Here's where you lads went wrong - hear me out on this

Okay, this is gonna be tough for some to deal with, but it needs to be said - y'all went 14/88 WAY TOO FAST for the normies, and that's the only reason things aren't where you want them.

Leftists understand slow, incremental implementation of their ideals is how they got people on board with their loony shit - if they pushed for WHITE PEOPLE SUCK BALLS back in the early 1990s, they'd have buried themselves. What did they do? Made a long, 20+ year plan to keep bluepilling the normies slowly over time to get them used to the crazy shit they said, so that as they ramped up over the years, the old crazy shit no longer sounded crazy, and maybe the new ideas aren't so bad, either (and people fell for it).

What should the right have done? First, abandoned the division, agreed to work together, and found a mid-point where balance would be struck for a long-term redpilling that'd have tipped the scales.

Civic nationalists, while annoying to me, would have been great allies to say "Well, let's work together, and I'll put aside my GAS THE KIKES talk until we push the left back into their hole, then we can go back to bickering amongst each other". But nope, you had to go all-fucking-in and push too hard, too fast. Did you REALLY think that giving this much fuel for the MUH EBIL NAZEES crowd would work in our favor? Jesus Christ, it was a poor move to go forward this quickly.

If we'd have had the patience to put aside differences and work jointly without the excessive memery involved, we'd probably have had Antifa labeled terrorists by now, but instead, it's flipped and now we're the "bad guys" because you civicfags can't stand anything that upsets you, and you nazifags can't tone it down long enough to ACTUALLY get some acceptance.

This is why the right always fucks up as soon as it gets some power - we never work as cohesively as the left does, and we pay the price.

Learn from this mistake, people.

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Bumping for reasonable post.

I know some of you won't compromise, but that's why you can't win, either.

It'd have been a LOT easier to point out the kikery going on daily if we'd have teamed up, but nope, the chance was lost and it'll take months or years to make up the lost ground.

Now all that the media (not that they wield anywhere near as much power with anyone other than the far left, but they WILL rally the moonbats hard on this) can do is claim that the mild-mannered desk jockey is a secret mini-Hitler, and basically, expand the range of what all leftists fear and want to destroy. It was MUCH better when most of us could be stealthy about our white nationalism and drop subtle redpills on everyone around us to make gainz, but now, you so much as say "You know something about Jews?" and you'll be viewed as Goebbels.

Again, learn your lessons this time, everyone. It'll be okay IF YOU STOP DOING THE SAME RETARDED SHIT OVER AND OVER. Don't be as fucking dumb as the leftists are - regroup, re-think the plan, re-tool image, and it can all be much better in due time.

You don't have to act like a commie to defeat one. This is just people fighting back.

And sad to say but without memes nothing would have been possible.

>reddit spacing.

>y'all went 14/88 WAY TOO FAST for the normies
going 14/88 at all is a (tactical) mistake, especially when you're fighting from the weaker (tactical) position.
>Leftists understand slow, incremental implementation of their ideals is how they got people on board with their loony shit
Stupid people. It's not leftist, it's stupid people. The poor and the dumbfucks.
>What should the right have done? First, abandoned the division, agreed to work together, and found a mid-point where balance would be struck for a long-term redpilling that'd have tipped the scales.
No. The right needs to attack the wealthy privileged that these people are coming from. The right needs to talk about how degrading the left is to black and Hispanic people, as if they're not smart enough to do it on their own. Divide and Conquer user.
>Civic nationalists, while annoying to me, would have been great allies to say "Well, let's work together, and I'll put aside my GAS THE KIKES talk until we push the left back into their hole, then we can go back to bickering amongst each other".
You CANNOT target specific groups of people and be in the "majority." You have to rally together as many people as possible, first. You have to expose the left for being violent bigoted thugs while appearing to be the victim. This is the new rules of things and we're not in the position of changing the rules.

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>You don't have to act like a commie to defeat one

Nobody said act like a commie, but understand, sometimes you can gain a LOT more ground by making use of common denominators between two mostly-like-minded groups.

