Just saw the Movie "Wallstreet", Made Me a Full on Communist Again

I started to buy the whole free market bullshit argument until Geko said something like "learn how the fucking world works kid. It's a zero sum game kid, I don't take, I OWN! 50% of the wealth is owned by the richest 1% of Americans, and im one of them. Want to be a working class freak? Go work for your dad!

That boiled my blood and even pissed off my dad (who owns a law firm) even though he's one of the the motherfuckers doing that. It missed me off even more though since im going to be working class when i grow up and my whole ideology is for the working class.

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Do you have a question or did you just come here to blog about a 30 year old movie you just saw?

cool story, bro

>waaaaaa other people are richer than me
kys commie.

I came here to point out how is Wallstreet not a 0 sum game? I mean they don't produce anything, yet they own everything. Really makes you think

>wahhhhhh the state is taking my property wahhhh wahhh
Please tell me you have cancer

Sure

>I came here to point out how is Wallstreet not a 0 sum game? I mean they don't produce anything, yet they own everything. Really makes you think

So you came here to tell us you have no idea what business investment is?

>im going to be working class when i grow up
You must be 18 or older to post here kid

>Wall street movie
>Hollywood

This is bait, right?

>It's a zero sum game kid
Then how do we live better than a thousand years ago you fucking retard?

>since im going to be working class when i grow up and my whole ideology is for the working class.
As expected of communist scum, think about self-benefit and have no principles whatsoever.

>being this easily influenced by a movie

Kys

How are they richer than you? These bankers and wall street types are only richer than you through cronyism and fiat currency. This system only has value as long as people place value in it.

>As expected of communist scum, think about self-benefit and have no principles whatsoever
THIS.

Typical working-class industrial commie faggotry.

>But I WANT to stand at this one machine and pull this one lever for the next 40 years of my life.... I just want to get PAID WELL to do it.

No faggot, learn some skills besides lever-pulling.

>how do we live better than 1000 years ago
Because of education and the working class retard

>self benefit
Yeah i am selfish, got a problem

>not learning from entertainment
Please tell me you have cancer

>hollywood
>not filled with Harvard degrees
Nice troll

I'm 18 but i mean like when im 30 im going to be poor

You don't understand economics, i think Gekko knows better than you pal he said it not me

They control more resources than me

>learn some skills
Why should I? My dads a fucking multimillionaire law firm wallstreet lawyer and he's making me be working class because of some shitty family spats? FUCK HIM and fuck you to. I'd rather live off welfare.

You're just mad because you're too much of a pussy to ever reach the 1%. You are a disappointment to your father.

Hitler hated wall street capitalism and communism get with it

>Why should I? My dads a fucking multimillionaire law firm wallstreet lawyer and he's making me be working class because of some shitty family spats? FUCK HIM and fuck you to. I'd rather live off welfare.

Dude just stop.
If you're gonna come to Sup Forums and troll people, you don't need to write up a whole fake persona. You're trying way too hard and it's just making everybody cringe. Let your arguments stand or fall on their own merits, and drop the roleplaying shit.

Trading mostly is zero sum fuck tard. Investing not so much, but ultimately can be for many in the event of a crash. Shit is more akin to gambling than wealth creation, but I wouldn't expect a communist to know anything about that.

>Because of education and the working class retard
You really are dumb. Even if your answer is wrong you still admitted that that wealth has increased.

False dichotomy.
Commies are just agents of the capitalism.

Only traditionalism is the REAL opposite.

>commie again
>again
sage

Jews run wallstreet
Jews invented communism

I bet your father is an alcoholic because you're such a failure.

This, buy bitcoin.

>waaaaa people don't like me being a rich self absorbed jerk

>This movie is proof that capitalism doesn't work!

Every time

>a commie is a commie literally because he's mad that daddy stopped buying his lifestyle

The fucking memes are real, my god.

