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>unions
>2017

>Workers vote for subservience to their corporate masters
Yeah, so fucking based

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BASED NIGS

>Workers vote to cut out a useless entity in the modern workforce that only leads to animosity between staff and corporate leadership, offers no tangible benefits and forces them to pay dues for little to no return
FTFY

its called right to work . why join a union i get held hostage if the union bosses feel as they are not getting all the money they want then im fucked no thanks

This is what corporate serfs actually believe.

>michigan
>GM plant non-union starting wage 14/hr
>same starting wage as 1970
I am against unions but still wtf

What are robots and (((free trade)))

pretty sure bernie sanders came down here trying to push this shit. you can imagine what kind of impression this might have made on a bunch of rednecks

Hopefully they fire everyone in that picture. Although I bet they are flown in profession agitators.

>Everyone I disagree with is a 'professional agitator'
Curious, but do you fap in front of a mirror?

Sup Forums is redpilled on a lot of things but the union hate is retarded.

Why do you think Johnny Monoxide and Bulbasaur haven't been fired from their jobs even after it came to light they are full 14/88?

Their unions wont allow it.

Unions take your dues and donate them to the democratic party, who enact laws that force you to pay your dues...

just a quick reminder that thanks to democrat immigration policies, unions have absolutely no power now.

thats actually elegantly solved by switching to another private union.

That's the usual case, but I remember Trump was endorsed by the coal unions. Aside from that though there should just be legislation that forbids unions from making political donations, I know that' what paleocons like Pat Buchanan suggested

Unions also won't allow workers being rewarded for individual input, terminating bad workers, individual promotions and overtime, etc.

Two fuckers not being fired in spite of 1488 is nothing compared to keeping a host of bad workers because they're diverse.

Probably because Nissan said, "Look, nigger, Canton is a shithole. You nigs are lucky we let you build these trucks. Keep talking this union shit and you can go back to playing basketball and rapping while we move this shit to Alabama".

The slave mindset is pretty deeply ingrained even after all these years.

More than likely because MS is a shithole with the exception of a few places. I can't think of any real economic opportunities except working at the casinos north of there or maybe going to Jackson and working for the state.

True, though the idea of coerced working conditions through the lack of viable economic alternatives is what some classical libertarian philosophers might classify as a form of 'wage slavery'.

Yes, and the solution to that is to automate everything so there are no jobs left.

Mississsippi fag here. The general opinion among the workers at Nissan is this:

If we unionize, the plant will close down within 5 years.

I don't know if that can be considered a 'solution', it's just an inevitability and people need to decide how they're going to deal with it. Even mass traditional unionisation will be of limited help there.

Heighten the contradictions and it will hasten the resolution.

Most likely, we will just follow the George Guidestones.

unions ruined australia.

AWOO AWOO AWOO

Unions only reduce the amount of employment in a given area.

we have several nissan plants in tennessee, even corporate offices are here.
one plant has been here over 30 years and is still pumping out non-union vehicles.
gm built the saturn plant here, over 5bn $, as soon as the uaw got back in the plant basically shut down.

Redpill me on unions. Are they anti corporate or lazy fuck enablers?

if your getting paid fair wages and treated well, then theres no need to unionize. idk what the situation is though

I live in Smyrna where one of those Nissan plants is located.

I worked at Bridgestone/Firestone both at the Laverne and Mcmeinville plants.
Bridgestone is one step from shutting down, it's been union for years and they suffer greatly because of it.

Unions allow workers to work in their own interests against owners.

If you are a worker, that is: someone pays you, and you don't want unionization you are acting against your own interests.You think like the boss to better their position instead of your own.

Being an anti-union worker is akin to saying "I don't want my boss to be responsible for workers (me) because I plan to be a boss one day"

Not necessarily against the idea of unions, but they're outmoded today, unless Trump cracks down on illegal immigration and undoes NAFTA and/or imposes tariffs on foreign goods. The balance of power is just too far shifted against unions for them to really be feasible.

white woman in the front and center as usual

Leftie fags btfo hahahahahahaha

Unions serve a purpose, but it would be much better if all existing unions (sans trade unions) were dissolved and reformed.

