Research shows that H-1b visas are a net gain of $1400 for the average American Sup Forums.
Yes, workers lose out on it.
But that's a tiny (see 65,000 competitive spots) loss for a gain for 300,000,000.
There is absolutely zero reason to oppose the H-1b unless you're a cuck who wants welfare bux for mediocre American born engineers.
I prefer having a net gain of $5000 for my family and the entirety of America over a 1 in a 5000 chance of helping some mediocre engineer.
usnews.com
Other urls found in this thread:
youtube.com
investorplace.com
timesofindia.indiatimes.com
techinsurgent.com
nytimes.com
nytimes
archive.is
thelayoff.com
dallasnews.com
thehindubusinessline.com
tech.economictimes.indiatimes.com
twitter.com
Are those the same VISAs Trump used to hire foreign workers for the maralago this week? Yeah, sorry but I knew that Miller was another typical jew.
I oppose the H1b visas. I actually oppose all work visas.
Only reason someone should come to a country is because he invests north of 1 million and creates 20 long term jobs. Otherwise, no mas. This goes for marriages with foreigners too.
That supposed $1400 gain goes to the employers of H-1bs, not the average person.
With his new country cap removal, Trump wants to give green cards to poos without limiting them to 7% of the EB green cards.
Trump has done absolutely nothing on H1bs apart from an executive order to investigate them and tell him if theres anything wrong with them, though he said something about opposing them in the debates. The investigation turned up data that they actually help.
This argument makes me laugh because it sounds like you want him to correct that problem and btfo h1b.
indians end up destroying the company and the company goes out of business. There's like 500 companies that were taken over by indians and ALL of them went out of business
anyone who outsources to them will have their company ruined OR will have to hire white knight American consultants to fix the mess they've created.
alot of companies are bailed out by these dumb white knight goys who fix the failed systems created by pajeet
these white knights who keep the company afloat are usually then fired for multicultural reasons
The article uses extra per capita GDP growth, efficiency, labor market freedom to account for it. Remember, H1bs increase the supply of engineers, so more innovation happens. Those "65,000" mediocre engineers who didn't get a job paying 200k didn't just stop being engineers, they worked for 150k while producing things. As a result, more people produced things for the same price and thus Americans as a whole gained as they gained greater access to technology to boost their human capital.
You would understand that if you read the report.
Stop using socialist tier economics.
Lol why?
A scientist/engineer is much more useful in the long run than an immediate investor, especially if the investor is investing in the housing market (the chinese).
youtube.com
>tfw your employer replaces you with an unskilled H1B Indian and forces you to teach them how to do your job before you're allowed to take your severance money
BUT HEY, HE MADE $1400 APPARENTLY, LET'S KEEP THOSE IMMIGRANT SCABS COMING!
>Yes, you native workers lose out on it
>but you're tiny and insignificant fuck you let me exploit this country
Fuck off pajeet.
H-1B fraud is so bad that Microsoft and Amazon hired entire departments to investigate it.
Fuck unemployment rates amiright?
Visas and work permits are a form of unfair competition, which is
1) illegal
2) not in the interest of the citizen
3) favors corporations and the rich
4) disrupts the free market forces of offer and demand in the workforce
5) lowers american interest for getting into [x] profession because its zerg rushed by 80 IQ immigrants/illegals paid under the table
American jobs belong to americans, thats basic public administration 101.
H-1B Visas are Americas tool to literally Brain-drain the rest of the world. Only a complete moron would oppose them.
I have it on good authority that the Obamacare system that failed when the floodgates were first opened was made by the Indian branch of CGI...
obamacare system launch failure caused by poojeets was major news here and entirely exposed the h1b scam and hindu IT supremecy b.s
the whole H1B pyramid scam was devised by globalists as part of their race replacement scheme, it has nothing to do with worker shortage, skills shortage, or other smoke screen excuses
it is a corporate migrant smuggling scheme, as implemented with the migrant refugee scheme
the soros/globalists destroy everything
CGI Group, Firm That Botched Obamacare Site, Gets $4.87M Extension
investorplace.com
Why don't you name 10 of them? If there's 500 ones, 10 of them with a combined market capitalization of over 10 billion dollars should be easy shouldn't it?
Oh wait.
Under Indian CEOs Market capitalization for Google Doubled. Market Cap and revenues for microsoft increased much more than under the white CEO.
