So why can't we just bomb the shit out of them?

So why can't we just bomb the shit out of them?

Do we have to wait for them to strike first?

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They have a shit-ton of conventional arms currently aimed and ready to level Seoul. We really don't want to trigger the death of 10 million people in one of our allied countries

Just bomb Guam and pretend it was the Norks so you can strike back at them.
No one will ever find out I promise

Just nuke L.A. And pretend it was North Korea

>why can't we just bomb the shit out of them?
Because we are not alone in this world and that would piss off a lot of people around the world including our allies. This is why false flags exist, justification for war. So what is going to happen is, North Korea will strike because we will force their hand jjts like we did with Japan. When they strike, (((we))) will allow a US city to get hit with a nuke so that we can (((justify))) all our war with NK who BTW does not have a jew bank. Which city they allow to get hit? Beats me.. Sweet dreams.

well I don't know much about this sort of a thing

Dont need to, CIA can just do their usual false flag operation.

Because China does not want 10 million gook refugees on their border

Why allow several million to die for such a small piece of clay? The government justified the iraq invasion by only letting 2000 die.

we can't protect them from that? We can't just blow their shit up with an airstrike rendering it useless? Wouldn't they rather use their arms to defend themselves than attack south korea?

>half of north korea will be on the virge of complete starvation and they will offer to postpone the attack if they receive righteous amounts of grain. Which they will then sell to Chinese black market dealers and funnel the money into buying smg's from Russian arms dealers.

Nice.

so why can't we launch a massive first strike against their artillery emplacements

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>So why can't we just bomb the shit out of them?
Because you are a weak country.

Other countries in the past would have striked pre-emptively given these circumstances. You have been vilifying them for decades.

We know exactly where their artillery is. It could be eliminated in a heartbeat, but we don't do it because we're cucks.

because none of its real. guam decided it didnt like the united states any more not that long ago

the media can chimp out all they want. nothing is happening .

North Korea isn't going to do shit as usual

>you are a weak country
>says someone from germany

Aren't you a little too busy getting cucked by refugees?

How could anyone tell their leader that this is a good idea? The second they strike Guam, NK will be doomed.

There is much more at play, South Korea sure as fuck doesn't want a war and neither does China

Going in and Desert Storming North Korea could have extremely negative consequences for the world economy and the region, especially if a few nukes go off

Could we annihilate the North Korean military and infrastructure? Most definitely, but do we want to? Not yet

You didn't understand the post, did you?

Yes, you are a weak country. A strong country would strike pre-emptively. Germany is a weak country too, but it wasn't in the past.

Understand now?

I'm uncomfortable with the amount of hijabis in this pic.

ever wondered why this guy might be using the rhetoric that he is?
Maybe he wants the US to stop conducting joint war games on the Nkorean boarder
Maybe he sees this as an act of aggression and is responding in call..
Maybe your media is trying to convince you into yet another fucking war..
Maybe there have been peace offering that the US has rejected for almost 10 years now..

it's underground though

This is all media bullshit,it sounds exactly like the Iraq war propaganda...the fay gook would have to be a caligula tier leader to mess with the amerifats,besides the US will only enter best korea if China allows it

'Allied countries'

They are your allies because there is a chance for them to get the resources of north korea and you would get a slice of the cake. On the other hand an united south korea would oppose china and the current ties of north korea/russia/syria would vanish.

You are fucking warlords and they are flooding your country with degeneration, migrants, left propaganda to divide you while your own countrymen are dying in invasions of other cointries for the profit of your elites

This rotten nation is just hopeless and too stupid to ever notice how much they are being played

>Going in and Desert Storming North Korea could have extremely negative consequences for the world economy and the region

Could, would, should, etc. Who knows?

Fact is, strong countries have reacted to threats in the past. But America calls them bad names now, saying the pre-emptive striking were the worst war crimes in history.

>Could we annihilate the North Korean military and infrastructure?
Conventionally you can't do shit. Your military is so weak now, you cannot even win against a few backwards Arabs down in Syria and Iraq... after years and years!

State media said Hwasong-12 rockets would pass over Japan and land in the sea about 30km (17 miles) from Guam, if the plan was approved by Kim Jong-un.

>30km from guam
>if approved

Fuck off.

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>Do we have to wait for them to strike first?

