Can we finally admit that a star trek society is the real answer?

all this alt right and antifa mess has proven that both solutions are terrible. we need a united earth that works towards the betterment of humanity and the peaceful exploration of space. we will have warp drives soon enough and replicators too. we can replicate all the bologna we could ever want and start looking for the ayys. justin trudeau would be the ideal person to lead a united earth.

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the earth in the star trek universe only united after eugenics wars killing off all the weak

Fucking idiots like OP is going to get us all living in a Hunger games style world then realize this was nothing like muh star trek. Fucking borg go get assimilated up your ass.

FUCK Star Trek and it's communistic despotism

lol nice comment....

What people don't realize ... is that there was aliens that contacted us , forever changing our perspective. Those who didn't want to change with society .... lived out there lives and died.... Some fought and they died... this is life....

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everything is going according to plan

>can we finally admit that a star trek society is the real answer?

No. There are niggers on Star Trek.

A Star Trek society cannot exist with the Jew in the universe.

Data is too white, Trudeau wouldnt allow him on any starship. And he would take the ebony Klingons instead of Worf,, who is not black enough.

why wouldn't you want sisko to lead a space station that you were on?

This is true, Star Trek utopia is only possible after a world wide race war. Roddenberry established this early in canon, every series references the eugenics war.

are we not heading in that direction anyways?

The eugenics wars weren't "race wars". What happened is that each country used eugenics to breed super soldiers, without messing with the normal populace, so that everyone could pit the super soldiers against each other and not have to fight real wars.

Fun fact: Some of those super soldiers were designed by one of Data's ancestors.

memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Eugenics_Wars

>Advocating for mass scale violent bloodshed
>Advocating for a system based on the completely impossible concept of post scarcity

Using Star Trek to prove political arguments is just as moronic as using Harry Potter or Star Wars.

It's pure fantasy for a reason.

Seems pretty cozy. Too bad the world doesn't consist of only whites, asians and bougie minorities.

If Star Trek "urban nomad-topia" doesn't pan out. I'm good with 40k grimdark.

Beware the heretic, the alien, the mutant.

I've recently been watching Star Trek Movies and the Next Generation. I get why lefties love it

>claim to not "interfere", while they make sure situations work out to their value system
>meet all strangers with a psychic to invade their private feelings
>total peaceniks who go armed everywhere and are quick to them torpedoes at the ready
>no problem having their super powered vulcans, robots, and klingons brute force every situation
>absolute adherence to a militarized structure where free speech gives way to the whims of the captains
>Glorify the guy who beat the super test because he was so inventive and cheated, and stole a ship, and kills klingons at every chance

Stat Trek is a liberal utopia, they masterbate to their superior social evolution and enlightenment while basically violating basic human rights kicking the shit out of everyone that looks at them sideways

Solid rundown.
Liberals and commies in general live in "mind space", where they draw their maps of the ideal outcome, then they proceed to violently and forcefully rearrange fundamental reality to fit their map.

The right looks at reality, draws a map, and tries to navigate intelligently.

I say the world needs an alien invasion. If not an invasion, then definite contact. That way we can, for once, work together as a species to annihilate them. Nogs, nazis and antifas marching together taking out alien patrols on the street.

What? A superficial worker's paradise on the surface kept afloat by cutthroat black ops perpetuating a military industrial arms race and secret genocides?

Isn't that what we've got, minus the spaceships, pornoholograms and replicators that curiously nobody abuses on the show, ever? "340mg of DHC dissolved in ice cold coke".

At very least Gene realized that his utopia was unachievable. As something to aspire towards, sure, who wouldn't want to cruise about in a personal spaceship with a holodeck and infinte food and drink? Hell, scrap the spaceship, you could boot one up on the holodeck anyway. In fact, just give me a replicator and I'll build my own.

Can we finally admit that post-scarcity making magic boxes is the real answer?

why would you want to kill a 10/10 vulcan q.t?

>Can we finally admit that post-scarcity making magic boxes is the real answer?

however we get there is fine. we already can print pizzas. i think we are closer to replicators than many realize.

youtube.com/watch?v=MGxr3boyIus

>memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Bell_Riots
>Even though people with criminal records were not allowed inside Sanctuaries, it didn't take long for the homeless and unemployed to be joined by the mentally ill and other, more violent, social outcasts. These groups were referred to by their slang terms – Gimmies, Dims, and Ghosts.
Uhh, yeah, we unironically do live in Star Trek then, don't we? Cool.

>Star Trek
>WWIII nukes and Eugenics Wars wipe out most of the niggers
>Technology provides for essentially unlimited energy; matter replication unlocks post-scarcity economics
>Warp drive creates nearly unlimited opportunities for diverse human cultures to colonize new worlds and live independently

I'd be more than happy to accept that "answer," but getting there will be the trick.

