If you unironically think the ancient Greeks and Italians were the same race as the Shitskins that inhabit the land...

If you unironically think the ancient Greeks and Italians were the same race as the Shitskins that inhabit the land today you shoulden't be here.

Stop lumping these shitskins in with true whites, the only current meds that can pass as white now are northern Italians.

>inb4 posted cherry picked example of nordic looking greek

That only proves my point that you don't see the average med as white. Rare examples of meds with left over white blood dosen't represent the majority of them.

>inb4 shill divide and conquer

You're lumping non whites in with whites based on the assumption everybody whos been in Europe for the last few centries is white. You're bassically falling for the biggest shill of all.

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can confirm

nothern italians are 100% white

south italians meh...many of them are polluted by north african and middle eastern genes

well 2bh even modern italy has more contributions to the world than most of the nordic countries combined

the reinessance was only 300 years ago, you gonna tell me Michelangelo wasn't a white man?

italy is in the top 4 even in the modern era, and before that was undisputed top civilization of human history

pic related btw

scandinavians and slavs are inferior

Celts.

They were all Celts.

Celtic countries are the only places where anybody bothers to read the Epics just because it ties into celtic mythology very closely (and old azarbaijani)

This x100.

The Reinessance greats were all from Northern Italy which was inhabited by Germanics and Gauls who were given full Roman citizenship

All that proved was Italy was overshined by Germany, France and England.

Italy is much the same genetically as it has been since pre Rome. Sicilicy is largely a mix of Punic and Greek genetics from the first major settlers. Eastern Italy has more Greek genetics from early settlers. The north part of Italy is more light these days because of a horse of Celtic and Germanic migrations when the Roman Empire fell. The lombards occupied the north for ages and they were Germanic.

If you actually cared to read Roman material from the Republican era you will find writings about the first encounters the Romans had with the teutones and cimbrians. They found their larger statures, light hair and grey eyes frightening. They literally were not used to seeing people like this because Italians had dark complexions and were smaller than northern Europeans. A lot of their pagan Gods had blonde hair, but during early of imperial Rome blonde hair became associated with prostitution because of all the Garlic, Celtic and Germanic qt's imported as sex slaves. In later imperial Rome it became fashionable to have blonde hair and a lot of nobility were wearing blonde wigs.

Here's a question for the stormfags, if every advanced ancient civilization was Nordic than why was the actual Nordic and Germanic parts of the world so backwards and barbaric?

does this man look northern italian to you?

that data only shows from 1400-1950. before that literally every european achievement came from italy

the reality is that even if what you were saying is true and italians arent white, italy has more achievements than all of the "whitest countries" in every era including modern

not one nord

This is true. Most of Europe didn't become relevant at all until 400 years ago. The previous several thousand years were spent chimping out in the forests having sex with their siblings while every other Caucasoid between Italy and Afghanistan was drinking wine with their dinners.

You have to look at per capital. Scandinavian counties have always had small populations. And the difference in population size was even larger before the world wars.

Also the only relevant achievements are scientific achievements.

again not one nord

*per capita

Y-You're right! we truly was kangz! feels good menn :DD

user, there is no phenotypical difference between northern Italians and French or Swiss people. They can pass as white because they are.

Nordics aren't genetically predisposed to excel in the arts or sciences. They enjoy the pleasures of cuckoldry and trangenderism

You don't seem to understand that you have to look at per capita achievements.

>Scandinavian counties have always had small populations. And the difference in population size was even larger before the world wars.
Not that many Scandis died in the world wars.

wrong

switzerland has a smaller population than sweden and more contributions than all of scandinavia combined

netherlands has only 17 mil and triple the achievments of all of scandianvia combined

the fact is nordic countries have very few achievments both in the modern era and in the pre history era

Simply not true. I have shown evidence that it's not true and yet you don't show any evidence.

my evidence is right here

the fact is that history doesnt work in per capitas. you either built shit or you didnt

for this excercise we can use per capitas if you want, but even in that respect nordic countries are completely inferior

the reality is nords and slavs were living out of wood shacks and stealing grain only five hundred years ago while the celtic and meditaranean people built europe and built the world

They all display the typical "italian" face that you can also see nowadays in most part of italy.