>people fighting back

I have no disagreement with that. But the whole "let's give the left all the Nazi imagery they crave to keep making their case" was really not a bright move.

>without memes nothing would have been possible

I'm not talking memes in general, and even I'm guilty of posting plenty of GAS THE KIKES stuff myself, but never give the enemy too much ammo to use against you. They wanted to paint us all as the 4th Reich, and now they've got what they needed to start convincing useful idiots that it's true. That's the problem I have with it.

Stealth, boys, stealth until you have enough control to finally reveal your power level.

I'm in my 40s, raised in an era where we were taught to space paragraphs and separate different statements for clarity. Not my problem if you kiddos will disregard my points because I don't cram it all into one garbled mess.

>Leftists understand slow, incremental implementation of their ideals
Oh right, because acceptance of gay marriage wasn't fast-tracked during the Obama years or anything.

>going 14/88 at all is a (tactical) mistake, especially when you're fighting from the weaker (tactical) position.

Which is why I'm implying that you can THINK 14/88, but unless you're in charge, do not reveal your true thoughts.

>Stupid people. It's not leftist, it's stupid people. The poor and the dumbfucks

Stupid people are the useful idiots that are needed to be swayed to gain absolute power. Their agreement with our sentiments could make our ideals mainstream, but since there's a LOT of stupid folks out there, if you push them all against you, it just makes it that much harder to gain ground. Soft redpilling done slowly is how you can seize power rather than burn your cause out.

>No. The right needs to attack the wealthy privileged that these people are coming from. The right needs to talk about how degrading the left is to black and Hispanic people, as if they're not smart enough to do it on their own. Divide and Conquer user.

I agree with this, but I believe we should have done it in a joint, cohesive manner rather than have the entire (((alt-lite))) crowd distance themselves completely because they can't handle anything that's "too extreme". There is something about having larger numbers that adds validity to a movement, you know, compared to a bunch of seemingly fringe loners who are relegated to the kiddie table when everyone needs to separate themselves from such ideals.

>You have to expose the left for being violent bigoted thugs while appearing to be the victim.

Agreed. But, where was our "playing the victim" in this done with any effectiveness? Most people still don't believe in white genocide and cultural Marxism - we cannot get sympathy to the cause if everyone other than us doesn't believe the cause exists. Which is why I believe that no matter how far right of the civics any of us may be, it wasn't a good plan at all to give the left the optics that we did with all this.

How old are you, user?

I remember the start of normalizing of faggotry beginning the late 80s and early 90s, but it was SLOW, meaning, you could still make fun of fags, but that it had to be "in jest" and not because you wanted them dead.

Fast forward another 15-20 years, and they made fags so protected, you can go to jail for refusing to bake them a fucking dick-shaped cake.

This did not happen without much groundwork being laid prior to Obama, but you have to be old enough to have seen the signs when they first began.

I'm cautious of those who keep insisting on waving NAZI/Confederate flags in front of tv cameras. They are only proving the media right and scaring normies away. Almost as if that's the whole point.

>unless you're in charge, do not reveal your true thoughts.
Even if you are, don't. 1984 isn't just a warning, it's a play book.
> Soft redpilling done slowly is how you can seize power rather than burn your cause out.
Red pills do not mean shit when you're preaching to uneducated people. The democrats have been in charge of the education system for DECADES. Critical thought is frowned upon.
> I believe we should have done it in a joint, cohesive manner rather than have the entire (((alt-lite))) crowd distance themselves completely because they can't handle anything that's "too extreme."
There shouldn't be an (((alt-lite))), alt-right, new right, or whatever. It's a sign of clear division. We need a to re-clarify the right and not allow people to preach soft division. We need a group with a good strong message.
>But, where was our "playing the victim" in this done with any effectiveness?
You cannot challenge the narrative and be the victim at the same time. You have to go out as a protest against leftist violence. You have to frame yourself as the victim from the beginning.

>They are only proving the media right and scaring normies away.

The longer this all goes on, the more I'm finally starting to believe in "controlled opposition" after all.

