Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
communism does nothing but hurt the people they claim to protect even a stupid as fuck kid like you knows that. but all that teenage angst and edge pulls you towards it because you dont want to work for your bread. you want it handed to you so you can spend your time fucking around on Sup Forums and tumblr and twitter goodthink groups saying how oppressed your sexuality and made the fuck up gender is while my people get fucked over again and again by faggots like you claiming to want "true equality" fuck you and your lying sack of shit political ideology
Nicholas White
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Cooper James
>and twitter goodthink groups saying how oppressed your sexuality Fuck off that degeneracy is a product of Western Capitalism.
Sexuality in Communism is don't ask don't tell. You are thinking about liberals not Communists.
Cameron Brown
Death to communism.
Lucas Sanders
i'm hungry
Cameron Wright
Allah hates communists.
Jackson Bell
no I'm thinking of communists. liberals ACTUAL liberals give a shit about freedom of speech and fair treatment.
Logan Cox
Yo that's so funny, even when your a national socialist dawg. Haha
Grayson Anderson
Jesus hates communist too
Jose Ross
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage 4 Nod real gommunism. Nexzt gountry :DD
Brody Richardson
just like a fucking communist to pull away from a argument he is losing, how about you kil off all your leadership again and start over? im sure it will work this time.
Brandon Diaz
I challenge any commies to refute these:
>the LTV The LTV is one of the cornerstones of Marxist economic thought, upon which rests the claim that porky will continually steal more and more wages from the working class, and communist revolution is "inevitable". One requirement for the LTV to be true is that machines can't produce more than they cost--silly, right!?!? Marx justifies this by saying that machines and physical capital depreciate in value equal to the amount of value they produce--all the rest of the surplus value is added by the human working the machine. This is ridiculous and trivially falsified: suppose that two machines produce totally different things, but require exactly the same input from the worker, but produce two things whose values are very different--say, for example, one that makes pencils, and one that rolls cigarettes (suppose that their rate of production is 2 cigarettes per pencil). Now, one of these machine+human teams adds more value than the other, but somehow we are to believe that the difference in surplus value is because of the human working the machine, according to Marx, not the machines themselves.
>post scarcity Communism, the "ideal" society, is a post-scarcity society, which is why everyone can seemingly work as little as they want and get as much free shit as they "need", according to commies. Unfortunately, post-scarcity is a priori impossible because there are a finite amount of resources and humans will always compete for them.
Chase Collins
You are a nigger, either a house or a field nigger, and when master tells you "Communism is against niggers, I'm the only one who can look out for y'all niggers" you are like "Yes master, me be a good nigger"
Go fuck yourself faggot.
Bentley Diaz
>From each according to the government, to each according to the government Communists tout that their ideal system is highly democratic, and indeed, the commie system of production (if it were possible--see ">post scarcity") would be essentially a democracy, one person one vote, with perhaps some elected representatives with more power. This of course is a perfect "tragedy of the commons" scenario--nobody has any personal responsibility for their vote, and everybody wants MORE. It is hard to imagine a situation like this ending any other way than what's happening in Italy, Greece, Portugal, and Spain, who perhaps have the most democratically-controlled economies on earth.
Easton Thomas
>how about you kil off all your leadership again and start over? I'll kill off the house niggers who suck masters cock first. Then I'll kill the master.
William Moore
>says the one advocating the ultimate cuck SJW egalitarianism
Aaron Green
>I'll kill off the house niggers who suck masters cock first. Then I'll kill the master. I'm ure you will, tought guy.
Christian Moore
>first says he doesnt care about what a nigger thinks >calls him a house nigger for disagreeing with him
fucking pick one you pinko faggot. thats the exact point i made before, your whole ideology is built on fucking lies and backstabbing. and here you are contradicting yourself when you are on the backpedal
Dylan Stewart
>KILL! KILL! KILL! >LE EBUL PORKY! I'M A HATEMONGER BUT I'VE DONE THE MENTAL ACROBATICS TO MAKE MY MURDEROUS HATRED SEEM JUSTIFIED AND RIGHTEOUS!
From each according to ability to each according to need.
