Woman fights to change the law after being told man who put camera up her skirt did nothing wrong

>Woman fights to change the law after being told man who put camera up her skirt did nothing wrong

>When a man took a picture up Gina Martin's skirt when she was enjoying herself at a festival, she was sure he could be punished.

>However, after being told he did nothing illegal, she has taken things into her own hands and started a campaign which has reverberated across the country - to make 'upskirting' a specific offence under the law.

>'Upskirting' is the term for when people put cameras under unsuspecting women's skirts and take a picture of their crotch, usually just before the woman notices what has happened.

>On the 8th July 2017, this happened to Ms Martin, who was at the British Summertime Festival.

>After seeing the man standing in front of her had an image of a woman’s bare legs and crotch on his phone screen, she realised it was of her.

>She thought quickly and grabbed the phone, giving it to the festival staff, who called the police.

>The police arrived and asked the man to delete the photo. However, five days later, Ms Martin was told the case was closed as the police said the man hadn't broken any laws.

>Ms Martin, a 25-year-old writer from London, started a petition to change this.

>The campaign to make upskirt photos illegal under the Sexual Offences Act of 2003 has been signed by more than 53,000 people.

telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/09/woman-fights-upskirting-sexual-offense-told-men-put-camera-skirt/

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Have men gone too far this time?

How do we protect women from camera-wielding perverts (men)?

Other urls found in this thread:

bbc.com/news/av/magazine-40861878/woman-s-hour-looks-at-the-increase-of-upskirt-photography-without-consent
dnainfo.com/new-york/20160414/union-square/season-of-upskirt-photo-taking-is-upon-us-officials-warn
wtop.com/local/2017/08/md-teen-charged-sexual-abuse-metro-upskirt-case/
boston.cbslocal.com/2017/08/04/yarmouth-upskirt-arrest-david-wong/
tnp.sg/news/singapore/cook-jailed-taking-upskirt-mrt-escalator
straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/man-jailed-for-two-weeks-for-taking-upskirt-video-at-kinokuniya
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4740164/pervert-pretended-pick-Weet-Bix-upskirt-schoolgirl.html
mothership.sg/2017/07/man-caught-on-video-taking-upskirt-video-of-commuter-on-circle-line-mrt/
rt.com/usa/339771-newyork-upskirters-warning-da/
tnp.sg/news/singapore/teacher-i-was-upskirt-victim-my-students
thestandard.com.hk/section-news.php?id=177270
losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/03/22/police-seek-dozens-of-upskirt-victims-in-inland-empire/
cbs58.com/story/35071495/milwaukee-man-will-have-to-pay-fine-for-taking-upskirt-pictures
straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/man-nabbed-in-malaysia-for-taking-upskirt-video-with-shoe-camera
komonews.com/news/local/sea-tac-tsa-agent-pleads-guilty-to-upskirt-voyeurism-charge
newsshopper.co.uk/news/15187229.Greenwich__TubePerve__who_filmed_over_100_upskirt_shots_on_London_Underground_spared_jail/
straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/man-jailed-for-upskirt-videos-and-photos-taken-at-overhead-bridge-near-his
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

Here is an interview with Gina Martin as she talks about her ordeal.

>Woman's Hour looks at the increase of upskirt photography without consent
bbc.com/news/av/magazine-40861878/woman-s-hour-looks-at-the-increase-of-upskirt-photography-without-consent

Special "no photograph zones" around females? What other rights over men can we give them?

Oh good, we need more laws which women can use to falsely accuse men of stuff.

It's kind a hard to fake somebody putting a camera up your skirt. Are you really that stupid?

>How do we protect women from camera-wielding perverts (men)?

They could just wear longer skirts...

>be in relationship
>girl uses boyfriends phone to take upskirt photo
>relationship breaks down
>"HE TOOK AN UPSKIRT PHOTO!"
>guy can't prove he didn't take photo

You were saying?

Stupid fucking cunt had no right to steal that poor man's cell phone.

>They could just wear longer skirts...

Or we could teach our sons, nephews, and little brothers that it's not OK to harass women and stick cameras up their skirts or on their butts...

it's kinda hard to fake someone putting a dick in your vagina

It's kind of hard to fake having a dick rammed forcefully into your pussy against your will, but that's never stopped them. Fucking simp.

Fuck it let's just give them complete power over men in every aspect of their lives. It just makes sense right?

Cuck

>Oh good, we need more laws which women can use to falsely accuse men of stuff.

Oh, I guess we should have any laws at all then, because people can use them to falsely accuse men of stuff.

whare are you, gay?

I agree with her. The guy has access to porn and a pair of eyes.

That's just an intrusive fetish (not very hardcore one). Slap some community service on that.

