Why exactly do you hate him?

Why exactly do you hate him?

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I don't, I hate who follows him without even knowing his name

I hate him for being a jew who pushed for his flawed political system that ended up brainwashing millions and ultimately damaged the entirety of civilization and culture.

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I have a functional brain you dumbass.

I don't hate him, I see him as a joke. Everything I've read written by him strikes me as at best satire, and at worst schizophrenic jew ramblings. I hate the people who follow him and think any of what he said is the least bit plausible.

Ever since you shitskinned fucking animals have been coming to Sup Forums the quality has noticeably decreased that being said you will never ever convince the anons that matter when it comes to your shit starvation ideology.

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1. what does it have to do with him beeing a jew?

2. how can you blame Marx for other people misimplementing his system?

It was a letter TO Karl Marx, wasn't it?

Karl Marx's "Das Kapital" is still seen as an academic foundation for analysis of capitalist system.

>had no friends throughout primary school because he was such a pushy faggot.
>went to study law at University of Bonn
>joined a "tavern club" and ran up a huge debt
>was kicked out of UoB for doing poorly and being drunk all the time.
>he threatened that he would become a poet.
>when he wasn't writing overly sentimental letters to his parents, he was fighting with them while at the same time begging for more money.
>continued his half-arsed study of law at the University of Berlin, then switched to Philosophy the moment his father died.
>started sucking Hegelian cock with other left-wingers
>consumed with erasing Christianity. Probably wore a fedora at some point.
>Pussed out of presenting his Doctoral Thesis at Berlin, and instead transferred to a lesser university to get his Doctorate.
>married Jenny von Westphalan, and promptly failed at all his duties as a husband.
>never held an office or any sort of regular occupation.
>they were constantly living in filth and hunger.
>at least 3 of his children died from malnutrition, and 2 others committed suicide, probably to spare themselves from the shame of being related to him.
>when a relative gave him enough money to clear his debts and start life fresh, he took the money and went touring Germany and squandered all of the money.
>always an asshole, constantly being kicked out of organisations he was trying to game.
>wrote Das Kapital while laid up in bed covered in boils and other health problems.
>died alone like the wretched, worthless pile of shit he was

You'd be fucking crazy to subscribe to the ideas of a self important, alcoholic dead-beat who never held a real job.

he was wrong about literally everything

also he was jewish (which made him wrong about literally everything)

>self important, alcoholic dead-beat who never held a real job.
sounds to me like a lot of people on Sup Forums should be able to symphatise with him

His writing have led to the death of 100 million innocent civilians, several wars and are currently leading to the destruction of the west.

hurr durr muh wealth is unevenly distributed. wow literally fucking ground breaking. Now try coming up with a better system. Oh I guess you can't bc you're a kike and all you know how to do is complain.

he was right, just ahead of his time

No he was an internationalist Jew that would flood our nations with savage low IQ animals like you.

Elitist rich jews are responsible of many of the problems society has today, Marx himself included.
His system isn't "badly interpreted" but flawed on itself as it cannot possibly be implemented, it's impossible.

When commies parrot the typical "real communism has never existed " they're actually sort of right, there's some truth to their statement.

Communism hasn't been successful because it's simply impossible to actually try it, as the system itself is flawed and cannot be implemented, it's just a concept.

It has been tried, but it cannot succeed as its simply a concept impossible to implement in reality.

Still better than religiously following his writings.

>under communism you have no fucking food

missed that one, please amend ;)

yeah, he was so right, that in every country that his ideas have been practiced in, they've become failed states robbing everyone of their wealth, just like he wanted

>USSR
Poor shit-hole where millions of Christians died

>Vietnam
Poor shit-hole where millions of Vietnamese died

>China
Poor shit-hole where millions of Chinese died

>Laos
Poor shit-hole where millions of Laotians died

>Korea
Poor shit-hole where millions of Koreans (and Chinese) died

>Venezuela
Poor shit-hole where millions are going to die

See a pattern here, retard? You probably don't since your feeble mind can only absorb what your college professor and the main stream media tells you.

imbeciles don't consider the state of the world when he wrote those things

What's the over-under on that guy being COINTELPRO?

>white ethno-nationalist pushing single-payer healthcare and speaking positively about Marx

So at the very least, we can agree that there is a problem in wealth distribution?
Besides, I don't really understand why you are so agressive towards me. I am not your opressor, I am a common person just like you, a common person trying to come up with solutions for the problems our world faces today

>two shitskinned communists
I don't need to go on a diet niggers why don't you fuck off to Jenny Craigs.

Because he was a communist.

Average calorie intake actually goes up under communism.

under communism, soviet union went from a backward undeveloped country to superpower in like 30 years.
Can't you admit that it was quiet and achivement?

most of those who hate him never read a word from his writings, they just hate him so they don't look stupid

Vietnam is pretty successful, they even defeated the mighty America

And China is about to become the next superpower

Sage this shit. Prob the same commie fag shitting up other threads.

