If you unironically think the ancient Greeks and Italians were the same race as the Shitskins that inhabit the land today you shoulden't be here.
Stop lumping these shitskins in with true whites, the only current meds that can pass as white now are northern Italians.
>inb4 posted cherry picked example of nordic looking greek
That only proves my point that you don't see the average med as white. Rare examples of meds with left over white blood dosen't represent the majority of them.
>inb4 shill divide and conquer
You're lumping non whites in with whites based on the assumption everybody whos been in Europe for the last few centries is white. You're bassically falling for the biggest shill of all.
south italians meh...many of them are polluted by north african and middle eastern genes
John Young
well 2bh even modern italy has more contributions to the world than most of the nordic countries combined
the reinessance was only 300 years ago, you gonna tell me Michelangelo wasn't a white man?
italy is in the top 4 even in the modern era, and before that was undisputed top civilization of human history
Camden Barnes
pic related btw
scandinavians and slavs are inferior
Noah Cook
Celts.
They were all Celts.
Celtic countries are the only places where anybody bothers to read the Epics just because it ties into celtic mythology very closely (and old azarbaijani)
Nolan Cooper
This x100.
Hunter White
The Reinessance greats were all from Northern Italy which was inhabited by Germanics and Gauls who were given full Roman citizenship
All that proved was Italy was overshined by Germany, France and England.
Luke Nelson
Italy is much the same genetically as it has been since pre Rome. Sicilicy is largely a mix of Punic and Greek genetics from the first major settlers. Eastern Italy has more Greek genetics from early settlers. The north part of Italy is more light these days because of a horse of Celtic and Germanic migrations when the Roman Empire fell. The lombards occupied the north for ages and they were Germanic.
If you actually cared to read Roman material from the Republican era you will find writings about the first encounters the Romans had with the teutones and cimbrians. They found their larger statures, light hair and grey eyes frightening. They literally were not used to seeing people like this because Italians had dark complexions and were smaller than northern Europeans. A lot of their pagan Gods had blonde hair, but during early of imperial Rome blonde hair became associated with prostitution because of all the Garlic, Celtic and Germanic qt's imported as sex slaves. In later imperial Rome it became fashionable to have blonde hair and a lot of nobility were wearing blonde wigs.
Here's a question for the stormfags, if every advanced ancient civilization was Nordic than why was the actual Nordic and Germanic parts of the world so backwards and barbaric?
Gabriel Brown
does this man look northern italian to you?
that data only shows from 1400-1950. before that literally every european achievement came from italy
the reality is that even if what you were saying is true and italians arent white, italy has more achievements than all of the "whitest countries" in every era including modern
Gabriel Hughes
not one nord
Levi Perez
This is true. Most of Europe didn't become relevant at all until 400 years ago. The previous several thousand years were spent chimping out in the forests having sex with their siblings while every other Caucasoid between Italy and Afghanistan was drinking wine with their dinners.
Landon Carter
You have to look at per capital. Scandinavian counties have always had small populations. And the difference in population size was even larger before the world wars.
Also the only relevant achievements are scientific achievements.
Juan Davis
again not one nord
Camden Sullivan
*per capita
Carter Campbell
Y-You're right! we truly was kangz! feels good menn :DD
Henry Young
user, there is no phenotypical difference between northern Italians and French or Swiss people. They can pass as white because they are.
Luis Torres
Nordics aren't genetically predisposed to excel in the arts or sciences. They enjoy the pleasures of cuckoldry and trangenderism
Liam Gutierrez
You don't seem to understand that you have to look at per capita achievements.
>Scandinavian counties have always had small populations. And the difference in population size was even larger before the world wars. Not that many Scandis died in the world wars.
Anthony Miller
wrong
switzerland has a smaller population than sweden and more contributions than all of scandinavia combined
netherlands has only 17 mil and triple the achievments of all of scandianvia combined
the fact is nordic countries have very few achievments both in the modern era and in the pre history era
Xavier Diaz
Simply not true. I have shown evidence that it's not true and yet you don't show any evidence.
Evan Wright
my evidence is right here
the fact is that history doesnt work in per capitas. you either built shit or you didnt
for this excercise we can use per capitas if you want, but even in that respect nordic countries are completely inferior
the reality is nords and slavs were living out of wood shacks and stealing grain only five hundred years ago while the celtic and meditaranean people built europe and built the world
Matthew Scott
They all display the typical "italian" face that you can also see nowadays in most part of italy.
