Have we identified the mongoloid who displayed a Nazi flag and, who wittingly or otherwise, played directly into press narratives and normy preconceptions? Who was he? Why was he allowed to associate with the broader group? Why wasn't he confronted? Why were people throwing Nazi solutes the night before? This was an unmitigated disaster. Ordinary people were repulsed by the optics of this mess. Moreover, because of the events that unfolded, quite a few active members of the "Alt-Right" will leave. Prospective members -- people actually on the verge of showing up to events -- will now avoid doing so. This is not desirable. The core of the "Alt-Right" will be distilled to dregs with nothing to lose, self-employed individuals and a handful of people like Richard.
This is why we shouldn't build a movement around a specific term or brand like the "Alt-Right" -- this must be avoided. This is also why identitarians should not be centralized under Richard Spencer or anyone else. Not only is Richard naive and rather cringe-inducing at times, in organizing things around him we risk (a) establishing a cult of personality and (b) having the whole thing collapse if something happens to Richard. I don't mean to be excessively critical, but Spencer, in bashing Kessler, shows an incredible lack of loyalty. He does this with others as well, he's almost capricious. Why has he tossed Jason under the bus? Richard is a publicity hound and I would advice people to avoid hitching their wagon to him.
Start your own groups. We're united by a set of fundamental beliefs. This ought to organized as a very loose confederation or union of individuals and organizations as opposed to a monolith.
Reminder that if you have any leading information on these Neo Nazi LARPers which are harming our movement, and the conservative/right-wing base, then make sure to send/share it with @YesYoureRacist on twitter. He's /ourguy/ and helping us clean out the trash from our movement, the trash that's keeping us down and not getting anywhere.
Brandon Bailey
Look how the flag is all creased. That guy just took that flag out of the package before getting there.
Jaxson Reed
Fuck off leaf 1000 years American Reich lolz
Nathaniel Baker
Yeah, no doubt he was a fed. Just based on appearance, he doesn't fit in at all.
Lincoln Murphy
you are a fascist pig
Jack Campbell
The American National Socialist movement. A group thoroughly infiltrated by the federal government.
Blake Long
1488
Camden Hughes
When antifa show up with BLM no one bats an eye. I don't get it.
Asher Reyes
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Aiden Howard
Why do all Americans look like subhumans?
Justin Jenkins
christ, how does he have over 900 patrons? I mean I get Twitter is a libcuck shithole, but how the fuck isn't he banned? He's literally doxing right wingers
James Foster
Find him yourself, antifa
Isaac Campbell
Because the alt right are a bunch of cringeworthy autistic LARPers with absolutely no self awareness.
Thanks for killing right wing politics in America for the next 50 years faggots
Dylan King
He doesn't have the look to carry a Nazi flag. Probably a CIA plant sent here to be seen with the flag and make people cry about the ebil nazis
Jack Wright
Is it strange that the guy's nazi flag is brand new?... still has folds in it... even the boots and pants look like they aren't his everyday apparel.
These people need to be ID'd...
Everybody knows the lengths they will go to to discredit their foes... recall the 'birddogging' stuff at Trump rallies?
It would be nice to know the names and back stories of some of the more 'extreme' participants in these rallies... if the guy is a legit NAZI, out in public -- he will have no problem letting the world know
Joseph Johnson
But you literally are neo-nazis.
Hunter Howard
You're just a paranoid schiophrenic though. You've escaped from a mental hospital and we're taking you home now. It's okay, I'm a doctor.
Jason Clark
why do people still get so autistic over shit like this? you cannot control what every single person does. whether they're legitimately autistic, or just a left-wing provocateur. you simply cannot control so many variables, especially as your movement grows.
look at every single libshit gathering. we don't shame their symbols as much, but look at the kind of flags and signs they wave, ranging from Soviet symbols to explicit calls for the death of cops and white men. they aren't obsessing over optics, why should we?
shit like this is always going to be the case with anything even vaguely right-wing. best thing to do is just let it be. no one is going to give much of a shit moving forward anyway. if the content of the message is appealing, it'll be overlooked.
