/pol needs to wake up

This is the logical conclusion to identity politics. The left for years now has told white men that they are the enemy and are responsible for every wrong that ever happened to the world. That white men by virtue of their race and sex are complete monsters. Well, white men will eventually respond and become the monsters they describe, we are starting to see that now. Then the left points and says, "See we told you they were there all along, see the racist white man". Identity Marxist politics win and joe normal public agrees.

Let's face it, pol is identity politics for white men. I understand, I really do. I'm so fed up of being told I am the enemy. But, the Nazism thing is a bunch of crap. Nazism is socialism with a nationalist spin. Fuck you, you don't have a right to my effort. Nazism is a left wing religion. Wake up Pol. Anyone that espouses Nazism is as fucking retarded as the neo communists antifa morons. We should be arguing for true justice, individuals being treated as individuals.

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We stand with Spencer
White Want A Land for themselves
A Land for our white children
Now it is the turn of the White Man!

I'm with ya man. Socialism is unnecessary to achieve our goals. We need smaller government that is more accountable to us, not a larger one that could one day tell us to go fuck ourselves.

That will end well ... you are going to do what? Genocide or displace 100 million non white people in America? Good luck with that.

I dont agree with natsocs on everything, but they are being targeted and killed just for being white males, not even for espousing their beliefs. Said white males have the right to retaliate against any group that advocates for their genocide, thus upholding the NAP. The ovens and the hueys will come for (((them))).

too bad the Larpers will call you a shill for disagreeing with them

identity politics is INEVITABLE in a multicultural society. Either accept it now or continue to be a milktoast "conservative" that is ok with watching his country washed away into something unrecognizable

Throwing salute carrying Nazi flags these cunts pushed back white nationalism decades

White nationalism is not National socialism.

One is a socioeconomic policy.

ya that shit was fucking stupid. I guess we just can't count on idiots to not act like idiots. Sorry dipshits. Its real now. You have some influence. Time to stop "triggering" leftists with nazi salutes. Time to actually get some stuff down (nazi bullshit doesn't get anything done, if you haven't realized)

meh I never cared about being a Nazi anyways. I just did it cause I could sympathize with hating commies and jews.

There were hardly any natsocs there and the media is treating it like every person there was some flamboyant Nazi

We are well aware this is the logical conclusion to identity politics. This has been inevitable. And our numbers will only grow the more white people realize how under attack they are

Hail victory

>joe normal public agrees.
That's where you're wrong, kiddo. There's no such thing as joe normal public: just whites, blacks, asians, hispanics, snackbars and poo-in-loos.

But da joos! We gotta stop dees ((((()))))s from makin da white man SAD!

Yeah, anything remotely right-leaning is now Nazism and it fucked us hard. The fat basement dwelling virgins might have nothing to lose by identifying as Nazi's, but a lot of us do. It's fucked.

I've never felt more isolated than right now. You LARP cunts ruined us all.

fuck the nazis, only civic nationalism can control immigration problems, not edgy nazi larpers. the alt light majority will take over

then don't be a nazi, be a roman fascist.

>Sat

No, he's a 100% right. There's a massive opportunity for us to be inclusive to all types of conservative ideologies. Think of all the non-white folks that could swell our ranks. Stop the nazi bs - it's only hurting us.

>he still thinks it's larping
Off yourself.

>We should be arguing for true justice, individuals being treated as individuals.
Agreed, all I've ever asked for. But instead, we're treated like shit, while non-Whites are free to gang up with each other. Fuck. That. Shit.

Post IQ test or shut up, monkey.

>We should be arguing for true justice, individuals being treated as individuals.
That doesn't work for the same reason disarmament doesn't work. Individualism is all well and good but if your enemies are an army and you're an individual, you lose. Every time, end of story, you lose. Identity politics for whites is necessary because nonwhites sure as fuck aren't giving up their identity politics.

>become the monsters
OHHH GODD DONT BE A MONSTER A STAND UP FOR YOUR PEOPLE

MONSTEROUSSSSSSSSS

kill yourself dumbass

They consider you nazis REGARDLESS of what you do. It's been that way for decades. That's why your appeasement to the Left has gotten you no where. They spit in your face and tell you you're wrong for fighting back, and you sob like a bitch and agree with them.
You are a coward, nothing more.

It's now illegal to be white in the presence of communists.

No, but we can stop the demographic shift. We can stop immigration from shit holes filled with shit skins. We can stop systemic racism against whites like discriminatory hiring and enrollment practices. We can stop welfare programs that don't support the family, or supports immigrants.

Nazi larps have been shitting up this movement from the begining. They have a two word answer for everything "DA JOOS". Must be nice to have the world 100% figured out.

But it doesn't have to be about race, rather culture and ideology that draws the line. The quicker we accept that, the less likely we'll be outcast.

That's what's seductive about it.

