Stefan Molyneux said it best; violence is a sign of moral depravity

Stefan Molyneux said it best; violence is a sign of moral depravity.
We need more men like him in our movement; intelligent people make us look good, violent ones do not.

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I'm disappointed with the fact that he didn't get Spencer or some organizer on the show.

He had every chance and every reason to. If he doesn't do it this week, fuck him.

He'll try, I'm sure.

>violence is bad
So if I started killing your family, you wouldn't stop me?

What if I invaded your country?

What if I simply used economic pressure to force you to do something you didn't want? Like threaten sanctions unless you too in islamic terrorist immigrants?

If peace means allowing yourself to be a victim, reject it. If peace occurs on someone else's terms, reject it.

The right are TRYING to be peaceful. But notice that every time, leftist agitators show up to start violence? Notice how the cops do nothing to them as they attack peaceful protestors? Notice how the media then demonizes the right wing who are the victims, and praises the leftist agitators and calls them peaceful? Notice how mayors revoke public gathering permits in violation of the constitution? Notice how senators draft hate speech laws to make you a thought criminal?

You're playing a rigged game and that's what they want you to play.

I doubt it. Spencer referenced him on twitter, implying that he'd be for it.

$20 says he won't do it. He's ganged up with (((Ezra))), Cernovich, Gavin, Jones and the rest of the gang and he won't get him on because they would disapprove.

Stefan is trying to become "the new media". Maybe he'll be successful, but as a result he'll be forced into wishy-washy stance on everything, behaving like the rest of them. As he is now. Look at who all the "alternative media" is interviewing.

Violence is only acceptable in self defense. Good ideas don't require force!
Stefan is just trying to do what's right and honest.

He's trying to become the new media.

Look who he interviewed on the matter: Faith Goldy, who works for (((Ezra))). It's incestuous, albeit I have nothing against the video in the principle.

He has a change to be the real opposition to the mainstream, to get the other perspective straight from the source, and he choses not to.

I like Stefan, but in my mind there is something deeply disingenuous about this.

What exactly is wrong with Mrs. Goldy? I thought she was a fine person to interview.

>Violence is only acceptable in self defense. Good ideas don't require force!
Good ideas wouldn't be allowed to exist if it weren't for the threat of violence.

That doesn't make any sense. Could you elaborate?

get fucked. humans are animals. animals fight for dominance.

>intelligent people make us look good, violent ones do not.

antifa have always ganged up on their enemies as a tactic. the violence will not go away. conservatives are only just starting to fight back.

When they go low, we must go high. Good ideas don't require force!

Read the post again.

There is nothing wrong with Faith Goldy, but why the fuck would you get her and not the organizer on the show?

I didn't mind that Stefan didn't have Spencer before because why the fuck would he? Their ideologies have very little in common.

But this is news, it's not about ideology. He choses not to have interesting content because his new buddies would disapprove. THAT is wrong.

That's pathetic, the only way you can deal with gangs of thugs and wild niggers is by becoming them?

Spencer will be on my show in due time. Let's be patient, he's probably still dealing with being arrested.

The right wingers didn't start the fighting.
If any of them did, they're retarded and need to go home.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

That is not a threat, it's just a natural right being protected.

Holy fuck Molymeme is literal cancer

Not an argument!

Yes, violence is a natural right.

When all other options have failed, everyone has the ability to fight for their own interests.

>LARPing as Stefan
>implying Spencer is still under arrest
Remember what I said. Chances are 90% that Stefan will not have ANY of the organizers of the show.

When a week goes by and he doesn't dare touch this with a ten foot pole, I'll know where his allegiance lays, and it's withe neither truth, nor his viewers.

>natural right
You didn't even read UPB, have you?

What have I done to make you think I'm LARPing as Stefan?

Has no one noticed the 'edit profile' button in the op

Not an arguement!

>Spencer will be on my show in due time
>What have I done to make you think I'm LARPing as Stefan?

inb4 you try to push shit "le I wasn't imblying :DDD"

Are you even an AnCap? In what category does lying fall into under Molyneux' categorization?

>if you kill your attackers they win
>plebbit flag to hide the foreign VPNs

The ovens will burn hot again very soon.

this.

Molymeme the thumbnails you make for your videos look like web 1.0 clickbait trash. also stop titling your videos in all caps like a teenage girl

You seem hostile.

how do you delete a thread

NAP was not breached, so it's alright.

>I've been found out

>ever, ever, EVER listening to the word of some cuck jew canadian

>tries to apply ideas of civility traditionally reserved for the elite classes to every single pleb
The masses have always been prone to violence and useful for it.

>When they go low, we must go high. Good ideas don't require force!


empty platitude.

it's self defence and fighting the future of your goddamn country. it is not having a ruck after too many pints down the boozer.

Back in my Randian days, they said violence was verboten as long as we had free speech.
Now UK, Canada, Australia, Germany and France have done away with free speech.
Randians still say it's not time for violence. The real reason is that they support White genocide because they are Jews and Jew lickspittles.

You shall be defeated in the arena of civil debate.

I love Stefan, but these people are lost causes at this point. They unironically condemn us while saying "punch a nazi" is a-OK along with holding up Trump's head and a machete.

Fuck those people, I don't even want to save them.

A wise man over here

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fuck off tacohead.

you're in no position to judge other cultures on needless violent acts.

>Violence is only acceptable in self defense. Good ideas don't require force!
False, good ideas are those that justify effective use of force and propagate as a result.

>violence initiation = violent retaliation
Marxists are braindead.