Also, the report is based on statistics and evidence.
It's not economically feasible or rational for a company like Google to hire "pajeets" just because they are multicultural.
If so, they would just hire black people.
>for the average american
You mean for the kike who owns the company?
>A scientist/engineer is much more useful in the long run than an immediate investor, especially if the investor is investing in the housing market (the chinese).
People should stay where they are. It makes no sense to import people. Better to invest in your own people.
Now go away, race mixer.
British Airways blames outsourced IT jobs in India for system failure and cancellations
Only seems appropriate for a truly third world company to use third world resources.
>H-1b visas are a net gain of $1400 for the average American
Bull.
Fucking.
Shit.
Are you retarded? The employer isn't the one making 1400, it's the average American. So 300,000,000 times 1400 = the average yearly productivity increase attributed to H1bs. Roughly 500 billion dollars worth of economic impact.
Yes, 65000 people matter less than $5000 per average household, no matter how special you think you are.
Also, you still get a job, just a less paying one.
Unemployment in tech is the lowest of any sector.
It's in the interest of every citizen except the citizen competing against said labor. In this case, 65,000 people who lose out on potential wage differentials.
American jobs belong to the employers. Policy should be decided on what benefits Americans as a whole the most (utilitarianism) not what benefits a certain special interest group (mediocre tech workers).
Yes.
Obamacare was designed by a Canadian company
Nothing to do with H1b.
Know what you're talking about.
see Here's an entire website by a guy who knows tech Pajeets better than anyone
Tech companies have all turned to shit since poos took over.
Microsoft, mobile is dead, server is losing ground, cloud is miles behind, gaming is being beaten by the fucking japs.
Google, no new innovation since 2013, Android is getting *worse*, cloud services are crashing, the shine has gone from this once great company.
Nokia, fucking tanked. Well done poo in loo. You killed the worlds largest mobile company.
Adobe, in the worst position they've ever been, in their entire history.
Face it, once Indians become CEOs of the worlds greatest tech companies, those companies circle the drain. Indians are a useless bunch of cunts and they ruin anything they touch.
Indians are literally ruining the tech industry with their incompetence, I've seen it first hand.
>toys r us
>brings over indians on h1b
>forces current employees to be shadowd by indians
>indans take notes of every move
>they follow american employees everywhere, even to the bathroom
>americans are instructed to show indains how to do their jobs
>if americans refuse they are fired on the spot
>those who cooperate are allowed employment for an extra month
>indains finish with their notes
>indians return to india
>americans fire
>building and assets liquidated
>toys r us has indians do the jobs in india for pennies on the dollar.
>H1bs increase the supply of engineers, so more innovation happens
That would be great if it was used as intended. The problem is it's not. See:
H1B is supposed to be for filling jobs nobody currently in the US is able to fill. In reality it gets used to lay off US citizens who can do the job so they can be replaced by much cheaper immigrant labor. So no, you're not getting a bunch of extra geniuses, you're getting a bunch of desperate questionably skilled immigrants who are willing to do the job that was already getting done for a fraction of the cost.
Archived that
>nytimes com/2015/09/30/us/toys-r-us-brings-temporary-foreign-workers-to-us-to-move-jobs-overseas.html?_r=0
archive.is
(((((((((((Research))))))))))) sheckles for kikes
Average American as in the average household which gains from greater access to technology to improve its capital.
Unless you have an autistic political and racial preference it makes no sense.
What does this have to do with the H-1b? You have no evidence that a person securing a H-1b here has anything to do with the people who designed British Airways' website. People who work for H1bs here are hired for Google, Amazon and Microsoft.
That's what statistics actually show. Unless you can debate that instead of denying it like a leftist, there is zero reason I (a policy employee for an anti immigration Republican congressman, who is already in the minority for his support of the RAISE Act but wants it to double employment based migration) should listen to you.
H1Bs aren't used to bring in better engineers or skilled workers. They are used to lower the wages of others for the people who have to pay for such services. My cousin worked as a placement specialist for Tata. He received a complaint about a currynigger looless poo machine and checked his degrees. Yep, uncertified diploma mill paid for by Tata, who charges the little bastard they placed with a US company a monthly fee on top of a cut of his salary. My cousin was actually told that the biggest issue was that too many curries with real degrees would not allow Tata or another consultancy to 'manage their placements' and the ones who did often, 'become informed and act on their legal rights'. He quit and started coding again. His own father called him a traitor for helping you wood-skinned pagan wobblenecking puppets into the country.