Reminds me of the stories I heard from a vegan friend who talked about how the feds would infiltrate animal rights groups, feed the psychoses of the weakest but most volatile members, and push them to go all-in and eventually ruin the movement's reputation over time. I can certainly see this happening over and over with the far right as the feds keep fucking with the minds of those who are teetering on the brink until they do stupid shit, completely shutting down any dialogue that could be beneficial to promoting far-right ideals in the future.

Oh look a centrist pussy who wants right wingers to "tone it down" with a 20 year give and take penny-dish bullshit commie charity plan, LITERALLY says "mid-point" AND "balance", you want a fucking truce, because you're afraid of looking like the "bad guys", what the fuck, do you have blue pilled faggot friends that keep you in the fucking closet on your views? Why is this thread here?

TLDR This is second term behavior
Fucking idiot sheeple following jews and cia nigger disinfo agents

ONLY LISTEN TO TRUMP
TRUMP IS WHAT GOT YOU HERE
TRUMP IS THE ONLY PURE SIGNAL LEFT
FOLLOW HIS TWITTER, AND ONLY HIS TWITTER

DE-CLUTTER YOUR MIND OF JEWISH NOISE

You definitely have some great points, and hopefully more people can get on board with logical means to gain ground vs. the retarded shit that's been happening lately.

Only good news in all of this is that

A) We've got 3.5 more years to fix this shit before we'll have any shot of losing full control of things, and

B) People have very short attention spans now, and this too shall pass SO LONG AS we shift the narrative to something more favorable.

People have goldfish-like memory now, just distract until they forget, and start again.

Nice kikery, but nah, we've seen how your "plan" went, and not gonna fall for it again.

I think it's an issue of how power and ideals are passed on to the group.
for leftists, the power/ideals come from the top down. gov. officials, rich donors, etc. the people on the bottom making the noise are interchangeable and expendable, allowing for numerous loses without altering the cause.

for "alt-right" the power and ideals come from the natural progression of individuals coming together and agreeing. these are small and tight groups. when losses occur, they're huge.

Do your ideas stand on their own merit or do you have to wave a NAZI flag into the tv camera to appeal to normies? Do you really think marching around, dressed like slobs while waving a flag that the normies see as evil is attractive?
I think the message is attractive without all that cringey shit.

>for "alt-right" the power and ideals come from the natural progression of individuals coming together and agreeing.

Very true. Now, we've got plenty of disagreement that's going to make a rough road for a bit, nothing we can't overcome, but it's going to take some ingenuity to get back out of the hole many of us were tossed in with all this.

Youre playing right into their hands with this defeatist mentality user
Fucking brush this shit off and ignore it
Just ignore it and it will eventually not be the news headline of the day
Then you fucking rage at them harder than ever with facts and logic and proof.
We dont have to change a goddamn thing around here.

We were and are still winning. Uncuck yourself rn bro

>y'all
leftie liberal shill detected, 18 words in
back to commiefornia twitter with you!

Midwest, you faggot. Some of us say it just so we can give the city-dwelling liberal retards some fun to think of us as hick dullards.

No shit the idea of "controlled opposition" is real - do you honestly think states are going to allow the existence of groups that represent existential threats to their entrenched power? Without at least directing or guiding them so they cannot threaten those with actual power?

The only real issue here is determining who/which groups are in fact controlled opposition. The way I see it, if the group emphasized outright violence and/or advocacy against their fellow lower class plebs (regardless of background) rather than the elites that actually dictate policy, they are controlled op.

>Youre playing right into their hands with this defeatist mentality user

Not defeatist, just a realist who sees this as a setback. I still want the same things, just that I don't see the current gameplan that was followed as any way to do anything of use and will hurt more than it helps.

>Just ignore it and it will eventually not be the news headline of the day

Needs to be NEW news to push out the old stuff. The leftists are having a field day with this, so it's gonna take something else to outrage them in new ways to get them off track. Trump pardoning Arpaio would certainly do the trick.

>Then you fucking rage at them harder than ever with facts and logic and proof.

When the other side has their fingers in their ears and their eyes closed, you can't get them to accept anything. They have to be softened to get them to open up to something new, or, they need to be directly victimized by the things we detest to change their ways (being soft-mugged by a pack of nigs was my turning point 20 years ago, otherwise, who knows what sort of retardation I may have now).