They aren't from german descent, but neither are southern italians polluted with north african and turkish dna.
Most likely, the italian population developed of its own in the territory from etruscans and latin populations in ancient age, and then has been enriched with foreign genes both from north eurpe and south mediterranean area such as north africa and middle east.
Etruscan-like italians are definetly white, anyway.
Hudson Davis
Julius Caesar had brown eyes. Explain.
Hunter Wright
BTW if you look more closely you will see that Sweden had a lot of achievements in science during 1800-1950 but few in art, music and literature (which is all very subjective). According to this author that's most likely a brit.
The only thing that matters is science and Sweden specifically has had a lot of scientific achievements and it's Swedes that did those not jews btw.
Jack Bennett
forgot pic
Gabriel Cook
They also display one of the ghighest IQ, longest life-span, and great achievements in both arts and science.
Zachary Gray
>If you unironically think the ancient Greeks and Italians were the same race as the Shitskins that inhabit the land today Genes (pic rel.) > Your opinion
Ironically modern Greeks are "more white" than the Mycenaean Greeks. I suppose that the cause of this is Hellenization of Paeonian and IllyroThracian population and remnants of Scythian slave imports and other Iranic population.
Colton Phillips
No IQ is very similar between different countries. Although it was changed a bit as the population demo changes and with the educational system.
Nathan Russell
yeah theres definitely been a blur on whats considered Mediterranean, the shit skins like pic related definitely arent med
but meds as a people exist and they have been one of the most influential groups in european history
Jayden Gonzalez
Ancients loved to idealize themselves as gods. For example, the obsession of the French aristocracy with whiteness. The Greek aristocracy (which modeled classical civilization) was probably Central European.
Cooper Perez
so this is what nordic superiority looks like
Nathan Robinson
You didn't answer my post. You should only look at the scientific achievements and if you do that you will see that Scandis have preformed very well especially considering the much smaller population size.
Greeks have a much lower IQ however. Probably because of rape from Turks etc.
Liam Morris
>Scandis have preformed very well >one single dot in all of human history
lol what about all of these dots? how can little nordic boys compete
Matthew Collins
Agree.
Of course you can see people display shitskin features like your pic related in Italy, but almost only in the south and you can tell from miles that they have been polluted with arabic dna centuries ago.
However, real italian features actually exist, and you can tell they are white, even though they aren't 1,90m blonde with blue eyes like many people identifies "whiteness" with.
Green eyes are pretty common in Italy too, especially in the center and northern Italy.
Samuel Long
Greece is the most influential civ. that ever existed. Why is not in that graph.
Nicholas Nguyen
>Ancients loved to idealize themselves as gods. True
Joseph Gonzalez
>ITT nordicucks argue that they're better than everybody else
Celts and Meds created this world while nords lived in fucking mudhuts like niggers. >B-BUT MUH BLONDE HAIR nobody gives a shit about feminine hair, a lassie will always prefer a guy with darker hair over a nordcuck unless she's asian.
Liam Cook
even in the roman days there was clear physical differences between the romans and the germanics
the romans were short where as the germanic were considered giants
mona lisa is a good example of what a true med looks like
Mason Green
>bosnia and albania are muslim countries >lowest iq in europe >mfw
Cooper Williams
You have to lie in order to make your point. Look at. 1800-1950
Britain had 27,368,800 in 1851 and Sweden had 3,482,500 in 1850. Still no hate. Brits and Scandis share a lot of heritage and Brits have done well for themselves as has Scandis.
Why are you so butthurt? Show flag btw.
Jack Allen
fuck nord cucks and fuck slavs
Adrian Murphy
Well the hair thing is not true. What is true that women have an in group bias and most women have darker hair. Still if that makes you feel better paki. A lot of Brits have blond hair btw.
Xavier Davis
consider the population size of switzerland
they have only 9 million people and more dots than all of Scandinavia combined
face it nord cuck even when taking into consideration per capita you still got nothing
Bentley Miller
Now we convert the entire multiverse into the current form, just to piss you off
Camden Cruz
Show flag. I bet your that Turk.
Eli Hall
Italian IQ is avereged down by southern genetic pollution.
If you take northern and center italy, the IQ is around 100
Christian Ross
>reddit spacing
Asher Smith
I guess they had access to a better network, i.e. the German universities and some of them were probably Ash Jews. Einstein etc. ... Sweden has almost no Jew scientists - it's all Swedes.