You are literally rent-a-niggers that went to slave schools. Your only purpose to is to take a title you did not earn, suck at it, be paid poorly, and act as a sinkweight on your US-born peers.
As for the H1Bs who studied in the United States and stayed on with graduate H1Bs, it's time they went home, too. The United States is not your home. Now it is time to GTFO. Of course, there are more direct remove curry methods, like that guy in Kansas. I personally cannot wait to see H1B cancellation come next, and humiliating curry-removal charters. The tears in tech and in Hyderabad will be delicious.
Eat shit, retard.
Those are AMERICAN jobs being taken by shitskin pajeets
You're still arguing for a shitty thing for the American citizen.
Placing gold above home. Placing wealth before well being.
No, I'm glad Trump is going to come down hard of all you pajeet fraudulent fucks. So many of you have fake degrees and you know fuck all compared to the American workers you are replacing. It's completely out of control and I'll be happy to see some of you faggots deported.
It's a net loss. Don't delude yourself. We're so sick of brown skin people in America.
In sum: "american engineers are all shit and poos are worth more".
No. What happens is that foreigners are willing to work for less faggot. And theres no such thing as a net gain given that most work for the private sector.
Said research returned you a value which is advertised by the employers. Ofc they say that! They and the lobbied politicians. They would rather have two engineers working for the same price as one, even if the native is better, not to mention that the added competition lowers their demand, effectively saving them money and lowering their wages.
Nice try.
>poo in the loo
There's a wonderful Silicon Valley tall tale I like to tell.
Once upon a time, there was a Yapoo in gayland.
Yapoo decided that the best way to make more money was to keep making their product just as it is, but to cut down on prices as much as they could. So they got rid of all of the developers, and engineers, and coders, and operators, and replaced them with cheap labor from India. Unfortunately, Indians are stupid, and useless, and never admit when they did something wrong, and will push blame onto anyone or anything else as soon as suspicion has arisen.
And even worse? The Indians would gang up together and push outsiders out, constantly pinning everything on them until they were fired or quit. And when they got into positions of powers at companies, those departments soon became entirely Indian.
Yapoo quickly began losing money, and they didn't know why. "But India promised they'd be just as good!" they cried, as their company, once as strong as Boogle's, crumbled before them amidst an ocean of curry scented poo.
This just means you can't debate my point.
What does this have to do with anything?
Google's market capitalization and revenues have nearly doubled since 2013.
It has innovated massively in AI, Cloud and ML. All of which have processed 3200 H-1b apps in the past 3 years.
Microsoft has been gaining market cap since it's Indian CEO took hold.
You can't just keep making claims which are blatantly false.
ToysRUs by bringing in H1bs, even in the "worst" case scenario helps americans by reducing toy prices for working class households and the cash flow within the US. Remember a majority of H1b holders' incomes is spent in the US. The only people who lose are mediocre programmers who want more than they are worth.
H1bs are "supposed" to is a bullshit argument. The law states non displacement is unnecessary for wages over $60k. H1bs are there to complement the American workforce and improve producitivity, improving the lives of Americans as a whole. They do exactly that. The point of policy is to help all your constituents, not a minority that is so small that it counts less than 65k in size.
Countless companies destroyed - Sun Microsystems, compeltely gutted by poos and sold to Oracle for a pittance, Adobe (original photoshop team canned, POOs can't improve on code written in the early versions), IBM (Indial Bowel Movement - 1B failure in Texas), many such examples.
>*saving employers money and lowering engineers wages
Was poor quality from India's Tata behind crash of Navy F/A-18 jet?
usnews.msnbc.msn.com/.../11057385-navy-jet-crashes-in-virginia-beach-hitting-apartment-buildings
Emergency crews had extinguished fires and were searching for victims at a cluster of apartments in Virginia Beach, Va., Friday after a Navy F/A-18 jet crashed into the complex, destroying two buildings and damaging several others, authorities and witnesses said.
www.informationweek.com/.../229212834
According to Boeing, the agreement's intent is to "develop new supply sources throughout the Indian manufacturing and engineering communities for both commercial and defense applications." Boeing stated outright that it plans to outsource work on the Navy's F/A 18 Super Hornet to its Indian joint venture.
www.boeing.com/.../080214a_nr.html
CHICAGO, Feb. 14, 2008 -- The Boeing Company [NYSE: BA] and Tata Industries Limited of India have agreed on a plan to form a joint-venture company that will initially include more than US$500 million of defense-related aerospace component work in India for export to Boeing and its international customers.
