Why do civic natcucks think minorities will embrace limited government and other conservative values?

Why do civic natcucks think minorities will embrace limited government and other conservative values?

All evidence shows that browns will ALWAYS vote for gibs when push comes to shove.

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>Why do civic natcucks think minorities will embrace limited government and other conservative values

these people dont even exist.

its just jews or other minorities larping as white civic nationalists so they cant move to the west for welfare + white women

You're fake news.
I just don't know if you known it or no t

If limited government and conservative were superior, even an idiot would support them.

Right? They are superior yeah?

they don't think these things through

it's like catholic traditionalist natsocs who are against abortion, even thought its one of the only things keeping dumb minority populations from exploding, who would then vote abortion back into legality anyway

when it comes to politics feelz beats realz everytime

This is why we need secession so those of us who don't want to foot the bill for all these gibs.

I can't stand this midget jew. Don't understand why Sup Forums has lately been shilling for him as an "intelligent man" when he doesn't even understand that ideology and culture comes from ethnicity. And pointing at individuals who may have completely assimilated doesn't change that fact because they are an exception to the rule. People are naturally tribal and want to stay with their own. If what Ben is saying were true, there would be no such thing as white flight.

Also nice to know that Sup Forums now is supporting a guy who is a openly in favor of white genocide.

Explain to me how you implement/enforce national socialism without invalidating the rights of American citizens.
We are having enough trouble even deporting illegals, you think it's going to be easy to strip citizenship and deport legal US citizens?

What evidence? I'm brown while not the most conservative, I definitely am feeling Shapiro's shit

I USED to be very liberal, but then I got out of college, more freedom, looked up shit myself. Ideology is definitely what matters. Most liberals are oppressed cucks looking to perpetuate that.

And yes, this means blacks are oppressed too. EVERYBODY is. Just not in the ways the libs want you to think.

They don't. They want cheap labor at the expense of the American worker.

Because the Browning of America is over hyped and will fall by the wayside. Brownies have to go back, be marginalized, or be bleached. That's the long term plan. No one thinks browns will learn how to think straight en masse. And it's.not genetically possible for different races to get along en masse anyway.

Niggers and spics are VERY religious.

you might be able to use that to positively affect their culture if you could get them into a church that didn't automatically promise them absolution in exchange for gibs.

>YALL NEEDA GET RIGHT WIT GAWD!!!!
>gives $5
>YOU. ARE. BLESSID!!!!!!

Ben Shapiro is not even a civic nationalist, he is a free trade loving, corporate cock sucker

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Are you embracing a failed ideology (civic nationalism) just because you think that you don't have other alternative?

No. I'm asking how can you have national socialism without infringing on inalienable rights granted to American citizens.
Do you have an answer?

>Why do civic natcucks think minorities will embrace limited government and other conservative values?

All the "limited government" red parts of America are entirely dependent financially on the blue states.

You may support limited government but you're still subhuman waste.

>National socialism or white minority in white countries.

Your premise is just ridiculous.

because 90% of the civic nationalists here are non-white or mixed race

go home

>republicans are welfare queens
no surprise desu

Real economy vs financial economy.

I assure you, ben shapiro will think quite different of the browning of Israel.

a jewish cunt not caring about mixing ... how is that news?

Reminder: Without White men America would have gone full blown Communist by now.
We are the only thing maintaining civilization.

All of Latin America is very religious. They're also extremely socialist, violent, unintelligent, and dysfunctional.

This has noting to do with Democrats promising gibs or making mestizos leftists- Latin America makes the Democratic Party look far-right by comparison.

Civic nationalists don't exist, it's just liberals in disguise trying to subvert their opposition

>They're also extremely socialist, violent, unintelligent, and dysfunctional.
That's just part of having native blood

What premise? You didn't answer a simple question. Nobody in this thread did.
How do you enforce national socialism without infringing inalienable rights of US citizens?

If you refuse to answer or cannot answer, do not bother replying.
I have not said what my ideology is because it is irrelevant to the question so stop making baseless assumptions and dodging the question.

They don't believe in race realism. They think ideology trumps genetics and tribalism.

