Necessary for the protection of Europe. We need at least 5 or 6.
We only got 1. 1 measily nuclear-powered one. The two Italian carriers are a bit of a joke, they can only carry 18 Harriers/F-35B and a few helis each. Same for the Spanish carrier (31 F-35Bs). Europe only has one more carrier under construction, the Italian Trieste. All of these carriers have conventional propulsion.
This is all pathetic. Let's start building the real carriers, the nuclear powered ones! Like china is planning to build a 110,000mt CATOBAR nuclear carrier, the largest carrier in the world, larger than the Gerald Ford class carriers.
I just want nuclear powered cars so I don't have to buy gas anymore.
Jackson White
>Spanish carrier
>31 F-35Bs
Maybe half that at a push.
Nuclear isn't needed, neither are carriers unless you're doing force projection. Would would Europe even do with carriers? Spend it on a space corps.
Daniel Clark
Calm down Deitmar, such things need not concern you anymore.
Ryan Campbell
Bomb the middle east
Carson Butler
The US should leave NATO and ally with Russia and Britain to rape Berlin again.
Jackson Diaz
HOLY FUCK THIS GUY IS RIGHT THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX NEEDS TO PUMP OUT A BUNCH MORE OVERPRICED OVERBUILT OVERSIZED OVERBUDGET BOATS NO COUNTRY ACTUALLLY NEEDS FUCKIN A THE WAR MACHINE NEEDS TO CRANK SHIT UP BANKS CORPORATIONS AND STOCKHOLDERS NEED THEM SHEKELS BOYS GET OUT THERE AND SPREAD THE WORD CONTACT POLITICIANS GET THEM TO WASTE I MEAN SPEND OUR TAX DOLLARS WHAT A GREAT IDEA OP GREAT THREAD FUCK YAH WAR IS INEVITABLE IN EUROPE SO AIR CRAFT CARRIERS BEST USED FOR INVADING OTHER COUNTRIES IS A GREAT IDEA FOR DEFENSE OF A CONTINENT
Hudson Nguyen
Also EU Nuclear carrier group?
EU?
Nice bait, the EU will never have an army or a carrier group.
Lucas Cox
>Nuclear isn't needed, neither are carriers unless you're doing force projection. Nuclear carriers are absolutely necessary. The French carrier was the only European carrier regularly taking part in Indian ocean ops against the Taliban together with US forces. Conventionally powered carriers can't even get there.
Sebastian Robinson
>krauts caring about the protection of Europe >meanwhile literally spearhead the invasion of Europe by subhuman savages
why do we allow krauts to live?
Austin Ward
>Conventionally powered carriers can't even get there
shiggy diggy
Grayson Harris
this
Colton Morgan
This
Mason Cook
Europe's safety was lost when Germany allowed in 3 million niggers within 6 months.
Fuck off and kill yourself.
Christian Sanders
The EU will need a real military. The more it keeps pushing against the US, especially without member nations paying their dues, the less we will do the EU's bidding.
Dylan Jackson
Isn't this piece of shit carrier stuck in port for repairs for a year or so?
Elijah Gray
>allowed in 3 million niggers within 6 months. WRONG
Greece let in 1.5 million illegals over 2yrs and Italy 600,000 Africans and Bangladeshis over 4yrs - most of the Africans are stuck in Italy or move on to France and the UK. Hardly any go to Germany as it is to cold there.
James Garcia
So you need a huge shit to move two planes on the other side of the Mediterranean? Planes that usually fly from Sicily and Sardinia which are closer to the other side of the Mediterranean than any navy can be?
Mason Sanchez
>no ramp Shit tier carrier
Hudson Collins
>a german with a tiny dick who has to compensate we have tried 7 times to build a carrier, not one was ever finished. Germany is not a naval power. Let the nations that actually have a large coastline defend their own waters. I dont get it why germany always has to have its nose in things that are not our bussiness. First this joke of a country should build a real army that is actually capable of defending the border also what would the current EU even do with carriers besides fishing migrants out of the mediterranean? Whatever they would do, it would not be in your interest.
Aaron Smith
>We need at least 5 or 6. You gonna build them with all that that brown power your importing? You really want to go to war in boats built by them?