[...]
In the first phase of the agreement, Boeing would potentially issue contracts for work packages to the joint-venture company involving defense-related component manufacturing on Boeing's F/A-18 Super Hornet for the U.S. Navy and Royal Australian Air Force, CH-47 Chinook and/or P-8 Maritime Patrol Aircraft. A research and development center for advanced manufacturing technologies is also contemplated.
I work for Metro trains melbourne. Once upon a time they outsourced our recruitment to Hoban (a job seeking and job agency company).
It was a massive mistake, as they corrupted the process and their Pajeet manager would accept bribes of 10's of thousands of dollars to put other poo's and their shitspray family members into positions.
I'm talking about placing someone who literally cannot speak English into an $85,000 a year job, and expecting nothing to go wrong.
After several customer complaints the staff members were stood down, and Hoban was audited. The head manager was convicted to 7 years imprisonment with 5 suspended. His other cohorts fled back to India.
It was a massive scandal back in the mid nauties
Those are J1s, which are used in resort areas to diversify it with exotic workers and on-demand labor during the tourist season.
>H1bs are there to complement the American workforce
>non displacement is unnecessary
Which is it?
Complement != Replace FYI
this reason why western civ is in decline. superior native talent and skill is being sacrificed and replaced with 3rd world diversity politics. instead of having flying cars and moon cities, you have broken apps and deteriorating infrastructure and services.
Britain was the most powerful IT nation in the world before India invaded and colonized its IT industry, and now your country is shit.
>$1400 for the average American
That's the total gain divided by the total population. In reality it's more like $1.4m for the (((average American)))
What you're saying means nothing. TATA is a foreign company which is doing business here and hence bringing in a net per capita income increase to the US. Why the hell should I discourage TATA from doing business here so that your cousin is helped and some "pagan" is harmed.
TATA helps more Americans, as a whole, than it harms.
Your argument is based on emotion and not reason. You are no different from a leftist crying foul because of gender differences caused by biology.
Jobs don't belong to anyone. But living standards can be improved and are improved for all Americans by this program.
No, it's better for American citizens AS A WHOLE. It' sbad for YOU, the mediocre coder.
Trump supports H1bs more than you think. In the meetings he had with SV, he specifically modeled the RAISE Act (remodeled) to remove country caps for Indians.
So you're wrong if you even think that. If you don't believe me, read the act in February vs now. The act prior favored Europeans as they live in smaller countries and are not affected by the 7% green card country cap. The act now gives blanket favorability to wages, skills, and english language capability without regard to country of origin.
The Act also does not touch the H1bs.
You being sick does not negate that it is a net gain as per every respected economist out there.
In sum, more engineers are good and that mediocre engineers dont deserve undue protections from competition. You are using a strawman argument. Read what I said and come back to me faggot.
Don't care. Anecdotes arent statistics.
He falsely assumes that either the products lower in price maintaining the profit margin and benefiting the consumer (not it doesnt happen), or that said profit is beneficial to everyone lol. Its so full of shit man!
Trump should definitely take shit for this. Specially him, given his "protectionist" stance.
I'd rather have a job but you can forward me the $1400 in BTC if you're genuinely appealing to my bottom line. Otherwise, GTKRWN.
thelayoff.com
Macy's entire online operation is an ongoing trainwreck, right down to attempted industrial espionage by some of their internal teams run by H-1Bs who don't know any better.
I worked for a decade for a certain high-tech giant HQ'd in CA. They have silos of what came to be known as "The Indian Mafia", a massive majority of them H1-Bs.
The truly awful thing is that Indians are honestly not the best workers. It's disgusting that this abuse of the H1-B program continues.
Not only tech companies, Edison, has been firing its domestic IT workers and replacing them with outsourced employees from India.
