COMMUNISM GENERAL - TOO LAZY, NEED PREPACKAGED IDIOLOGY EDITION

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/a-group-of-middle-aged-american-whites-is-dying-at-a-startling-rate/2015/11/02/47a63098-8172-11e5-8ba6-cec48b74b2a7_story.html
archive.is/Urcrt
archive.is/y5Pr8
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gommies.gom/starve/
gommies.gom/ohfugme/
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/
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gommunism fug :DDDD :DD :D
sadge X-DDDD :DD

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Daily Dose:
youtu.be/aG1Jd3PF-JU

Based communists representing on Sup Forums

>Alexander "muh 66 gorrilion, bolshevik" Solzhenistyn

There is literally zero (0) difference between SJW "idpol" and leftism. None. look at /leftypol/; what tried to be about idpol-less leftism just reverted back to the average faggy commie forum as redditors flooded in. It's because leftists' belief of "systems" and critical theory will ALWAYS lend itself back to whining about white men, with no variations. Stop deluding yourself.

Reminder that his own wife called him a liar and said his stories were exaggerated

>Is a communist
>United states flag

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You still haven't disproved those claims yet faggot

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tfw gommunism is why i never met my grandpa.

>t.Lithuanian living in Denmark

:^)

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>make an unsubstantiated assertion
>expect it be disproven, instead of getting called a dumbass
Follow your leader.

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I've already proven that Marx and Lenin have Jewish blood in them, you're just dodging the point because you know damn good and well you can't refute it

Holy shit, and you make fun of us for paranoid schizophrenic jpg-artifact-riddled infographs?

I honestly hope socialism never wins in USA, because it would save USA, and it doesn't deserve to be saved.

>45 thousand americans die from lack of access to healthcare
>another 50 thousand file for bankruptcy from medical bills

Also from last thread
>According to a study conducted in late April by the U.S. Department of Education and the National Institute of Literacy, 32 million adults in the U.S. can't read. That's 14 percent of the population. 21 percent of adults in the U.S. read below a 5th grade level, and 19 percent of high school graduates can't read

>I honestly hope socialism never wins in USA, because it would save USA, and it doesn't deserve to be saved.
Dam, never thought about it that way

i hate gommunism... they killed my grandpa cuz neighbor was jelious and made up some stuff, told on kgb that he says stalin is pig or whatever wtf.

How does one graduate highschool while being illiterate?

Holy shit how can cappies defend this lmao.

why are all social justice fags commies then?

really made me think Enrique the fat Spanish NEET

>niggers can't read

tell us something we don't know tankie LARPers, they are subhuman just like you.

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>Turns off engine
Ok.

Who said they are? They did?

Still waiting

yes, you are the same tumblr commie scene as them you just can't see it.

antifa is 100% SJW bullshit, tranny worker rights :DDD

They aren't commies because then they'd realize their bullshit "White men are evil" alienate the white working class and ultimately divide the entire working class, just what porky wants. These type of liberals get the gulag too.

>Water marking a meme.

Commies truly are subhuman filth.

Your poor whites aren't doing much better f a m

Liberals have been co-opting socialist causes for decades. They are bigger gravediggers of socialism than a hundred Pinochets.

Don't worry, they are getting purged. Speaking of liberals gravedigging socialism. Remember Google's promise to crack down on fake news?

wsws.org/en/articles/2017/07/27/goog-j27.html

It's like fucking clockwork.

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>user come smash the fash with me

What

whites are doing pretty good worldwide

focusing on the bottom 20% isn't really a good argument

>world socialist web site

>still completely ignoring my claims
Thanks for showing everyone just how fucking horrible you faggots are at debating if you can't even back up your claims when someone provides evidence that says otherwise

>A large segment of white middle-aged Americans has suffered a startling rise in its death rate since 1999, according to a review of statistics published Monday that shows a sharp reversal in decades of progress toward longer lives.

The mortality rate for white men and women ages 45-54 with less than a college education increased markedly between 1999 and 2013, most likely because of problems with legal and illegal drugs, alcohol and suicide, the researchers concluded. Before then, death rates for that group dropped steadily, and at a faster pace.

An increase in the mortality rate for any large demographic group in an advanced nation has been virtually unheard of in recent decades, with the exception of Russian men after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

We are talking about America right now

washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/a-group-of-middle-aged-american-whites-is-dying-at-a-startling-rate/2015/11/02/47a63098-8172-11e5-8ba6-cec48b74b2a7_story.html

archive.is/Urcrt

What yourself, faggot.

these people aren't interested in debate, either because they can't or they're just scared that much should be obvious by now.

communism can only take hold in a hugbox

Hey guys
Wanna hear a joke?

>45 thousand americans die from lack of access to healthcare
And this is a bad thing?

Communism

What are your claims?

>Doesn't know about Jason Unruhe
user, I am dissapoint

>US flag
>not a disgusting larper
Jfc why is it that all the retards are from United Mongrols

I'm well aware of that, but it's still really pathetic that they can't debate on a politics board

It's called being a nigger, apparently. Since you are a commie you are a middleclass memelord like marx, so you probably only know them from TV...

Looking back on this thead, you claim seems to be Marx has Jewish blood.

Okay, so?