You're obviously trolling, so im not responding to anything more

You are uneducated bro, GORDEN GEKKO said it,

No hes an alchohol due to the repressed guilt of being a capitalist

>im 18
>you dont understand economics

Hahahahahahahaha holy shit i remember my first joint

Enjoy ban

Explain this shit

Wealth has increased RETARD, I never once said it didn't. Besides our lifestyle hasn't improved since 1950, in fact it's gotten worse. But wealth creation is possible wallstreet doesn't create anything though

You and the 1% are all fucking pussies

>a fictional character said it

3/10 troll, try harder next time. Saged.

Only people who have wallstreet dads can ever understand economics. You don't so shut the fuck up. I read many economics books and investment books and my conclusion is "this shits got to go" as that dude said who's friends with Peter Joseph. I believe his name is some slavic thing

>fictional character
Holy shit you have to be fucking trolling. You're being banned just for saying that.

Are commies actually, unironically, this fucking retarded?

>When somebody calls you out for being a shitty troll, just call them a troll back so you can revel in the confusion.

I'm really just disappointed at the lack of effort more than anything.

LMAO

>It's a zero-sum game
>it has increased
Something being zero sum implies that a person can only increase his wealth by taking from others, thereby mainting an overall 'zero-sum'. It's not zero-sum if there has been an overall increase. Pick one and only one, faggot.

yes good goy, leave the capitalism to us. making money is evil and nasty.

You're unironically retarded

im not the one being banned

Ok tough guy dont make me call my dad who works for the local police department to track down your ip. You better be behind 6 proxies or your in for a world of hurt broooklyn style! Tell your dad to.l bring his shoe box with him. And dont let me catch you running to spider asking him to.tell tony to talk to.me capish? Now tell your mom lll be there in 20 mim to stick my gabagoo in her sweet ass

>im not the one being banned
I can hack the ban and pirate your IP Address from the mainframe server

Get your blog post off my board reddit scum

Thing is, it's not a zero sum game retard. How do you account for the explosion in wealth in the last 100 years? Billions lifted out of poverty. Yes, it came as a result of fractional reserve banking, and other questionable economic systems but how can you simply blame it on "the free market"? or claim it's bullshit?

I am mostly libertarian, but I do agree that the current system funnels wealth to the top. Never the less, there is still more wealth now than ever before. This means the "money pie" so to speak always gets bigger. So even if our slice of pie is proportionally smaller, it's still bigger than it used to be.

You're a really bad troll, i suggest quitting.

Dude calm down
Of course free market is shit, but your ideology is no better.

>ban
twerp faggot, i own abd run this operation. enjoy your incoming fatal aneurysm.

This. It sounds like your 100% clueless on corporate/equity structure, because of that you're having an anxiety attack and acting like a women

Awe fuck is this Sup Forums the hackxter?? Omg please put me in the screen cap

>hollywood leftist propaganda made me a communist

wowie

Name a single thing that has been produced on wallstreet. Name a car that was made on WALLSTREET. I'm waiting

you're the one acting like a women

The real Gorden Gekko said it though

Lol man, you realize Geko is not an actual capitalist do you, he is just an actor in a commie's film

Its okay guys I hacked all the bans so we're safe

Why do you need to be told why communism doesn't work for the millionth time

Supermarkets are better than ration collection
AR15 is better than AK47
Wage increases without lowering taxes kills jobs
The government cant correctly gauge supply and demand
Communism relies on violent coercion and execution of people with different views
"for the people" is not a good motivator compared to "i will pay you x to do y"

why am i doing this im wasting my time

Printing fiat currency (that's backed by nothing but a promise from the gov) out of thin air is not wealth

Median income has barely moved in the last 30+ years

Home ownership is down to pre 2000 levels

By all accounts "wealth" has only increased for stock holders and by wealth I mean literally fake money that's printed on a whim

