>There was no hack of the Democratic National Committee’s system on July 5 last year—not by the Russians, not by anyone else. Hard science now demonstrates it was a leak—a download executed locally with a memory key or a similarly portable data-storage device. In short, it was an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system. This casts serious doubt on the initial “hack,” as alleged, that led to the very consequential publication of a large store of documents on WikiLeaks last summer.
>Forensic investigations of documents made public two weeks prior to the July 5 leak by the person or entity known as Guccifer 2.0 show that they were fraudulent: Before Guccifer posted them they were adulterated by cutting and pasting them into a blank template that had Russian as its default language. Guccifer took responsibility on June 15 for an intrusion the DNC reported on June 14 and professed to be a WikiLeaks source—claims essential to the official narrative implicating Russia in what was soon cast as an extensive hacking operation. To put the point simply, forensic science now devastates this narrative.
>Forensicator’s first decisive findings, made public in the paper dated July 9, concerned the volume of the supposedly hacked material and what is called the transfer rate—the time a remote hack would require. The metadata established several facts in this regard with granular precision: On the evening of July 5, 2016, 1,976 megabytes of data were downloaded from the DNC’s server. The operation took 87 seconds. This yields a transfer rate of 22.7 megabytes per second.
>“A speed of 22.7 megabytes is simply unobtainable, especially if we are talking about a transoceanic data transfer,” Folden said. “Based on the data we now have, what we’ve been calling a hack is impossible.”
>I will comment on only one question raised here. It has to do w/ anonymity, a matter I looked into carefully and repeatedly during the reporting. As noted in what I wrote, anonymity in this field is respected as common practice.
>Last night I had a note from Adam Carter in which he addressed this question of identity. (I didn't solicit his remarks on the topic.) He wrote in part:
>"Please know that both Forensicator and myself only choose to remain behind pseudonyms for security. (Understanding Guccifer 2.0's purpose makes it clear to us that whoever it is, they are connected to influential and wealthy politicians that are not likely to be happy about this being exposed and the prospect of it being who we think it is does not make us feel any safer.)"
>Adam Carter went on to note he and colleagues are aware of the inconvenience their decisions to remain anonymous imposes.
>I see nothing peculiar in this judgment. I ought to add that some of my intelligence sources warned me as we finished our work together to be careful driving, esp at night and esp on the country roads I traverse to get home. This is not funny business, I was firmly advised. I'm not in a position to judge these kinds of things directly, but they are, and so I take their word for it.
>That's that.
>As to all or most of the other remarks in this thread, nothing in any of them alters in the slightest detail anything readers will find in the piece. We're bolted to the floor on this one.
>Cheers to all.
>Patrick Lawrence.
Hunter Cooper
bump
Christopher Gomez
literally no interest on this? WTF happened to this place?
Joseph King
last bump before I let it die
Brody Allen
Bump
Charles Foster
wasn't this the dumb analysis that hinged on the fact the files had been copied at some point?
Joseph Murphy
read the article bong. Just the fact that liberal sites are starting to admit it probably wasn't a hack is a good sign the kikes narrative is collapsing.
Zachary Sanders
>10 minute old thread >Ughhh, you guise... I give up Bump for the faggot
Josiah King
Sadly I feel nothing can stop the normie from chanting Russia
>lel captcha
Carson Cruz
>piercing not my nazi waifu.
Nicholas Rogers
No shit. There was no hack.
Julian Martinez
In the last two weeks, that's WaPo, CNN, USA Today, and now The Nation, all running "Whoa, let's all back away from the Russia hacking thing" articles. They finally figured out how badly it's gonna blow up in their faces.
Samuel Martin
Very interesting. Most liberals, unless they are truly batshit crazy, will admit they don't believe the Russia hacks happened, but good luck getting them to report on it. Keep in mind that they'll concede that Russia did not hack the DNC, but they'll still blather on about how "Trump colluded with Russia to hack the election." Bump.