Justin Taylor
this. we need to get organized. and we should refuse people who don't meet the criteria. No skinhead tattooed freaks, no fat slobs wearing Murdoch Murdoch gear, no limp wristed, slouch backed faggots who bring nazi flags to be edgy. We need intelligent, fit males willing to actually fight instead of carrying tiki torches in the middle of the night while wearing white polo shirts because Richard fucking Spencer told him to.
Caleb Hall
>Who brought a Nazi flag to Charlottesville?
most of these mongoloids are either controled ((opposition)) or LARPers falling into derectly into the media view of the "right"
Owen Peterson
What the fuck is the difference between the alt right and neo nazism? Pro tip: there is no difference, retard. Just be a man and say you're a national socialist don't hide behind "le alt right" shit
Adam Lopez
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Jayden Nelson
>"unite the right" >actually does the opposite Tell them to go and stay go.
Kayden Russell
Probably a fed plant. (serious)
Hudson Wright
You are grossly understimating how symbology operates.
Easton Smith
>good people
Connor Lopez
the guy flew back to israel already
Caleb Morgan
Fake it needs more Europe
Ian Roberts
Maybe paranoid, but it's warranted in this era.
Find out who the people are... if they are legit NAZIs fine, you will have succeeded in outing them, no?
Isn't that what has been happening... people getting doxxed? Why doxx only a few of the NAZIs, why not get ALL of them?
Camden Thomas
is OP implying the alt-right isnt already dead?
Brody Allen
Look at that flag closely. See how it was taken out of a package minutes before the picture was taken? Look at those creases. That fag is there simply to false flag. Leftist are merely pretending to be nazi's, they incite violence and leave, giving a violent picture to the world.
Every nazi flag picture from recent protests I've seen is just like this one, staged.
Elijah Gomez
Interesting eyes on those ones.
Andrew Kelly
pic related. This was posted before the second day. Notice bottom left post. The plan was to frame spencer and sabotage the event. This isn't a coincidence!
You're so prejudice. Why do you claim the actions of one or two represent the viewpoints of all? That's like saying all gay people are transvestite degenerates that flaunt their sexuality in public places.
Brown Pride! --> Yes! Black Pride! --> Yes! Jewish Pride --> Yes! Gay Pride! --> Yes! White Pride! --> BASH THEIR NAZI HEADS IN!!!
Jaxon Sanchez
exactly. i'm sure there are some liberals with enough sense to know those antifa faggots aren't good for image purposes, but there's not much else you can do than just ignore it. there's always this bullshit responsibility being put on the right as if we have to police every single fucking person to avoid looking like racists or nazis. ignore the autismos and move on.
Jack Robinson
We need to turn the dead fat slut into bars of soap so we can clean the aids blood off our Ohio brethren's Dodge Charger
Liam Barnes
People were told to leave the third Reich regalia at home It does no good.
Julian Adams
There's a difference between the 14 and the 88. Identitarians are not neo nazis you stupid low IQ big lipped nigger
Carter Hughes
Uncommon true nazi.
Matthew Gonzalez
>Who was he? find him and look up his stuff, I'm guessing either active military, possibly not American also possible he was American and recently charged with a federal crime or arrested by federal authorities
>This is why we shouldn't build a movement around a specific term or brand like the "Alt-Right" - we have been dismissing this term on this board since the term was created
Ayden Allen
The only way to do this is to martyr yourselves. Go there willing to lose life and limb. No body armor, no sticks or flag pols or even pepper spray.
We all know how they will get the living shit kicked out of them every time.
This will show that liberal cities refuse to defend the civil rights of right wing people and endorse left wing violence against them.
Sebastian Jenkins
I understand your sentiments but the only thing you're going on is that the flag was opened up right before he wove it around.
Is it not possible he simply couldn't have opened it until right before?
Landon Rodriguez
Are you a black supremacist or a black nationalist?
Xavier Evans
>muh PR Alt-right is larping bullshit Big tent movements don't work
Caleb Parker
>Because you're nazis, the intelligence community was invented by nazis
Hudson Rivera
insidious isn't it!!
Jack Flores
He looks suspiciously like a numale who just shaved his beard off.
Jonathan Ortiz
>I'm not a stormnigger >I-I'm not LARPing retard >POL IS A NAZI BOARD FUCK OFF ANCAP >THOSE FUKING NAZIS ARE HURTING OUR MOVEMENT Classic stormnigger LARPers
Jaxon Ortiz
Id go one step further and say the entire thing is staged to further segregate the population.