We all gotta pick a side buddy, we've chosen ours and it means our death then so be it.

triggered that whites ask for their own land. How about you change that flag to something that fits your feminine beniz better

You've been doing that for decades, IT HAS GOTTEN YOU NO WHERE.
Regan gave amnesty in hopes it would get the spics to vote Republican, instead it turned California blue forever. Now you want to do that with the rest of the country?
>non-white folks that could swell our ranks
Literally doesn't exist.

It does have to be about race, because at the end of the day that is what people process first. Race is a uniform that we can't shed. It is inescapable. Racial disparity is a reality so inevitable that even the most mixed places in the world (latin america) present racialism so refined as to be down to the shades of an individual's skin. We CANNOT get rid of this, it is an insane proposition that defies reality.

>We should be arguing for true justice, individuals being treated as individuals.
Egalitarianism is a trait of white societies, go look at South Africa and see how their racial egalitarianism is working for them. I don't understand you retards you think you can walk two steps back from the totally self destructive ideology of the left, throw down your flag, and proudly proclaim "This is where we should be." News flash, you haven't moved, you're still totally within the purview of the far left conforming to their ideas and trying to appease their political sensibilities. You have exactly two choices moving forward, accept a massive degradation in living standards for yourself and more so any children and grandchildren you have (although if you go this route I'd advise you not to have children at all) or you can reject the modern left's ideas in their entirety which leads you right back where at least a sizable portion of Sup Forums sits.

> white people being monsters way before identity politics jr.

"Nazism is socialism with a nationalist spin." oh my lord the contradiction! kek

Do we want Morgan Freeman on our side or not? That is the question.

Socialism is a marginal part of natsoc and was specific to that time period and political context. What matters is that the socialism never came before traditional healthy Western values, and that's what made natsoc right wing.

"identity politics" is a dirty word for "races pursuing their own self-interest" i.e. something that's fucking inevitable and has been happening forever

The leftists will always hate us, but the normies won't/ didn't.

When normies looked at the political spectrum a few years ago, they saw respectable conservatives on the right and screeching sjw harpies on the left. The resistance to those harpies was one of our recruiting factors.

When normies look left and right now, the sjw's are still there, but the conservacucks have been replaced with literal Nazis. This is a huge PR blow.

>I'm a retard newfag who found Sup Forums on reddit and have no idea what I am talking about

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obvious shill thread, ky OP

If you think your pretentious individualism is gonna defeat any kind of collectivism you're an idiot

>not a larger one that could one day tell us to go fuck ourselves.

you mean like today?

Anyone else notice how a bunch of 'regret' posts immediately popped up after this? It's like they knew and had people waiting on the wings when it occurred, so that they could come in and make the people here doubt themselves.

That's an idiotic question. He will never be on our side.

wait your arguement for being a shitter is that its okay because communists said you would be a shitter? arent you supposed to be better than communists? try real hard to not be a faggot please and be a real american

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Culture is the flower, biology is the stem. Race is real and it matters. Your head has been filled with postmodern lies.

>outcast
Loneliness is sometimes the price of speaking the truth. But you have to keep speaking it for preference cascade to set in.

THIS

here we go. another conspirafag

cuk detected. Please kill yourself now so we can save us resources later

We shouldn't be paying for shitskin welfare and affirmitive action. I support the alt right. There is no one humanity and we are going to fuck you cuckold globalists up. I didnt vote for diversity get the shitskins out stop moving them into our neighborhoods and children's schools. They are a drain on society. I don't have your christcuck morality

Normies have always been fence sitters, they don't care about politics aside from the high level stuff IE: what the President is doing this week.
All of the fuss over this event is from the vocal minority of leftists. Most normies can't even tell you what the "alt-right" is.
I will agree that it should have been played better. Were there actual swastikas at the event? If so, where they from NSM or whatever they call themselves? If so, they are controlled opposition; useful idiots who run around with red/blue/black colored symbols and act like retards.

I agree OP. I agree.

Sure mate

why else you think whites live in rural areas?

you can't let your white kids play in the city streets. they'll get beaten, raped, and murdered

Spencer is controlled opposition, you fucking moron. You idiots need to wake up. OP is right for once. Baked Alaska, Damigo, Spencer, Enoch...do not trust these faggots. They're turning you into useful idiots to move forward a much bigger aganda. Yes, Zionists are a fucking problem but most Jews are just working stiffs or fucking useful idiots themselves. They're going to be just as fucked by massive immigration etc. as we are. There's nothing more people agree on then nazism is horrid and they're getting you to openly adopt it to prove "the white man is evil" narrative. Look at msm right now. Fox, CNN, MSNBC in lockstep. This was coordinated and some took the bait. Stop taking the bait! You want to doubt the official narrative of the holocaust ? Fine. But don't walk around with a Nazi flag or with LARPing fags who do. You're playing right into their hands. What better way to push the narrative that the white male is the problem then to show them as openly racist. Unite The Right just shut down the possibility of an open and larger right wing movement and rallies and that was the intention. Don't believe me ? Wait and see.