Thats because you starved everyone before hand. NatSoc actually produced stable prosperous societies, your lot produced Eastern Europe.

I thought communism had never been tried?

Because he was a communist >jew<
Fixed.

>Egypt
Why don't you practice communism in your sand lands you can take all these white liberals (dude weed man lmao) and leave us the fuck alone. I'm sure Egypt will be a space fearing society while we are stuck in a stone age.

>why
He wuz gwine roun sayin he all dat

>NatSoc actually produced stable prosperous societies

The guy was educated as a Zizek leftist and became an antiwar libertarian before becoming a white nationalist.

Yes but it did so by taking shortcuts, starving people and imprisoning millions in slave labor camps.

>NatSoc actually produced stable prosperous societies
Then why didn't it last longer than 12 years

>nigger tyrone.jpg
NatSoc had Rhodesia you have Zimbabwe now see yourself out the fucking door.

>China is about to become the next superpower
With the power of the mighty capitalism, lol

Because his stupid ideas have caused millions of deaths and crushed millions of souls.

because of bad harvest and administrative mismanagement. stuff like this happened in feudal societies all the time.
To pretend this is an inherent flaw of communism/socialism is intellectually dishonest

You are nothing like me you pathetic faggot I'd give you a helicopter ride with absolutely zero regret if I had the chance.

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>Sup Forums isn't the right's hugbox anymore
>t-t-the q-quality of p-p-post is d-decreasing

said the country responsible for the spread of islamic fundamentalism on top of bombing millions of people

it saddens to me that you would be willing to kill a fellow human beeing just because of political differences

Spain.
Portugal.
>North korea

Just take the redpill already. Marxist cunts you are like virgins fucking pussy for the first time, dont poke it, fuck it. Subhumans, Race traitors and Jews will destroy socialism every time you cant escape biology.

what? national socialism is the distinct german form of facism
dunno what other countries have to do with it

>BUT YOU DID BAD THINGS TOO

He wants to take my private property, all my collected capital and give it to a BASED black man.

If I refuse, I'm sent to the Gulags as the filthy Kulak I am.

Still needed basic forms of capitalism and very limited cash injections to start it

Go away and think about what you just said.

Because the proponents of the very system he created attacked the country that prospered with NatSoc.

It's an ideology that tries to intellectualise simple greed and takes root in the minds of people who try to rationalise their envy as a form of charity.

It also (despite it's claims) takes the same "slot" in the mind as a religion would. Trying to become a part of every facet of life, explaining itself into everything and demanding it be spread like a cancer across humanity.

>It is now completely clear to me that he, as is proved by his cranial formation and his hair, descends from the Negroes who had joined Moses’ exodus from Egypt, assuming that his mother or grandmother on the paternal side had not interbred with a nigger. Now this union of Judaism and Germanism with a basic Negro substance must produce a peculiar product. The obtrusiveness of the fellow is also nigger-like.
t. Karl Marx

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>>self important, alcoholic dead-beat who never held a real job.
>sounds to me like a lot of people on Sup Forums should be able to symphatise with him

Judging the whole of 4chans audience by your own standards are we ! Looks like you are the useless dead beat !

Also like religion it is fiercely dogmatic and averse to change, because if you think you're perfect, why would you change?

So it fucks up over and over, projecting it's failures onto others. The ideology itself does it and this csrries on into the mouths of its disciples.

Marx wasn't against capitalism, he thought it was a necessary step in human development
hunter gatheres > slaver society > feudal lords > capitalism > socialism > communism

My grand-grandpa died in a gulag.
Europe is being destroyed because of his ideas.
The jews rule us because of his ideas.

There is no single reason for me NOT to hate him.

Soviet Union and Nazi Germany had a non-agressive pact until Hitler broke it

how does this make you feel?

If NatSoc and Marxists ever have a first principle it will be putting liberals up against the wall. After that all bets are off.

Excellent observations, retarded conclusions, absurd amount of certainty in said conclusions.

Dialectical materialism is an excellent way to investigate history, but a ridiculous way to come to conclusions and write narratives.

Everything good, possible and practical he put forward can be gleaned from reading Hegel and Ricardo though.

Hierarchy is innate in all primates, some are rewarded more for contributing less, there are other factors in social status besides what you are capable of producing. When Marxist economic theory is applied, shortages pop up everywhere and people starve. You can take America and capitalist powers out of the equation and still see how Marxism would not work with pretty much any credible economic theory investigative tools.

Marx isn't concerned with prices, but rather value, but not what commodities and goods an individual values, but rather what commodities and goods the society values - this concept is simply too advanced for much for the average person to understand much less adhere to. It is also impossible to quantify properly due to the specious nature of the concept and the fact that human beings aren't theoretical objects in a dialectical argument, but individuals with ever changing needs and desires.