Yes.
This is how politics work. The United States is seen as the more *mature* country (for lack of a better word). They're not supposed to attack small, insignificant countries like North Korea without a direct attack happening to them first, no matter how much cock waving the Kims do.
The entire neocon spectrum across the globe is probably waiting for NK to make a move so this situation can finally be over with. NK is honestly such an isolated place (just in comparison to gorilla groups like ISIS, al-Qaeda, al-Shabaab, etc.) that were they dealt with swiftly and the Allies had a successful assassination on Kim Jong-un/a complete dismantling of the top echelons of NK government, whilst SK slowly took over political control of NK that the North Korea issue would become non-existent for any future generation.
Also, NK is too much of a political piece to make a swift move on either. It's always nice to keep people on their toes. Never be too comfortable.

you think south korea is flooding us with degeneracy? I would LOVE south korean pornstars. trust me, they are not the problem.

The middle east is about destabilisation, not winning a war and they did a great job in iraq, libya, yemen, ...
These countries don't matter - it is about limiting the resources for china/india

Read it again. It's the elites.

It's not just clay they gain with such a shock event.

Your elites are flooding your country with degeneracy

When did you nips all of a sudden Become nationalists again? Whatever you say cuck.

When they realized that their population decline is actually serious and there are literally 100k+ White Men itching to breed with their women. I am one of them.

We have always been nationalistic and your post shows a lack of general knowledge, mustafa.
America is supporting us in many ways, therefore we have to tolerate some of their enforced 'suggestions', but it is marginal and could be changed within weeks. We did not forget about the war nor are we indoctrinated

Why don't be hydrogen bomb or flat out Nuke first. Honestly if they shoot a missile over Japan and land it off waters near Guam I'd consider that an act of war. Every missile test should be viewed as an act of war. Just Nuke em. How could they attack back if we Nuke all the cities and military installations.

1. Their artillery is concealed inside caves deep within mountain ridges, protecting them from preemptive attack.

2. It only takes 45 seconds for artillery shells to hit Seoul, while it takes far longer for the U.S. bombers to reach the artillery launch site.

3. The estimate time required to completely disable NK artillery is several weeks. By that time, Seoul will be no more.

>their population decline is serious

Their population is fine. They're on a tiny island and they have half the population of the US. Perpetual population growth is impossible and undesirable.

Fuck them and fuck you. We shoulda nuked them 50 years ago and the chineese faggot. We shoulda nuked Russia too at the end of ww2. Your lucky we killed our own general faggot.

Yaaaaaaaaaa but we're about to metal gear solid Afghanistan. So that's like your opinion faggot.

Calm down, tough guy. Our nukes weren't even enough to get Japan to surrender, what makes you think we could have nuked the Soviets into submission?

The 'migration' is basically an easier way for foreigners to get a visa, but it is hard to get a permanent visa and they couldn't afford to stay here without plenty of money or a job.
We are implementing this stuff to our advantage - this is the huge difference

>we don't want to kill 10 million asians

just nuke Londonstan and pretend it was muslims

Cause you cant alpha strike the country with one of the largest armies on the planet, bristling with air defence, dug in like a pack of hamsters and preparing for a total war for 50 years at will.

Every single one of these threads are just USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA shitposting to murifat hawks can feel good about themselves after failing to achieve meaningful strategic victory in Iraq and Afganistan, so they take out their frustrations on a country that very intentionally acts as a hate sink but has the the deterrent.

Fucking tired of all these north korea threads. They wont go to war. There will be no happening. Nukes are the ultimate anti-happening. Both sides will just shit to appease their own hawks and nothing ever will happen.

Take it easy bro. We didn't kill Patton a (((car wreck))) did.
I am curious on how the USSR infrastructure was post-Germany's surrender. I mean surely Eastern Europe all the way to Moscow must had been wiped away. A nuke on the red square would have crippled the country.

You think that Japan will ever allow dual citizenship?

Isn't preparation of this plan supposed to be a top secret infa? Why the fuck is some tabloid allowed to warn the enemy about an upcoming strike?

USSR was in ruins, their armies exhausted after 4 years of brutal war, and they were almost out of manpower by the end. Had they gone to war with the US immediately after, they would have lost.

It only takes 10 shells to decimate the city. Nothing will survive a barrage of several hundred shells.

We dropped two nukes on Japan and they didn't even flinch. Hell, neither nuke was even in the top five of our most devastating bombing raids of the past 6 months.

We have more advanced nukes now, but even they aren't enough to cripple a country without deploying hundreds of strategically placed bombs.

Yeah, this is why Japan surrendered immediately after the Soviet declared war, because the Soviets were on their last legs....

>being this retarded
Japan was already defeated. Their airforce and navy were in ruins, their merchant fleets were destroyed thus destroying their economy. Their ground forces would have offered fanatical resistance in the burned out ruins of their cities, but they would have been wiped away easily.
IIRC the Emperor wanted to surrender earlier but was prevented from doing so by the army.

Japan surrendered because we bombed the shit out of them. It wasn't just two atom bombs. It was weeks and weeks and months of hundreds of thousands of bombs hitting all of their major cities. We burned that country to the ground and they gave up because of it.

