Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of rebolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism aggording to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage four Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
Gavin Long
Off yourself, OP
sage
Jaxson Gomez
Where the fuck is Spurdo? Only reason I tolerate these LARP threads.
Jacob Edwards
After today, I'm interested, Spaniard. Tell me, must communism support degeneracy? Can we have a nice communist utopia without dildo costumes?
>A Chankiri Tree or Killing Tree was a tree in the Cambodian Killing Fields against which children and infants were smashed because their parents were accused of crimes against the Khmer Rouge. It was so the children "wouldn't grow up and take revenge for their parents' deaths". Some of the soldiers laughed as they beat the children against the trees. Not to laugh could have indicated sympathy, making oneself a target.
Gavin Gutierrez
You mean in public or at all?
Jonathan Baker
>Muh Stalin killed 20 million people
Communists do not support degeneracy, just ask Uncle Joe
Jason Johnson
Oversexualization in society has to do with social interests of capitalism so there would be no public sex acts in socialist society.
Logan Martin
Well stocked shelves in Venezuela
Grayson Roberts
Great variety of nothing in Venezuela
Levi Butler
Is it possible to have a monarch as a figurehead while still being considered "communist"?
David Parker
>what all commies deserve
Hudson Garcia
Shame about Venezuela. But I don't see how Oil prices crashing the capitalist market has to do with this thread. Actually yes, capitalism sucks.
Jace Butler
The miracles of socialsim
Eli Ross
Nice days in OP's favorite regime.
Andrew Price
We don't support degeneracy, but we consider very few things to be degenerate.
Parker Edwards
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Nolan Richardson
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James Long
OP, quickly grab that one item left on the shelves, who knows when the next supplies arrive.
Brayden Cox
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Samuel Williams
At that point, you should abolish the monarchy, instead of using it as a human zoo.
Henry Edwards
People enjoying sports in Venezuela
James Hall
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Aaron Nelson
If the whole world is communist, where will the communists buy their crops? USSR bought wheat from Canada while crops rotted on their collective farms.
Eli Parker
The economic miracle that makes OP jizz in his pants
Carter Bailey
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Isaiah Gutierrez
We really should bring revolution to Venezuela too and end their capitalist regime!
Depends, a lot of degeneracy comes from the bourgeoisie.
Julian Flores
>When you want to rebel against the establishment but the establishment brainwashes you into redirecting your anger against other worker class people
Why is the alt-right such a cuck for the establishment?
Angel Campbell
>Human zoo
That's a great idea, user
Zachary Reed
Traditional sports in communist countries
Jayden Ward
They did also export lot of their corps too. Also Soviet union was a union of SOCIALIST republics, not communism since there is no state or money under communism.
Xavier Brooks
The funny thing is, commies are the ones who end up hanged or dead in real life.
Hudson Cox
>Oil prices crashing the capitalist market
My gas tank is full, junior.
John Hughes
Amazing variety in Venezuela, what would OP buy?
Jayden Allen
Are you insinuating that soviets had more purchasing power?
Asher Thompson
Probably nothing since we would not want to live in capitalist country like Venezuela.
Camden Brown
Next stage of humanity. On sale: nothing, price: 0.00
Aiden Brown
This so much. Think of phrases and ideas like "the American dream" it's used to keep the working class hopeful that eventually they will rise above the sludge that is living in the lower class under capitalism, and achieve material wealth. However, that day never comes. These luxuries are for the kings-I mean capitalists only.
>Be aware around communists >Lists antifa, black bloc, BLM, and other thugs Kek
Landon Jenkins
saged
Gavin Murphy
They did. Their calorie intake was higher that US' too.
Michael Clark
Venezuelans enjoy this game: Find something left on the shelves
Jaxson Green
This is the only reason I don't automatically hide commie threads. It never gets old.
Jace Hughes
That is a picture of Yugoslavian leader, they were lot closer to west with their market socialism.
But no, I`m not claiming that.
Jacob Hernandez
>At that point, you should abolish the monarchy, instead of using it as a human zoo.
Soviets had Presidents for Life with authoritarian rule. So democratic.
Ian Gutierrez
Yes. If you break your leg free healthcare would take care of it in the USSR. In the United States you have to pay 100k worth of hospital bills, basically just work for 3 years to pay it off LOL. Nice purchasing power
Levi Reed
Shopping for toilet paper, traditional Venezuelan activity. Socialism makes it possible
Nicholas Robinson
Central concept of Communism >From each according to his ability, to each according to his need Setting aside the fact that there is no quantifiable metric for "ability" or "need" this phrase implies a system for resource management, mainly distribution, but as well all know Communism is not permitted a state so there cannot be a distributor. I am curious as to how Communism reconciles their core belief with the reality of how to achieve it. The only answers I've ever gotten out of Commies so far is "lol democracy" however I find it hard to believe anyone would advocate that democracy alone could achieve all of this with a straight face.
So tl;dr Commies tell me how you hope to accomplish your goals regarding resource management without a state or bureaucracy
Austin Morales
you can subsist on spoonfuls of sugar for a couple months. It wont be fun, but carbs are amazing.
Bentley Hill
Vroom vroom
Dylan Collins
Anyone who lived under that system will tell you you're full of shit, junior.