I'm talking about controlling the means of production not faggots and their feels.
Parker Cruz
>a fucking cartoon pig And you faggots expect anyone to take your retarded political ideology seriously
Brandon Cook
>I'm talking about controlling the means of production how about you produce something instead of just stealing from people who do that?
William Hernandez
I don't give a fuck about what a house nigger thinks. I'll delete the first post because my problem is with house niggers and my first post doesn't clearly indicate that.
Also you are a house nigger. And you keep coming to our threads. At least change your flag every once in a while.
Noah Sanders
>faggots and their feels >implying commies aren't just a bunch of jealous greedy insecure faggots who justify their feels by believing in communism
Leo Gutierrez
im not a fucking house nigger, if i was id agree with you "massa" without question. Odd to find a nigger that can think for himself huh? really throws a fucking wrench in your special ideology
Lucas Peterson
ITT usefull idiots of jews vs useless niggers of jews
Jaxson Robinson
>I dont give a fuck then why you reply to him? that is opposite of what anybody mentally healthy would do
Luke Jenkins
kikes are just white people with more greed, all i want is for blacks to have their own nations and for whites to have their own without meddling in each others business. the world would work a whole lot better if we all stuck to our own
Isaac Long
>And you keep coming to our threads. Aw, does shitposting pinko want a safe space?
>At least change your flag every once in a while. You first.
Mason Barnes
>im not trying to debate >im here to meme lmao good work for the worker's revolution comrade.
Levi Garcia
How about you build economy based on something else than exporting cheap labor to the rest of the EU look at picture
Austin Sanchez
>How about you build economy based on something else than exporting cheap labor to the rest of the EU as compared to communism where its cheap labor of its own people. so cheap in fact they starve. nice argument
Leo Thomas
>LOOK AT THESE TWO CHERRY PICKED ARTICLES >THEY REFUTE YOUR HARD POINTS
Dominic Phillips
>people's nostalgic opinions prove western imperialist pig "data" wrong! look at picture
Daniel Hernandez
>if i was id agree with you "massa" without question. I ain't your "massa", I'm telling you we should be equal, but we can't be because you will die to protect the master I want to hang. U wot m8?
Liam Reed
how about you build any economy based on not stealing from sattelite states?
Jace Morris
so im only a good nigger if i do what you want. Sounds a lot like a fucking slave owner to me
Angel Green
I'm a capitalist. Eat shit, we're richer than you, faster than you, and more important than you
Christopher Diaz
and most importantly, not retarded satanists brainwashed by jews
Joshua Taylor
>so im only a good nigger if i do what you want No you are only a good nigger if you do what "massa" wants.
You can do whatever the fuck you want to, but you've been arguing for your "massa" the whole time and that's why I'll keep calling you a house nigger.
Dylan Richardson
>You can do whatever the fuck you want to Does that mean he can own means of production?
Gavin Ortiz
who the fuck is my master that you keep referring to? a functional form of government where the one in charge looks after his own people? because that's what i want and thats what i support. the problem with that is, your ideology is completely against ANY views or governments that don't match your own. so in effect that makes you "superior" to others.
Do you feel like you need to save niggers? do you think we cant do it on our own? what a hypocrite
>who the fuck is my master that you keep referring to? The guy who told you communism makes you starve.
Aaron Sanders
I agree with the man in that video. in fact I am a National Socialist. Just not a white one, maybe you need to do research on what national socialism is and was, hell while youre at it, do research on your own ideology and its history. name a country that was communist that wasnt poor as fuck, having people starve to death, oppressed anyone who thought different, and interfered with other nations it had no right messing with.
go on I'll fucking wait for you.
William Stewart
His master is truth and reality?
Carson Rivera
so me?
Nolan Cooper
Communism sucks.
Discussion complete
Gavin Nelson
Communism is an ideology for children who can't accept the reality of the world.
The resources of the earth aren't distributed according to what is moral; they are distributed according to who has the power to take them. You need to invoke an all powerful, all knowing deity to subvert this inviolable rule of nature.
Landon Morgan
funny that the only way it can work is with religion, which they historically outlaw.
Blake White
They make the state their deity and worship it as a god.