The soviets outnumbered the allies 10 to 1 in the european theatre(the one that matters) and had more troops in manchuria than americans in the entire pacific theatre.
Finally someone who knows about the Tokyo fire raid.

They surrendered less than two weeks after the atomic bombs were dropped.

Because they were preparing for that for almost 70 years. They have numerous bunkers in granite mountains. Basically whole NK is one giant military base.
Dude, it took 18 countries to rekt Iraq. I dont see how the fuck you will btfo NK and at the same time save SK, keeping China and Russia unprovoked.

Tbh either Kim is literally retarded or this is media bullshit. Why would tbey wanna Fuck with us???? Smh

Just goes to show how much compassion white people have. If the situation was reversed and SK was the most powerful country in the world and NK was holding the US hostage with artillery, SK would blast them to hell as millions of Americans died.

Typical burger spouting nonsense on a subject he knows very little about.

You're off by a factor of 4 but you're not wrong

Also this.
When shtf NK will be in Seoul in like 2-3 hours.

>do we have to wait for them to strike first
Yes. According to international moral law.

>will we
No.

>burgers still believe we wuz victors n sheeit

Our impact on the European Front was irrelevant in the scheme of things. Japan didn't even flinch after our two nukes hit them. They were used to bombing raids.

We have the records that show the Supreme Council didn't even discuss Hiroshima until two days after the attack, despite becoming aware of the severity immediately afterwards.

They knew they were beaten, but they were suing for peace. Their plan was to use the Soviets to diplomatically pressure America into accepting a treaty that was less than total surrender. Barring that, they would make the US invasion so bloody that America would be willing to talk terms rather than continue the siege.

Both plans went out the window when the Soviets declared war on Japan and invaded Manchuria. Japan had a peace agreement with the Soviets that was supposed to last until 1946, but the Soviets broke it early.

Do you remember the part were we btfo your entire country.
Yeah and jfk was shot by oswald. Srsly get off the meth. And screw some whites.

>This rotten nation is just hopeless and too stupid to ever notice how much they are being played
Said the Chinese

They were hoping in negotiating a separate peace with the soviets, or even a soviet intervention on their behalf but when Stalin declared war they knew its over and surrendered to avoid becoming a soviet satellite.

North Koreas is all Huffs and Puffs.
It's a shame, because I really wanted to see Kim hang.

>We did not forget about the war
You seem to have forgotten how it ended. Do we have to send Perry down there again?

>this post
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>North Korea not relevant for decades
>Suddenly decide to start threatning them
>They make threats back
>"The only logical explanation is that we need to bomb them because they are evil"

Umm, so how many of you are going to sign up for the fighting then faggots?

I agree, although they had a peace deal with the Soviet that wasn't supposed to expire until 1946. The Soviets broke it early and fucked Japan. They're still technically at war with each other.

Sadly, burger education of WW2 consists of:
>Hitler killed alot of jews because he tricked Germans into making them scapegoats for the depression
>America came in and liberated Europe, the Soviets helped some too, though we had to give them all their equipment
>We nuked Japan and they surrendered

so why're we still defending them?

This is true but I can still dream of Nuclear fire washing away this world and everything in it, myself included.

But he's right. Nork artillery would flatten Seoul. We could TRY a pre-emptive surgical strikes but it would basically require us to instantly knock out their communications and simultaneously knock out all of their artillery, oh and we would have to do it from complete secrecy. And unfortunately, Aircraft carriers are kind of noticeable.

>Barring that, they would make the US invasion so bloody that America would be willing to talk terms rather than continue the siege.

That was their intention but i'm not sure you're not underestimating how platinum mad the US was about Pearl Harbour. I think they would have slaughtered their way up and down every inch of that god forsaken island taking all the casualties in the world if they had to - or just fucking flatten all of it with repeated atomic strikes reducing Japan to an irradiated no-go zone

>It takes 10 shells to decimate a city
Only if the shells are nuclear.

>They're not supposed to attack small, insignificant countries
Since when?

But seriously, a preemptive strike may be the "mature" thing to do. Politics is a means of war. Always has been, even if your country chooses to believe it only means diplomacy.

Pearl Harbor was an excellent propaganda tool, but I don't think Americans had much taste for suffering 2-3 million casualties for a war that was secondary to the already ended European Theatre.

Ultimately, we really didn't have much of a reason to be mad about Pearl Harbor. We were blockading their oil shipments and funding the Chinese army. FDR needed an excuse to jump into WW2 and Pearl Harbor was a convenient excuse. There's alot of talk about whether FDR deliberately ignored warning signals about the attack. I haven't looked into those allegations, but it wouldn't be inconsistent with the general trend at the time.

