Liberal Outlets starting to admit there was no DNC hack

>There was no hack of the Democratic National Committee’s system on July 5 last year—not by the Russians, not by anyone else. Hard science now demonstrates it was a leak—a download executed locally with a memory key or a similarly portable data-storage device. In short, it was an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system. This casts serious doubt on the initial “hack,” as alleged, that led to the very consequential publication of a large store of documents on WikiLeaks last summer.

>Forensic investigations of documents made public two weeks prior to the July 5 leak by the person or entity known as Guccifer 2.0 show that they were fraudulent: Before Guccifer posted them they were adulterated by cutting and pasting them into a blank template that had Russian as its default language. Guccifer took responsibility on June 15 for an intrusion the DNC reported on June 14 and professed to be a WikiLeaks source—claims essential to the official narrative implicating Russia in what was soon cast as an extensive hacking operation. To put the point simply, forensic science now devastates this narrative.

>Forensicator’s first decisive findings, made public in the paper dated July 9, concerned the volume of the supposedly hacked material and what is called the transfer rate—the time a remote hack would require. The metadata established several facts in this regard with granular precision: On the evening of July 5, 2016, 1,976 megabytes of data were downloaded from the DNC’s server. The operation took 87 seconds. This yields a transfer rate of 22.7 megabytes per second.

>“A speed of 22.7 megabytes is simply unobtainable, especially if we are talking about a transoceanic data transfer,” Folden said. “Based on the data we now have, what we’ve been calling a hack is impossible.”

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theforensicator.wordpress.com/guccifer-2-ngp-van-metadata-analysis/
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assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3726381/Robert-Mueller-Special-Counsel-Russia.pdf
twitter.com/AnonBabble

From the Author in the comments:

>Hello.

>I will comment on only one question raised here. It has to do w/ anonymity, a matter I looked into carefully and repeatedly during the reporting. As noted in what I wrote, anonymity in this field is respected as common practice.

>Last night I had a note from Adam Carter in which he addressed this question of identity. (I didn't solicit his remarks on the topic.) He wrote in part:

>"Please know that both Forensicator and myself only choose to remain behind pseudonyms for security. (Understanding Guccifer 2.0's purpose makes it clear to us that whoever it is, they are connected to influential and wealthy politicians that are not likely to be happy about this being exposed and the prospect of it being who we think it is does not make us feel any safer.)"

>Adam Carter went on to note he and colleagues are aware of the inconvenience their decisions to remain anonymous imposes.

>I see nothing peculiar in this judgment. I ought to add that some of my intelligence sources warned me as we finished our work together to be careful driving, esp at night and esp on the country roads I traverse to get home. This is not funny business, I was firmly advised. I'm not in a position to judge these kinds of things directly, but they are, and so I take their word for it.

>That's that.

>As to all or most of the other remarks in this thread, nothing in any of them alters in the slightest detail anything readers will find in the piece. We're bolted to the floor on this one.

>Cheers to all.

>Patrick Lawrence.

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literally no interest on this? WTF happened to this place?

last bump before I let it die

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wasn't this the dumb analysis that hinged on the fact the files had been copied at some point?

read the article bong. Just the fact that liberal sites are starting to admit it probably wasn't a hack is a good sign the kikes narrative is collapsing.

>10 minute old thread
>Ughhh, you guise... I give up
Bump for the faggot

Sadly I feel nothing can stop the normie from chanting Russia

>lel captcha

>piercing
not my nazi waifu.

No shit. There was no hack.

In the last two weeks, that's WaPo, CNN, USA Today, and now The Nation, all running "Whoa, let's all back away from the Russia hacking thing" articles. They finally figured out how badly it's gonna blow up in their faces.

Very interesting. Most liberals, unless they are truly batshit crazy, will admit they don't believe the Russia hacks happened, but good luck getting them to report on it. Keep in mind that they'll concede that Russia did not hack the DNC, but they'll still blather on about how "Trump colluded with Russia to hack the election." Bump.

In my defense it was on page 10 when i sent that bump

i just went and looked at the analysis itself:
yeah, it's the dumb one based on copy times and poor conclusions being drawn off that data.

>muh liberal sites
lol

In your opinion why are the conclusions so poor?

To be fair, you don't need to be smart to realize the DNC wasn't hacked by Russia.

bump because trump was 100% right
we're gonna win so much we're gonna get tired of winning

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> unless they are truly batshit crazy, will admit they don't believe the Russia hacks happened
Every liber I know, which is a lot because of where I live, completely and unquestionably buy the russian hacking story.

Which means it was an internal leak, not an external hack.