They aren't from german descent, but neither are southern italians polluted with north african and turkish dna.

Most likely, the italian population developed of its own in the territory from etruscans and latin populations in ancient age, and then has been enriched with foreign genes both from north eurpe and south mediterranean area such as north africa and middle east.

Etruscan-like italians are definetly white, anyway.

Julius Caesar had brown eyes. Explain.

BTW if you look more closely you will see that Sweden had a lot of achievements in science during 1800-1950 but few in art, music and literature (which is all very subjective). According to this author that's most likely a brit.

The only thing that matters is science and Sweden specifically has had a lot of scientific achievements and it's Swedes that did those not jews btw.

forgot pic

They also display one of the ghighest IQ, longest life-span, and great achievements in both arts and science.

>If you unironically think the ancient Greeks and Italians were the same race as the Shitskins that inhabit the land today
Genes (pic rel.) > Your opinion

Ironically modern Greeks are "more white" than the Mycenaean Greeks. I suppose that the cause of this is Hellenization of Paeonian and IllyroThracian population and remnants of Scythian slave imports and other Iranic population.

No IQ is very similar between different countries. Although it was changed a bit as the population demo changes and with the educational system.

yeah theres definitely been a blur on whats considered Mediterranean, the shit skins like pic related definitely arent med

but meds as a people exist and they have been one of the most influential groups in european history

Ancients loved to idealize themselves as gods. For example, the obsession of the French aristocracy with whiteness. The Greek aristocracy (which modeled classical civilization) was probably Central European.

so this is what nordic superiority looks like

You didn't answer my post. You should only look at the scientific achievements and if you do that you will see that Scandis have preformed very well especially considering the much smaller population size.

Greeks have a much lower IQ however. Probably because of rape from Turks etc.

>Scandis have preformed very well
>one single dot in all of human history

lol what about all of these dots? how can little nordic boys compete

Agree.

Of course you can see people display shitskin features like your pic related in Italy, but almost only in the south and you can tell from miles that they have been polluted with arabic dna centuries ago.

However, real italian features actually exist, and you can tell they are white, even though they aren't 1,90m blonde with blue eyes like many people identifies "whiteness" with.

Green eyes are pretty common in Italy too, especially in the center and northern Italy.

Greece is the most influential civ. that ever existed. Why is not in that graph.

>Ancients loved to idealize themselves as gods.
True

>ITT nordicucks argue that they're better than everybody else

Celts and Meds created this world while nords lived in fucking mudhuts like niggers.
>B-BUT MUH BLONDE HAIR
nobody gives a shit about feminine hair, a lassie will always prefer a guy with darker hair over a nordcuck unless she's asian.

even in the roman days there was clear physical differences between the romans and the germanics

the romans were short where as the germanic were considered giants

mona lisa is a good example of what a true med looks like

>bosnia and albania are muslim countries
>lowest iq in europe
>mfw

You have to lie in order to make your point. Look at. 1800-1950

And consider the population size.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Sweden

Now compare that to say Germany

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Germany

or Britain...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_Kingdom

Britain had 27,368,800 in 1851 and Sweden had 3,482,500 in 1850. Still no hate. Brits and Scandis share a lot of heritage and Brits have done well for themselves as has Scandis.

Why are you so butthurt? Show flag btw.

fuck nord cucks and fuck slavs

Well the hair thing is not true. What is true that women have an in group bias and most women have darker hair. Still if that makes you feel better paki. A lot of Brits have blond hair btw.

consider the population size of switzerland

they have only 9 million people and more dots than all of Scandinavia combined

face it nord cuck even when taking into consideration per capita you still got nothing

Now we convert the entire multiverse into the current form, just to piss you off

Show flag. I bet your that Turk.

Italian IQ is avereged down by southern genetic pollution.

If you take northern and center italy, the IQ is around 100

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I guess they had access to a better network, i.e. the German universities and some of them were probably Ash Jews. Einstein etc. ... Sweden has almost no Jew scientists - it's all Swedes.

