Are arab nations so shitty today because of Islam or in spite of it?
Sup Forums typically advocates for conservative values, women who aren't degenerate, masculine ideals. The meekness and feminization of the west are criticized all the time on here. Islamic nations fear and address these very problems, but they're also the shitholes of the world.
So would the middle east have been worse off with Christianity or even atheism, or is there something inherent to Islam that's bad for societies?
It's really just because of conflict between Iran and Saudi Arabia, if they didn't exist we would all be better off. Plus, the Islamic Golden age was pretty cool, Algebra was invented, optics was highly advanced, and more.
Sebastian Anderson
In spite of it. They are deep down nasty people and always have been. Iran didn't get bleached enough to not devolve into absolute regressive savagery.
Brayden Harris
You really think the people are that distinct from their religion? The middle east without Islam is a hard thing to even imagine.
Nolan Foster
fuck i cant get enough on this stupid meme
Joshua Hughes
The "Islamic" golden age existed in spite of Islam, not because of it. It's a disgusting ideology that detests all sciences.
Christian Davis
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Chase Howard
This is a perversion. The kind that would not be tolerated in an Islamic nation.
Jonathan Edwards
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Jackson Lewis
this sucks. (((you ))) just ruined this meme. rip, my beautiful chad.
Jacob Hughes
More like these?
Henry Gomez
Islam is fucking retarded and you're fucking retarded
Brayden Williams
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Joseph Morgan
This too. Arab nations blast their prayers on loudspeakers for all to hear. Absolutely the Chad religion of the two.
Bentley King
>kikes made a new version because they saw the chad messiah lmao
Luis Hill
OP's not wrong tho. Jesus was a little betaboi compared to Mohammed
Kayden Morris
>Islamic nations fear and address these very problems, but they're also the shitholes of the world.
You just answered your own fucking question retard. If you treat people brutally you will live in a brutal shit hole. It's all about balance.
Noah Lewis
Mate Mohammed was alpha as fuck Jesus was kind of like an ancient Justin trudaeu
Adam Carter
It doesnt really have anything to do with Islam. It's a variety of factors like bad infrastructure, education and not the least of which is Western intervention
Connor Flores
Brown people are just a bunch of inbreeding retards.
Samuel Stewart
>Jesus was kind of like an ancient Justin trudaeu Holy fuck
Lucas Watson
And look where that got him. Dead. His descendants did all the interesting stuff all he did was conquer Mecca and die.
David Watson
>If you kill your enemies they win >But I tell you not to resist an evil person. If someone slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also;
Ryder Phillips
LOOK AT THIS FUCKING FAGGOT
Blake Martinez
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Austin Bell
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Leo Bell
DEUS VULT
Andrew Taylor
The middle east was still wealthier than Europe until about 1200. The region was demolished by;
>the Mongols in 1200's > then again by Tamerlane in 1400's I mean like 70-90% depopulated each time >Silk road died out in 1500's so no more trade routes which killed Islamic economies >Afghans destroy Persia in 1600's all cities depopulate again >Nader Shahs wars in 1700's destroy eastern ottoman empire and Persia trying to reunite Persia >Qajar dynasty and Ottoman dynasty are utterly incompetent and play things for European powers in 1800's onwards largely because of the technological disparity which has developed plus the trade routes have been destroyed and Western Europeans own the sea routes.
t. Read history
Jack Price
U mad
Blake Ortiz
This is the same guy who went berserk in the Jerusalem temple and literally started whipping people.
And making a whip of cords, he drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and oxen. And he poured out the coins of the money-changers and overturned their tables. And he told those who sold the pigeons, "Take these things away; do not make my Father's house a house of trade."[Jn 2:13–16]
>b-b-b-but Christianity is a pacifist religion
"And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves."
—Matthew 21:12–13
Michael Cruz
It's because of inbreeding. It lowers IQ and makes everyone retard savages.