By pushing the "white male is the problem" narrative they further alienate Whites and make the problem worse.
Either way we will win.

Identity politics is necessary for the future of whites all around the world. A departure from ethnic pride for white people exclusively was a mistake and could still be the downfall of our future.

Why don't you stop whining and get on board to help bring home the big win.

This is just D&C, ignore it, seen tons of posts like this lately. We need to preach unity instead of conspiracy/purity spiraling. It's not even a question of whether or not he works for the government. The question is whether or not you agree and support the things he says. If so he's an ally to the cause.

You're mistaken most /pol is smart. The solution is split into ethnostates. The white one will have the same constitution and rules of current USA, just no PC, no affirmative action, and way less welfare.

Cuckiefornia will became socialist, and the south will be like south africa.

When? IDK 40 yrs? 80?

There's calexit on one side, and 14 on the other.
Brexit, the Scotland referendum, the slow EU dissolve, all are signs that the pendulum is swinging to homogeneous nations.

You can still be FOR White people and NOT be a fucking larping NAZI.

You do know that the two are both possible? Right??

Hail Hitler, motherfucker.

>pol is identity politics for white men
Sup Forums is a chaos magick training board.

Where can I sign up for the genocide? It's time to kill all non-whites, right?

I've seriously had enough. I'm sick of being put down simply because I'm white. That I should feel guilty for existing. Fuck them all. I'm gonna fucking make them pay.

No, dude. You'll win when you focus on your own personal strength and power. Becomes self-sufficient, breed, be a good example to your community and family. This is how you win. This is how we've always won. You think the Opiod crisis being rampant among poor whites is a coinicidence ? It's all part of weakening whites. You probably know this. But what's the endgame ? To win the the most brawls at protests? Then what? Blacks could rise above if they were smart enough to realize their problem is their culture. Whites need to remind themselves of this. Our culture is also degenerating. I'm not saying to not red pill people and not to fight for your rights but these leaders of the alt-right are using you. The left has always understood, that to control the narrative is to control the people. The right will not even legitimately influence the narrative with shit like what happened today.

There is literally nothing wrong with it.

1488 > 2017

It's a bid sad that white men created a reactionary identity politics movement over not being able to say nigger on the internet without being yelled at.

I mean, whether you think it's legitimate or not not at least shit like getting the vote and thinking your being systematically payed less due to things outside of your control are actually worth protesting over.

This may be the end of the White race, but I'll be damned if I go out without a fight.

I'll take down as many of you as I possibly can.

Look at all these muh PR idiots in here. Do not listen to them as these are the same idiots that stunted gamergate

Bullshit. You sound like a fucking shill. It's very clear what's going to anyone who's actually paying attention and knows their history. How much proof do you need that Spencer clearly has some odd connections? Fucking Baked Alaska used to work for Buzzfeed for fucks sake.

Its all i ever came for, and all i ever hoped to get.
I can only imagine what the next flavor will be after we have drained Trump of all his meme.

I'm becoming less favorable of flying swastikas and salutes, but nationalism is the only option. We don't want this individualism horse shit.

Correct, most Americans are content with beer, weed, football on TV, porn, etc. and don't give two shits unless it's taken from them. The people to attract are the young people who don't want to end up fucked up like older generations. Be as extreme as possible within the law.

What do you propose then? Short of an ethnostate

Swastikas and salutes are destroying our message and making it way easier for the msm to control the narrative. And if Spencer, Enoch or Damigo or any of those faggots were actually legit leaders they would have ended that shit. But when you're controlled opposition, it's for a reason.

Don't you idiots larping as nazis wishing for a white ethnostate realize that even if such a thing were possible (it's not, that ship sailed a century ago), it wouldn't fucking end with that. You'd just turn on the next group designated to be "not true whites" within your borders and repeat the process ad nauseum until your fantasy fucking civilization inevitably breaks down and is absorbed in to the miasma of history. You're no different than the regressive left morons who want to divide everyone in to categories by degree of fucking privilege, and we all know how much fun it is to laugh at those idiots when they try to eat their own.

You fucking kids and your goddamn identity politics are just shitting all over everything and calling it art.

Breed !!! Out smart, out class and out earn them!

This board has been desperate to embrace nazis today, more than ever before. I think a lot of people here believe that they'll gain strenght by simply standing up and saying "sure, I'm a nazi... and now what?!"
The issue is that this is a lie, it's a mask. It's the exact same move a bullied teen makes when he suddenly turns goth, gangsta or whatever else makes him feel like he can own his scorn.