>civic natcucks
Ben Shapiro isn't a civil nationalist because (((nationalism))) is garbage.

Demoralize diversity and strangle immigration.

Red States don't contribute state tax funds to their welfare programs as much as blue states. Blue states tax their citizens more than red States and contribute this funds to welfare programs. So if the graphic you posted was posted next to another graphic which showed the percentages of both state and federal tax funds that went to welfare programs then the red state percentages would rise very little and the blue states percentages would all rise to above the levels of the red States.

>How do you enforce national socialism without infringing inalienable rights of US citizens?

Reinterpret parts of the constitution, remove citizenship from non-whites, and abolish democracy.

>Easy

Of course not. It will be the most daunting project we've ever engaged in since pushing the Muslims out of Iberia and the Balkans:m. But it must be done, no matter how difficult it is, because the alternative is Brazil and South Africa.

The people you're callin American citizens can make that claim
only because leftists took control of the country and handed them some paper. Under the founding terms of this country, citizenship was 100% limited only
to white people. That is our nation, that is who we are.

None of this is new, by the way- Coolidge forcefully deported plenty of Mestizos with citizenship. I'm
not taking about illegal immigrants- I'm
talking about full-on legal American citizens who were removed from the country.

And we don't need "National Socialism", I have no interest in trying to revive some 20th century German ideology. We just need white peoples to have homes.

You're next though

You don't. You drastically reduce all immigration, and then drastically reduce free money from the government.

And then you have based rich philanthropists offer cash in exchange for voluntary vasectomies.

A NatSoc government would be smaller than the federal government is today. If our tax dollars were only going towards white people there would be no massive epidemic of permanent welfare dependence, there would be no medicare abuse, we wouldn't even need an IRS as we could have simple flat tax rates.

Why do you think a smaller government would be worse than what we have now?

Your question is simply absurd, no one is advocating for national socialism.

Beta Ben on the Alt lite why am I not surprised.

>remove citizenship from non-whites
You cannot remove citizenship from someone because of their race.
America is a republic aka representative democracy.

What you suggest is no better than leftist marxists who also want to destroy America for what they want.

>Virtue signalling
I don't neccessarily disagree with him, but why choose this hill to die on?

Ben hates Trump because his political instincts are awful.

>States with high non-white populations receive the most federal aid
Shocking! Why does your map break it down by state instead of race or party affiliation? Oh, right, because you don't get the desired impression once you realize it's all the blacks and native Americans in red states taking that money.

Wrong.

Ben Shapiro is Jewish. Why doesn't he realize that those same brown people he supports hate Jewish people even more than the whites do? Does he now get it?

>You cannot remove citizenship from someone because of their race.
Says who? Marxists in the 60's that determined race to be a "protected class" which had never before existed in the US?

If you embrace marxist civil rights bullshit, then how do you think you can fight against their agenda?

>America is a republic aka representative democracy.
No, it doesn't mean democracy at all, Democracy is the whole fucking problem.

Because he's a jew.

ben shapiro is your typical two-faced neocon zionist kike. open borders multiculti (genocide) for the goyim, ethnostate for the jews

G-d, this.

So you cap and control immigration and get acceptance of the issue. That doesn't alter the demographics of people already here.

Jews feel they fit better in a mongrelized brown "society" like Brazil or South Africa than in a white country.

You gotta understand Jews live almost totally segregated in the US, they have seperate schools, summer camps, police, etc

Japs were interned because their race during WW2. America has a lot of historical examples of discrimination based on race.

>A leaf telling americans how to run their country

Ben Shapiro is crazy smart and is completely right on transgenders and the elitist fascism. The biggest jew moment of his life was when he played a jew song on a violin and said he wanted to be the first rabbi to go to supreme court.

I do think he should be involved in the government.

>Knows nothing about historic examples of republics
Republic of Venice had no representation for a huge portion of the city - those considered unrelated to the founders.

>Roman Republic
4 Votes for ALL prols (no savings or property)
100 votes for top 5% of wealth.
100 votes for everyone else.

>US/UK
Property requirements to vote extending into near the end of the 19th century.