Finns are smart but they had no "academic network" and were mostly farmers (also true for many Swedes and Norwegians for a long time) and so they have very few historical achievements until fairly recently.
Kevin Foster
Clear things up I'm scottish not british, the english fucks can go die for all I care.
And yes the hair thing is true, literally no white woman in the west wants blonde hair on a guy unless he's a model, brown/black hair will triumph 9/10 with white women, sorry to disappoint you :^)
Benjamin Ortiz
"Central European"? What does that even mean? They were Scythians or Celts? There was no time before us that Europe wasn't composed of niggers. We literally were the first, so there's no realistic way in which Greek social structure would be dominated by a foreign element. There was nothing racial in Greek aristocracy. There was barely even a concept of dynasty. Anyone who knows half a thing about ancient Greek society will tell you that.
What can be said to be true is that the Proto-Greek speakers were an Indo-European stock, while the pre-Greek population of Greece, which made up (and still does) the majority of genetic ancestry of the peninsula, weren't. So, it's fair to assume that the Middle Eastern aspect of Greek genetics is pre-Greek in origin.
However, the Proto-Greeks speakers weren't Greeks, and there's nothing special about them as a population group compared to any late PIE group. If anything, it's the pre-Greeks that were the Greeks before Greekness was born. But really, it was the mix of the two that gave birth to the Greek nation.
Cooper Gomez
theres different iq data that shows italians having the highest iq in europe
infact most of the data that shows scandinavia with higher iq is obscure
pic related is first result on google
Parker Smith
Yes if it's just Nord Italians it would probably be a couple of points higher.
Charles Carter
Yeah not true.
Anthony Gutierrez
Southern Italians are kebab. Extinguish them.
Elijah Gomez
>tfw your ancestors never accomplished anything worthwhile in the entirety of human history so you need to steal other peoples' accomplishment in order to feel better about yourself this is the struggle both niggers and nordcucks face every day
Cooper Watson
Italy as a whole is largely what is was two millenia ago. Invaders left next to nothing. Invaders rarely replace native populations.
Liam Butler
Come here to scotland then dick and tell me that again
Adam Hughes
>Nords >Australian/British criminal
Zachary Bailey
yet these worthless white niggers live in a much safer, richer and cleaner countries than you medniggers will ever be
Blake White
nords and slavs are heavily mixed with asians so they lack creativity
thats why they have the least scientific and artistic contributions out of every sect of the white race
celts and meds rule nord and slavs go to the chambers
Easton Gray
Lol. What are you talking about? It's true that women have in group bias and most women have brown hair.
Well that's objectify not true if you actually care about facts.
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Yes and in the other data it was much lower. Probably somewhere in the middle.
All the data shows that there's virtually no difference between Western Europeans and most Slavs also have a similar IQ.
Samuel Gutierrez
I want all you nordicucks to take a look at scottish inventors and celebrities, remember that scotland is a country where the majority of its population has fair hair. You will notice that barely anybody on those lists has blonde hair, SAD!
Liam James
>Fingolia >Trying to shit talk to anyone
Come on now.
Aiden Adams
This is all BS. I have shown proof and you show no proof and you hide behind that flag.
Show flag or are you that Turk poster and want to d & c?
Nicholas Torres
this we was literally kings and ancient romans
Leo Rodriguez
>nords and slavs are heavily mixed with asians so they lack creativity medcucks btfo
Eli Sullivan
Dunno man, look at the Med, consider there's always been trade there and that one of the historical figures creditied with the foundation of Rome was Aenas, a Trojan/Turk.
Nords aren't mixed with asians...that's a meme-tier kike myth. Sad if you actually believe that
Nicholas Robinson
It's true that they are niggers though, don't really know why they're so obsessed with us though. Guess it's like all other subhumans.
Wyatt Collins
reality
Easton Harris
Well show us then and answer this
Instead of shitposting.
>blonde It's called blond for men btw. Sad that you don't know your own language.
You seem very insecure.
