Why arnt american prisons like Norway or Sweden prison

>Treat prisoners like people not animals = little to no crime

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Niggers

This

Because we have mostly niggers in our jails, and everything in that photo would be used by a nigger as a weapon.

Niggers, dummy. Niggers.

You'll learn, you're purposely importing them. Your prisons will be like ours within a decade.

/thre

>be Sweden
>import Niggers
>get US/third world crime rate, despite having nice prisons
Really makes you think.

Came here to post this.
Norway's prison system only works like that because they barely have any nigger.

Nicer than my apartment desu

Well this works with white people.

basically

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It works in a high-trust society, which is only possible in a white majority country.

People will demand harsher punishments once the Muslims start doing shit on a weekly basis.

Genuine attempts to rehabilitate people costs money and in the necon hell they live in the idea of that is too much. It also offends those idiots that think it should be all about punishment.

Thats how those prisons looked a few years ago. They have been enriched now, and they will be heading the way of US prisons.

They're learning
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>why don't we stuff all of the rabid nigger and spics across the country into luxury neet compounds with high speed internet and catered food and art classes every time they commit a crime
geee I dunno lol

>have luxury hotel prisons
>more crime because people aren't afraid of going to prison, it's just like going on vacation
>poor people commit crimes just so they can get in prison

>>Treat prisoners like people not animals = little to no crime

It's only feasible when all or close to all of your population are people and not animals.
Hence why it wouldn't work in America...and why it won't work for much longer in Sweden.

Let's archive that unvis.it/motherjones.com/crime-justice/2017/07/north-dakota-norway-prisons-experiment

>Don't arrest dindus/mudslimes cause dat rayciss
Wow, low crime statistics.

Varg talked about his 20 or so years in prison.

Being isolated for so many years isn't all that healthy.

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A prison is not supposed to be a 3 star hotel sperg. All that luxury is paid by tax payers. Too much money gets wasted. Prisoners should pay for that themselves.

>Treat prisoners like people not animals = little to no crime

Then how the fuck do they end up in prison?

This is a retarded argument. Prisoners, by definition, have committed crimes. So by treating them well AFTER they committed a crime, we somehow go back in time and prevent the original crime?

It saves a lot of money in the long run since only 20% of the people go back to their old ways.

The remaining people get jobs and pay taxes back into the system

UK prisons have a pretty vile reputation too.

Negros already consider prisons as they are right now as an opportunity for family reunion and a way to build street cred and drug contacts. Negros already treat five years at state prison as basically a form of college. Imagine how less of a deterrent they'd be if the prisons were actually half decent places to live. Negros would start commiting crimes en masse to get into these three star hotel """"prisons""""".

Man Scandinavians are still the most naive people in the world even the somewhat more redpilled ones that end up on Sup Forums...

Once they hit the "nigger sweet spot" their prisons will look American or Latin American.

Subsaharan African are uncivilized. The police state will have to step in to stop them from tearing everything apart.

Because prisons are supposed to be prisons. A depressing place with harsh conditions where people do not want to end up in.
Also

>So by treating them well AFTER they committed a crime, we somehow go back in time and prevent the original crime?

Of course not, but by reforming criminals and helping them reenter society you prevent future crimes commited by the same troubled people. In the US if a nigger steals a car he's thrown into a gang filled prison for a couple of months with no change to his life whatsoever when he comes out, he commits another crime because what the fuck else is he going to do. And then another, and another, until he's in for life and spends the rest of his days sucking tax payer money.

Scandinavian prisons provide ways to make criminals, mostly petty ones, be useful members of society. They commit one crime, serve a couple of months, get an education and any rehab they might require, get out and get a job, becoming future tax payers.

The biggest red pill is realizing you've been in a Swedish prison most of your life

immigration will change their views on these prisons within 5 years.

>you prevent future crimes commited by the same troubled people
A bullet in the head does it more efficiently, and is way cheaper.

Niggers and spics

Tax payer money gets wasted on criminals to have luxury in their prison cells. So they get rewarded for their crimes. That's not how a prison is supposed to work.

People are in prison to be punished for violating the law.

There's no guarantee that they become peaceful contributors to society after being in prison.

They should only get some support to better their lives, but the stuff they have in prison beyond the minimum (food, water, heating) should be paid by themselves. How? Let them work in prison, behave well for X Months to get something.

Beggars in the streets don't get 3 star hotel rooms for nothing either. So criminals shouldn't be treated any different than a beggar who didn't commit any crime.

We import Africans and they generally use American niggers as an example of the absolute worst in humanity. Most Africans view American niggers as complete degenerates.

If a black kid does well in school here they get praise from their parents, it's not like in America where they get made fun of.

>Subsaharan African are uncivilized.