And his name was Seth Rich

HIS

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THIS

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>They finally figured out how badly it's gonna blow up in their faces.

it's just getting started!!

old news

for conservative sites, not for the liberal outlets.

here's the full analysis:
theforensicator.wordpress.com/guccifer-2-ngp-van-metadata-analysis/

there are presumptions made here including:
>timezones on the computers involved were not manipulated
>timestamps were not manipulated
>the copying which generated the metadata was the copying from the servers (they account for some later movement of files incl rarr'ing) and not a post-hack prep process

it's interesting but flimsy. without access to the affected machines they're pretty worthless.

>without access to the affected machines they're pretty worthless.
Well doesn't that just make the DNC look more guilty by not turning the server over to the FBI

Post yfw you realize every smug, cocksucking socialist faggot you know will pretend like muh Russia wasn't a thing that occupied their social media soapbox agendas for six months.

that's a judgement only the fbi personnel working on the case can make - it depends on the forensic data provided to them by crowdstrike.

>forensic data provided to them by crowdstrike.
kek

But dude CNN and John McCain said it was a hack we must trust the MSM and Congress on this issue even though we've said they're liars about everything else

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>16:30:45

why the low attention span, bruv? something you need to work on?

I'm just retarded when it comes to posting threads as opposed to my sweet spot of lurking and firing off snippy one liners

thenation.com

get some real sources or fuck off.

moar and nuder

youre a fucking moron. The whole point of the post is that liberal outlets are starting to report on there never being a hack.

I don't know why but this literally infuriates me. I can feel my autism coming out..

Yes this is how the overton window gets widened do not be angry at hans he is yet to grasp the way the stage is set

>dumb analysis
you mean actual forensic analysis as opposed to propaganda bullshit?

>there are presumptions made here

Sure, but the files came from someone who was trying to prove that the server *was* hacked from overseas and the files copied remotely. They had no reason to alter timestamps or anything else to make that look impossible. Just the opposite. If they'd thought to alter the metadata, they would have added time, not subtracted it. They just missed it.

i just see failing news sites trying to capitalize on click bait stories

if not other news sites reporting it's just fake news.

this nigga didn't even read the article. There is nothing clickbaity about it.

*if no other news site is reporting this it's probably just fake news.

So you're telling me that right after I find out that a powerful organization is deeply corrupt, I shouldn't automatically believe the first excuse that comes out of their mouth!?
Wtf

Gib me digis and Mueller is fired by the weekend

Someone is DDOSing thenation-site, opens so slowly and waiting...

So this basically proves the DNC lied about the Russians and they are being proven that this entire Russian hysteria is all based upon a lie from the dems. Could this be related to Seth Rich?!

g-2.space/ the evidence presented that the files were faked to look "russian" is close to indisputable. the only possible alternative is that the russians faked the files to look like they were hacked by russians but purposefully did a bad job of faking it in order to try to show that it wasn't actually russians. those russians are some sneaky fuckers but that seems a little implausible.

The ever cresting wave. When's it going to hit ffs?

>t. Debbie Wasserface Shultz

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I don't know, Russians do love themselves so chess, and that would be chess on a level never before thought of

I keep hearing it will blow up in their face.

How is it going to blow up in the Dems face? I know the whole story was built on a lie and it will hurt the dems credibility but it's Fucking DemoRATS we are talking about here....these fuckers lie daily on huge levels and run with it. Look how they lied about Healthcare that millions are literally going to be killed because of republicans. I just wanted to know I'm depth how it will blow up in their face besides hurting their credibility?

evidently it was not a hack. Not a remote evidence of collusion. Takes time but they will admit it.

meanwhile the DNC investigation...

this is actually brilliant

ooops


But what about "MUH RUSSIANS"

fucking xenophobic hypocritical cunt rags.

>source are forensic findings made public a month ago

if this would be legit the turmp media would be all over it a month ago

so there is most likley something seriously wrong with this paper

KANGZ

don't you know by now that the democrats cannot be discredited, goy?

IF YOU DON'T BUMP THIS THERE WON'T BE A RACE WAR!

Let's see how much the Awans shared with other country(ies) & just how much $$$ in "computer equipment & servers" they got away with stealing - along with what intel they were storing on their own cloud server.
Awans had access to over 80 dems' systems, including:
Cedric Richmond, Committee on Homeland Security, ranking member on Terrorism and Cybersecurity subcommittee;
Andre Carson, House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, ranking member on Emerging Threats Subcommittee which is responsible for counterterrorism oversight, member of the Department of Defense Intelligence and Overhead Architecture Subcommittee;
Ted Lieu subcommittee on National Security
Is the word, "AWAN" ever mentioned on any "news" outlets, including Faux Opinion channel?
Are Awans EVER mentioned anywhere? But muh Russia & Manafort!

yeah just read this from my (((google))) feed

sad it took this long for people to figure it out

I mean Clapper "hand-picked" people to write an "assessment" without evidence and some guy appears right after the leak to claim he did it while trying to look russian

Quick bump. Let me read this shit first ffs.