I get that /leftypol/ is trying to say that SJWs are a false-flag made by the Bad people to destroy "Real" leftism, but even if that is real you can't deny that many were stupid and selfish enough to fall for it.

If OWS was derailed by women and minorities who hated white guys than maybe the movement was shit in the first place and deserved to fail.

Nice digit repeaters m8
HEIL HITLER 88
Commies on suicide watch

I pointed out that Marx and Lenin had Jewish blood in them, along with Trotsky and Stalin, but I was ignored once I provided evidence that supported my claims.

Pic related is Marx, and this link proves that Lenin had Jewish blood in him
archive.is/y5Pr8

yes we know the fat NEET with less than 30k subs lmfao

Go back far enough and anyone in Europe or America has Jewish blood

he was also an obese NEET who only held a job for like a week

meanwhile he lived off his rich capitalist homosexual lover Engels so he could sit in coffee shops and write all day

Sounds pretty bourgeoisie to me don't you think?

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
Profit is central to economics. By "economics" here I do not mean anything regarding money; I mean the assignment of tasks to people with the intent of maximizing value, a concept that doesn't require money to work. People perform a task if they believe the value gained by that task exceeds the opportunity cost, that is, the value that could be gained completing an alternative task; this concept is profit motive. You can't escape profit motive.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
A society cannot enforce maxims without government. Need can't be quantified without the establishment of classes.

He actually appeared on the Iranian national tv. What have YOU done with your life?

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

wow mate, thats hot

>implying everyone has Jewish blood in them
Even if that were true, which it isn't, that doesn't change the fact that both Marx and Lenin's parents were Jews, which means they had a lot more Jewish blood in them then your average person did. And not only that, but Marxism, Socialism, Maoism and Communism all benefit the 1% because as much as you'd like to LARP about sending (((them))) to the gulags, they're the only ones that can fairly distribute out goods to the common man.

And if you control the peoples' needs and wants, they can basically do anything they want without facing repercussions since the population is dependent on (((them))) for survival.

Sage

>Lenin's parents were Jews,
Not true, his grandfather was and even then Lenin was not aware of that during his life. You Nazis bring up this argument as if anyone having any amount of Jewish blood automatically makes them a part of an international conspiracy, as if thats a given. You just have to shout Jew at anyone you don't like then.

I've always wondered why there's still people following dead ideologies.

I meant to say that Lenin's grandfather was Jewish, not his parents, I'll give you that, but there's no way in hell he didn't know that his grandfather was a kike. But that still doesn't change the fact that he has jewish blood in him and he also supported an ideology that supported the (((Bolsheviks))) over his own people

He wasnt because his grandfather actually converted to Christianity

>Spent a year in China
>Water is affordable at 1元 per bottle
>Vast and well connected public transportation. Can get from my T3 to anywhere in China really cheap and really quick
>Friendly people and delicious food
>Lots more freedoms than 美国, can drink whenever and wherever I please
>Praise and emphasis placed on Nationalism and unity and family
>Only rule is to support the party instead of foreign countries or rebels

Literally what is wrong with this?

I mean thats the reason he wasn't aware, not that it even matters

Fuck off

Why would the USSR slaughter an estimated 20 million Christians if one of their leaders was supposedly Christian himself? Not only that, but Lenin had Churches, Synagogues and Mosques destroyed because he believed that religion is the """Opium of the People""", which is a direct quote from Marx. Lenin supported Atheism and was against religion

You misunderstand, Lenin wasn't Christian and indeed atheism was a big part of marxist thought. I'm just saying his family was christian, not Jewish and in fact his parents supported the monarchy of the time

It doesn't matter if his parents supported Monarchy and were Christian because he didn't support a Monarchy and he was an Atheist. He also supported the Bolsheviks, which were mainly comprised of Jews

How do you reconcile socialism's historic opposition against Zionism and the state of Israel with the fact that communism is supposedly jewish

>socialism's historic opposition against Zionism
>literally sided with the Zionists in WWII

and the Nazi's sided with the soviets, so? WWII was complicated, you are over simplifying it

Hows college?

Kys

kek!

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Why won't you go back?

So, you are saying that capitalism is so much more productive and effective then socialism that capitalism creates enough wealth to where all socialist economies in the world can be suppressed by just a few people in one capitalist country.

Working Marxism [pic related]

Why should I give a fuck what a north Korea apologist or his demented followers have to say?

>Those pixels

Guess how I know you're a nigger?

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>He has a reddit screenshot so he must use leddit!

Communist logic everyone

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It's like he made it on one of those multi-color iMac's from the 90s and took a pic of it with an early 1990s digital camera and finally posted to Sup Forums in 2017 using a 56k modem.

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>Communist logic: Cartoon > Data/Evidence
Seems about right

Are commies national Bolsheviks now?

Communists- Hate America - Russia is so great - Stalin is so great - Same as U.S. (even killed far more people and stupid policies) - People living good in U.S. - Why can't we starve and be send to gulak like during Stalin's time - Me : please kill me......

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Wow even your propaganda features a swindler.

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Yes, slogans and pictures with happy people may be enough to convince stupid and gullible people, but not people who ACTUALLY READ DAS KAPITAL AND READ FUCKING HISTORY.....

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