He wants to minimize labour while maximizing production which is an oxymoron, but thinks he can get around this with rigorous central planning (which is supposed to be democratic at the same time - lol. The average person is borderline retarded and can't even grasp Marx's ideas much less vote on an ideal way to plan production - this is also why some people are at the top while others are at the bottom).

His ideas are so lofty they amount to a religion that he and his followers want to force on people, and it is much more detrimental than Chrsitianity ever was, because it directly interferes in the material realm.

So where can I cash that note now?

>communist
>human
try again if you please

Stalin would have invaded Europe if Hitler wouldnt have attacked him.
Are you russian? Because I allways hear this idiotic argument from fellow russians.

believe me: BAD.

His system is either impossible to attain, making it useless, or has failed dozens of times it was tried.

besser?

where is the proof?

>Are you russian?
Ich bin Deutscher

How old are you and what do you think the commies have done to the upper and even middle class during the revolution in 1917?

>Vietnam is pretty successful, they even defeated the mighty America
Just like the Afghans defeated the mighty USSR
>And China is about to become the next superpower
After it adopted reforms that resulted in more open markets, and distanced itself ideologically and policy-wise from communism.
Mao's China was indeed communist, and resulted in millions of deaths, today's China isn't communist at all, and its very successful, same with Vietnam

Proof?
Soviet Union totaly didnt expand its influence after 1945...

>If you kill your enemy, they win.

Ok cuckboy

He was part of the creation of a political system that rejects human nature.

Communism and Marxism does not work on paper and has proven to not work in real life.

>misimplementing

next time it will be correctly implemented then?!... i swear you fucking retards need to die so baddly

Good post.

Of note, Marx was the editor at a few newspapers which basically amounted to zines(though he did do foreign reporting for NYT etc.) and Engels was the son of a wealthy factory owner, and was given an obvious sinecure as part of a management team, once complaining they demanded he show up at work at 10 am, the definition of the un-fireable boss's son. This is how they formed their concepts of production management, and the idea that management was not a useful skill or talent and could be done by anyone. When the Russians abolished, murdered and exiled the aristocracy, they were left without managers, people who had the skills and talent and personality (not just domineering, but rather, personable) sand intellect required to manage people and production. In the late 20s they began to rehabilitate the aristocracy and gave them positions of state power because they gave all the management positions to the unskilled and inexperienced academics and were all fucking starving.

That is Marxism. That is communism

Russian aristocrats weren't managers. They were quite literally parasites, save for exceptions.
Just correcting you about that, I'm not saying Bolsheviks were good.

more and more jobs are gonna be made by machines in the future
If the common man is to prosper in that world, communism is needed

I dont hate Marx, he had interesting ideas on the dynamics of democracy and capitalism.

I just hate his brain-dead supporters who keep on supporting complete dictatorships just so they can call themselves "communist"

The common man is not to prosper. Its the greater man who should prosper.
Thats exactly the human and nature hating you fucking commies entertain.

>Russian aristocrats weren't managers. They were quite literally parasites, save for exceptions.
>Just correcting you about that, I'm not saying Bolsheviks were good.

The lesser nobility had experience at managing they were mayors and tax collectors and merchants - they organized people and labour and were the only ones with experience at doing this.

Russia went from feudalism to communism, not capitalism (with a middle class of non-noble managers) to communism.

Can somebody post the "communism explained by capitalists vs capitalism explained by communists" image?

So yeah, you haven't corrected me about anything. I've taken 3 years of communism (western history)in university and have read about a half dozen books on the subject.

yeah no

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Not really. They delegated those tasks to others.
All they did was reap benefits. Again, save for exceptions.

Shitheaded theories that even he realised were fucked up.

What?
It's even less needed, bordering on obsolete.

We're not an agrarian society anymore and a post scarcity utopia is about as far removed from communism as you can get since almost nobody even works.

The arm witch defends the head works against its own intrest as it gets injured.
>what is hierarchy
>what is a society?

You're wrong. You been eating too much propaganda, or are unfamiliar with the Russian feudal system. We're talking about counts and mayors here, not kings and queens and princes.

if we keep our current capitalist system in a automatized world, the capitalists will simply fire workers and replace them with cheaper machines.
So the majority of the people will live in absolute poverty while a few machine owners (capitalists) will be filthy rich

Nope, you either didn't read about Russian society or you read propaganda.
Nobles didn't run their property directly. This was usually done by non-noble managers.

>Lazy Jewish NEET that talks about labor but has never had a job
Why tf would anyone listen to him?

google "where to buy my own 3d printer"
and "how to register an intellectual property trademark"

Congratulations, you now can buy your own means of production for about 3000 bucks, less than a semester at a university that will teach you how to be a communist.

I'm not going to argue this point with you.

So the choice is either crony capitalism or communism?
This is the stupid false choice communism has always offered.

I'll just be replacing a board of directors with a board of central planners.

>"here user! Come work in my...err- YOUR factory!"

Why not a system of smaller societies similar to anarchy or minichary? Where people's votes count for more and communities can even be self reliant? Choosing their own destiny?