Wall Street is merely the funding for every corporation that produces and invents everything you fucking imbecile

ok so im reading the comments here, and i can see you are actually serious. you are an actual communist

what i would recommend is for you to read pretty much any economics book. pretty much any book whatsoever, and you will almost immediately realize that communism (and any other totalitarian ideologies, such as socialism and fascism) DOESNT WORK. it discourages wealth creation, thereby making a state... less wealthy. id write a longer elaboration, but im at fucking work. but i should have to do so anyway, because the totalitarian anti-freeodm inherent in communism should be obvious to you

He's probably sliding a much more interesting thread. Check the catalog.

yeah good job, you should base your political beliefs on hollywood movies

Idk about the zero sum thing but its obviously retarded how the more money you have the more you make, its a system managed to create inequality

I've spent my childhood reading economics. IF you read a single economics book you'll realize it's a failure. I read a pro-capitalist book and realized how shitty the arugments were

And corporations are parasites, so wallstreet funds parasite.s

ya thats not due to capitalism, thats due to corruption in capitalism (i.e. more totalitarianism, in the vein of something roughly equivalent to socialism, as its always justified by some sort of protectionism). markets dont create monopolies. governments do

sure

FUCK! I looked it up you're right. Thought he was based on a real guy like Jordan Belford

I just hate capitalisms inefficiency

pre-2000 levels. is good though. Everyone owned a home in the 90s

dude you already confessed to being 18

wherever there is wealth, there is capitalism

No it's literally in Adam Smiths economics

I don't even know how to argue with this level of ignorance I hold my CFP and CPA

Your demonization of Wall Street is similar to arachnophobia, fear of things you don't understand and look scary

So what yes im fucking 18. I have read Marx, I've read Ayn Rand, I've read Sowell, I've read Frederick Hayek, and guess what. The capitalists make shitty arguments, the only capitalist i respect is Keynes

You need to watch many more films goy, and much more tv, and drink soda, and marry a black. All the goys are doing it, just watch our new film. Its about watching more films, and tv, and drinking soda, and dating blacks.

well in your OP you acknowledged that a hollywood movie is the primary basis for your current ideological affiliation, which sortof proves youre retarded

What the fuck is going on in this thread?

My older cousin has a CPA at FUCKING HARVARD! And guess what he's a socialist. He still believes in money and markets but wants everyone who works at wallstreet is jail.

You like wallstreet, because you don't understand wallstreet.

>they don't produce anything, yet they own everything
Tesla just released a full-electric vehicle which stands as the cheapest current EV, and which contains the most advanced and well-constructed technology for the price level, if not for cars 2-3x its price level.

It has done this despite NEVER having EVER made a profit. Tesla has never made even one cent more than its expenses in its entire time operating. It has been financed, exclusively, by investors and the personal funds of its CEO. Yes, this company is thoroughly owned by investors. But they are obviously fucking producing things because the car would not exist without their funding. They saw the opportunity for future profit in the company, and as a result they dedicated their money to it and put their faith in Elon Musk to not fuck it up.

What has communism produced for cars? The fucking Lada

>I mean they don't produce anything, yet they own everything. Really makes you think.

They don't produce anything because they don't have to, they're communists. They just print their own money because they're all in the same Jewish Zionists Masonic kiddie diddling and cannibal club that gets what they want in an instant. Wall Street isn't real. Its a gematria game. Hello? How can you be red pilled and not know any of this?

I don't know why I'm bothering in arguing with a teenager

Wall Street does absolutely nothing you dumb cuck except arbitrarily price "stocks" based on how much banks are willing to pay and banks are willing to pay tons because they get 0% interest loans from the FED that's why the stock market is so high and breaking records

You think the average American is breaking records and becoming so successful? Obviously not by all statistics

Wall Street is laughing at Main Street and has been since the dumb cucks in gov game them a pass in 2008 and actually allowed people from Wall Street explain how to fix what went wrong

That's like having the police department investigate its own crimes

Venezuela is coming full commie, why don't you move there?

Fiat currency is over leveraged, yes, and the things you mention are symptoms of a broken system.

I think a massive reform of monetary policy is overdue.