Aaron Green
In my defense it was on page 10 when i sent that bump
Brandon Powell
i just went and looked at the analysis itself: yeah, it's the dumb one based on copy times and poor conclusions being drawn off that data.
>muh liberal sites lol
Gavin Kelly
In your opinion why are the conclusions so poor?
Hudson Nguyen
To be fair, you don't need to be smart to realize the DNC wasn't hacked by Russia.
Bentley Hernandez
bump because trump was 100% right we're gonna win so much we're gonna get tired of winning
Nathaniel Gray
bump
Ian Parker
> unless they are truly batshit crazy, will admit they don't believe the Russia hacks happened Every liber I know, which is a lot because of where I live, completely and unquestionably buy the russian hacking story.
Jace Thomas
Which means it was an internal leak, not an external hack.
And his name was Seth Rich
Logan Adams
HIS
Dylan White
NAME
Jaxson Clark
WAS
Joshua Lewis
THIS
Jacob Cox
Bump
Gabriel Peterson
>They finally figured out how badly it's gonna blow up in their faces.
it's just getting started!!
Jack Lee
old news
Tyler Roberts
for conservative sites, not for the liberal outlets.
there are presumptions made here including: >timezones on the computers involved were not manipulated >timestamps were not manipulated >the copying which generated the metadata was the copying from the servers (they account for some later movement of files incl rarr'ing) and not a post-hack prep process
it's interesting but flimsy. without access to the affected machines they're pretty worthless.
Eli Barnes
>without access to the affected machines they're pretty worthless. Well doesn't that just make the DNC look more guilty by not turning the server over to the FBI
Evan Gray
Post yfw you realize every smug, cocksucking socialist faggot you know will pretend like muh Russia wasn't a thing that occupied their social media soapbox agendas for six months.
Brody Reyes
that's a judgement only the fbi personnel working on the case can make - it depends on the forensic data provided to them by crowdstrike.
Noah Thomas
>forensic data provided to them by crowdstrike. kek
Jason Jenkins
But dude CNN and John McCain said it was a hack we must trust the MSM and Congress on this issue even though we've said they're liars about everything else
Lucas Nguyen
>16:25:38 >16:30:45
why the low attention span, bruv? something you need to work on?
Easton Baker
I'm just retarded when it comes to posting threads as opposed to my sweet spot of lurking and firing off snippy one liners
Dylan Reyes
thenation.com
get some real sources or fuck off.
Luis Bailey
moar and nuder
Robert Harris
youre a fucking moron. The whole point of the post is that liberal outlets are starting to report on there never being a hack.
Carter Reyes
I don't know why but this literally infuriates me. I can feel my autism coming out..
Andrew Hill
Yes this is how the overton window gets widened do not be angry at hans he is yet to grasp the way the stage is set
Jack Ortiz
>dumb analysis you mean actual forensic analysis as opposed to propaganda bullshit?
Luke Collins
>there are presumptions made here
Sure, but the files came from someone who was trying to prove that the server *was* hacked from overseas and the files copied remotely. They had no reason to alter timestamps or anything else to make that look impossible. Just the opposite. If they'd thought to alter the metadata, they would have added time, not subtracted it. They just missed it.
Anthony Foster
i just see failing news sites trying to capitalize on click bait stories
if not other news sites reporting it's just fake news.
Jose Bailey
this nigga didn't even read the article. There is nothing clickbaity about it.
Caleb Lopez
*if no other news site is reporting this it's probably just fake news.
Jack Flores
So you're telling me that right after I find out that a powerful organization is deeply corrupt, I shouldn't automatically believe the first excuse that comes out of their mouth!? Wtf
Mason Flores
Gib me digis and Mueller is fired by the weekend
Logan Howard
Someone is DDOSing thenation-site, opens so slowly and waiting...
Blake Foster
So this basically proves the DNC lied about the Russians and they are being proven that this entire Russian hysteria is all based upon a lie from the dems. Could this be related to Seth Rich?!