To a certain degree yes, but not as uncivilized as in American "hoods" and "projects".

>A bullet in the head does it more efficiently, and is way cheaper.

Doubt that, maybe for serial murders, child rapists and the like. But for petty criminals if you pay a little to reform them, you get people paying tax for the rest of their lives, if you just kill them on the spot, sure you save money on not having to rehabilitate them, but you also lose 40 years of tax.

No WONDER muslims go there!

You have it backwards my friend. Because there is so little crime, you can afford to make your prisons more comfortable for your typically law-abiding population.

Imagine if our current prison system improved conditions to the point where it wasn't a federal sentence to rape-internment camp. We already have institutionalized individuals who thrive in the federal corrections system, making it nicer wouldn't help that issue.

Our prisons should not be rape-internment camps, but improving their conditions would not lower the crime rate.

you break the law you get executed we arent pussies like europeans

This. You can't expect savages to be rehabilitated in a system build on empathy and shaming for correcting behavior.

I'm for bringing back corporal punishment and hard labor in prisons. Make them take big rocks, and make little ones. Put their useless asses to work. The "rehabilitation" model of prison has failed, especially with niggers, who see prison as simply a vacation to eat better, get free health care, build muscles, and become better criminals.
The point of jail is to make it so fucking horrible, you won't do shit to end up there. Niggers have no fear of prison - therefore, we may as well shut them down, because they serve no positive use for our country.
Used to be, people would rather die than go to prison. Now? They live better in prison, than they do on the outside. There is NO downside for a nigger for going to prison.

>There's no guarantee that they become peaceful contributors to society after being in prison.

Guarantee? No, but statistically society gets better result from reforming criminals rather than treating them like shit and making them drain resources for the rest of their life.

>Beggars in the streets don't get 3 star hotel rooms for nothing either. So criminals shouldn't be treated any different than a beggar who didn't commit any crime.

We don't have beggars in Scandinavia either (Not native ones at least), they get all the help criminals also get courtesy of the government, if you're homeless in Sweden it's by choice.

In the end the small investment into fixing them pays off over the years.

Lol.. This is dumb as fuck, who's paying for it?

>Of course not, but by reforming criminals and helping them reenter society you prevent future crimes commited by the same troubled people.
Laughably been proven to not work. You have no stats or studies to prove that, because the reality is completely opposite, and you're talking out of your ass.

> spics and niggers
> taxes
It's the US we're talking about, not Sweden.

Pretty much. Niggers are a kind of people that understand only fear. If you treat them well, they're just going to get worse.

Saying that, I still think that prisons are a disgusting idea. Mutilation and humiliation like in the old ways is a far better way to deal with criminals

fpbp

If prison was like that in England then a lot of people would commit crime just to get put inside, to escape their current situation. Myself included.

if your job involves a computer you could technically work from prison, prison is a punishment in the sense that you are not allowed to be free to do what you want in society

Don't fool yourself nog lover.
African niggers are even worse than burger niggers.
I recommend you to travel there and see for yourself how shit they're.

A human's worth measured in possible tax payout is exactly what I expect from a Communist retard.

What are you talking about, look at any stats about reoffending rates between scandinavian prisons and others, for example the US.

Are the results usually exaggerated a bit in the media etc, perhaps.

But it does work.

It only when we had a homogenous population of Swedish people living here. It does not longer work because we have let ourselves be invaded by sand-niggers who cannot be "rehabilitated" or integrated into our society. The USA has a lot of niggers / spics etc etc and because they lack a homogenous population they must enforce stricter rules.

You have to keep in mind that even if Scandinavian prisons seem luxurious, they're still usually shittier than the average living outside of prison, any help you get in prisons you can also get outside.

So no one really commits a crime thinking they're going to get a better life as a result.

The problem with punishing niggers with prison is they lack the capacity to conceptualize time.

They literally have difficulty processing what the 'past' and the 'future' are. So you can see how prison isn't too bad for them, they only live in the present.

What we need to do are bring back lashes as a punishment. Steal a car? 100 lashes. Shit like that.

African niggers are dumber, American niggers are more violent. And entitled.

The United States has the most costly legal system per capita. Prisons are cheaper, more effective, and more humane in other countries.

Because prison is to serve the non criminal citizens, not designed for the criminals, you spineless feminine faggot

THANK YOU. So many Europeans pass judgement on the US while forgetting that blacks and latinos inflate our crime rates and lower our average academic scoring. If the US was all white, we would actually look a lot like a white European country in terms of crime, education, poverty, etc.

Maybe because our niggers continuously commit crimes. You Canadians and Europeans don't have the amount of niggers we do. It's fucking hell.

America unfortunately has the highest prison population in the world.

America's problem is that generally the prison sentences are too high so they stay in prisons for much longer than other countries for the same. This costs tax payers too much money.