Its too far gone. Only violence and forced compliance are in your future

Didnt the 1 dollar man famously say that maybe the time for arguments is over?

The cultural war, unlike a civil war is fought through persuasion.
Killing people isn't a real convincing argument, desu desu fampai.
We should stick to memes.

kekd

>antifa have always ganged up on their enemies as a tactic.
And the vast majority of people, I gliding leftists, hate antifa
What exactly is your point?

This is a core libertarian argument. Aggression is bad. Aggression is going over there and punching that guy yelling at you. Self-defense is not aggression. If I slap the shit out of the guy wearing the punch-a-nazi shirt whilst wearing a bandanna over his face as he aggressively confronts me with his fist raised? That's no violence, that is self-defense. Self-defense is preserving life, and to me, that's morally justified.

why is everyone so scared of violence?

its the easiest way to settle a disagreement, like wtf you betas, alpha the fuck up!

Self defense is violence.

if you defeat your enemies they win.

>Good ideas don't require force!
Libertarians always assume this, but how do you know it's true?

The NAP is retarded. If you wait for the other guy to hit you first, you'll lose more often than not.

>We need more men like him in our movement; intelligent people make us look good, violent ones do not.
>not realizing (((they))) don't give a shit how smart he is
they'll make him out to be whatever they want, they control the MSM narrative, not us.
>believing that us playing the good guy as (((they))) tell us we should will actually get us treated fairly

>We need more men like him in our movement

No we don't.

We just need fewer Richard Spencers.

Yet to happen.

How could you possibly have read my post and thought I was a marxist?

>We just need fewer Richard Spencers.
that wont happen they need to control the narrative so use plants like him to do it. To make you all look like a joke in a clown car because that is what he does, and he does it very well.

Makes a lot of sense that you would say this Britbong, considering how cucked your country is.

And the line between initiation and retaliation is never defined. Everyone is living under the implied threat of violence. Don't pay your taxes to fund Taniqua's 12th kid while you can only afford 4? Violently forced into a cage. Violate speech laws? Violently forced into a cage. Try to start a farm in the praries? Need to pay for that or violence. Want to go become a woodsman and hunt wildlife to survive? Need to pay for a permit.

Everything's enforced by violence. You withhold violence on the idea that you have the peaceful opportunity for redress of any grievances you have, but when that is no longer possible, what makes your implicit power worse than that of anyone else's?

You turn your enemies into martyrs when you attack them first. That's how Islam has gotten to this point.

OK, so violence is bad, but Antifa has literally instigated all violence because that's what their directive is with their Soros funding, so why does that get ignored when they are literally terrorists and traitors to America, but people practicing self-defense against their attacks are the ones who get called violent?

How do you figure? Up until the retard with the car, the right was winning new converts left and right simply by letting BLM and the radical left be themselves and punch nazis.

>You turn your enemies into martyrs when you attack them first.
no ya dont, you ridicule and embarrass them for being losers. Scorched earth newfag, destroy them in every venue. You have alot to learn about this stuff leave it to the big boys.

Violence is not inherently moral or not, it's just using physical force which can be justified or not. You're an idiot.

The "retard with the car" was defending himself after his car was attacked. That is completely legal. Stop acting like he was the bad guy. Antifa is still the only side who has instigated violence and committed terrorism, and they've done it countless times. They should be called the terrorist organization they are, and it should've happened years ago but still hasn't. That is the real travesty.

Violence is a natural right. That is, everyone is born with freedom to engage in violence and only society prevents them from doing so freely. If you're going by social contract theory (which originated the idea of natural rights) then you're only bound by any code of ethical obligation if you agree to it.

Your stupid ideology has no foundation. There is no impliciy NAP. Its something that you want to exist, but with the lack of anything to force its existence, it doesn't.

I'm not saying I want anarchy on the streets, but don't give me special pleading and call it ethics.

This. Violence is a tool for enforcing your own rights and interestd, just like words are.

The complete delusion of the west is that people think that if they are rational and unbiased, someone else will advocate for you. No one will ever advocate for you. You have to advocate for yourself. If you rely on others (who are biased for themselves) to fight for you then they will take everything you have and call you evil for not giving more.

Arguments haven't been working and will clearly never work for us.
We have no actual representatives in our government. No one has our backs. Violence is clearly the only option.

By your logic, if I and my family was starving, it would be moral for me to roll up to a Wal-Mart with a gun and steal myself some bread and meat, or my rich neighbor. Your argument, in short, does justify anarchy, which is everyone looking out for themselves. You reject even libertarian society, which is the most basic of organized society because it literally only pushes for following the most basic tenets of organized society (government exists to preserve life, liberty, and property along with following the golden rule). I fear anarchy, because we are not evolved to handle that yet, it would literally be the strongest holding dominion over the weakest. This is a deadly recipe given that we are naturally inclined to form groups.

We already live in a world where the strong dominates the weak

>if I and my family was starving, it would be moral for me to roll up to a Wal-Mart with a gun
your a coward that would never happen, so its a moot point.

That's completely right, but we don't live in a society under a system that values libertarian ideas, we live under crony-capitalism with socialist elements. I want to see a more liberty oriented society where it would be easier for people to find success if they are willing to work for it.

Right on man, good to know where you are coming from. I'm sure you'd do fine in your Mad Max world.

He should. Let them get their side of the story out about the shitty trick pulled by the mayor or whoever.

doesnt change that your a coward because you dont stand up for what you believe in.

True sign of the coward is words. Talking is for do nothing losers, which you have explained in the thread is exactly what you are.

I thought Spencer was in jail