David Thomas
hey hans, why don't you built your own? :)
Oliver Foster
>as it is to cold there. As if they care. They can leave the radiator on all day because the average Hans is paying power bills for Africans too.
Luis Gray
The french are buying one of the two new ones the UK are building.
Christian Jenkins
Germany is leading Europe, of course we care.
Logan Cook
>he doesn't know how much a rod of fissile material costs
Oliver Ross
>protection of Europe
so the will be sinking refugee boats in the mediterranean?
no?
So you want more weapons and power for the political cunts destroying Europe, while reeeing about the protection of Europe
What did I expect from a kraut anyway
Brayden Harris
>we have tried 7 times to build a carrier, not one was ever finished. BS
We never really tried. 2 of these "tries" were Italian non-completed carriers. 1 never left the design stage. 1 was in 1918, so does not count. Leaving us with 3-4 actually attempted conversions/new-builts in 1942 and 1943, all of which were halted for good reason.
>unless you're doing force projection It's what all the cool countries are doing. Mine's gonna get stuck in a nuclear war with a tiny Asian country that's friends with a really big Asian country with more nukes. We're may very well sustain massive infrastructure damage, and someone needs to carry the fucking torch. Might as well be the EU.
Jose Green
>They can leave the radiator on all day because the average Hans is paying power bills for Africans too. The Africans stay in Italy or go to France or the UK, not Germany. Look it up.
Xavier Stewart
>The french are buying one of the two new ones the UK are building. No, they are not.
Isaac Myers
you guys don't have the skill or money to do it. not even the work ethic.
you could try negotiating a deal with the US where they build the carriers, then lease them to you with a nuclear crew, maybe. But you'll never be able to pay your imported shitskins their gibs and the US for supercarriers at the same time.
Christian Robinson
>Express >source Ok, there, lad. You can go back to bed.
Owen Martinez
The EU will only use the carriers to ferry more rape into Europe, they'll use the soldiers to crush any nationalists that want the rapefugees stopped and they'll censor everything with Germany's "Ministry of Truth".
Fuck that, I don't want and my government does not want an EU army on our doorstep with the potential to cause us problems, it's not happening.
It's not happening so dream on Hans Abdul bin Rahman Noodles al Heinz Barbecue Sauce.
Jose Lopez
>I can't handle facts or quotes from my own dear leader Merkel
>You can go back to bed. I'd say the same to you if it wasn't occupied with Jamal and your wife.
Nicholas Wright
>you guys don't have the skill or money to do it. >400 billion annual trade surplus >Number 1 worldwide in high tech manufacturing
Ok there, mate. Germany is probably the only country in the whole world which can efficiently build a nuclear aircraft carrier that works.
Blake Peterson
>the eu needs its own army lol fuck off globalishits
Logan Campbell
In 2011 they bought into one of the carriers and will share it because of their defense cuts and the fact their current carrier is broken and old.
Abdul, you're not getting an army, it's not happening.
Parker Lee
80% of Pakis in Europe live in England. 75% of Somalis and Nigerians. etc.
We may have Turks, Kurds and Syrians, but you got your Commonwealth black bulls and Pakis. There is a reason why your gov doesn't talk about the real figures of migration to you.
Julian Wood
Maintenanceis a waste of money. Just have train troops so you have enough when the shit hits the fan and have enough factories that can pump out war machines if needed.
Cameron Baker
>Criticises me for posting the Express >Posts the Metro Here's some real stats.
Levi Lewis
>Abdul, you're not getting an army, it's not happening. We already got our EU army. You are so cucked, you will be part of our EU army even after brexit!
Kevin Richardson
Can Europe even afford 5 or 6 carriers? They'll just end up being 5 or 6 derelict rapefugee hovels.
Benjamin Young
It would be far more dramatic than the stupid fat Yankee carriers with their brass band and marching girls doing stars and stripes in a loop on deck, You Krauts could get a huge Oompah band and a hundred or so slap dancers in lederhosen, that's pretty much all carriers are good for.
Joseph Peterson
>we didnt really want to build a carrier so it doesnt count cry some more, then get over the fact that we lost the war. Look around your country, or even europe. Right now a fucking aircraft carrier is not very high on our list of priorities. Before it even can be considered to build one we would need to make sure that the people in command are actually reasonable human beings, which the current heads of europe are not.