>We were and are still winning.

We are, but we have to accept when we need to pump the brakes a bit and slow things down. Never said we lost, just said that if we keep doing this the same way, then we WILL lose.

One of the most balanced and sober posts I've seen lately.

>I still want the same things, just that I don't see the current gameplan that was followed
Youre seriously not thinking straight if you think what happened saturday was part of anyone's "gameplan" except the CIA and their operatives in the MSM. Seriously dude. None of what you saw was real in any sense. The entire situation was cooked up professional revolutionists

Pft you're the fucking kike shills, I don't know anything about those guys in charlotsville other than they got shut down illegally and pushed into the protesters by militarized police forces, if you want to talk about fucking "plans", those right wingers in VA could've been goddamn idiots and it wouldn't make any difference. You shouldn't let the actions of others define your identity, or in your cases, your little shriveling egos, so impressionable. Brush the shit off if you have beliefs and ideals of your own merit, they'll outshine any idiot regardless of the situation. You're fucking shook over this crap and it's pathetic, you fucking shills.

This is true of both extremes, really. One more generation of letting things progress at their own rate, and the globalists would have had it in the bag. Likewise, the reaction blossomed way too early. Now the center is ping ponging between them.

>A) We've got 3.5 more years to fix this shit before we'll have any shot of losing full control of things
You're not paying attention. Between 2008 and 2016, those fuckers were fighting every god damn day to tilt shit to the left.
They took a mexican on black crime and blamed all white people and tried to ban guns.
They took a black man trying to steal a cops gun and framed it against cops.
They encouraged minorities to burn shit down.
They encouraged news outlets to go hawg fucking wild with narratives.
We do not have 3.5 fucking years. We don't have 3.5 weeks at this pace.
>B) People have very short attention spans now, and this too shall pass SO LONG AS we shift the narrative to something more favorable.
Maybe. You could be right. But people also are influenced easily. If bad shit keeps happening and they keep framing it against the right, we're not going to be left with much outside of violence.
Violence is really fucking bad for a struggling economy. Europe, US, and Asia are all struggling.
The shit is so close to REALLY hitting the fan and most of us aren't ready.
How much ammo do you have? Do you have enough food to survive 12 months without power and grocery stores?
Is your community ready to fight in a civil war? Are you even debt free?

Shit really fucking matters and we're all way behind where we should be at.
They're not talking about peace, they're talking about killing white people and bringing socialism to the US.
That's not something an election cycle can fix.

The thing is, there isn't 30 years available to 'save' the western world. So I can't vlame people for wanting to rush through it, but as you said, it won't work.

The western world cannot be saved.

in the next few days when this calms down, you will crawl back into your plebbit hole.

dont cuck to libtards. don't cuck to jewish media. don't cuck with virtue signalling cuckservatives. the fault of the chaos is at the feet of the NC state who allowed violent leftists to block entrance to the event and then the police pushed everyone out of the park into a crowd of rabid leftists.

conflating the Field's action with the entire event is foolish. If they State had done their job properly, none of this would even happened.

>y'all

What the fuck do you spell it ya'll for

It takes centuries to build a civilization and decades to destroy it

Virginia not NC but all points stand
It was set up to shift public focus and worked, they were going to run this kind of media smear shit even before fields compounded it with whatever happened there

>He has worked for the Center for American Progress and worked with John Podesta on Barack Obama's State Department Transition Team.[2]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Signer

Going 14/88 at all is disgusting. It's not conservatism or American. It's low brow knuckle dragging cousin fucking stupid.

damn i keep doing that, i've got NC stuck in my head for some reason.

McAuliffe is the one at fault here, it won't be forgotten and the narrative would have died out completely in light of this had Field's not driven his car into a gaggle of libtards. that was their 'in' and they're milking it for all it's worth, going all out trying to stomp on their own caricature they created from the alt-right boogeyman.

Look we NEED to redpill Blacks. We need them to know that Mexicans are hurting them, and use people like Dave Chappelle and Michael Jackson to show them how (((they))) fucked Blacks over.