Isaac Bell
g-2.space/ the evidence presented that the files were faked to look "russian" is close to indisputable. the only possible alternative is that the russians faked the files to look like they were hacked by russians but purposefully did a bad job of faking it in order to try to show that it wasn't actually russians. those russians are some sneaky fuckers but that seems a little implausible.
Elijah Hernandez
The ever cresting wave. When's it going to hit ffs?
>t. Debbie Wasserface Shultz
Ayden Thompson
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Zachary Sanchez
>checked
I don't know, Russians do love themselves so chess, and that would be chess on a level never before thought of
Aaron Baker
I keep hearing it will blow up in their face.
How is it going to blow up in the Dems face? I know the whole story was built on a lie and it will hurt the dems credibility but it's Fucking DemoRATS we are talking about here....these fuckers lie daily on huge levels and run with it. Look how they lied about Healthcare that millions are literally going to be killed because of republicans. I just wanted to know I'm depth how it will blow up in their face besides hurting their credibility?
John Cook
evidently it was not a hack. Not a remote evidence of collusion. Takes time but they will admit it.
meanwhile the DNC investigation...
Christian Peterson
this is actually brilliant
Elijah Cox
ooops
But what about "MUH RUSSIANS"
fucking xenophobic hypocritical cunt rags.
Julian Rivera
>source are forensic findings made public a month ago
if this would be legit the turmp media would be all over it a month ago
so there is most likley something seriously wrong with this paper
Jaxon Bailey
KANGZ
Connor Lewis
don't you know by now that the democrats cannot be discredited, goy?
Nathaniel Cooper
IF YOU DON'T BUMP THIS THERE WON'T BE A RACE WAR!
Jose Rodriguez
Let's see how much the Awans shared with other country(ies) & just how much $$$ in "computer equipment & servers" they got away with stealing - along with what intel they were storing on their own cloud server. Awans had access to over 80 dems' systems, including: Cedric Richmond, Committee on Homeland Security, ranking member on Terrorism and Cybersecurity subcommittee; Andre Carson, House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, ranking member on Emerging Threats Subcommittee which is responsible for counterterrorism oversight, member of the Department of Defense Intelligence and Overhead Architecture Subcommittee; Ted Lieu subcommittee on National Security Is the word, "AWAN" ever mentioned on any "news" outlets, including Faux Opinion channel? Are Awans EVER mentioned anywhere? But muh Russia & Manafort!
Joseph Kelly
yeah just read this from my (((google))) feed
sad it took this long for people to figure it out
I mean Clapper "hand-picked" people to write an "assessment" without evidence and some guy appears right after the leak to claim he did it while trying to look russian
Jaxon Cox
Quick bump. Let me read this shit first ffs.
Ryan Lewis
bump
can this get a fucking single breath in actual msm? it's so goddamn telling that it's not. truly. fucking. infuriating.
Tyler Morales
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Xavier Sullivan
>archive.is/bh8JU Tbh senpai, Unless its CNN or other lefty outlets reporting this, the Russia Narrative will never leave. Good read though.
Andrew Wright
bump
Connor Robinson
>When the narrative is leaking in the liberal sphere on Berkeley's KPFA >Flashpoints "It's a leak and why it's not a hack" kpfa.org/player/?audio=265741
Hunter Carter
>A speed of 22.7 megabytes is simply unobtainable
wat
Robert Watson
I feel your pain, user. But don't hold your breath.
Jason Perez
its a crack in the dam holding back all of the info. slowly but surely the truth will seep through the crack before the dam eventually collapses. Then its DotR time
Henry Nguyen
1,000+ seats lost since 2008 or so.
Evan Morris
what do you fuckers think of this line?
>All sides agree that relations between the United States and Russia are now as fragile as they were during some of the Cold War’s worst moments. To suggest that military conflict between two nuclear powers inches ever closer can no longer be dismissed as hyperbole.