Grayson Diaz
Amazing variety, juicy mangos. Only in socialist countries!
Wyatt Perry
Anyone who lived under that system would tell you they want it back lol
Nathan Stewart
Well planned economy, thanks to socialism.
Evan Roberts
Direct democratic councils.
Josiah Rogers
Decentralization of the state apparatus into self-sufficient communes that would co-operate on the confederate basis.
Carter Price
Clean shelves only in socialist countries. Cleaner than anywhere else.
Cooper Sanchez
>Yes. If you break your leg free healthcare would take care of it in the USSR. In the United States you have to pay 100k worth of hospital bills
I broke my leg and only paid a few hundred.
Henry Thomas
Nothing in many different flavors. Socialism in advanced stage.
Liam Collins
What would OP buy for dinner here? Nothing or maybe nothing? Well, I guess, nothing.
Blake Harris
Just be lucky you're not this
Jaxson Jackson
You're forgetting you're paying double for insurance than what a citizen with universal healthcare pays in taxes.
Eli King
This is why I open these threads
Eli Gomez
Full scale utopia, classless, stateless, foodless. Enjoy socialism!
Brody Anderson
But then you probably have an insurance then that you have to pay for in one way or another.
Brandon Flores
OP, communism much like nazi faggots and lolbertarianism is a doomed ideological position resulting in nothing but failure. Just accept that the earth is fucked.
Our only real hope is in creating an egalitarian artificial intelligence system to govern us away from the kekles of capitalism on a martian colony.
Christopher White
Socialism as always.
Wyatt Watson
Again, I find it hard to believe that direct democracy would be effective or efficient in managing literally everything for millions of people. You would need representatives like in a Republic but even then you would be dealing with a clusterfuck of bureaucracy the likes of which I have only ever seen parodies of in episodes of Futurama. Additionally the members of these councils could not realistically contain all members of a society and therefore your council members would hold power the commoners do not and therefore be a different social class, violating your "classless" criteria for Communism. >Self-sufficient communes Who arbitrates disputes between communes or enforces the edicts of confederation?
Nicholas Diaz
You forgot your flag.
Angel Smith
>God isn't real >Sexes aren't real >Races aren't real >Morality isn't real >Absolutes are Relative >Communists do not support degeneracy >mfw
Cameron Rogers
>representatives Stop right there.
Dominic Reed
>But then you probably have an insurance then that you have to pay for in one way or another. Does Communism grow magical insurance trees where we can freely pick all the insurances we want?!?!
You're going to pay for it one way or another.
Aiden Carter
No capitalism here, lucky people. OP faps to this.
Julian Powell
Victorious socialism. OP and Marx approve this.
Julian Thompson
Little boy, I have spoken with Russians, Ukrainians, Kyrgyztanis, Yugoslavians, etc. who lived there in the SSR's and USSR and not one of them would want to go back to that. I lived in a city with a lot of these immigrants. I'm 50, so old enough to know them.
This place is like Disneyland to them after that. New arrivals are so happy to be here you can't wipe the smiles off their faces. Suddenly they're eating better, have more clothing, own their own homes and vehicles, etc.
You are just a dumb teenage commie fanboy with your head wedged up your ass.
Mason Taylor
does being that irrelevant and repetitive hurt?
Sebastian Long
There are even price tags on the shelf. Fuck off already shill
Matthew Foster
>Stop So when a town reaches a consensus about something they all go together to tell their neighbors what they have decided? That seems inefficient.
If you are the same Spanish poster who is just going to shitpost then please let me know. I would be remiss if I wasted my time trying to actually speak if all for a response I get are memes and "lol read Marx".
Anthony Butler
>survey numbers show majority want the system back >but muh anecdote!
Joshua Turner
Statistics>Anecdotes
Wyatt Hill
>But then you probably have an insurance then that you have to pay for in one way or another.
And I can still afford a better life than a USSR citizen could.
Carter Barnes
Items that just arrived from nothing factory: nothing. Only socialism produces this amount of nothing. Other countries have to import it.
Oliver Diaz
Militia that is controlled by the confederation. Disputes are arbitrated by the confederation too, or some other 3rd party(commune).
Liam Jones
>in communism land you can take whatever you want off the shelves for free!!!!
How's that going to work for you when Laqueesha and her 15 gibsmedats raid the store?
Oh that's right, you guys have breadlines.
Gavin Peterson
>Militia that is controlled by the confederation. Disputes are arbitrated by the confederation too, or some other 3rd party(commune). So.......... a State........
Landon Roberts
Look at those shopping carts. Great amount of nothing, and best of all, for free! Thanks Marx, it's all thanks to you!
Nolan Wood
>>survey numbers show majority want the system back
Over there maybe. You haven't sourced that.
But not here. You'd have to drag them back kicking and screaming.
Jacob Hernandez
As a Russian who emigrated shortly after the fall of the Soviet Union, I can confirm this. Soviets were bewildered by the mere fact that grocery stores had produce to sell everyday without running out. Communism fucking sucks. >t. Former Soviet Unionist
Mason Rivera
>That seems inefficient It is, however, just, and much more democratic. Representative """democracies""" end up dominated by the rich and good old boy networks, and represent the rich rather than the people.