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can this get a fucking single breath in actual msm? it's so goddamn telling that it's not. truly. fucking. infuriating.

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>archive.is/bh8JU
Tbh senpai, Unless its CNN or other lefty outlets reporting this, the Russia Narrative will never leave. Good read though.

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>When the narrative is leaking in the liberal sphere on Berkeley's KPFA
>Flashpoints "It's a leak and why it's not a hack"
kpfa.org/player/?audio=265741

>A speed of 22.7 megabytes is simply unobtainable

wat

I feel your pain, user. But don't hold your breath.

its a crack in the dam holding back all of the info. slowly but surely the truth will seep through the crack before the dam eventually collapses.
Then its DotR time

1,000+ seats lost since 2008 or so.

what do you fuckers think of this line?

>All sides agree that relations between the United States and Russia are now as fragile as they were during some of the Cold War’s worst moments. To suggest that military conflict between two nuclear powers inches ever closer can no longer be dismissed as hyperbole.

I didn't think the sanctions were that big of a deal, at least the media didn't report on it like this.

from a few threads I read, the sanctions are actually a pretty big deal because it threatens Russian oil and gas access to western europe.

Any military action is mutually assured destruction. It can still be dismissed as hyperbole.

So are we going to have to watch the left admit the hack storyline was a lie and the non-stop "Trump is a Russia agent and hacked the election!!!" was literally just the media pushing propaganda?!

It's been fact on Berkeley's super liberal KPFA show Flashpoints since August 3rd. Dennis Bernstein brings up "It's a leak and not a hack" nearly every show. If the narrative is falling apart in Berkeley, it'll soon fall apart in MSM.

>How is it going to blow up in the Dems face?

From Rosenstein's letter appointing Mueller:

>(i) any links an or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and
>(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation

assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3726381/Robert-Mueller-Special-Counsel-Russia.pdf

Mueller isn't going after Trump. The Left and their Russian collusion hoax are fucked. Not to mention the fact we're sanctioning Russia for something that didn't happen. There will be consequences for this.

They don't need the DNC hack for their narrative anymore. Don Jr met with a "Kremlin-connected lawyer". Manafort was raided by the FBI. "Collusion" is the word now, and it's treated as a settled fact. And Seth Rich is still a wacky conspiracy theory, possibly invented by Donald Trump himself, and planted in the Fake News media by the countless Russian agents and white supremacists that control the American media.

Russians pretending to be incompetent Russians, are intentionally leaving digital Russian breadcrumbs that apparently lead back to themselves anyway,

I dunno if it's blowing up in anyone's face or if they're even wrong, but they are indeed backing away from the russia thing. MSNBC up until this week was literally 24/7 trump=russia stories, even when talking about something else, they would work russia into it, and talking about something else was rare. Maybe it's just NK being a new opportunity for views and they're keeping their powder dry for afterwords, but it's blatantly obvious they've backed off now.

Ahmed knows, why are you taking a troll seriously?

Filter it and move on, Christ...

>but it's blatantly obvious they've backed off now
There's blood in the water; time to finish off MSM. This could blow up worse than "Iraq did 9/111".

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>or if they're even wrong
Radical centrists are so fucking pathetic.

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MMMMM I can almost taste the consequences

them digits

so they're admitting they're fake news?

he's here

>The Nation is the oldest continuously published weekly magazine in the United States, and the most widely read weekly journal of liberal/progressive political and cultural news, opinion, and analysis. It was founded on July 6, 1865, as a successor to William Lloyd Garrison's The Liberator, with the stated mission to "make an earnest effort to bring to the discussion of political and social questions a really critical spirit, and to wage war upon the vices of violence, exaggeration, and misrepresentation by which so much of the political writing of the day is marred". It is published by The Nation Company, L.P., at 33 Irving Place, New York City. and associated with The Nation Institute.

You were saying, faggot?

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Dems savagely BTFO by truth

Actually, to add to it. There might be an alternative explanation. Yesterday or the day before MSNBC had a few segments about trust in the media, as done by some researcher, and MSNBC was shown to be one of the sources on the negative trust side. Ari Melber, one of the anchors for a show, even put up a graph showing it, which surprised me that they would do, but maybe it means they got spooked and realized they need to reign themselves in, as they were keeping company with places like breitbart, foxnews, and alex jones.

All I'm trying to say is that regardless of what you think of all of this, there's clearly an effort to step back.

I think the problem is that everyone here already knew or strongly suspected (his name was Seth Rich), so it's kind of old news. But good stuff to show normies.

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