Right to work is shite, once the unions are starved out due to parasitical employees enjoying benefits while not paying dues, the companies will slash wages and bennies and a good place to work won't be good anymore.
It is possible to be both conservative and pro-union.

>Waaaahhhhh! Why cant I force someone to join my union? How dare the boss and new employee agree to work a certain wage.YOU CANT DO THAT. YOU NEED A UNION TO NEGOTIATE FOR U

AFL-CIO is trying to get me to join them. They pushed a bunch of coupons and discount price stuff on me to join and made a whole bunch of promises. I chose not to join, I said I would just leave the company if things got bad.

Local 3 Ibew member here

Literally cannot wait for all unions to crash and burn.

All members are blue pilled and deserve no where near a six figure salary

Little of both. Mostly the latter.

Check out the Chrysler union scandal that's developing. Union bosses embezzled hundreds of millions.

Union greed destroyed Detroit. Auto workers don't want to make the same mistake twice.

This. I come from a Chrysler town and unions absolutely killed the calf. Degenerate rednecks literally making 100k ca 2000 to drive a forklift.

jews agitating blacks in the South for their marxist or financial agendas has been going on for 150 years.

>unions

>I'm union because I care about good blue collar jobs
>votes democrat

Why are unionfags so bluepilled

>Gimme gimme gimme more more more!
Then they wonder why their auto manufacturing jobs move to Mexico.

i know a union worker that says he just reads his union contract looking for ways to get out of work or file a grievance
i am not even exaggerating either
union workers are the blacks of blue collar labor

I also forgot, the other reason I won't join AFL-CIO is the fact that there are way too many niggers. They had some niggress try and recruit people and the only people she got was other nigs.

fuck yes, another win for the (((corporations)))

we're almost there guys, we can do it

>democrats want regulation out the ass on big business AND want unions literally EVERYWHERE
LOL get fucked

>Unions also won't allow workers being rewarded for individual input, terminating bad workers, individual promotions and overtime, etc
This.

Want to know why Bombardier performs poorly? Union. They cost the company billions a year.

This current unions are fucking corrupt and useless. Unions were put in place to defend workers but at this point and time they only act as a parasitic middleman that does nothing but leeching union dues from your paycheck.

If modern day unions ACTUALLY FUCKING CARED ABOUT THEIR WORKERS THEY WOULDNT HAVE ALL PUSHED FOR OBAMACARE.

Unions served a purpose when people were treated like shit, wages were low, and employees were treated like literal plantation slaves ("company store"). Fast forward to the 1960's when the mafia and politcal establishments abused the union to help launder money for these criminal organizations and the Democratic party. GM was the first American company crushed by unions. Pension liabilities and the like became too much for a company like GM to bear, and eventually they ran out of cash and went essentially bankrupt. I am from a small town in Indiana (Anderson). Anderson used to be a great place to live. GM was the primary employer and the average income for a family was around 65k. Then came the unions whining about everything. Then came the Japanese automakers that made a decent product without all the overhead. Then came NAFTA, allowing GM to close these local factories and move them to Mexico and Brazil. Then came the pension liabilities for the unions that crushed an already weakened GM. The higher ups in the plants all knew this was coming, as GM only had so much in liquid assets to cover their obligations to the unions (this was in 99), but couldn't get off the union to because the Democratic party in Madison county was utterly dependent on their money to fund their political campaigns. Fast forward to now. Anderson is a complete shit hole. Most people with any sense moved to Noblesville or Fishers. The plants (GM, Delphi, Guide Lamp, DRA) are all bulldozed and gone. The population has dropped off by over 30k people. The average income is now 35k per family. The city has to spend millions in infrastructure to bring in a Nestle plant that was supposed to employ 3000 people at a wage of 15+ per hour, but instead employs 300 at a base wage of 11.50 per hour. I wish that fat tub of lad Michael Moore would come back a visit to see what a shit hole his idea of a union Utopia has turned Anderson Indiana into.

I find it pretty hilarious that Democrat pushed through NAFTA, which COMPLETELY gutted union power. You cannot have a union succeed in any industry where it's possible to just pick up the plant and move it to a non-union country where nobody has to put up with your bullshit demands any longer.

The only places unions survive still are teachers and government employees.