Universal equal suffrage is a modern anomaly that would rightly horrify ancients and our near ancestors. It is a horrendous idea that is not in accordance with a successful government, but rather, fulfilling fantasies of "equality" because Western governments became so powerful they could survive in spite of this abject stupidity.

because (((civic nationals))) are just a bunch of kikes or beta male white cucks, or anti-white shitskins trying to get white pussy...

>Under the founding terms of this country, citizenship was 100% limited only to white people.
Prove it to me.

>None of this is new, by the way- Coolidge forcefully deported plenty of Mestizos with citizenship. I'm
>not taking about illegal immigrants- I'm
>talking about full-on legal American citizens who were removed from the country.
I would also like to see the source for this.

So what is the whole problem with civic nationalism if you do not advocate for national socialism?
White people have homes, are you in support for a new ideology or and existing one? Don't give me that no labels crap you know everything fits a classification.

That's right. Forcible deportation are politically untenable barring some kind of spectacular event.

Look at the optimistic projections of leftists that want the browning of America. You see that asians and blacks stay basically flat while whites shrink and lationos increase.

This is a totally fixable problem, all you have to do is build a wall and intact policies to restrict new immigration, and then cut off government money that subsidies mexicans popping out babies. The coup de grace would be voluntary sterilization programs but even without them we can stop and modestly reverse the browning.

The increasing latino proportion is entirely dependent upon government subsidy, remove that and it stops.

Right.

National Socialism is an unrepeatable ideology because it was the result of a particular moment in the German history.

GTKRWN.

You legitimately have no idea what Fascism is, and you have no idea what Shapiro's politics are.
Trannies are a completely periphery issue brought about by the gay rights movement, and that as well was entirely pushed by Jews in media. Shapiro is loyal only to his own tribe. He isn't American. Stop being a brain washed goyim.

Neoliberal states have shitloads of non whites too.

And yet they don't rely on federal aid.

Weird.

Democracy is one of the most retarded, destructive, and dysgenic systems ever hoisted upon us. Democracy is the exact thing we are here to fight against.

I don't support the liberal Whig reberals who led the American Revolution- our people were in this land for centuries before they hung up their red white and blue flag everywhere. But even those
morons had enough wisdom to severely limit the voting franchise to white men who owned property. Under the founding terms of naturalization in 1790, citizenship was limited only to white people; no non-white can claim to be an American under anything else than leftist perversions.

Coolidge deported american citizens based on their race. Even the leftist FDR interned American citizens based on their race. If we can successfully shift the overton window back to a point where whites have a survival instinct, we can do it again. If we have to ditch the constitution altogether and start from scratch, that's fine too, though we should be able to keep the Bill of Rights and much of the original intention.

America becomming brown is not white genocide.

ben is the kook

counter semitism is the way

>brainlets still don't understand this chart
This just means red states have lower state taxes.

not seeing what happend with one black president.

HI I'M NEW, WHITE PEOPLE ARE THE WORLDS MINORITY.. those who don't see that, are completely fucking retarded. we aren't talking algos.. we're talking you can't see actual fact. look at india africa and china.. now look at white people.

white people have 2 options. let the jews to continue to remove them from the population, or remove the jews from the population.

His political instincts are fine. He supports his people and does what he think is best for his people. That's fine; it's just that his people are not our people.

I'm Asian and I don't believe in gibs or govt overreach

>Shapiro is loyal only to his own tribe
who are you loyal to?

Again your premise is just stupid, there are more alternatives than national socialism vs civic nationalism.

He's completely correct. Don't try to divide and conquer, all of our countries are being infected with the same diseases, for the same reasons.

The people who this country was explicitly founded for: free white Europeans.

Uncuck yourself. Jews do not have your best interests in mind.

shapiro is a jew and backs it 100 percent.
if your white.. you should back being white 100 percent.

if israel can have so much control over our policy and demand a closed border state for only jews, why can't we demand a white only state?

I'm in full support for the wall and solving the anchor babie loophole.
Those babies should not be granted citizenship, that was not the intentions of the law. It was implied only legal citizens babies should be granted citizenship as a birth right.

shut up commie. You can't be free trade and support the neocon foreign policy. Ben Shapiro is a globalist jew.