Robert Barnes
Maybe if shills keep typing this it will come true lmao
Oliver Jones
DOESNT MATTER MUH OPTICS DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER
YOU GOD DAMN RETARDS. GO TO A TRUMP RALLY AND SUCK TRUMPS COCK OR SOMETHING FUCK OFF.
Juan Hughes
>14"""88""" >National Socialism >nazi flags >Roman Salute >blood and soil
This is the reason people aren't taking our movement seriously. Before we even talk to them about real things such as White Genocide and race realism a bunch of oldfags with nazi flags come over and do autistic screeching which turns them away before they even here the truth. Why do boomers have to ruin every movement they touch
Andrew Long
it doesn't matter who you take you have to change tactics, either run for office or get a group of 50 guys with axe handles and break bank windows at 2am, don't hurt anybody, leave a note saying you will do this until America abandons the slavery brought about by fractional reserve lending
you'll get some national policy change pretty fucking fast that way
John Gomez
Looks government
Ian Lopez
Do confederates even have the same economic and social ideology as nazis?
Wyatt Phillips
if they are in a hood or carrying a nsdp flag they are 75% chance they are a fed informant. The "kkk" and "neonazis" havent been anything but fbi honeypots for 20 years ffs.
Christopher Clark
We're not the left. We're scrutinized in an extreme manner. Stop drawing comparisons to the left -- we're fighting an uphill battle. We have no choice but to obsess over optics. It's no longer possible to respond to criticism of this event because of the presence of "evil Nazis" -- in their absence, we could have asserted "no, these are normal Americans concerned about their heritage and hatred of whites."
WHOOPS, there's a fucking idiot holding a Nazi flag. This was a hodgepodge with a significant component of trash. There was limited discipline and the whole thing damaged our ability to communicate and reach normal people. Normal people will NOT identify or align with people who throw Nazi solutes or waive Nazi flags. It DOES NOT work.
Have you spoken to any normal people about this event? They're disgusted by the rally. They hated it and I'm referring primarily to Trump supporters.
We are in a position to police optics at conferences and rallies, and we should. Why should not just let this be -- people displaying Nazi symbols are either malicious and morons. Either way, they must to be intercepted and expunged.
Frankly, most of these rallies are counterproductive. Conferences are of greater value.
Caleb Lewis
lots of brand new cargo pants too.
Soros uniform.
Charles Lopez
>There's a difference between the 14 and the 88. Identitarians are not neo nazis you stupid low IQ big lipped nigger
Being this retarded.
>88 PRECEPTS
>By David Lane
Robert White
>Before we even talk to them about real things such as White Genocide and race realism you're a moron, the only thing you need to worry about is the fact that the entire nation top to bottom are slaves
the nazi bullshit, white genocide, race realism, all trying to distract you from the hand in your pocket stealing 95% of the value the nation creates
Jaxon Jenkins
>You're just a paranoid schiophrenic though.
He sure is, we all are here. There is no way in the world someone would actually hire people to protest or use them to subvert organizations!!
Colton Collins
DELET THIS
Jaxon Diaz
I saw a few people dressed in Nazi customes accompany the group to the distant park (after being removed from Lee Park) and eventually the parking lot.
Nobody confronted them. They were tolerated.
Owen Morales
HAHAHA
SO WHAT YOU ARE TELLING ME IS THAT YOU LITERALLY WANT TO DO THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT OP SAYS?
I swear there is so much shilling right now I can't even tell anymore.
Ayden Sanders
who the fuck cares. Freedom of speech faggot.
Noah Richardson
>We're scrutinized in an extreme manner so hide your power level and go underground
damn you guys suck at this spy business
>Have you spoken to any normal people about this event?
yes
>They're disgusted by the rally. sort of, only because they know it's fake bullshit
Adrian Diaz
IF THE FLAG IS CREASED THEY'RE AN ACTOR TO SAY THE LEAST
Nathan Russell
>Cries about LARPING Nazis >picks Nazi as flag
Parker Watson
"Anything other than ironic detachment is just cringy larping, I'm soo above all this"
Jaxon Murphy
>DELET THIS why? it's well known that most of our space program and intelligence programs took a drastic shift after operation paperclip, not saying thats a bad thing just that people need to think rationally about calling people nazis when they are in fact nazis themselves or happy to be protected by nazis
until America can admit to, and take a look at the record and talk about how Prescott Bush was banking for Hitler then our media has no right to throw accusations around and ignore the truth
Grayson Stewart
>Spencer bashing Kessler
Proofs plz
Isaac Sanchez
Optics do matter. The message was LOST. We LOST -- normal people rejected everything emanating from the rally. Talk to some normal but otherwise sympathetic people and inquire about their reaction.