Ryder Scott
"No".
We've been one of the only people in the EU actively blocking your army plans. So save your shit.
>UK Slated to lead I don't think you know what that opinion piece means..... Don't post it again.
Alexander Wright
>Here's some real stats. >real stats >2011
Please. Your Muslim population has nearly exceeded 4 million already, while our Turkish population is falling. Not to mention the fact that your stats conveniently say in a footnote that you actually do not count Muslims!
-------- Islam is the second largest religion in the United Kingdom, with results from the United Kingdom Census 2011 giving the UK Muslim population in 2011 as 2,786,635, 4.4% of the total population.[3] The vast majority of Muslims in the United Kingdom live in England: 2,660,116 (5.02% of the population). 76,737 Muslims live in Scotland (1.45%), 45,950 in Wales (1.50%), and 3,832 in Northern Ireland (0.21%).[4][5][6]
In 2014 the total population of Muslims in Great Britain was estimated to have increased to 3,114,992, of which about half (1,554,022) were born overseas.[1] Across England and Wales the Muslim population numbered 3,047,000 (97.8% of all UK Muslims) or 5.4% of the total population.
It is estimated that by 2020, the number of UK Muslims will exceed 4 million.
Jordan Morales
don't we get a couple ships and carriers from bongs for brexit?
Jason Murphy
It is not an opinion piece. There are countless EU battlegroup, the UK isn't pulling out of them. It wants to remain subject to EU control on all fronts including the military.
>Can Europe even afford 5 or 6 carriers? USA: trade deficit of 800 billion a year. EU: trade surplus
USA can afford the carriers! EU is poor!
Dude, you should hear yourself.
Levi Hill
china also plans to build nuclear powered penis
Anthony Butler
Stop cuxplaining, you cuck.
Noah Lewis
>you should hear yourself same for you
Josiah Roberts
you really don't have a clue on what it takes to build and operate one. German workers are a joke, we get your faggot engineers over here in the states from those gay international corporations, and they do nothing but embarrass themselves and take vacation days.
Where's your shipyard equipped to put the thing together? Where are you going to get the personnel to operate the equipment without nuclear catastrophe? You simply have no idea the level of pre-checks required just to get the thing rolling. American spend the greater half of the last century streamlining our entire country and infrastructure for military. Now look at the spending. It's completely out of your reach.
Once you get it built and a crew, then what? You could buy the aircraft compatible with a CATOBOR, but you just going to pull pilots ready to land on supercarriers out of thin air?
It would be many decades before you cucks could get it all together. You don't have the skill or dedication for that. >they'll just end up being 5 or 6 derelict rapefugee hovels
Andrew Perry
suddenly europe will realize it can't give out free health care and simultaneously build and man nuclear aircraft carriers.
Cooper Robinson
THE ONLY THING THE EU NEEDS CARRIERS FOR IS TO SINK MIGRANT SHIPS
Luke Rogers
we could if our debt was as big as yours
Kevin Rogers
we wouldnt even need to sink them, we just need to stop rescuing them. Mother nature and natural selection will do the rest >lets go five times over capacity in an inflatable boat and try to cross the mediterranean >doctors, engineers, programmers
Daniel Myers
Says the ramp faggot How about you and all the other ramp fag navies have a frotage session
>hans poster earlier talking about europe uniting after centuries of wars >hans now talking about europe needing to build nuclear power aircraft carriers
Topkek, yuropoor military SAD. You mad we got superior airforce and infinite supply of mexicans to fill in our marines?
Nicholas Ross
Sure, build carriers, prepare for the next war by planning for the last one.
You don't have an overseas empire to police like America so you don't even have that reason for putting do much money into a nearly obsolete weapons platform
Wyatt Smith
>programmers they still would come
Brandon Morales
You know carriers are expensive right? You won't have as much money to give to sandniggers. Are you sure you can live with that?
Jaxson Russell
great idea only the strongest bulls should be allowed to rape our women
Evan Sanchez
And the best Filipino sailors
Ryan Howard
I assume you and your family have already volunteered so tolerant, go show those evil racists what it means to live in a multicultural society
Joseph Clark
you have 6 seconds to rationalize why boats need to have a nuclear reactor on board
time starts now
Brandon Wright
you only have a refuel once every couple of decades
Ryan Hill
foreign force projection. now shut up, Pedro.