Also, for domestic engineers, If you see this stupid H1b thing happening at your company..and you think you're worth your salt...Start Looking for a new Job right PRONTO. And Train NOBODY. They're gonna fire you anyway...so why put butter on the other guy's bread by giving away your knowledge for Free?
Find a company actually values your effort and knowledge. You people are like tech artist, so creative and awesome.
>It' sbad for YOU, the mediocre coder.
lmao I'm a pipe welder
I never see pajeets at my work
Doesn't mean I don't pay attention to the rest of the country
>The Act also does not touch the H1bs.
>this delusion
It puts a cap on it and makes an department to investigate pajeets lying about what degrees they actually hold and looking into schools creditably.
Get fucked pajeet.
They are not necessarily better overall. They are better in terms of wage/work ratio. And thats why the West is going to shit.
Might as well quit producing anything in the US and outsource everything to China/Bangladesh then. Its cheaper.
Anytime (((economists))) use GDP figures as the basis for their claims you can be sure they're full of shit.
NAFTA was "good" for the US too if you only looked at the GDP. Nevermind that 99% of the wealth went to a handful of shareholders while millions of jobs were lost and many families destroyed.
I actually hope the shills are so assblasted about Trump's H1B/immigration reforms that they make this an issue again because it's one of the few that is extremely easy to meme against from both the left and right.
More immigration = lower wages. Period.
I have a friend who does software for Audi. According to him, outsourcing to India was the worst thing they did. Indians breaks down the moment they have to think on their own. Whiteman gives them a list of precise instructions (orders) and let them hammer the spaghetti code. Poos dont even understand what the fuck they're doing - they just retype (not even copy-paste, actually retype) a specific template which was provided to them.
He also told me ages ago that the next big thing Audi and the other companies are working for are smart cars. Which, when you take the new Wikileaks leaks into account, becomes fucking scary. The "your car can be remotely controlled in order to kill you" scenario was planned in advance for years.
I have some more friends who work software with the Indians, and nobody has anything nice to say about them.
Sun Microsystems had a H1b workforce of 0.5%, Oracle has one of twelve times that amount. By your logic, Oracle beat it due to H1b being good, not bad.
Adobe's market value has increased massively since its beginnings.
IBM's failures have to do with it's reliance on hardware in the age of software. Interestingly enough, its only profitable workers are H1bs, funny isnt it.
Strawman, show me actual data that contradicts my claim in OP. Sure you can provide extaneous data like "suppresses wages", which it should technically do for mediocre coders, btu that doesn't mean it doesn't have a net benefit.
These are all anecdotes, not statistics which say nothing about how the visa is good or bad as a whole. I can list nobel laureates or fields medalists who've used the H1b, like Manjul Bhargava.
Again, this is an anecdote, not an actual argument.
Displacement can accompany complementing. If I have a group project and one guy is just a net drain to the team, and i hire a cheap coder who can do the same thing, it's complementing. The other guy can work for cheaper elsewhere or with me, allowing me to increase my revenues overall.
That is how h1bs work.
Diversity politics doesn't drive H1b, if it did, Blacks would be hired at the same rate and hispanics woudl too, they arent.
Even if it helps them disproprotionately, it helps everyone else, this is an economic fact. This is the foundation of modern economics, unless you're a filthy marxist or socialist.
An Indian runs Microsoft, and has made Win10 the worst OS ever made, and the mistakes keep coming. They cancelled the last Update cycle because it was so badly botched. The answers you get if you go to the Microsoft Answers site are non-existent. They don't seem to be able to think, so they copypaste poo instead.
H1b visa changes are a part of his RAISE act which would seek to drastically change the system of acquiring a green card to work. The Poos salary level will be weighed against the U.S avg for the position so that if it lowers than what a native worker would pay then it's would harm their points thereby making it difficult to recruit them from India to replace American jobs.
>This is the foundation of modern economics, unless you're a filthy marxist or socialist.
Wrong. That's something leftists invented to attack Republicans. Kill yourself, kike.
>Research shows that H-1b visas are a net gain of $1400 for the average American Sup Forums.
I think you mean $14,000,000 for the richest kikes and $0 for everyone else. Aren't averages neat!
The average Amerikan never sees a dime of that Jood. If 65,000 Amerikans had the jobs at 150K a year what would that produce?
Wanna know how I know your some designated shitting street paki getting over paid, to pay for his expensive luxury car and still can't get quality pussy?