I'm guessing you're one of those "false rape accusations are a myth" types, huh?

I remember reading about this happening with a kid. I don't like the idea of making new laws for every situation that occurs, but this does seem like something that could be included under voyeurism laws.

If something is in public you can look as much as you like, but if you have to search for the right angle so you can see something you wouldn't normally see, then it isn't public. There is a reasonable expectation of privacy for what is under clothes.

Taking pictures in public is not an offense.

Women technically make their panties visible by wearing a skirt in public, if an event would happen to expose the underside of her skirt.

Since her skirt and panties exist in public, and there is a straight line of sight from the underside of her skirt to her panties, upskirt shots are technically fair game.

If she wanted to prevent her panties from being seen, she should wear pants or leggings that completely envelop her panties.

That see through dress is degenerate for starters.

Need I remind you that "upskirting" is turning into an epidemic?

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>The Season of 'Upskirt' Photo-Taking Is Upon Us, Officials Warn
dnainfo.com/new-york/20160414/union-square/season-of-upskirt-photo-taking-is-upon-us-officials-warn

>Md. teen charged with sexual abuse in Metro ‘upskirt’ case; potentially dozens more victims
wtop.com/local/2017/08/md-teen-charged-sexual-abuse-metro-upskirt-case/

>Man Charged With Recording Upskirt Videos In Yarmouth
boston.cbslocal.com/2017/08/04/yarmouth-upskirt-arrest-david-wong/

>Cook jailed for taking upskirt on MRT escalator
tnp.sg/news/singapore/cook-jailed-taking-upskirt-mrt-escalator

>Man jailed for two weeks for taking upskirt video at Kinokuniya
straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/man-jailed-for-two-weeks-for-taking-upskirt-video-at-kinokuniya

>Pervert caught on CCTV pretending to pick up a box of Weet-Bix so he can take a photo up the skirt of a 14-year-old schoolgirl
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4740164/pervert-pretended-pick-Weet-Bix-upskirt-schoolgirl.html

>Man caught on video taking upskirt video of commuter on Circle Line MRT
mothership.sg/2017/07/man-caught-on-video-taking-upskirt-video-of-commuter-on-circle-line-mrt/

S-Serious B-business

Whore. Close your legs, you stink.

>If she wanted to prevent her panties from being seen, she should wear pants or leggings that completely envelop her panties.

Victim-blaming.

I guess if you don't want to get mugged, you should just never carry money.

I guess if you don't want your home to get burglarized, you shouldn't never own a home.

>Woman doesn't actually care about the law
>Wants revenge
>Is ignorant of ex post facto laws
Part of me hopes she succeeds simply so she will find out that the guy who took the photos won't get in trouble.

BBBRRAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPP

*flies buzzing*

BBBRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPP

>If she wanted to prevent her panties from being seen, she should wear pants or leggings that completely envelop her panties.

That's Saudi Arabian tier logic

99.99999999% of women and girls never wear skirts anymore, instead its boy jeans and shorts, how is this a problem in 2017?

This shit better get thrown out, and the judge better tell her to stop making it easy for perverts and to dress like a respectable human being rather than a shameless whore.

>how is this a problem in 2017

>Upskirt season: Warnings issues over creepy cameras as springtime hits the Big Apple
rt.com/usa/339771-newyork-upskirters-warning-da/

>Teacher: I was an upskirt victim of my students
tnp.sg/news/singapore/teacher-i-was-upskirt-victim-my-students

>IT technician found with millions of upskirt pics
thestandard.com.hk/section-news.php?id=177270

>Police Seek Dozens Of Upskirt Cellphone Video Victims In Inland Empire
losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/03/22/police-seek-dozens-of-upskirt-victims-in-inland-empire/

>Milwaukee Man Will Have to Pay Fine for Taking Upskirt Pictures
cbs58.com/story/35071495/milwaukee-man-will-have-to-pay-fine-for-taking-upskirt-pictures

>Man nabbed in Malaysia for taking upskirt video with 'shoe camera'
straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/man-nabbed-in-malaysia-for-taking-upskirt-video-with-shoe-camera

>Former Sea-Tac TSA agent pleads guilty to 'upskirt' voyeurism charge
komonews.com/news/local/sea-tac-tsa-agent-pleads-guilty-to-upskirt-voyeurism-charge

>Greenwich 'TubePerve' who filmed over 100 upskirt shots on London Underground spared jail
newsshopper.co.uk/news/15187229.Greenwich__TubePerve__who_filmed_over_100_upskirt_shots_on_London_Underground_spared_jail/

>Man jailed for upskirt videos and photos taken at overhead bridge near his Tampines home
straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/man-jailed-for-upskirt-videos-and-photos-taken-at-overhead-bridge-near-his

And your point is?