Your poor continuously commit crimes, like everywhere else. The race-crime relationship has been tested and found out to be insignificant.

99% white countries, "WHY CAN'T THE USA JUST DO THINGS THE WAY WE DO
STUPID AMERIFATS"

No. Race correlates far better with crime than economics and it isn't close

according to varg, these modern Norwegian prisons are considered a worse option for many than the old communal prisons because of they are designed to intensify isolation and more people kill themselves because its more intense psychologically

Wow, what a shock, a country with a predominantly German population has a lower crime rate than a country filled with niggers and spics. I never would have guessed.

I'd like a source on that because I was under the impression economics correlates better than race.

>according to varg

Underrated

Do they get internet? It looks like NEET paradise, I'm suprised more aren't breviking to reach it.

The vast majority of criminals are still in communal-style prisons, a couple of them are basically self-sustaining communities.

Only violent criminals are kept fully isolated, like Breivik.

Bullshit. The poorest places in the United States are white and barely any crime is committed there.

You're not factoring in niggers and spics. You'll learn soon enough.

I hope you're just leafposting. This is entry level redpill.

Depends on the prison, if you're in for very petty crimes there's usually an open library with internet (Although blocked websites obviously), or their room computers might have a local network with some options.

If you're in isolation, no, you either get nothing or a computer with microsoft word.

Nobody hires ex-felons because there are plenty of illegal immigrants to do those jobs for even less money with less risk of criminal tendancy for the employer.

See you are making your argument from within a bubble but reality is very different.

Prisoners should be treated like dogshit and forced to live in squalor. Price to pay for being a criminal scumbag. You Nords can't do ANYTHING right, fuck you

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Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

Honestly those long sentences would be a net positive if we took rehabilitation seriously.

saved but why the fuck is it missing the source of the info??

That is factually untrue.

No it hasn't. Quite the opposite.
Stupid dumb leaf scum, too much maple syrup on the brain.

if you only get sent to a pretty nice place where you can work out and meditate and read and really enjoy life, then why not be a criminal? you have nothing to lose. I want to move to these pussy countries and grow/sell cannabis.

You can make unsourced image macros say anything. Show me the research.

How do you know your redpill isn't a bluepill with red coating? It's comforting to think of the world in simple terms.

>See you are making your argument from within a bubble but reality is very different.

Your "reality" is not 'THE' reality, I did not specifically talk about just the US.

I could argue you're in as much of a bubble as I am because our countries are so vastly different.

What are you waiting for? You sound like a nigger so you'd be welcomed with open arms

Sweden is a fucking bubble of delusion, you have laws preventing data collection on rapes so people won't know that migrants are raping all your women. You're living in a complete illusion.

Just fucking awash in consumerism. Disgusting.

cannabis is now a symbol of white supremacy, ahmad.

Wouldn't a nice prison encourage people to commit crimes?

Most people aspire to accomplish something more with their life.

You can't get a wife, kids and your own home if you live in prison.

Where are your sources then leaf? Educate someone if you can.

Burger niggers seem much worse. If I see a gang of African niggers coming towards me then they are generally a polite gang of young men. There are other ethnic groups here that are more troublesome and violent (the Vietnamese for example)

I want to live there, looks better than my house and I have 3 meal a day.
Full NEET with no worries

>The Color of Crime 2005
>AMREN

I meant an unbiased academic source, not an organization set to push a certain narrative.

So criminals don't have wives, kids, own homes?

>I could argue you're in as much of a bubble as I am because our countries are so vastly different.

Well there you go. This is one of those facts of life a lot of morons / lefties / cucks don't seem to comprehend. Not all nations and cultures can function under the same conditions. This is why Bernie Sanders was such a moron for wanting to implement Nordic style socialism in the Burgers. It works in Nordic nations because it's a mostly homogeneous population with a sense of collective well-doing. America doesn't have that. One, our population is too big. Two, it's full of too many worthless leeches and illegals who dodge on paying into the system.

I'm personally not against rehabilitation as a prison method. But it won't work in America. Our lower class races are incapable of being rehabilitated.

Let's all move to sweden and be criminals and live the fun fast goodlife then the NEET life if caught.

>if you only get sent to a pretty nice place where you can work out and meditate and read and really enjoy life, then why not be a criminal? you have nothing to lose.

Because it's still prison, you're not free.

You can't go out drinking with friends, you can't go out a see a new movie, you can't read a newly release book, you can't go out for a drive, you can't go travel to a warm beach in Italy, you can't go on a date with your GF, you can't walk your kids to school.

Maybe to some NEETs a prison cell with a computer sounds like heaven but it isn't very appealing to normal, functioning members of society.

People don't want to be locked up in the same building for years, people dno't commit crimes as some sort of vacation here.