>Research shows
no it doesnt lol
> per capita GDP growth, efficiency, labor market freedom
so in other words the study doesnt show anything
I used to work for a large American internet provider as a developer for internet infrastructure. That is until management got the idea to hire poos and lay me off. I met a former female coworker months later and asked her how she was doing. "Terrible" she replied. "Not only do we have to work in the Indians, we also have to clean up their mess after them." She worked weekends too and wasn't allowed to take vacation because of the problems with the poos.
For me it worked out pretty good after a while. I'm now a scientist at the university, and not only is it we don't get told to work with incompetent people, we get to weed them out as well, based on their scientific work. We have some poo students, but they are all shit tier and none of them ever came even close to being hired.
>The employer isn't the one making 1400, it's the average American
no lol
This is objectively true.
You do gain, you just don't see it. Why do you think purchasing power si so much higher in the US than in Europe?
Laid off people are the only ones complaining though, that's the point. Mediocre coders will have to adjust and work for less (ie. 120k USD instead of 200k USD) that is not our problem if Americans as a whole gain from it.
And this is the free market in action, if you want to fix possible indenture of labor, work for the removal of country caps in the green card process, like Trump does with the RAISE Act.
Yes, it's good for you as it reduces costs. The rest of the country gains too. Mediocre computer programmers are a MINORITY of a MINORITY, and those are the people affected negatively by H1bs.
Also the RAISE ACT DOES NOT HURT H1bs. CURRENT CAPS ON H1bs are in fact NOT TOUCHED by the RAISE ACT.
IN fact it allows CURRENT H1b holders to adjust to permanent residence faster.
t. I work for a congressman who is going to co sponsor the Raise Act as soon as it doubles employment based immigration numbers.
We support the current version too, but it'd always be better to get what we want.
They are better for the country overall, they're not better overall than the best of American coders.
They're using per capita figures. NAFTA is also good for the US. The only people opposed to it are the ones like you.
Trump changed his mind on H1b long before, why do you think spouses of H1b holders still have work aurhotization?
I've been to meetings with policy makers, Miller had concerns about H1b but he has been assuaged.
We are targeting hispanics and illegal aliens.
Another useless anecdote with zero relevance.
>This is objectively true.
no its not lol
Damn I should just adopt a kid from China in that case because they'll probably have a higher IQ than my kids, and get higher salaries in the end. If you're a true capitalist you'll do the same
>corporations profiting
>Americans jobless
SEE GOY IT'S WORKING IN YOUR FAVOR!
CEOs are catching on that indians just cannot do the work that westerners are capable of. A lot of companies are going in the red because they have so much garbage to fix due to outsourcing. It's good for short term growth but if you want your company to survive 20 years you need whites and asians in the office. Ideally a ratio of 1 indian per 50 humans.
on a scale of 1 to poo how indian are you OP?
scared that you're about to be deported?
>get foreign cheaper workers
>CEOs make millions
>They invest it in rapidly growing economies like China
>Less money in american citizens pockets
Well I do want the great Satan to die so maybe you have a point. Most people do benefit from this and the US will be destroyed.
hey goy, let me use numbers to explain how you need to let in mud people or else everything falls apart. just trust me, im a jew, jews are good with numbers, no need to show actual sources or anything
You are a liar and a retard--so I guess that means you're a pajeet.
I run a dev team in a major mobile app dev house. When our fuckwit mgmt decided to eat a slice of the H1B pie, my entire team minus a single engineer and QA lead were replaced by pajeets. I used to be able to get five stable builds done in a week. Now I'm lucky if it is one build every five fucking weeks. Pajeets are, in general, absolute garbage. With the American team we had a breakfix success rate of 94%--now we're down to 50% some releases, and that isn't even counting the new regressions made you disingenuous sack of shit.
Want to know how I know pajeets are liars? Out of every four pajeets I interview, three are outright liars that can't pass a test that would validate their ridiculously long and absurdly formatted resumes. You think we don't read the fucking news retard? Your country is full of fake universities where a bunch of fake men go to get fake degrees so they can go fuck with my life.
You are a joke. I hope you know that. The few actual Americans left in the major dev shops look at you like a marginally useful slave. When I look at you retards stammering through another your lies in broken English, I wonder how I keep my calm.