Came here to post this. Don't dress like a slut

>skirts

I live in Los Angeles and every woman wears a romper now. They're kind of hot in a way, but the realization that there's no way you're going to catch an upskirt is a buzzkill.

And this, gentlemen, is why big government is bad.

Nah that is just logic. If I do not want people looking through my windoe then I close the blinds.

>And your point is?

Women need to be protected from creepers.

This could of been your mom/aunt/sister/daughter/cousin/wife/girlfriend/neighbor/best-friend being creeped on by some creepy creeper making a creep vid.

And your point is?

>most of the links are stories outside the US.

>1 from inland empire

>police seek victims wearing skirts

>police still unsure they don't wear skirts or if they do wear skirts in 2017, hmm....

nobody wears skirts bro, this issue is beyond laughable.

Your attitude wouldn't be so apathetic and nonchalant if your daughter came home, tears streaming down her face, and when you ask her what's wrong, she yells you she caught some pervert filming her.

i dont know who made her dress like that, but he should be in jail, thats horrible

believe it or not, there are self defence classes that give you better control over whether or not you're being mugged

Also, security systems, dogs, fences

>can't own knife
>can't have mean thoughts about Muslims
>CAN upskirt film a woman's cunt
>CAN kill a girl and put her in kebab
Has this whole UK thing gone on for a little too long?

And your point is?

I know a lot of people who wear skirts.
They're not mini skirts though

I'd happily beat his ass for that, but I wouldn't want the police to step in and shove their fucking noses in it.

Take some personal responsibility and stop relying on government regulation to stop every goddamn thing.

>nobody actually watched the webm
This wasn't an up skirt. She was just wearing a whorish dress that was see through. Serves this whore right

i love that see through lacey shit

>I guess if you don't want to get mugged, you should just never carry money.
That won't stop you getting mugged, but it will stop anybody being able to steal your money. Simple logical fact.
>I guess if you don't want your home to get burglarized, you shouldn't never own a home.
Correct. Simple logical fact.
>If she wanted to prevent her panties from being seen, she should wear pants or leggings that completely envelop her panties.
Simple logical fact.

>Take some personal responsibility and stop relying on government regulation to stop every goddamn thing.

Take some personal responsibility. Stop trying to get the government to curb immigration because "They're taking our jobs!". Instead, take some personal responsibility, update your skills and job training, so you can out-compete those "dirty browns" and secure jobs without the help of Trump.

i would call a family meeting and stone her to death for bringing shame upon the family.

>out-compete those "dirty browns"
Now I see what your points is: you're a retard.

If by out-compete you mean shoot them en-mass as they try to illegally enter, then yes.

It's not illegal to film in public, she can collect votes all she wants but the government would have to violate fundamental rights.

AFAIK nobody did an upskirting to me or to every other user in this bread and in every other thread you've opened. I think all these creepshots are false flags filmed by females themselves

No expectation of privacy in a public place.
Maybe you don't want outskirts wear some petticoats.

Noone in in my family or circles of friends nor my girl friend dresses like a degenerate.

The only time I'd let my wife wear that (or anything along those lines) would be in private.

>It's not illegal to film in public, she can collect votes all she wants but the government would have to violate fundamental rights.
>the governmen
>violate fundamental rights

Well, this is the UK we're talking about...

If women don't want to be filmed or photographed, they can stop wearing sexy see through clothing. Women can't stand if some ugly guy photographs them.

>Stop trying to get the government to curb immigration

Stop trying to put illigal aliens in the same group as actual immigrants you fuck wit moron. Go read a god damn dictionary.

Should have been classed as voyeurism laws or harassment.

However the dumb slut roastie's "I was sobbing my eyes out" "literally shaking", "scared for days" attention seeking bollocks = she can fuck off.

In the end the guy got a flash of her panties, she probably shows more on facebook.

As long as humans continue to exist there will always be natural evils be it the weakness of a man's hearts or the environment around him. To absolve yourself of the responsibility of your own safety and place it onto others you neither know or trust is nothing short of mental illness.

An apt analogy would be, if you want your home more secured, lock the door.

>be liberal woman
>wear revealing clothes in public
>bitch and moan when someone looks at you or takes a picture

>Creeps at /gif/ are mad

serves those degenerates right

Women need to stop dress like whores and return to Christ.

I missed this thread great to have you back

dressing*

Wait, why exactly is it not allowed to take pictures in public, when everyone is spied on 24/7 and recorded in full video anyway?

>She

>Creep takes an upskirt photo of woman
>Gets a picture of a balls

Traps will put an end to this epidemic

we are closer to teaching our sons, nephews and little brothers, that it's OK to wear skirts.