Juan Sanchez
>instant bullshit full of fallacies >doesn't just admit they wants to overcompensate their boats like they wish they could with their penis
Luis Gomez
Why is it called the eu army when 95% of it is just stolen shit from France?
Robert Murphy
>instant bullshit oh yeah, how so?
Josiah Adams
>m-muh i don't need to refuel! >who gives a shit about irradiating the ocean and all of the crew members on board
you fucking assholes
James Miller
Germany is too busy being cucked by Muslims. Enjoy your sharia patrols faggot.
Jordan Bennett
They don't NEED one, but it does make a lot of shit a lot simpler and a lot more cost effective. It also takes a massive load off of the logistics of handling a vessel of it's size.
Wyatt Hill
> didn't read your reply posts
Never mind, you are apparently a retard who can't do the most basic elements of research. The chances of you being a flat earther in my eyes just skyrocketed.
Ryder Stewart
last time I checked a muslim was still mayor of your capital, so don't act like muslims aren't a problem in your country
Kayden Phillips
>flat earther Quaint. The only flat earthers are the retarded people on the right who think having an irradiated world is the right path to take.
Cameron Powell
nigga you fucked up. the US government parks their nuclear vessels up in japan's asshole. You know how nutso the Japanese are about the US irradiating their shit? They've got all their radiation detection gizmos in the water 24/7 monitoring the US.
no radiation.
You want to talk about fucking up the Ocean, active sonar. That one fucks up sea life goooood.
Seriously though, explain how only having to refuel every couple of decades as bullshit. Cause you didn't, you just changed the topic and tried to drag the conversation into a DIFFERENT area you know nothing about.
Colton Carter
>Germany You're not allowed to have a real military. That includes aircraft carriers.
Nathan Stewart
Yes yes, we're both losers. I'm not sure that should make either of our nations happy.
Xavier Lee
Why does Europe need aircraft carriers? To carry more refugees from Africa?
Cooper King
Europe must be disarmed and split in Russian and American zones of control. Anything else is going to lead to awful lot of problems for everyone involved.
Charles Nguyen
>don't leave the EU bro we don't want a socialist superstate with it's own army >dude don't worry about having foreign troops stationed in your country designed to quell rioting more efficiently because they have no connection to the people >one love one Europe dude
Mason Perez
Source?
Ian Harris
>quell rioting more efficiently >being against the military stopping Antifa rioting
k, lad
Cameron Rogers
You'd receive more radiation standing on the fucking flight deck than standing on the deck above the reactor. Dipshit.
David Ramirez
Quite, and you're the sort of retard who doesn't research to find out that US radiation protocol is so strict that the average reactor core worker (someone who literally goes inside the fucking core) is only to be subjected to an additional .03 RADS per year than you do sitting in your dad's lazy boy shoving Cheetos in your mouth and jerking off to Natural Discovery.
FYI you just sitting there are accruing .05 RADS per year. The guy inside the fucking reactor is getting .07-.08. Per year.
I know you don't know what this actually means as it relates to anything, mainly because you're a ridiculous faggot out trying to get attention like I'm your meth head father or some shit. I also know you're going to continue to squeal "MUH RADIATION" like a good little pig.
But seriously you are pic related.
Camden Morgan
>You're not allowed to have a real military. That includes aircraft carriers. we found a work around
Wouldn't something like this be more your style germany... opening your ass to migrants
Nolan Hernandez
Germany doesn't need a carrier because the cost of a carrier battle group (carriers alone are missile bait) would require stripping all other forces of funding.
OP is a Russian shill who objects to an effective German army and air force. Fuck off back to Moscow.
Tyler Butler
fpbp
William Morris
>Why is it called the eu army when 95% of it is funded by Germany? Answer: disguise
Blake Wilson
>leftist authoritarian government will stop leftist authoritarian terrorist groups Deluded much Hanz?
Nathan Moore
We all know it's coming.
Luke Williams
>what once took 10/10 bait, now only requires a dash of 1/10 Sup Forums has changed.