Do you think it is random that a couple of pajeets get beat within a half an inch of their life every weekend in cities like Chicago? I know devs that go to bars just to get hammered and beat on pajeets. Fuck off you shit, otherwise, you'll find out what the NET GAIN is for you.
Google hires are like 80% retards 10% Really Smart People 10% Autistic Spergs.
Most of the marketing and "com" teams are really stupid. They're just virtue signaling fags, who talk about how great SF is but aren't from there, and spend most of their time working in Mountain View. They are also mostly overeducated white's and asians, and occasionally you have a couple of really dumbass niggers in there who are obviously there for diversity. They mostly just look busy and pretend to work by "scheduling meetings" and "touch bases." Half they time they don't work and are "working from home" which really taking pictures of salads on IG.
The indians and chinese are for the most part really retarded. They just hangout amongst themselves and are mediocre at their jobs. They work a lot tho. The indians are usually less qualified and really irritating to work with because all indians have this horrible hubris. The chinese tend to be qualified but unimaginative and don't solve the problems unless its very straight forward.
You never hear from the autistic spergs because they're autistic and they normally do dev ops or something and they just live life on call.
What he said and then some, it's great to cut costs and works out for a little bit, then poo's slowly shit up everything. Best thing to do is outsource something, demand a huge bonus when you cut costs, when shit collapses in 3yrs due to your outsourcing, bail out. Who cares, you got a nice comfy bonus and you won't have to shovel the poo's shit that's been building up for 3yrs.
White ex-employee sues tech company for favoring workers from India
dallasnews.com
Most of you guys are frauds. Rampant cheating, socially awkward rapists, and literally one of the worst regarding personal hygiene. Chinks are obnoxious filthy cheats as well but as least most of them don't rape or smell like shit all the time.
It would be deported to Israel.
I hate the US and immigration of non whites to the US is a good thing. The sooner that ship sinks the sooner non white immigration to Ireland will stop.
> there is no reason to oppose H1-B
There is if the people who are coming in on an H1-B are culturally incompatible with our country, so low IQ people from less free countries arent allowed because those people vote for what they know.
This is an opinion, the market disagrees since purchases have only increased.
H1b visa changes are NOT part of the RAISE ACT. Green card allocation is changed FAVORABLY to current H1b holders: tech.economictimes.indiatimes.com
Wrong, free markets are a right wing thing not a leftist thing. Kill yourself poorfag.
Your anti jewish conspiracy theories only make it easier for me to show these things to Stephen Miller and convince him even further in support of Employment Based immigration. Fact is data shows that it helps everyone overall.
They see it in the form of reduced prices, companies in America can charge fewer prices due to increased access to cheap technology, a direct result of H1b.
If you don't believe me, walk into a European store and try to buy some consumer goods, do the same in the US. Take $100 with you, see how much you can buy in each place.
If they're getting overpaid, a lot of people prior to you are wrong..
I linked the research, zero facts as usual from the average basement dweller. Those are all objective economic measures used to indicate economic wellbeing. lol, atleast this anecdote is more believable than the others
Yes, according to statistics, if you don't like them it's your own problem for being a leftie.
>Research shows that H-1b visas are a net gain of $1400 for the average American Sup Forums.
How is that gain distributed by the way? If I own stocks in a company, then it works out for me. But if I work via wages, then I don't see how this makes a gain.
Good one Shatter.
all the coding, communication, and laziness issues in this thread are real, but the worst thing is if you actually crack open their coconut head, you will find the most arrogant mother fuckers in the world. most h1bs think they earned their right to work in the US through pure intelligence and good looks. many are from the indian upper class and snooty as fuck
Be careful what you wish for, my Irish friend. The Russians and Chinese will be far less benevolent then us Cucks.
I'm currently a programmer at a healthcare informatics company. Before me they had a team of pajeets who made barely functioning code.
They used to do things like say features were added when the features' code wouldn't even compile.
The first 6 months on the job was spent on various assignments intended to fix and salvage their code. It just couldn't be done, so I ended up rewriting fucking everything.
The company laid off Pajeet Team 6 and now only hire American-born and trained programmers. There's fewer programmers now than there were before but at least shit runs.
>We support the current version too, but it'd always be better to get what we want.
What you want isn't what's best for the country. You are traitors that place wealth above the home that spawned you.
You and that congressman dick up your ass represent everything wrong with this country.
