I started to buy the whole free market bullshit argument until Geko said something like "learn how the fucking world works kid. It's a zero sum game kid, I don't take, I OWN! 50% of the wealth is owned by the richest 1% of Americans, and im one of them. Want to be a working class freak? Go work for your dad!
That boiled my blood and even pissed off my dad (who owns a law firm) even though he's one of the the motherfuckers doing that. It missed me off even more though since im going to be working class when i grow up and my whole ideology is for the working class.
Do you have a question or did you just come here to blog about a 30 year old movie you just saw?
Jaxon Fisher
cool story, bro
Evan Baker
>waaaaaa other people are richer than me kys commie.
David Bailey
I came here to point out how is Wallstreet not a 0 sum game? I mean they don't produce anything, yet they own everything. Really makes you think
>wahhhhhh the state is taking my property wahhhh wahhh Please tell me you have cancer
Sure
William Torres
>I came here to point out how is Wallstreet not a 0 sum game? I mean they don't produce anything, yet they own everything. Really makes you think
So you came here to tell us you have no idea what business investment is?
Julian King
>im going to be working class when i grow up You must be 18 or older to post here kid
Michael Butler
>Wall street movie >Hollywood
This is bait, right?
Austin Davis
>It's a zero sum game kid Then how do we live better than a thousand years ago you fucking retard?
>since im going to be working class when i grow up and my whole ideology is for the working class. As expected of communist scum, think about self-benefit and have no principles whatsoever.
Robert Gomez
>being this easily influenced by a movie
Kys
Juan Murphy
How are they richer than you? These bankers and wall street types are only richer than you through cronyism and fiat currency. This system only has value as long as people place value in it.
David Barnes
>As expected of communist scum, think about self-benefit and have no principles whatsoever THIS.
Typical working-class industrial commie faggotry.
>But I WANT to stand at this one machine and pull this one lever for the next 40 years of my life.... I just want to get PAID WELL to do it.
No faggot, learn some skills besides lever-pulling.
Christian Allen
>how do we live better than 1000 years ago Because of education and the working class retard
>self benefit Yeah i am selfish, got a problem
>not learning from entertainment Please tell me you have cancer
>hollywood >not filled with Harvard degrees Nice troll
I'm 18 but i mean like when im 30 im going to be poor
You don't understand economics, i think Gekko knows better than you pal he said it not me
Christopher Edwards
They control more resources than me
>learn some skills Why should I? My dads a fucking multimillionaire law firm wallstreet lawyer and he's making me be working class because of some shitty family spats? FUCK HIM and fuck you to. I'd rather live off welfare.
Aaron Miller
You're just mad because you're too much of a pussy to ever reach the 1%. You are a disappointment to your father.
Charles Bell
Hitler hated wall street capitalism and communism get with it
Justin Jackson
>Why should I? My dads a fucking multimillionaire law firm wallstreet lawyer and he's making me be working class because of some shitty family spats? FUCK HIM and fuck you to. I'd rather live off welfare.
Dude just stop. If you're gonna come to Sup Forums and troll people, you don't need to write up a whole fake persona. You're trying way too hard and it's just making everybody cringe. Let your arguments stand or fall on their own merits, and drop the roleplaying shit.
Noah Carter
Trading mostly is zero sum fuck tard. Investing not so much, but ultimately can be for many in the event of a crash. Shit is more akin to gambling than wealth creation, but I wouldn't expect a communist to know anything about that.
Luis Taylor
>Because of education and the working class retard You really are dumb. Even if your answer is wrong you still admitted that that wealth has increased.
David Cox
False dichotomy. Commies are just agents of the capitalism.
Only traditionalism is the REAL opposite.
Jace Rogers
>commie again >again sage
Thomas Turner
Jews run wallstreet Jews invented communism
Benjamin Parker
I bet your father is an alcoholic because you're such a failure.
Parker Perry
This, buy bitcoin.
Zachary Rodriguez
>waaaaa people don't like me being a rich self absorbed jerk
Ayden Peterson
>This movie is proof that capitalism doesn't work!
Every time
Andrew Bailey
>a commie is a commie literally because he's mad that daddy stopped buying his lifestyle
The fucking memes are real, my god.
