idiotic means that Im a racist xenohphobic yada yada yada.
Brayden Gutierrez
I really do enjoy the scenery up here.
Grayson Long
Know, but according to you, you are a dumbass.
Elijah Foster
Jackson is a better name than Jefferson, imo
Let me know how non-cali fags can help
Jack Young
I dont get it.. all these northern farmers in the areas depend on illegal Mexicans for labor.. people of Jefferson are not conservative republicans. More like libertarians liberals who shit on democrats and republicans
Mason Cruz
Thank God my shitty county makes falls within Jefferson. I really doubted it coming south of Sac. Mexicans will start bailing for the PR of Kalifornia and we will have the peace ful pristine farmland my grandparents told us about.
Ian Long
Incorrect. I have already stated that my time here has been for years and I know the people over there. Many of the leftists are idiots, and I have seen it firsthand especially around Humboldt and Mendocino. Given that I have years of experience I come to the conclusion. You however do not.
Josiah Hall
Stanislaus?
Christopher Phillips
No we fucking aren't, faggot.
Jeremiah Wilson
That is very very incorrect.
Michael Davis
Western New York has the same issue with NYC and other downstate libs. NYS would be swing red without the garbage that is NYC.
Brandon White
Here's theoretical for you: The civil war decided states can't secede from the union, but what about seceding from a state? For instance, could the people of Kansas City secede from Kansas and Missouri to form their own state? Could Illinois be divided up to handle their bankruptcy? As long as the people in the seceding area are willing, do they have the right?
Easton Turner
The constitution states that with the consent of the state and federal governments, a state can be formed. This would normally be a problem, however due to California's (and I think Illinois) proposition system in which citizens propose and vote in their own legislature, the consent can be bypassed in California with a simple majority vote in the counties involved.
Henry Bailey
Yes sir. ModestoFag.
Christian Jackson
Well welcome to the party I guess. It's always nice to have more support.
Juan Wood
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Jaxon Martinez
THE ONLY WAY THIS WILL HAPPEN IS IF YOU GET TRUMP TO TALK ABOUT IT! WE MUST GET TRUMP TO TALK ABOUT IT.
Joshua Powell
It is true that we need a high profile person to draw attention. That would be the best way to get support quickly.
Daniel Jenkins
Yah I am in stanislaus. I was surprised to see it in the pic.
Trying to get my parents to move out of CA, jefferson or not.
Camden Green
I don't think any state would allow it though. Obviously no one would kill each other but losing anywhere means losing tax money. Still though it's fun to imagine. The Feds would absolutely have to get involved
Lincoln Murphy
More support is being rounded up from Stanislaus from restricted water rights put onto the farmer populace of the central valley.