Wear panties.
Problem solved.

>run around half naked with your pussy hanging out
>mad when someone can see it
>rather than dress conservatively, demand special treatment laws
Women logic.

This is exactly why her efforts will end up fruitless, I think the angle she is trying to push it is that it is implied sexual harassment.

>I guess if you don't want to get mugged, you should just never carry money.
More like don't go into bad areas and don't flaunt or even give a hint that you have money. When someone goes into the hood and gets their watch and wallet stolen by a nigger, I don't just blame the thief, I also blame the victim for being a fucking idiot and putting himself in a dumb situation. "Victimization" is not an excuse for dumb decision making, only an excuse to punish someone else.

>they try to illegally enter

This isn't just about those "dirty illegals". This is also about H-1B visa workers. You (white conservatives) have been complaining very loudly about them for years because you don't want to compete with them. You feel that as a American white male, it's your birthright to given consideration first for American jobs and only when no white man wants the jobs, then "dirty browns" can be considered for the positions.

Just nuke white women

Read the article, she did wear panties.

The only thing he got was a flash of her panties in the picture, even the police admitted you couldn't really see anything.

Sure he was a dumb arsehole for literally shoving a camera under her skirt and taking a pic (if her account is even true).

However her reaction was way overboard. It's like the bikini, no problem! Underwear, omg! pics. She probably shows a LOT more on facebook no problem.

Yes I wouldn't want some random dude shoving a camera up my daughter's skirt without getting prosecuted under voyeurism or harassment laws, (but then again my daughter wouldn't be in a degenerate miniskirt anyway..) but still, the reaction has to be proportional.

"I was sobbing my eyes out, I couldn't dance, I was stood there scared" (after she'd already got away from him, after stealing his phone..).

Law loophole, should be sorted, but no need for overboard attention seeking reaction.

hnnnng.
came in for the bland upskirt, got diamonds for that side boob.

>men shoulder
>flat ass
Ewww

>it's not OK to harrass women
It's also not OK to be such a spineless little faggot, yet you're still here.

I feel defended after watching that

literally kys

God you're an idiot. They don't care about who's capable. They care about halving to pay them less while at the same time filling their diversity quotas.

>I guess if you don't want to get mugged, you should just never carry money.

How nieve are liberals? You bitch about guns then go off and say stupid shit like this.

>>Yes I wouldn't want some random dude shoving a camera up my daughter's skirt without getting prosecuted under voyeurism or harassment laws
Why? You accept it every time you pass in front of a government building that has external scanners, or when you enter one (or a bank, or when you fly).

>letting a person grab your belongings
>not decking the thief as soon as the theft happens
>letting someone else handle your property

post tits, you gash

Pretty much this...

>I have my ass out in public
>dont look at it or you'll be jailed

Good luck getting that through congress

I was expecting a lot more ass when I came into this thread, but upskirt shots is invasion

If I didn't want to get mugged I wouldn't walk into some shithole area.
If I didn't want to get burgled I would lock my doors and windows.
I thought you might be a baiter, but I think you really are some brain dead liberal. They're the only people who make such ridiculous claims to the extent you have and trolls struggle to pick up on them properly. It's like when an adult tries to write in childish handwriting, they can't quite pull it off because it's too forced. When a child does it it looks completely naturally, just like you and your far end spectrum examples.

>If you don't want to get a migraine just chop your head off
>If you don't like being cold just set yourself on fire

Etc etc etc.

>sticking a camera up a skirt is the same as taking a photo

at least we can take solace that trumpcucks like you cant get hard to fuck women and spread your inferior genes

>when you ask her what's wrong, she yells you she caught some pervert filming her.

... and then you added it to your private collection of fap webm that you keep organized by filename and always at hand for these threads?

I'm not even mad. I'm kind of impress Sup Forums is too autismo to realize you're some sort of fetishist who gets off on this, yet you still manage to trawl 300 (you)s from it every time you do it. Many such cases.

>For centuries men have made women wear long skirts for modesty.
>Modern era comes along with all kinds of new ways to make the modest immodest.
>Instead of wearing trousers whores decide to wear even shorter skirts.
If you wear a short skirt then you should expect whatever slutty underwear you've got on to be in the public domain. Modesty is a choice that is based on the items you wear.

>Women taking responsibility for their actions.

Why do we hate shitskins and Islam, again?

>If I didn't want to get mugged I wouldn't walk into some shithole area.
>If I didn't want to get burgled I would lock my doors and windows.

t. Liverpool

>Or we could teach our sons, nephews, and little brothers that it's not OK to harass women and stick cameras up their skirts or on their butts...

Found the roastie.

Her cleavage is still too deep. And that loose hair is absolutely haram. Pic related is acceptable.