The statue is going to disappear, other municipalities are using this shitshow as a pretext to remove statues, numerous young men have been doxed and the whole thing was a mess of incredible proportions.
Joshua Turner
I would've taken that flag away from him and called him an autist. And I'm 100% a white nationalist.
Gavin Gutierrez
are all americans this cringy?
Carson Lopez
>obsessing over optics You've already accepted defeat in your mind and are just trying to delay what you perceive as inevitable.
Jaxon Howard
No its not strange. The dude bought it specifically for the rally because he thought it would look cool and edgy.
James James
This is interesting speculation but it's also possible he purchased the flag right before the event and kept it folded up until he got there.
Camden Rodriguez
YEAH! LOOK AT THIS! I DON'T FIND A NAZI SYMBOL AS OFFENSIVE AS THIS.
Jason Bell
Just looking again at this guy, his posture, his haircut and his build don't at all look like the average neo nazi. He looks more like a normie, and there's something off about that.
Luis Moore
>this is normal in Trumpland
IMPEACH NOW ! IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH !
Jordan Lewis
>are all americans this cringy? at least we take our time during lovemaking instead of rushing through it to get back to reading the paper
Ian Sanchez
>Now the media will start calling us Nazis. >Now >NOW A FUCKING LEAF Where the fuck have you been for the last twenty years, faggot?
I can't find the exact spot. There's a section in which Spencer criticizes Kessler in regards to his press conference (as though Kessler should have anticipated the police officers in attendance doing nothing as he was assaulted.)
Julian Walker
>Have we identified the mongoloid who displayed a Nazi flag
Why call him a mongoloid? Are you ashamed of your own symbols?
Samuel Rogers
Look at everyone else. Their flags hung somewhere for a long time. They believe in their (insert flag here) principles and pride. Would you show up to church or school in clothes that looked like they spent a month under your couch? Think about something you believe in, that will have national coverage. Would you act like that? Again, look at everyone else. They have real flags that they took pride in. This faggot just got handed a flag, for a set up picture. Can't call them white supremacists if we don't have (fake) pictures of nazi flags. People who believe in things, represent them better. Ever see a cop with a rumpled uniform? Ever see a preacher with a rumpled suit? Ever see a politician looking like he slept in his suit? Just like most the threads posted over the last few days.
David Jackson
Shutup leaf. Nazi flags are flown. Free speech. Fix your own province faggot.
Dominic Brown
I'm a libertarian Nazis are a socialist movement I don't like socialism
Jack Bell
>radical >white >terrorists
Jordan Scott
You saw this from Canada? If you have a reference, why not post it or a link?
Cooper Anderson
Nazi iconography should be banned from all right wing activism. larping an ideology that died 70 years ago is pointless and does nothing for us.
Joseph Thompson
He's not /ourguy/ you lying sack of shit. The dude is obviously radical left wing; look at his follows. His comments. Stop pretending to be a "true nazi" and kys faggit.
William Miller
The real problem is the KKK clowns and Neo nazis degenerates larpers not the nazi flags or Nationak socialists...
Owen Walker
>mongoloid who displayed a Nazi flag
pic related
Connor Williams
Those are the NSM (NatSoc Movement) flags and are completely infiltrated by the FBI and have been for a long time. Read up on the FBI and CIA COINTELPRO operations which it details their control . You need to kick those guys out of every fucking rally. League of the South is still legit.
Oliver James
>his posture, He looks like he really really wants to rub his hands together.
Wyatt Sanchez
This is such basic stuff. When we were fighting for international recognition in 90-91', there were communists blowing up Jewish graveyards as false flags and propping far righters with all the Nazi iconography etc. Who the fuck falls for this?