Yes a lot of them are morons, but go after the intelligent ones and redpill them. Imagine having a rally with White Pride AND Black Pride together against the (((Pharasies))). They would freak out. If we win we can work out our differences without a race war.

In fact the Race War is a psyop (Charlie Manson, Timothy Mcveye) to divide. Seriously we don't need "based black men" we need Black NAZI's.

>y'all

GTFO no one using that term here.

Stop playing dress-up games.

I wish people like you who can't get paid had their own country

literally hasbara
>kikes can't help it

Hitler is America now
>too bad for hand-rubbies ...

>y'all went 14/88 WAY TOO FAST for the normies

MOTHER FUCKER I'M A WHITE MALE THERE IS NO KIKERY DRIP DRIP FEED

This guy is right. Listen to him anons
>Unite the right

For civ fags:
>Stop your crazed hatred for race realist and let them help you beat back the communist.
>If they really are as bad as you think then they will never grow very powerful and you have nothing to fear because you guys will have subdued the communist and tamed the Nazis

My 14/88 brothers:
>Be open to the civic fags. They don't know as much as we do. They are still learning and suffereing from the lack of knowledge and brainwashing we all grew up with. Their heart is in the right place and the majority of them seek the truth. So slowly show them the truth. They will become red-pilled very quickly. Just give it a few years
>About the swasitca and other symbols. Keep them out of the public eye for the time being. I own a kreigsmarine flag, but I keep it hidden away for the right time. Keep red-pilling the civic guys and shifting that window. We speak the truth and so long as we don't scare them off at first they will listen to us.
>So buy our time and prepare the gas chambers and Dr. William Luther Pierce stuff on the web and in private.
>When the time comes, and our numbers are great, we will rise up and unleash the storm.

Ok Sargon

but to the left you're all Nazis anyway

You 1488s are negro trash. You have no place in our high IQ Jewish-lead civic nationalist state. Please put your low IQ asses on a boat and go to Africa where you belong.

t. Jew

Progress should have been made more stealthily, certainly. The problem was idiots like Spencer jumping on the Trump bandwagon and proclaiming himself leader of the 'Alt-Right'. This was a profoundly uncool thing you can do because as soon as you give a movement a name, it dies - and anybody even remotely 'cool' understands this. It also led to the actual new right wing people being lumbered with associations they didn't want. It was tiring trying to fight these associations off. Like it or not, this is ALL about image, and the last thing anyone needs is to be associated with tryhards.

bump. good posts like these are what we need

wtf I love Jews now!

Dropping the 88 is the most important thing.

Also you probably shouldn't murder people in terrorist attacks hitting them with your car.

You can't create a rally of right wing nationalists and separatists groups.
These are groups of people that want to change the US constitution, or separate, or actually invoke White Privilege into law.
You are not going to get any public support from any public Anti-SJW figure doing this.

I understand that this rally was intended to provoke the left, and it was successful on that level. But it also just made the actual conservatives and Trump supporters look like actual Nazi's and killed their whole message.

You have to think that so little positive came from the rally, that Trump eventually had to denounce the groups involved.

Organizing a rally specifically for these groups, and tossing in a few larping retards from /pol (mostly leddit, let's be honest) is just a stupid idea.

>Second degree murder
If it was terrorism, he would at least be charged with 1st degree murder or attempt to commit murder.

weak af senpai
its already unraveling as a large scale psyop, literally swayed no one just brought more ppl to our side

Actually, it's all about not wanting to look like the bad guys, because most are NOT bad guys. The left had patience, and it paid dividends for them. If certain elements of the right had that kind of patience, then eventually there'd be a situation where they were seen to be the reasonable ones while the leftists were deemed mentally ill and a danger to society.