>retarded how the more money you have the more you make, its a system managed to create inequality

How is this retarded? Also I would reconsider complaining about inequality.

NO! I just saw wallstreet like 5 minutes ago, i just finished watching it, and that seen where he says "it's a zero sum game, and i OWN it" really pissed me off and flipped me back. Because if you payed attention i was here 6 hours ago making a thread about how im questioning communism since i pay people to be my fake girlfriend and friends, and without capitalism i couldn't do that. Remember that thread?

Agreed, capitalism is wholly inadequate and it's intellectual mutation - consumerism is destroying us. I encourage you to read 100 Questions About Fascism, We have the innovation of private enterprise, with the economic leadership of a nation to lift up wages, crush monopolies where they exploit, and represent the worker in parliament. We want many of the same things you do.

CPA is accounting you fuckwad nothing to do with Wall Street other than evaluating their statements....

if you think the economy is 0 sum you need a fucking brain.

>if bob and adam pay each other to build each other a house for 100k each you end up with 2 houses and 200k moved.

>Jordan Belford
you realize jordan belfort is a jew right?

ok

if you love communism so much, why dont you move to ANY COMMUNIST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD? no? because they are all terrible? and every wealhty country in the world is a capitalist state? does the list of countries youd rather live in consist exclusively of capitalist states?

there ya go

Watch this

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Except here's the thing, the government could EASILY fund that. And the government would have the funds to do it if the government simply took all of wallstreets wealth

>NO U
Top tier bantz there, Comrade Cocksmoker.

Are you 15?

>I hate capitalism’s inefficiency
Well time to go to a slower system and have less innovation Gommunism is the only way

watches jewish media

>communist

textbook.

So you are such a sensitive bitch you changed your economic view because of some asshole who doesn't even exist? Wow.

...

Because it's ultra-capitalist

I like some fascist ideas i really do but i can't get behind the whole ideology

>life is a constant struggle

I hate that, because in my opinion the whole point of life is to have a good time. The reason i like communism is to create so much wealth we can all chill

I know IDIOT, everyone in my family is either

>A: With my Dads law firm

>B: Work as psychiatrists

or

>C: Work as accountants

My cousin is an accountant and he fucking LOATHES wallstreet

yeah, the soviet union making nearly zero industrial advances between 1945-1991, thats like an economic miracle

i wonder if it had anything to do with the fact that almost every soviet citizen was 100% disincentivized from creating innovative technology, as they would have made no personal benefits from it? no that cant be it!

>saw (((Hollywood))) film
>made me full-on commie

wow user would you look at that

>jimmy boy sold a stock for $100
>GDP increased $100
>Nothing new produced
>This somehow isn't 0 sum
Get a brain moron

I don't give a flying FUCK what his ethnicity is. My grandfather's a Jew and he's way poorer than my Anglo dad.

Explain why China isn't doing that right now kiddo

Wall Street is merely the trading purchase of equity or a percentage of a company or a loan a company puts out that pays a dividend.

Why don't you want to own a business user?

Whats the advantage of the government own them instead?

Can you name one government owned company that is functional? DMV? USPS? SS?

>easily
>simply

Nope, things aren't easy with or simple with communism.

There are no more communist countries that's why

Yeah i saw that too, it's stupid as shit because when a wallstreet dude makes money it comes off others expense

Because his argument made sense and im open to new arguments idiot. He said "when i make money it comes at others loss" which is true. Wallstreet guys don't produce shit but they rich as fuck

Sure buddy, even though their GDP doubled every 10 years and the USSR created most modern technology

Hollywood is run by capitalists bro

That guy was a proven fraud.

>if the government simply took all of wallstreets wealth
and there it is

totalitarianism
its the ultimate summarization of why socialism, fascism and communism never has worked and never will: totalitarianism. "give the government more power because X". it always ALWAYS INEVITABLY leads to serfdom (sortof slavery). anyone who doesnt recognize this pattern is a moron