Ryan Gutierrez
because that fucking works. congrats on controlling the people you "free" with literal brainwashing
Gabriel Howard
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Robert Phillips
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Jace Anderson
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Justin Robinson
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Robert Anderson
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Elijah Scott
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Justin Murphy
I better be getting a real thought out and long response since you haven't listed a single one yet.
Cameron Morales
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Jayden Torres
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Aiden Foster
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Jason Brooks
>enslaving people with pro-state propaganda so that they accept their inevitable starvation death is somehow better than telling people to be free and make their own decisions, which is also somehow brainwashing.
The level of ridiculous mental gymnastics you reddit fags try is insane.
Caleb Wright
Ok then I'll call you crazy from now on, all though you do harbor house nigger beliefs.
You didn't get the idea that Communism starves everyone on your own, Communism is about sharing with the hungry not making them starve.
You think everyone is a piece of shit who will only work because he hopes to exploit others. That's what "massa" wants you to believe.
Communism created unprecedented industrial growth and put the first man in space. Because people can cooperate for the greater good even when not expecting to be as rich as Kayne West. You really think society works better with a sky god threatening weak people with eternal suffering than people doing their best based on a logical understanding of cooperation and human development?
Ian Wilson
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Parker Smith
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Blake Gomez
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Alexander Brown
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Colton Long
prostate isnt the same as worshiping a leader as a god. And ive never heard of a national socialist government starving its people until its been destroyed by outside invaders. Commies on the other hand do it on the daily like its going out of style
Xavier Martin
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Elijah Scott
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Elijah Jackson
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Dominic James
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Robert Davis
Well sorry that I want to "brainwash" you into being a good person who does good things for your community without expect better things to happen to you in return.
How can you honestly argue that being a Christian because you are afraid of hell is better than being a Christian because being a good person in itself is worth it?
Joshua Bennett
Fick off to Venezuela , or 1960s USSR.
Brandon Collins
Holy shit, my bad, I completely misread your comment, thought you were the retarded commie.
Anthony Ramirez
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Angel Ross
>a man grows a potato >another man sits around >man who grew the potato is forced to share it with the man that did nothing
yeah, thats totally not exploiting workers is it?
David Reyes
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Hudson Barnes
>Communism created unprecedented industrial growth *kickstarted by western capitalists because lol, killing everyone that knows how to work a factory is a bad idea. princeton.edu/~ota/disk3/1979/7918/791812.PDF
>Lenin’s New Economic Policy, which came into effect after 1921, had as its central mechanism of technology transfer the granting of concessions to Western entrepreneurs. Technical assistance contracts, the employment of foreign engineers and experts in the U. S. S. R., and the dispatch of Soviet experts to training positions in the West were also utilized. Over 200 concessions were made to foreign firms between Lenin’s death and the first 5-year plan. While Soviet literature downgrades the contributions of foreign technology transfers accomplished through this medium, it is clear in retrospect that much of the rapid growth of the 1920’s was dependent on foreign operative and technical skills
Ethan Hall
> And ive never heard of a national socialist government starving > Commies on the other hand do it on the daily like its going out of style Be honest with yourself you "heard" commies starve people, you've never actually seen it.
Benjamin Flores
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Anthony Myers
I appreciate all of these.
Landon Lopez
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Charles Torres
>Well sorry that I want to "brainwash" you into being a good person who does good things for your community without expect better things to happen to you in return. Do you necessarily need communism to do that?
Aiden Flores
u welcome fren
Xavier Baker
>yeah, thats totally not exploiting workers is it? That's exploiting the worker. The guy who doesn't work shouldn't eat
You should share the potato with a grandmother who is old and can't work on the fields growing potatoes.
Christopher Phillips
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Justin Davis
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Gabriel Morales
that argument can be made for national socialism or anything else. well i didn't see it so it didn't happen is how people get fucked over in the first place. you just look away and say it never existed. only a child uses that argument when he has nothing else to back it up
Brody Nelson
this thanks for the bumps
Adrian Moore
>You should share the potato with a grandmother who is old and can't work on the fields growing potatoes. Again, do you need communism to do that?