A technomeritocracy? Absolutely, since we all know their diversity is real and not just "I'm not racist!" diversity hires. Those people earned those positions with their superior skill sets.

I love these threads. Reminder: Ducat did nothing wrong.

Wrong.
The governing factions of earth had nothing to do with the initial creation of Kahn and the augments, Noonien Soong created the augments as a pet project, much like data and lore, per enterprise. Kahns megalomania gave rise to their conquest and earth's governments united to defeat his army. This was after his army had wiped two thirds of the human population from the planet. This is genocide, and as the augments are a race of humans it would be considered a race war.
Fun fact: the Klingons cranial ridge is a side affect created by their own genetic meddling after trying to duplicate his work. Warf is augment offspring, and that fagget Bashir is a full blown augment.

There was also WWIII

muh prophets
Or as the Ferengi say, "Muh profits!"

>Fun fact: the Klingons cranial ridge is a side affect created by their own genetic meddling after trying to duplicate his work

it's the opposite. the genetic meddling suppressed the cranial ridges

Checked that and it was Arik Soong that created augments. It's been years since I've watched Star Trek. Are you sure? In the DS9 regurgitation of trouble with tribbles, I'm pretty sure it's implied the other way around

In attempting to do that, we would more likely mimic Idiocracy. People need motivation to get off their ass. Which is why welfare doesn't work the way it's used now.

Actually disregard this entire post, it's all wrong. If the augments are considered a race of humans it would be a race war though

Lel even back then Gene knew they had to go

it's true that there would be some slackers. if status is the new "wealth" many would rise to the occasion.

No, goyim. You're fine. Just sit right there and worry about paying me money later. Right now, enjoy yourself! What is wealth if you can't enjoy it?

Star Trek lore says that people were not to be held responsible for the acts of their ancestors.

Prime Directive says not to give any aid or advanced ideas to primitive cultures. This would have worked if it had been implemented in Mesoamerica, Australia and Africa.

Replicators make material possessions practically immaterial. The technology drove the philosophy. We can't implement Star Trek sharing without replicators and post scarcity

This gal gets it.

>impossible concept of post scarcity
not necessarily, There's an entire asteroid belt of precious metals and such, all snugly in orbit of a natural fusion generator.

btw both Kirk and Spock were Jews

Star trek is someone imagination sweetie

>tfw commies are stealing space from us.

>We can't implement Star Trek sharing without replicators and post scarcity
Also here is the thing. Technologies making approximation of post scarity possible (what includes AI) would make humanity irrelevant and outdated.

obviously star trek is a best case scenario for humanity, but it requires a post scarcity society, not just space travel. When we can generate almost limitless amounts of energy and literally turn energy into food, then we can all love each other and come together as a species.

yes it's clear to all now that multiculturalism and equality is the only way.

>7 people
>only 1 is white

Data is master race.

Commander tell me about your sexual organ

Yeah, those people in the top frame totally aren't virtue signalling at all and aren't paid actors or actresses to further a narrative. I grew up in a mulitcultural neighborhood and segregation is natural. You can try being as friendly as you want, it doesn't make them like or even understand you. Is it racist if they think they're superior to white people? Most of them do today because of the constant white shaming. "White fragility" yet whites are constantly under attack for being successful and for giving everyone an equal opportunity. You might honestly believe the system is biased but there are laws in place to protect minorities from oppression and to help them succeed. If they still can't succeed, it's not the white man's fault - they're just not exploring their options.

Most of those people in the bottom frame probably never even heard of Sup Forums

TNG only had a melanated Klingon and a blind reading rainbow oreo that had a thing for light skinned women (even though he couldn't detect skin tones) Almost everyone else was white. I think they had a spic engineer and a couple black ensigns

Star Trek is communism. You work not for pay but for the "betterment of society".

Star trek is fiction.

>Only 1 is white
Explain how doc, picard, and riker aren't white.

Star Trek is a fascist society with state control of most things.

It defies the laws of economics and as such doesn't make sense.

The Economic Fantasy of "Star Trek"

Money allows all participants to employ a universally recognized medium of exchange. No longer will you have to find a third or fourth or fifth party to trade your lumber to in order to get goods from the farmer. You can use money. You can hold it, spend it, and even lend it for a return sometime in the future. The flexibility of money, with its ability to let disparate persons work in harmony, is (far from Roddenberry’s view) one of the most glorious developments in the history of mankind. Money is the machinery of peace, not of war.