Cooper Allen
You're obviously trolling, so im not responding to anything more
You are uneducated bro, GORDEN GEKKO said it,
No hes an alchohol due to the repressed guilt of being a capitalist
Logan Brooks
>im 18 >you dont understand economics
Hahahahahahahaha holy shit i remember my first joint
Dominic Nelson
Enjoy ban
Explain this shit
Wealth has increased RETARD, I never once said it didn't. Besides our lifestyle hasn't improved since 1950, in fact it's gotten worse. But wealth creation is possible wallstreet doesn't create anything though
You and the 1% are all fucking pussies
Aiden Diaz
>a fictional character said it
3/10 troll, try harder next time. Saged.
Hudson Smith
Only people who have wallstreet dads can ever understand economics. You don't so shut the fuck up. I read many economics books and investment books and my conclusion is "this shits got to go" as that dude said who's friends with Peter Joseph. I believe his name is some slavic thing
Levi Jackson
>fictional character Holy shit you have to be fucking trolling. You're being banned just for saying that.
Samuel Sanders
Are commies actually, unironically, this fucking retarded?
Aiden Phillips
>When somebody calls you out for being a shitty troll, just call them a troll back so you can revel in the confusion.
I'm really just disappointed at the lack of effort more than anything.
Owen Richardson
LMAO
Jose Thomas
>It's a zero-sum game >it has increased Something being zero sum implies that a person can only increase his wealth by taking from others, thereby mainting an overall 'zero-sum'. It's not zero-sum if there has been an overall increase. Pick one and only one, faggot.
Jacob Adams
yes good goy, leave the capitalism to us. making money is evil and nasty.
Elijah Harris
You're unironically retarded
im not the one being banned
Jayden Clark
Ok tough guy dont make me call my dad who works for the local police department to track down your ip. You better be behind 6 proxies or your in for a world of hurt broooklyn style! Tell your dad to.l bring his shoe box with him. And dont let me catch you running to spider asking him to.tell tony to talk to.me capish? Now tell your mom lll be there in 20 mim to stick my gabagoo in her sweet ass
Joseph Robinson
>im not the one being banned I can hack the ban and pirate your IP Address from the mainframe server
Eli Lopez
Get your blog post off my board reddit scum
Jaxson Myers
Thing is, it's not a zero sum game retard. How do you account for the explosion in wealth in the last 100 years? Billions lifted out of poverty. Yes, it came as a result of fractional reserve banking, and other questionable economic systems but how can you simply blame it on "the free market"? or claim it's bullshit?
I am mostly libertarian, but I do agree that the current system funnels wealth to the top. Never the less, there is still more wealth now than ever before. This means the "money pie" so to speak always gets bigger. So even if our slice of pie is proportionally smaller, it's still bigger than it used to be.
Jace Nelson
You're a really bad troll, i suggest quitting.
Jonathan Turner
Dude calm down Of course free market is shit, but your ideology is no better.
Matthew Gray
>ban twerp faggot, i own abd run this operation. enjoy your incoming fatal aneurysm.
Leo Foster
This. It sounds like your 100% clueless on corporate/equity structure, because of that you're having an anxiety attack and acting like a women
Lincoln Taylor
Awe fuck is this Sup Forums the hackxter?? Omg please put me in the screen cap
Ryder Harris
>hollywood leftist propaganda made me a communist
wowie
Carson Martin
Name a single thing that has been produced on wallstreet. Name a car that was made on WALLSTREET. I'm waiting
you're the one acting like a women
The real Gorden Gekko said it though
Jack Williams
Lol man, you realize Geko is not an actual capitalist do you, he is just an actor in a commie's film
Gavin Richardson
Its okay guys I hacked all the bans so we're safe
Charles Clark
Why do you need to be told why communism doesn't work for the millionth time
Supermarkets are better than ration collection AR15 is better than AK47 Wage increases without lowering taxes kills jobs The government cant correctly gauge supply and demand Communism relies on violent coercion and execution of people with different views "for the people" is not a good motivator compared to "i will pay you x to do y"
why am i doing this im wasting my time
Luis Morales
Printing fiat currency (that's backed by nothing but a promise from the gov) out of thin air is not wealth
Median income has barely moved in the last 30+ years
Home ownership is down to pre 2000 levels
By all accounts "wealth" has only increased for stock holders and by wealth I mean literally fake money that's printed on a whim
Elijah Allen
Wall Street is merely the funding for every corporation that produces and invents everything you fucking imbecile
Thomas Baker
ok so im reading the comments here, and i can see you are actually serious. you are an actual communist
what i would recommend is for you to read pretty much any economics book. pretty much any book whatsoever, and you will almost immediately realize that communism (and any other totalitarian ideologies, such as socialism and fascism) DOESNT WORK. it discourages wealth creation, thereby making a state... less wealthy. id write a longer elaboration, but im at fucking work. but i should have to do so anyway, because the totalitarian anti-freeodm inherent in communism should be obvious to you
Luis Reed
He's probably sliding a much more interesting thread. Check the catalog.