I sincerely hope your skull finds a small piece of lead flying into it at a high velocity. You deserve it.
>H1-B visas are a net gain for the average American.
>Yes, workers lose out on it.
>The article uses extra per capita GDP growth
>Jewish owners make more shekels profit hiring foreign slaves
>"But if you average out all the money we made, everyone is better off goyim!"
The Chinese will eventually clear up the middle east and Europe, Russia, China, India and Africa will begin trading without you.
You will have South america and Canada though. Thats good right?
As a programmer, a good portion of my work is just fixing some garbage a pajeet left behind, and I can charge an obscene amount of money for it.
Also, I do homework assignments for rich pajeets on the side -- so they're paying me instead of learning, then getting degrees and getting hired by big companies, and then going on to write shit code for which I'll get hired to fix.
If you've ever worked with Indians in a tech field, you will know exactly why they are unwanted. Zero team mentality, will gladly accept your help then stonewall you in return. Help and employ only their own kind, consistently use underhanded tactics to get ahead at the expense of others. Fastest way to kill a good team dynamic is to hire an Indian.
>They see it in the form of reduced prices, companies in America can charge fewer prices due to increased access to cheap technology, a direct result of H1b.
>If you don't believe me, walk into a European store and try to buy some consumer goods, do the same in the US. Take $100 with you, see how much you can buy in each place.
I'm rich as fuck kike and know your game. Compare the durability of the goods long haul without a fraudulent enhancer like outlay hedonic adjustment or engineered unit termination.
Fucking this. All this 'efficiency' and price improvements come out to a fatter profit margin on goods for corporations (of which consumers might get a sliver of in the form of reduced prices) and getting the latest model of vaccum cleaner out the door faster.
>I work for a congressman
Thanks for admitting you're a shill. Breaking news folks, shills want more immigration in order to drive down wages.
Denial.
Your genetic argument makes sense, but individual choice is in the best interest of the particular American family at hand. American families should look out for their own children, not the children of mediocre programmers.
Corporations are bad = marxist argument from zizeks playbook.
Anecdotes, Indians are generally more competent than Asians in CS due to their greater respect for IP laws. See I can make them up too. Long term growth is an example of "I have no argument", I've had people use that on me a number of times. It's just an empty statement without any backing.
I'm a US Citizen and a staffer in the US Senate.
Globalization leads to net economic growth to the US. The only person who unironically opposes free trade in the republican party with any power, or is associated with it, is Steve Bannon.
Jew conspiracy theories are not welcome in our government.
Anecdote.
This is about Americans as a whole, not about your inability to leverage your human capital for higher wages and employment opportunities.
Not statistically true, but ok.
Anecdotes and proves my original point.
Ireland is poorer than the United States, due to its socialistic policies. It is good for remaining in the EU FT Zone, but the EU is a net loss for global capitalism.
Especially with its fines and non competes levied upon American corporations.
This is an argument that is outdated with the current political paradigm, very few people can win elections using this. Very few people also tend to care about this, hence they will be ignored.
I'm sure the Chinese are just interested in trade. Just like the Europeans were interested in trade, right?
>t naive
>How is that gain distributed by the way?
Everything for the corporates in suits, nothing for the rest.
HURR DURR IM OP. LOOK WHEN COMPANIES MAKE MONEY YOU CAN DIVIDE IT BY 350MILLION, THAT'S HOW MUCH EACH AMERICAN IS EARNING
Yes but do you have to look at them? Fuck you, you sellout.
You went through all that trouble, but didn't answer my question.
Exactly. Show's over folks. OP lost.
All (((hedge and big pool fund managers))) own at least one Tesla...spiels everything you need to know.
Most horrifying thing I've seen is CMO's hiring a team of poo's to market to US consumers and fire the previous team. What the fuck does a poo know about US consumer behavior? Absolutely nothing and it turns into a poo fest within 6 months.
Actually, per capita, we would be one of the richest states and also 96% white.
Nukes have put an end to large scale war. Who starts wars these days apart from you? Begon jew!
You realize you keep saying 'anecdote' but then posting claims with no back up.
And you didn't deny being a pajeet. Wonderful. Have a nice life faggot.
I work in IT business and sometimes it takes 3 Indian compsci "doctors" to do one man's job
POO
Get the fuck out pajeet no one wants you here