>workers
But I only see one protestor. Here's a better use for that "s":

S

>be a good worker
>put in extra 10% effort in work
>get rewarded by getting paied less than the mentally handicapped on the other side of the factory who can only be trusted with stacking boxes and regularly gets sent home early because he shits his pants simply because he has been there longer and has paied enough union dues

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all these fucking union haters in this thread need to shut the fuck up if you actually aren't working in a sector that isn't predominately dominated by union shops (electricians, engineers, warehousing, production, plumbers, etc etc). shut the fuck up. not all unions are fucking dishonest but all of them are mafias, it's no different from any other racket. It's true. They have power and if you're in a better union they'll let you use it when it's your time.
Yes, I can see the fact that unions detract from the individual worker as well, because some guys are bound to be lazier slackers, but I can also imagine a modern world without (some of the good) unions and it looks shitty.
If your rep is shitty expect to get fucked, we used to work consecutive weeks(2) at a company with no doubletime compensation, and a regular six day work week(>10hr days).
You pussies never worked like that, which brings me to my point of shutting the fuck up

Could it be any more obvious that (((pol))) is a GOP establishment billionaire globalist shill board?

>Not all

So be subservient to some commie collective who skims off the top instead?

Except unions have literally killed entire sectors of our economy.

please redpill me on this im confused

Those were the weak sectors, you are stronger without them.

Conservashits tell me the free market knows best

Free market shipped conservashits jobs overseas

Really makes me think.

>THEY WEREN"T A REAL UNION
>WE JUST HAVE TO TRY UNIONS MY WAY

where have i ever heard this line of rational before?

Where is your proof, otherwise you are talking out of your ass

People starting to realize that now? Yeah, the shills are so fucking obvious.

DETROIT
TWINKIES

No I've been saying it for a long time.

>working 10+ hours a day is tough
Nigger shut up lol. I've worked jobs that were 12 hours a day 6 a week.

>Left hand scale 10-30%
>Right hand scale 44-54%

REEEEEEE

Wow you sure showed him with that impeccable, fact-driven comeback.

or you know be in military and your work never fucking ends and you get paied like shit

More like a Mongolian Nudist Paragliding Forum

>you are acting against your own interests

Hello democrat

Unions did such a great job keeping domestic automakers and Detroit competitive with the Japanese, I just can't imagine why these people would reject the UAW.

I was in a union for a few years. The people who worked there actually mad money while I made less than 35K a year. They didn't give half a shit about me and I was a good employee. Told me I had to wait 4 years to get a real raise because of "The Pay-ladder" and that the union and company signed in the middle of the night. Most corrupt union I have ever seen.

>this is what leftypol actually believes

Holy shit

Are you implying that the other two posters were making verifiable evidence-backed statements?

>80% nigger workers
>whites are all high up in hierarchy
I guess niggers are just too damn stupid to understand why they might need union

>someone else gets capital together
>uses it to build some means of production
>hires people to man the operations, FOR PAY
>invited guests band together and start a labor racket
>YOU DIDNT BUILD THAT
>plant moves to chyna

Did you not pay attention to the US auto industry?

Did they vote against union or against UAW mobsters?

It's a Tibetan Scull-stacking forum

Im going out on a limb here. Maybe none of them have a job.

You mean the people that made inferior cars?

Both. Plus the Chinese cars are coming to employee Americans, so no need for unions with that much competition for employees.

>We're going to fight for your interests and protect you from your boss.
>Now pay us or you're fired.

Except the auto biz is still in biz.

Nothing killed

Reagan dedicated his presidency to killing the unions and shipping jobs overseas.

That's why Republicans worship him.

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The only way they work is by exploiting the scarcity of labour
>Strikes cause plant shutdowns
>Plant shutdowns lose money (lots)
>Therefore plant owners are incentivised to avoid shutdowns by paying attention to union demands

This is all fine and dandy in a restricted labour market, but NAFTA basically allows plant owners to build wherever the fuck they want - and guess what, they build where there's not the hassle of unionized labour.
In the US, unions are a protection racket without the protections.

All of those people actually work for the union. Last place I worked at; every union employee was black. They all made like 60K while we made 30K

The one Obama saved?

more like what are niggers and mass immigration

Yes I hear Detroit is flourishing.

fucking sneaky jews