Furthermore, without money, it is impossible for the value of consumer or producer goods to be expressed in a practical way. Prices reflect the countless subjective valuations of sellers and buyers engaging in peaceful exchange. Prices are the result of each participant’s decisions—the essential carriers of information and the indispensable elements of economic calculation. They not only reflect preferences, but also the relative scarcity of goods and resources. Without money, there can be no systematic expression of value or scarcity. Even in Roddenberry’s “Federation,” someone had to buy the “dilithium crystals” for Scotty to use in his famous Engine Room.

fee.org/articles/the-economic-fantasy-of-star-trek/

>Star Trek
>distinct races exist in the far future
unintentionally fash

the barber was blue

Yes. The goal needs to be post-scarcity. State Capitalism is the best means to get us there.

It's clearly a joke, sperglord.

As long as the captain and second in command are rational (white males).

Yes but it is the only scenario where communism actually works, IE when we have magic boxes that make everything for free

even the rape therapist is greek, IE the original white

>It defies the laws of economics and as such doesn't make sense.
No it doesn't. Economic laws break down when scarcity ceases to be a thing.

So you admit your retarded system doesn't work until capitalism literally fixes everything forever. Good to know.

It wasn't a good one if even a sperglord didn't get it.
Data isn't even white. He's yellow and it explains why he's so smart.

If one looks closely at “Star Trek,” Gene Roddenberry’s United Nations-based concept of the “Federation” and the military life of his space travelers, one concludes that he adhered strongly to the fanciful ideas of utopian socialism. Like the socialists who preceded him, he favored large-scale blocks of control instead of small political bodies or individual autonomy. He rejected private property and market exchange, believing that man would “grow out” of those childish idiosyncrasies. He embraced a paternalistic view of the future that would inevitably lead to depleted resources, impoverishment, and economic stagnation, not a galaxy-hopping culture that found adventure at every turn.

Oddly enough, his stipulation that there be no money in his high-tech space series means that his main characters, when in dire need of some product or service out in deep space, have to revert to the inefficient and outdated method of exchange we replaced thousands of years ago. In fact, this is precisely what the producer who sat before me explained when I asked her how they wrote stories that required some kind of market exchange.

In the “Final Frontier,” she said, they are forced to barter for what they need—just like the olden days.

How frustrating for both the writers and the characters they created. It’s no wonder Captain Kirk always wanted to be beamed away. He wanted to get to a world where the universal principles of economics applied, not the fanciful dreams of a visionary whose ideas had been tried and failed many times throughout human history.

fee.org/articles/the-economic-fantasy-of-star-trek/

Star Trek Is Wrong: There Will Always Be Scarcity

mises.org/library/star-trek-wrong-there-will-always-be-scarcity

Convince the African warlords and cartels first

>Star trek society
>Literally sci-fi
You answered your own question.

The Prime Directive is race realist and anti-universalistic. It denies the existence of universal sentient right. It recognizes that different species have different evolutionary destinies.

Contain your autism. Star Trek is a world where the mass-energy equivalence has been solved and is used to create food, clothing, literally everything at the push of a button. And this is powered by almost limitless energy creation in the form of fusion/warp reactors.

Imagine you had a box you could plug into your wall and create enough food to feed the entire world for less than the cost of running a microwave for 2 minutes. And not only that, the machine could also make drones to deliver the food to everyone in the world. Or just make more machines identical to itself.

Given those two conditions, that level of technological advancement, please explain how scarcity still exists.

Star Trek? No on my watch, The New Common Wealth it will be. Chaos and order must be part of your political system otherwise it will become too boring.

Nah, a natsoc society is the real answer.
Other races aren't capable of advanced civilization. And unless there are qt aliens like Asari or Twi'lek I don't care about them or space exploration either. What we need is a untied white front.

A Trip to the Moon was also sci-fi

>So you admit your retarded system doesn't work until capitalism literally fixes everything forever.

That's literally the official ideology of China. Capitalism was empirically demonstrated to cause different material conditions than originally theorized back in the early industrial age. Communism has been postponed indefinitely until the creative power of Capitalism exhausts itself, alters material conditions further (post-scarcity technology), and only then will Communism naturally arise. However, Capitalism must be constrained by the State to prevent it from devouring humanity in an atomized shitheap of modernity. Socialism with markets is what you have in China. Freedom, liberalism, none of that shit matters. All that matters is infinite technological progress, prevented from destroying humanity by the State.

Dialectical materialism is practically self-evidently true unless you believe in mysticism like the Jews who thought they could alter reality with rhetoric and call it dialectic.

>strongest crew member
>smartest crew member
>whitest crew member
>minority among less white crew members
>struggles to understand and fit in with the customs of the non-white crew members.

TNG was secretly an allegory for the displacement of the whites in society and we never even noticed.