Israel firsters dont care, they have a nationalist ethnostate after all. America is a buffet to them, taxpayer blood is on the menu.

>free white Europeans
what do we do about the white people who despise other white people? how can you be loyal to them when they would stab you in the back as soon as you turn around?

>If we have to ditch the constitution altogether and start from scratch, that's fine too
You are not American.

Well, jew is a religion, and white is a race, for starters.

Also, there's already a state for only gentiles, its called the vatican.

All you can do is complain and insult. You cannot actually make any supportive argument for what is the best or why. I'm done replying to such a childish baby.

It's called day of the rope ya dumb muhfucka, have you even lurked here or is this day zero?

The first step will be demoralizing diversity. Let the browns not feel welcome and give them the choice to leave. Of course that may not work, Google the conversos of spain. Former Islamic holdovers who were forced.to convert in order to stay but of course did not truly convert. Then the Spaniards initiated operation day of the muhfuckin rope.

I don't hate my fellow people over differences of opinion. Even the most rabid shitlib SJW can be shown the light, exactly as Communist party members in Germany joined the National Socialist Workers Party of their own volition. They were shown a better way to live, they were shown the evils of the ideology they had been led to accept.

Being for my fellow white people does not mean I am only sympathetic towards those who like my ideas. It means I put my ego aside for the good of my entire race, because we are facing a demographic death.

I'll respond over the course of a few posts. Here is the first one: after independence was won in 1789, the first terms for citizenship/naturalization were made in 1790. Only white people could become citizens:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization_Act_of_1790

Dumbass. If California lowered their taxes and stopped handing out gibs to Trump supporters then the red states would all go bankrupt.

America becoming brown is exactly how white genocide looks.

According with your definition of American, you have to be an idiot to be American.

>When reddit and shareblue meet here and they end up fighting eachother instead of us

>Well, jew is a religion,
Jews are a distinct ethnic group with a genetically distinct lineage. It is not a religion. Goyim cannot convert to Judaism and be considered peer to the Orthodox. If your mother is not ethnically Jewish you are not considered a Jew.

Because they are controlled opposition.
And they lie they don't care about the truth.

I'm brown and I don't want welfare. I just want a chance to make a decent living.

Number 2- here is where Coolidge ethnically cleansed Mexicans, many of them American citizens, from the country:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Repatriation

Say that your premise is stupid is not an insult but a definition of what it is.

the only way to stop white genocide is getting rid of video games

Yeah, Trump supporters are the ones draining California.

Considering that people who formally convert to Judaism are allowed to move to Israel, I'd say that's not accurate.

Exactly right about power blinding us to reason. And now it must change. Survivability is decreasing and the retards have to be removed from the ballot. Or we could cast the dye and cross the Rubicon. The republic may have run it's course

Appreciate it lad.

Why is this post happening again!!!????

Civic patriotism exists because there are a good few people of color and they have fought and served with patriotic whites who, because of this, don't embrace an all out hate of all minorities. Something something the forest for the trees.

>You're not American

My relatives fought in the Revolutionary War and the Civil War. They were here for hundreds of years before the lefrist radical Whigs rebelled against king, country, and tradition based in the ideal that everyone was equal. My Dutch ancestors were here long before the English even came.

I am American on a far deeper level than words on paper. A nation is a people- the people come first, the governing structures they create for themselves are meeely a system to benefit their people. When this structures become an enemy of the every people that created them, when they are actively engaged in attacking, marginalizing, and replacing those people, only a masochist would deny that they need to be revised.

Why would you even attempt to discuss this topic when you're so blatantly ignorant? The Halakha states that a Jew is someone who has a Jewish mother. This is how they maintain lineage. This isn't some secret, Orthodox Rabbis love talking about it.
If you convert to Judaism, if you fight for the IDF, live in Israel your whole life, you won't even be buried in the same cemetery because Orthodox Jews consider your goyim blood to be tainting the soil. There is a separate plot for IDF graves who aren't ethnic Jews.