Cooper Murphy
yeah good job, you should base your political beliefs on hollywood movies
Asher Cruz
Idk about the zero sum thing but its obviously retarded how the more money you have the more you make, its a system managed to create inequality
Lincoln Young
I've spent my childhood reading economics. IF you read a single economics book you'll realize it's a failure. I read a pro-capitalist book and realized how shitty the arugments were
And corporations are parasites, so wallstreet funds parasite.s
Sebastian Butler
ya thats not due to capitalism, thats due to corruption in capitalism (i.e. more totalitarianism, in the vein of something roughly equivalent to socialism, as its always justified by some sort of protectionism). markets dont create monopolies. governments do
Isaac Hall
sure
FUCK! I looked it up you're right. Thought he was based on a real guy like Jordan Belford
I just hate capitalisms inefficiency
pre-2000 levels. is good though. Everyone owned a home in the 90s
Benjamin Green
dude you already confessed to being 18
wherever there is wealth, there is capitalism
Nicholas King
No it's literally in Adam Smiths economics
Angel Cooper
I don't even know how to argue with this level of ignorance I hold my CFP and CPA
Your demonization of Wall Street is similar to arachnophobia, fear of things you don't understand and look scary
Ryan Hernandez
So what yes im fucking 18. I have read Marx, I've read Ayn Rand, I've read Sowell, I've read Frederick Hayek, and guess what. The capitalists make shitty arguments, the only capitalist i respect is Keynes
Matthew Allen
You need to watch many more films goy, and much more tv, and drink soda, and marry a black. All the goys are doing it, just watch our new film. Its about watching more films, and tv, and drinking soda, and dating blacks.
Bentley Reed
well in your OP you acknowledged that a hollywood movie is the primary basis for your current ideological affiliation, which sortof proves youre retarded
Angel Morris
What the fuck is going on in this thread?
James King
My older cousin has a CPA at FUCKING HARVARD! And guess what he's a socialist. He still believes in money and markets but wants everyone who works at wallstreet is jail.
You like wallstreet, because you don't understand wallstreet.
Ryder Cook
>they don't produce anything, yet they own everything Tesla just released a full-electric vehicle which stands as the cheapest current EV, and which contains the most advanced and well-constructed technology for the price level, if not for cars 2-3x its price level.
It has done this despite NEVER having EVER made a profit. Tesla has never made even one cent more than its expenses in its entire time operating. It has been financed, exclusively, by investors and the personal funds of its CEO. Yes, this company is thoroughly owned by investors. But they are obviously fucking producing things because the car would not exist without their funding. They saw the opportunity for future profit in the company, and as a result they dedicated their money to it and put their faith in Elon Musk to not fuck it up.
What has communism produced for cars? The fucking Lada
Alexander Sanders
>I mean they don't produce anything, yet they own everything. Really makes you think.
They don't produce anything because they don't have to, they're communists. They just print their own money because they're all in the same Jewish Zionists Masonic kiddie diddling and cannibal club that gets what they want in an instant. Wall Street isn't real. Its a gematria game. Hello? How can you be red pilled and not know any of this?
Joseph Collins
I don't know why I'm bothering in arguing with a teenager
Brandon Richardson
Wall Street does absolutely nothing you dumb cuck except arbitrarily price "stocks" based on how much banks are willing to pay and banks are willing to pay tons because they get 0% interest loans from the FED that's why the stock market is so high and breaking records
You think the average American is breaking records and becoming so successful? Obviously not by all statistics
Wall Street is laughing at Main Street and has been since the dumb cucks in gov game them a pass in 2008 and actually allowed people from Wall Street explain how to fix what went wrong
That's like having the police department investigate its own crimes
Logan Gutierrez
Venezuela is coming full commie, why don't you move there?
Evan Wood
Fiat currency is over leveraged, yes, and the things you mention are symptoms of a broken system.