We killed tens of thousands of Iraqis during the war.
This. This is just them desperately begging for more rice and oil.

What really worries me is a internal collapse. The biggest WMD they have is the humanitarian crisis that happens after a regime change. 25M peasants with no God emperor begging for rice and cabbage. Fucking nobody wants to take responsibility for that.

>Nork artillery would flatten Seoul.

Not to mention nuclear artillery is a thing too. Plus the norks could always go for a samson option and nuke Beijing and Tokyo and let the ripple effect crash the world market.

>We could TRY a pre-emptive surgical strikes but it would basically require us to instantly knock out their communications and simultaneously knock out all of their artillery

There is just too much, and they are too prepared for a surgical strike. Thats the entire point, they want to fight a WW2-style mass clusterfuck with millions of men and tens of thousands of vehicles and planes instead of a neat, quick, clean surgical war. They are also very willing to deploy nuclear, biological and chemical weapons and fanatically fight till the end. No american president is going to draft and ship over the required 2-3 million american soldiers to put down such a threat when they arent going to do anything except talking shit.


>That was their intention but i'm not sure you're not underestimating how platinum mad the US was about Pearl Harbour. I think they would have slaughtered their way up and down every inch of that god forsaken island taking all the casualties in the world if they had to - or just fucking flatten all of it with repeated atomic strikes reducing Japan to an irradiated no-go zone

Based on the dogged resistence on Okinawa and Iwo Jima, invading the mainland would have been a nightmare. Even the most optimistic predictions calculated the war would last atleast till 1948 and take millions of americans losses.

The Soviets made a deal with the allies to invade Japan 3(?) months after Germany's defeat. If anything, the nukes were dropped to force Japan to surrender before the Soviet invasion due to the Cold War and the fact that Soviets weren't going to give up captured Japanese land. The idea that the American invasion would come at a high cost of American lives is a meme made up by politicians to justify using the nukes. Japan wouldn't have had the power for that kind of resistance; their whole navy was destroyed, their airforce was falling apart, over a million troops were stranded abroad, and they were going to be invaded by two superpowers simultaneously. Not much resistance you can put up under those circumstances.

They have been saying shit like this for decades, its just another lure to force other countries to give them aid.

If you attack you seem like the bad guy internationally, and they can go running to daddy china and mother russia for help and before you know it we have WW3.

Keep your heads cool america, if they ever attack guam, its just guam, and then you can peacefully level that entire shithole without anybody caring or even helping you.

Jesus these threads are perfect exampled of how smart people think they are and how little they actually know.

The nukes didn't have their intended effect. Japanese leaders didn't flinch after either bomb. Hell, discussions on Hiroshima were put off until the 9th because they were too busy talking about the Soviet invasion.

The idea of a bloody invasion was a very real possibility until the Soviets came in. The Japanese were hoping they could keep control of some of their conquered territory after the war, but once they realized the Soviets were coming in from the north, they realized they were fucked.

It's interesting to see the way the Emperor blamed the defeat on the nukes as a way to maintain legitimacy among his people. By publicly blaming the nukes for his defeat instead of conventional warfare, he was able to paint the loss as something he couldn't have foreseen.

I wonder if NK will televise the strategy first.

No he isn't right because the norks longest range artillery can only hit the northern suburbs of Seoul which are the least densely populated. Would there be casualties? Yes not fucking 10 million, a few thousand at most. Would Seoul be flattened? No but the northern burbs would have damage.

You deserve to be nuked for all your crimes, you are the servant of Israel and the enemy of the white man.

I brought this up in the last thread but why can't we sanction the shit out of China until they agree to not intervene?

>lol germany is weak!
You do know that Germany pretty much controls the EU based on the fact that everybody owes them money right?

There's more than one way to gain power
>Lol just bomb them
>have one 9-11
>dwell on it for decades nevar 4get muh terrorists
>lol lets just bomb other people based on their politician's posturing

Can't wait till the first nukes fall on you stupid cunts.

It will never ever happen there is 0 reason for NK to do it you guys are retarded

>We really don't want to trigger the death
'We don't want to make that poor dindu shoot that girl he's holding hostage do we?'. Cunts like you blame the cop for shooting the rapist.

Your shitposting skills are inferior to others I have stumbled upon. Stop posting and realise that all war is just a hoax and nothing of that kind ever existed only stupid people with weapons bashing other stupid people.

Because theres no money to be made in striking and ending it

The money comes from the unending occupation of multiple defense contractors. Until a plan is put in place for an occupation that China and russia accept, there will not be a war

Hit the areas with the biggest blue bars and the problem is solved.

>so let's trigger the death of a few hundred thousand Americans instead