Finns are smart but they had no "academic network" and were mostly farmers (also true for many Swedes and Norwegians for a long time) and so they have very few historical achievements until fairly recently.

Clear things up I'm scottish not british, the english fucks can go die for all I care.

And yes the hair thing is true, literally no white woman in the west wants blonde hair on a guy unless he's a model, brown/black hair will triumph 9/10 with white women, sorry to disappoint you :^)

"Central European"? What does that even mean? They were Scythians or Celts? There was no time before us that Europe wasn't composed of niggers. We literally were the first, so there's no realistic way in which Greek social structure would be dominated by a foreign element. There was nothing racial in Greek aristocracy. There was barely even a concept of dynasty. Anyone who knows half a thing about ancient Greek society will tell you that.

What can be said to be true is that the Proto-Greek speakers were an Indo-European stock, while the pre-Greek population of Greece, which made up (and still does) the majority of genetic ancestry of the peninsula, weren't. So, it's fair to assume that the Middle Eastern aspect of Greek genetics is pre-Greek in origin.

However, the Proto-Greeks speakers weren't Greeks, and there's nothing special about them as a population group compared to any late PIE group. If anything, it's the pre-Greeks that were the Greeks before Greekness was born. But really, it was the mix of the two that gave birth to the Greek nation.

theres different iq data that shows italians having the highest iq in europe

infact most of the data that shows scandinavia with higher iq is obscure

pic related is first result on google

Yes if it's just Nord Italians it would probably be a couple of points higher.

Yeah not true.

Southern Italians are kebab. Extinguish them.

>tfw your ancestors never accomplished anything worthwhile in the entirety of human history so you need to steal other peoples' accomplishment in order to feel better about yourself
this is the struggle both niggers and nordcucks face every day

Italy as a whole is largely what is was two millenia ago. Invaders left next to nothing. Invaders rarely replace native populations.

Come here to scotland then dick and tell me that again

>Nords
>Australian/British criminal

yet these worthless white niggers live in a much safer, richer and cleaner countries than you medniggers will ever be

nords and slavs are heavily mixed with asians so they lack creativity

thats why they have the least scientific and artistic contributions out of every sect of the white race

celts and meds rule nord and slavs go to the chambers

Lol. What are you talking about? It's true that women have in group bias and most women have brown hair.

Well that's objectify not true if you actually care about facts.

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Yes and in the other data it was much lower. Probably somewhere in the middle.

All the data shows that there's virtually no difference between Western Europeans and most Slavs also have a similar IQ.

I want all you nordicucks to take a look at scottish inventors and celebrities, remember that scotland is a country where the majority of its population has fair hair. You will notice that barely anybody on those lists has blonde hair, SAD!

>Fingolia
>Trying to shit talk to anyone

Come on now.

This is all BS. I have shown proof and you show no proof and you hide behind that flag.

Show flag or are you that Turk poster and want to d & c?

this
we was literally kings and ancient romans

>nords and slavs are heavily mixed with asians so they lack creativity
medcucks btfo

Dunno man, look at the Med, consider there's always been trade there and that one of the historical figures creditied with the foundation of Rome was Aenas, a Trojan/Turk.

yeah you sure showed me

phys.org/news/2017-08-civilizations-greece-revealing-stories-science.html

Sage Divide and conquer threads

you said something?

That's fulled by money alone. It's not natural.

Nords aren't mixed with asians...that's a meme-tier kike myth. Sad if you actually believe that

It's true that they are niggers though, don't really know why they're so obsessed with us though. Guess it's like all other subhumans.

reality

Well show us then and answer this

Instead of shitposting.

>blonde
It's called blond for men btw. Sad that you don't know your own language.

You seem very insecure.

>WE WUZ GREEKS N SHIT
HAHAHA

Then you should be proud of your current standing instead of trying to change history
Otherwise you are on the same level as yakub and medievalpoc

>accomplishments in 1400-1950
get with the times gramps, we are not living in the 15th century anymore

Give him 10 minutes and he'll post the periodic table to prove you wrong

Your countries' state is just a result of being irrelevant

Who would want to conquer Finland, for example? What would that achieve? A seaway to polar bears? Reindeer cooking recipes? Enlightenment through contact with the wise culture of European eskimos?