I didn't think the sanctions were that big of a deal, at least the media didn't report on it like this.
Lucas Bennett
from a few threads I read, the sanctions are actually a pretty big deal because it threatens Russian oil and gas access to western europe.
Colton Phillips
Any military action is mutually assured destruction. It can still be dismissed as hyperbole.
Aaron Young
So are we going to have to watch the left admit the hack storyline was a lie and the non-stop "Trump is a Russia agent and hacked the election!!!" was literally just the media pushing propaganda?!
Andrew Rodriguez
It's been fact on Berkeley's super liberal KPFA show Flashpoints since August 3rd. Dennis Bernstein brings up "It's a leak and not a hack" nearly every show. If the narrative is falling apart in Berkeley, it'll soon fall apart in MSM.
Angel Torres
>How is it going to blow up in the Dems face?
From Rosenstein's letter appointing Mueller:
>(i) any links an or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and >(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation
Mueller isn't going after Trump. The Left and their Russian collusion hoax are fucked. Not to mention the fact we're sanctioning Russia for something that didn't happen. There will be consequences for this.
Hunter Cooper
They don't need the DNC hack for their narrative anymore. Don Jr met with a "Kremlin-connected lawyer". Manafort was raided by the FBI. "Collusion" is the word now, and it's treated as a settled fact. And Seth Rich is still a wacky conspiracy theory, possibly invented by Donald Trump himself, and planted in the Fake News media by the countless Russian agents and white supremacists that control the American media.
Jeremiah Gutierrez
Russians pretending to be incompetent Russians, are intentionally leaving digital Russian breadcrumbs that apparently lead back to themselves anyway,
Isaiah Flores
I dunno if it's blowing up in anyone's face or if they're even wrong, but they are indeed backing away from the russia thing. MSNBC up until this week was literally 24/7 trump=russia stories, even when talking about something else, they would work russia into it, and talking about something else was rare. Maybe it's just NK being a new opportunity for views and they're keeping their powder dry for afterwords, but it's blatantly obvious they've backed off now.
Caleb Diaz
Ahmed knows, why are you taking a troll seriously?
Filter it and move on, Christ...
Samuel Reyes
>but it's blatantly obvious they've backed off now There's blood in the water; time to finish off MSM. This could blow up worse than "Iraq did 9/111".
Connor Martinez
bump
Andrew Moore
>or if they're even wrong Radical centrists are so fucking pathetic.
Liam Clark
bumpity bump
Chase Sanchez
MMMMM I can almost taste the consequences
Owen Rogers
them digits
Benjamin Rogers
so they're admitting they're fake news?
James Williams
he's here
Parker Wright
>The Nation is the oldest continuously published weekly magazine in the United States, and the most widely read weekly journal of liberal/progressive political and cultural news, opinion, and analysis. It was founded on July 6, 1865, as a successor to William Lloyd Garrison's The Liberator, with the stated mission to "make an earnest effort to bring to the discussion of political and social questions a really critical spirit, and to wage war upon the vices of violence, exaggeration, and misrepresentation by which so much of the political writing of the day is marred". It is published by The Nation Company, L.P., at 33 Irving Place, New York City. and associated with The Nation Institute.
You were saying, faggot?
James Evans
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Carson Murphy
Dems savagely BTFO by truth
Nathaniel Davis
Actually, to add to it. There might be an alternative explanation. Yesterday or the day before MSNBC had a few segments about trust in the media, as done by some researcher, and MSNBC was shown to be one of the sources on the negative trust side. Ari Melber, one of the anchors for a show, even put up a graph showing it, which surprised me that they would do, but maybe it means they got spooked and realized they need to reign themselves in, as they were keeping company with places like breitbart, foxnews, and alex jones.
All I'm trying to say is that regardless of what you think of all of this, there's clearly an effort to step back.
Dylan Wilson
I think the problem is that everyone here already knew or strongly suspected (his name was Seth Rich), so it's kind of old news. But good stuff to show normies.