It is, it's just external chaos from the borg, ferengi, cardassians et al

Why would a natsoc faggot want to racemix with aliens? that's like the ultimate betrayal of your "heritage"

NatSocCap National social capitalist. All European civilized nation under one constitution and decentralized goverment.

Kind of a new ONE without unanted influence inside.
You know, stuff like Saudi Arabia and the muslims brotherhood...
The very people who are cultivating divide in the west with their tentacular entity...

When you let uncivilized people inside your system, you are doomed to become uncivilized aswell.

Except marx was wrong about literally everything, from his basic suppositions to his predictions to his basic fucking definitions. Or are you going to argue that the labor theory of value is in any way properly reflects reality?

Asian civilized nations are also welcome... since they rose, for those who did, from European influence.
If you are willing to be civilized, you are welcome, regardless of your origin.

Not till AFTER the eugenics wars

Since this is Sup Forums this is good enough but for Sup Forums standards far from perfect

Taking a trip to the moon didn't involve convincing the entire human race to act against their own nature.

Nation socialism isn't about heritage, it's literally just nationalism and socialism. I don't care about any heritage either, advancing America is the priority. Ideally white European countries would join us as a united white natsoc society, but the only county I truly love and feel a connection to is America.

I'm perfectly fine with race mixing as long as it's with Japanese or Korean, and I'd feel the same way about aliens as long as they had a high IQ and didn't act like niggers.
I'm not racist because of heritage or my ideology, I'm racist because I see first hand how those sub-humans act. Blacks are 13 percent of the population and commit over half of the murders. They aren't capable of civilization. They are low IQ animals that only live in modern civilization because the white man forced them into it. It's time to send them back to Africa.

Marx reasoned from an early industrial economic perspective. The basic premise of Dialectical Materialism isn't wrong. All it claims is that the material conditions dictate the nature of economic relationships. The problem with Marxism as a political program became a religion with orthodoxies and faith principles, because that's how all ideologies work. Add Jewish mysticism on top of it, and all of those autistic 160 IQ theorists were claiming that they could actually alter Man using theory, which basically denies the material nature of Man. You can't claim to have a science of history, and then refuse to alter your theory in light of new information. Well you can if you're an ideologue, which most politically minded Marxists were and are. Marxism has splintered into a dozen different lineages, much the way Classical Liberalism has. China represents the most empirically minded lineage at the moment, which is why they have been able to adapt.

At one of the later episodes of TNG, it's determined that all of the bipedal races in Star Trek descend from one bipedal alien race. Muh race-mixing argument btfo. They all descend from the same ayy

Star Trek, you say...
youtube.com/watch?v=sfbsZRbwbJ4

These cunts also kinda prove this idealistic future paradise doesn't really exist. There is still money and value applied to things.

Holy shit. That's the way it is now and it sucks. Identity is a powerful thing. The anti-whites awakened us to how important it is. We used to have it, like the rest of the world. Jews sought to destroy it and they succeeded. It's left us in ruin. We must use it to correct Western ills and get to a point where, through homogeneity, healthy individualism can exist again.

I think it's important to specify when it comes to Asians. Chinese were capable of creating a civilization, but I would call them civilized by any means. They're the Jews of Asia. Truly heartless people that can't be allowed in.

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You are incorrect. The ridges are due to uncle phil from fresh prince trying to use soongs augmented human DNA on other Klingons cuz 2 human augments btfo an entire bird of prey in hand to hand. Which caused a disease. In which Dr flox was kidnapped to cure. He did, but one of the side effects was the loss of the ridges. So in the TOS we only see klingons whoes family had been affected by the disease. And in the DS9 episode its referenced. Turns out klingons are racist.

Data should have turned off the oxygen and suffocated them all.

>we need a united earth that works towards the betterment of humanity
You think the stormcucks with their "my whiteness is all I have" bullshit will ever stop living in their delusions?

>Be like Star Trek
>White men helming the most successful iterations of.

We're already there, user.

Looks nonwhite. Also fuck fag trek, its a communists dream world.

this society looks better to me

But they are his friends.

Anyway lot of you people seem to not know your trek. Private property existed like the Picard Vineyard. Money existed for items like antimatter and dillithium that can't be replicated because that stuff like land was still scarce. How did these things work? No clue because the writers weren't sure either. It seemed to work based on wants. So if I want to start a restaurant I can, but it is a total pain in training and effort, but it is fine if that is what you really want.

Exactly what I was talking about user. Thanks. Why can't we all unite as descending from the Ayy Penis heads?

This always made me think the founders from DS9 were the progenitors. Its the same woman that plays the changeling founder in DS9.

once they are issued a uniform and given a purpose, yes many will come around. some wont but they will get assigned to jizz cleanup duty in the holodecks

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>Muh fucking space fairy tales

Yeah, but more TOS then TNG.