But let me tell you, in this insignificant thread, let me fucking tell you this is bullshit. We're not nazis, we are scared. We worry because we've been told to worry. Worry about immigration, terrorism and degeracy. And we are letting it change us, instead of being progressive and actually doing good in this world, we sit here and play edgelords all day, we overembrace their ridicule, we let them turn us into monsters.
I'm sick of it, I'm sick of seeing good friends putting on the toughguise, getting as triggered as the sjws we initially poked fun at and ruin their lives and friendships...

We don't have to be the bad guys. We shouldn't let them change us.

I doubt that would happen, some Asian countries are quite homogenous but don't turn on each other. For many of us, it's just about reversing the war on whites.

Anglin recently came out saying he's not a Nazi and how it and paganism is retarded LARPing. I'm hoping more start to do the same and people move past this edgy nonsense. And no, these guys are not controlled opposition they are just trying to avoid conflict with all these factions.

Who cares at this point. We are on the verge of becoming minorities in the next generation.

We are telling white society. "Side with us, its 100% your last chance, if you don't, your children are destined to be ruled over by angry brown hordes"

If they choose the latter then we really aren't worth saving anymore. The world will become a technological, 3rd world nightmare. All the elite will have tech to keep them in power forever and the masses will be mongrelised filth who's only purpose is to consume.

Yes!! This!!!

Basically, as long as there's an idiot on each side of politics there will always be disagreement. Politics is based around sides pointing at the other and saying "Look at how silly he is, we're totally opposite to that." which is why the left think the right are all nazis and why the right think the left are all degenerates. In reality we are ALL getting ripped off someway or another but politics is a good tool to distract us and keep us fighting amongst ourselves and finding reasons to be angry rather than actually doing something.

Yes while they continue to crash our economy, import these people at rates much higher than we can outdo, while simultaneously voting away our rights and eroding our culture. Do you honestly believe we can coexist peacefully? We've dropped from 90% to 56% in just a couple generations. In South Africa where whites are a minority they're being killed at 350,000 a year and counting. They slaughter their families in front of the dad, then machete him to death

No, they're insane and will believe white = Nazi like any other fucking guinea pig.

Spencer is definitely controlled opposition. I don't have an issue wih paganism except when it's connected to gay nazi LARPing. The Nazi shit is just cringeworthy and ridiculous.

You're either a concern shill or a weak, milquetoast equivocator without the stomach to do what needs to be done. If you think this thing ends in a bloodless victory for EITHER side, you're delusional.

Oh bullshit. Heads need to roll and everybody knows it.

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mormons, eastern europeans, italians, irish

it's already happened, is happening, and would happen again.

>tfw my beautiful country will never become a white ethnostate

finally someone said this. this board could actually be used to organize events that help the right wing the culture war. I never got why right wing Americans on this would espouse Nazi ism, although distinguishing meme from seriousness is always a challenge as well.

fuck me... this.

letting someone turn you into the very thing you despise is as bad as losing imo.

I'm not saying we should continue to let these people in at all. I'm all for stopping immigration of undesirables 100%. But that's not going to be done by Nazi LARPing and following shit leaders whether they be real or controlled opposition.

More like society is telling white men that being white and a man isn't worth anything anymore. There was a time where being a white man was worth something and meant something. You can find work relatively easy, you could get paid well and feed a family, you can be treated better. In the face of a globalized society being white just isn't worth much. Now they're chimping out. The time to chimp out was 2 decades ago. It's too late white man, now you have to compete with the hoards of asians, blacks, and Mexicans.

This seems like a shill thing. Defensive genocide makes sense. Jews have been kicked out of hundreds of countries for the same things things that they are doing to us today.

>Nazism is socialism with a nationalist spin. Fuck you, you don't have a right to my effort. Nazism is a left wing religion

Albert Einstein, the notorious Nazi had this to say about socialism:
>monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/

>The economic anarchy of capitalist society as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of the evil. We see before us a huge community of producers the members of which are unceasingly striving to deprive each other of the fruits of their collective labor—not by force, but on the whole in faithful compliance with legally established rules. In this respect, it is important to realize that the means of production—that is to say, the entire productive capacity that is needed for producing consumer goods as well as additional capital goods—may legally be, and for the most part are, the private property of individuals.

>For the sake of simplicity, in the discussion that follows I shall call “workers” all those who do not share in the ownership of the means of production—although this does not quite correspond to the customary use of the term. The owner of the means of production is in a position to purchase the labor power of the worker. By using the means of production, the worker produces new goods which become the property of the capitalist. The essential point about this process is the relation between what the worker produces and what he is paid, both measured in terms of real value. Insofar as the labor contract is “free,” what the worker receives is determined not by the real value of the goods he produces, but by his minimum needs and by the capitalists’ requirements for labor power in relation to the number of workers competing for jobs. It is important to understand that even in theory the payment of the worker is not determined by the value of his product