Nicholas Smith
>muh interventionism
and you call yourself "fascist"
Joseph Phillips
>inbreeding >in ME Nice meme
William Adams
It would've been better. Cradle of civilization, all the greatest empires back before islam existed. Now the region is a complete joke
Noah Price
You forgot about that time he totally BTFO that fig tree
William Ross
I hate islam but muhammad was pretty alpha compared to jesus, this pic is trying too hard
Jaxon Barnes
This is a meme. That meme study you see posted here pertains to 1-6% of the population which you would know if you read the study. These are backwater villages. Europe is far more inbred. From a far narrower gene pool. Hence the pasty skin and white hair.
Ryan Smith
>>muh interventionism Fascism is against interventionism dumbass. And it's true that countrie like Iraq, Iran, Lybia etc were way better amd richer before Western interventions
Isaiah Thomas
This is just proof that he was some retarded anarcho-communist. Literally just an autistic fit at commerce and finance.
Kind of similar to the violent ushering in of an authoritarian socialist state before a moneyless, stateless and classless society.
Samuel Lee
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Julian Gutierrez
See There's a lot of history to explain why the middle east fell behind. If it was Islam then the middle east would've have been better than Europe until 1200
Parker Murphy
>t. buttmad muhammeds
>In populations of North Africa, West Asia and South India, consanguineous marriages are culturally and socially favoured and constitute 20–50% of all marriages [Fig. 1], with first cousins unions accounting for almost one-third of all marriages (Bittles 2011; Tadmouri et al. 2009). ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3419292/
Samuel Reed
It's true cousin marriages are extremely common in the Middle East. Sorry that get your feelings ahmed but the truth hurts
Alexander Martinez
>Fascism is against interventionism dumbass.
>Ethiopian war >All of WW2
yeahhhh Fascism doesn't believe in martial virtue or any of that shit right? it's basically libertarianism right?
Josiah Smith
Kek. This is one of the best ones I've seen.
Christendom wasn't always as bad as it's become in modern churches. But today it's a rare Christian who isn't also promoting homosexuality and "acceptance".
Xavier Thomas
You have no idea how wrong you are
Eli Hernandez
Then why didn't China become the seat of world preeminence? They never suffered such calamities.
Kevin Sanchez
Islam promotes inbreeding which results in low IQ, high birth defects and high infant mortality
Eli Cook
"Render unto Caesar's that which is Caesar's." >so anti government
"If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, regard him as you would a pagan or a tax collector."
>so anti authority >such pacifism
Lucas Nelson
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Nathan Perez
Arabs, Hispanics, Africans et al are savages. Islam or other religions don't MAKE them savage. Islam only provides a framework in which they commit savagery in modern times. But with that said, only savages are attracted to Islam.
Sebastian Russell
>Italy >a good example of fascism martial virtue=/=interventionism
Josiah James
someone pls post chad/virgin white nationalist
Kayden Cooper
>cousin marriages are extremely common in the Middle East. Fitst cousin marriages really arent common at all
Brody Ross
I got you
John Gray
>martial virtue=/=interventionism
>War in Ethiopia was not intervening in another nations politics
rrrrrrrrrrrrreallly makes ya think
Luis Moore
The fig tree never happened. This entire scene is based on Hosea 9, and refers to the destruction of Israel.
Brody Martinez
ty bro
Adrian Long
So? Every communist does that shit. They talk about how much they love workers and anarchy etc. but then turn around and perform apologetic for despotic regimes
Chase Howard
Communists- well known for their tolerance of existing and natural forms of government and the spiritual authority of the Church
plz 'Straya tell me more
Angel White
>Killed by Romans Jews*
This, Islam is a Jewish proxy.
Jaxson Harris
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Aaron Bennett
Because they didn't pivot towards capitalism or discover coal etc which the British did.
Austin Reed
And neither did the middle eastern nations
can't blame all your problems on an 800 year old conquest