Colton Miller
>WE WUZ GREEKS N SHIT HAHAHA
Josiah Wilson
Then you should be proud of your current standing instead of trying to change history Otherwise you are on the same level as yakub and medievalpoc
Justin Smith
>accomplishments in 1400-1950 get with the times gramps, we are not living in the 15th century anymore
Jeremiah Wood
Give him 10 minutes and he'll post the periodic table to prove you wrong
Your countries' state is just a result of being irrelevant
Who would want to conquer Finland, for example? What would that achieve? A seaway to polar bears? Reindeer cooking recipes? Enlightenment through contact with the wise culture of European eskimos?
Jeremiah Nelson
He's just defending against your slander, it was the Australian Celtnigger that claimed your history.
Luke Carter
wrong
interpret this data however you want, but please make sure you take note of the significant genetic differences of nords and slavs compared with other halo groups
there is definitely something in the blood that makes nords and slavs inferior
Jason Myers
Again you have to lie in order to win the argument. Sad!
At this point your just a troll. You don't even attempt to answer the post Mikko made.
Josiah Jenkins
"There is a noticeable genetic difference between theNorthern ItaliansandSouthern Italians, with the former being close to theFrenchpopulation, while the latter overlap with bothBalkanand othersouthern Europeanpopulations.[2][6][7][8]Yet, the genetic distance between Northern and Southern Italians, although pretty large from a single European 'nationality' point of view, is only roughly equal to the one between Northern Germans and Southern Germans.The genetic gap between Northern and Southern Italians is filled by an intermediate Central Italian cluster, creating a continuous cline of variation down the peninsula (with Sardinians as outliers) that mirrors geography.[10]
Molecular anthropology found no evidence of significant Northern geneflow into the Italian peninsula over the last 1500 years. On the other hand, the bulk of Italian ethnogenesis occurred prior to Germanic or non European invasions. Geneticists agree that no migrations other than the Greek and Balkan settlement in Southern Italy and Sicily had any substantial biological impact on Italians"
Jose Myers
i am not trying to do that and i don't agree with the OP. i believe that ancient Greeks had dark features, just like they have now. i just disagree with these idiots that still live in the past and compare their countries from those periods to ours from the same period, because that's all they have.
Austin Ward
You don't know what you're talking about. You're insecure and so you make silly statements that isn't backed by evidence.
Chase Sanchez
>antipodian angloshit's opinion on anything short of venomous animals
Colton Bailey
It aussie OP that did that. Just a shitpost.
Show flag turk.
James Sullivan
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Aiden Murphy
Scottish celebrities I can name off the top of my head: >Sean Connery; brown hair and brown eyes >Gerard Butler; brown hair and blue eyes >Ewan McGregor: brown hair and blue eyes those are the top celebs in scotland, no blondies there mate.
as for inventors go, pic related. >inb4 aging brown hair counts as fair gasping at straws eh?
Gabriel Peterson
how is it lieing
the reality is that single little dot is all of Scandinavian scientific achievment through out history
even southern slavs have more achievments, thats insulting
even when you take the it on a per capita basis, its still embarassing
nordics are a joke of a race
Aiden Peterson
>Who would want to conquer Finland, for example? we don't have any natural resources in finland (other than trees) and our soil is so shit that even nowdays it's hard to grow anything, which is partly the reason for our irrelevance in the past. but what has that do with anything i said? our quality of life is so good, that we can just sit back and relax, while the rest of the world burns
Caleb Harris
Perhaps you should go back to sucking off Odin's semen like the good little snownigger that you are, trying to claim med inventions is just fucking sad.
Michael Thomas
Majority of Nords have brown hair
Andrew Ortiz
and forgot to add that nobody wants to conquer finland. russia is the only minor threat
Luis Smith
Yes, I saw that data too.
Isaac Bailey
This kills the nordniggers who think they are white but in reality they are mudslim rapebabies
>ancient DNA suggests that living Greeks are indeed the descendants of Mycenaeans
How the varg fags from the north caliphate can ever recover?
Levi Baker
It would shatter his muh greek master race worldview
Lincoln Torres
Jesus, Sven stfu the only thing your shitty country ever accomplished was being flagship of the European multi-culti movement. Your "scientists" are all niggers and your (((((white genes))))) have never contributed shit to shit even now as 1/4 of your women will get raped.
Liam Jenkins
>yesterday thread about IQ >today this >same posts, same people, same arguments and links
Not this time Sup Forums. Not this time.
Kayden Cooper
>show flag
ok btw im not even med, my dad was born in germany and mum was born in england
im just a race realists and nordics are the losers of history and their dna is inferior to the celtic master race