I think a massive reform of monetary policy is overdue.
>retarded how the more money you have the more you make, its a system managed to create inequality
How is this retarded? Also I would reconsider complaining about inequality.
Luis Gray
NO! I just saw wallstreet like 5 minutes ago, i just finished watching it, and that seen where he says "it's a zero sum game, and i OWN it" really pissed me off and flipped me back. Because if you payed attention i was here 6 hours ago making a thread about how im questioning communism since i pay people to be my fake girlfriend and friends, and without capitalism i couldn't do that. Remember that thread?
Charles Garcia
Agreed, capitalism is wholly inadequate and it's intellectual mutation - consumerism is destroying us. I encourage you to read 100 Questions About Fascism, We have the innovation of private enterprise, with the economic leadership of a nation to lift up wages, crush monopolies where they exploit, and represent the worker in parliament. We want many of the same things you do.
Cooper Cooper
CPA is accounting you fuckwad nothing to do with Wall Street other than evaluating their statements....
Oliver Baker
if you think the economy is 0 sum you need a fucking brain.
>if bob and adam pay each other to build each other a house for 100k each you end up with 2 houses and 200k moved.
James Hernandez
>Jordan Belford you realize jordan belfort is a jew right?
Owen Hernandez
ok
if you love communism so much, why dont you move to ANY COMMUNIST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD? no? because they are all terrible? and every wealhty country in the world is a capitalist state? does the list of countries youd rather live in consist exclusively of capitalist states?
Except here's the thing, the government could EASILY fund that. And the government would have the funds to do it if the government simply took all of wallstreets wealth
Henry Rivera
>NO U Top tier bantz there, Comrade Cocksmoker.
Colton Lee
Are you 15?
Samuel Perez
>I hate capitalism’s inefficiency Well time to go to a slower system and have less innovation Gommunism is the only way
Liam Foster
watches jewish media
>communist
textbook.
Cameron Lewis
So you are such a sensitive bitch you changed your economic view because of some asshole who doesn't even exist? Wow.
Juan Powell
...
Jace Morgan
Because it's ultra-capitalist
I like some fascist ideas i really do but i can't get behind the whole ideology
>life is a constant struggle
I hate that, because in my opinion the whole point of life is to have a good time. The reason i like communism is to create so much wealth we can all chill
I know IDIOT, everyone in my family is either
>A: With my Dads law firm
>B: Work as psychiatrists
or
>C: Work as accountants
My cousin is an accountant and he fucking LOATHES wallstreet
Adrian Reed
yeah, the soviet union making nearly zero industrial advances between 1945-1991, thats like an economic miracle
i wonder if it had anything to do with the fact that almost every soviet citizen was 100% disincentivized from creating innovative technology, as they would have made no personal benefits from it? no that cant be it!
Isaac Gonzalez
>saw (((Hollywood))) film >made me full-on commie
wow user would you look at that
Jonathan Phillips
>jimmy boy sold a stock for $100 >GDP increased $100 >Nothing new produced >This somehow isn't 0 sum Get a brain moron
I don't give a flying FUCK what his ethnicity is. My grandfather's a Jew and he's way poorer than my Anglo dad.
Joseph Cooper
Explain why China isn't doing that right now kiddo
Jackson Smith
Wall Street is merely the trading purchase of equity or a percentage of a company or a loan a company puts out that pays a dividend.
Why don't you want to own a business user?
Whats the advantage of the government own them instead?
Can you name one government owned company that is functional? DMV? USPS? SS?
Ryder Young
>easily >simply
Nope, things aren't easy with or simple with communism.
Brandon Adams
There are no more communist countries that's why
Yeah i saw that too, it's stupid as shit because when a wallstreet dude makes money it comes off others expense
Because his argument made sense and im open to new arguments idiot. He said "when i make money it comes at others loss" which is true. Wallstreet guys don't produce shit but they rich as fuck
Hunter Anderson
Sure buddy, even though their GDP doubled every 10 years and the USSR created most modern technology
Hollywood is run by capitalists bro
That guy was a proven fraud.
Jason Lopez
>if the government simply took all of wallstreets wealth and there it is
totalitarianism its the ultimate summarization of why socialism, fascism and communism never has worked and never will: totalitarianism. "give the government more power because X". it always ALWAYS INEVITABLY leads to serfdom (sortof slavery). anyone who doesnt recognize this pattern is a moron