He's just defending against your slander, it was the Australian Celtnigger that claimed your history.

wrong

interpret this data however you want, but please make sure you take note of the significant genetic differences of nords and slavs compared with other halo groups

there is definitely something in the blood that makes nords and slavs inferior

Again you have to lie in order to win the argument. Sad!

At this point your just a troll. You don't even attempt to answer the post Mikko made.

"There is a noticeable genetic difference between theNorthern ItaliansandSouthern Italians, with the former being close to theFrenchpopulation, while the latter overlap with bothBalkanand othersouthern Europeanpopulations.[2][6][7][8]Yet, the genetic distance between Northern and Southern Italians, although pretty large from a single European 'nationality' point of view, is only roughly equal to the one between Northern Germans and Southern Germans.The genetic gap between Northern and Southern Italians is filled by an intermediate Central Italian cluster, creating a continuous cline of variation down the peninsula (with Sardinians as outliers) that mirrors geography.[10]

Molecular anthropology found no evidence of significant Northern geneflow into the Italian peninsula over the last 1500 years. On the other hand, the bulk of Italian ethnogenesis occurred prior to Germanic or non European invasions. Geneticists agree that no migrations other than the Greek and Balkan settlement in Southern Italy and Sicily had any substantial biological impact on Italians"

i am not trying to do that and i don't agree with the OP. i believe that ancient Greeks had dark features, just like they have now. i just disagree with these idiots that still live in the past and compare their countries from those periods to ours from the same period, because that's all they have.

You don't know what you're talking about. You're insecure and so you make silly statements that isn't backed by evidence.

>antipodian angloshit's opinion on anything short of venomous animals

It aussie OP that did that. Just a shitpost.

Show flag turk.

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Scottish celebrities I can name off the top of my head:
>Sean Connery; brown hair and brown eyes
>Gerard Butler; brown hair and blue eyes
>Ewan McGregor: brown hair and blue eyes
those are the top celebs in scotland, no blondies there mate.

as for inventors go, pic related.
>inb4 aging brown hair counts as fair
gasping at straws eh?

how is it lieing

the reality is that single little dot is all of Scandinavian scientific achievment through out history

even southern slavs have more achievments, thats insulting

even when you take the it on a per capita basis, its still embarassing

nordics are a joke of a race

>Who would want to conquer Finland, for example?
we don't have any natural resources in finland (other than trees) and our soil is so shit that even nowdays it's hard to grow anything, which is partly the reason for our irrelevance in the past.
but what has that do with anything i said? our quality of life is so good, that we can just sit back and relax, while the rest of the world burns

Perhaps you should go back to sucking off Odin's semen like the good little snownigger that you are, trying to claim med inventions is just fucking sad.

Majority of Nords have brown hair

and forgot to add that nobody wants to conquer finland. russia is the only minor threat

Yes, I saw that data too.

This kills the nordniggers who think they are white but in reality they are mudslim rapebabies

>ancient DNA suggests that living Greeks are indeed the descendants of Mycenaeans

sciencemag.org/news/2017/08/greeks-really-do-have-near-mythical-origins-ancient-dna-reveals?utm_source=newsfromscience&utm_medium=facebook-text&utm_campaign=thegreeks-14489

How the varg fags from the north caliphate can ever recover?

It would shatter his muh greek master race worldview

Jesus, Sven stfu the only thing your shitty country ever accomplished was being flagship of the European multi-culti movement. Your "scientists" are all niggers and your (((((white genes))))) have never contributed shit to shit even now as 1/4 of your women will get raped.

>yesterday thread about IQ
>today this
>same posts, same people, same arguments and links

Not this time Sup Forums. Not this time.

>show flag

ok btw im not even med, my dad was born in germany and mum was born in england

im just a race realists and nordics are the losers of history and their dna is inferior to the celtic master race