THIS IS YOUR ENEMY

You know, I'm already prepped, debt-free, and strategically relocated as I watch this country become the next South Africa. I'll live my remaining days quite comfy.
But, I got excited when I saw people actually standing up for themselves. I thought, "oh, there may be hope after all."
It's a shame you guys peaked so soon. I really thought things would turn around.
Keep waving those NAZI flags in front to the tv cameras, scaring away any support from normies. The very same normies that are brainwashed that "Israel is our greatest ally" and sends $30B dollars of their tax money to Israel. Keep proving the leftist media right. When your mom/wife/daughter get gang-raped by the third-world, you can look into the camera with a tear in your eye and say "I didn't sell out".
Good Luck.

It's called minimal and maximal Goals people.

The civil rights movement didn't start off saying it wanted total equality and interracial marriage and affirmative action and reparations which is what they wanted.

(Maximum Goal)

They said we just want to sit in the bus and eat at restraints when we travel.

(Minimal Goal)

Learn the difference you larping faggots.

Where is it 'unravelling'? On conspiracy blogs preaching to a choir of about three people?

What the actual fuck

You act like one day has changed years of what you describe. Right is always the reasonable side and always behaves that way under normal circumstances. What happened in charlottesville was a hit job against the Democrat invented idea of "alt right" - nothing about it was real in that it doesnt reflect actual real world wide scale trends, it's more Democrat imagination because the reality is out of their control

I tried to explain this to the retards, but they keep on calling people shills and cucks. It's one of the 48 Laws of Power too now that I think about it.

I feel physically sick.

Who gives a shit, whitey needs to die!

What a sick fuck

I agree. Best thing you guys can do now is move to Eastern Europe and help to protect their borders. At least these countries are not bluepilled. Then you can watch from afar with your families, safe and smug, as America goes to shit and the white lefties end up shoved against a wall and shot by the very people they claim to be protecting.

Gas yourselves

The nazi movement died in 1945.

It will always be "too soon" for nazism.
Jews took good care that nobody will forget "muh 6 gorillion gaz chambers" for a very very long time.

But OP is right, in the sense that nothing goes quick in politics, unless you want to win it by a coup, but come on... that's not doable at all, and not sustainable either.

People that are deep down confident that their ideas are right, don't need violence, just to talk people into it.

Daily reminder you dumb faggots are gonna get Sup Forums shut down.

This. Been on FaceBook to see how the normies are reacting and literally two people I'm friends with are reposting Antifa quotes saying "White Supremacy is Terrorism" and getting hundreds of thousands of likes.

White Nationalism jumped the fucking fun on this one.

Another retard. We had been pushing back against them so well before the Nazi fucktards came out. Richard Spencer and his gang of dip shits are a hindrance and quite frankly need a good kicking in. They've ruined years of good solid progress against the assholes in one chimp out. Fuck him and his alt right faggot group.

I think it's a combination of people pulling the strings using our "useful idiots" to make shit worse for visibility.

It's not that the powers that be have enough people in place to make it happen themselves, but they're certainly using those of us who aren't thinking this through very well to further their mission.

>muh PR the post
The left will always have (((the establishments))) backing, and they have it because they are kosher. Are you suggesting we become kosher ourselves? Because that defeats the whole purpose and contradicts our beliefs.
>siding with x group
Literally why? Fuck them, there is no need for dozens of political parties/ideologies.

The only thing I agree with is not giving up on the common people and getting them to our cause and to march with us, but not at the price of altering our views to make them more appealing to them. Pic related its the same tricks, and one day they wont be laughing anymore.

>Pft you're the fucking kike shills
Yeah, you got me, total kike in disguise, amirite?

>they got shut down illegally and pushed into the protesters by militarized police forces,
This is correct, nobody is arguing that part.

>You shouldn't let the actions of others define your identity
I don't, however, I'm not myopic enough to think that my vision for the right is the correct and only one to where I'll fuck up potential relationships with allies because I have to always be right.

>You're fucking shook over this crap
No, I'm just looking at the game from a long-term standpoint and not purely from a niggerish "today is the only day that matters" stance.

>We do not have 3.5 fucking years. We don't have 3.5 weeks at this pace.

Then what do you propose? I'm all ears.

>The shit is so close to REALLY hitting the fan and most of us aren't ready.
You can never REALLY be ready, user. No matter how much anyone thinks they are.

>They're not talking about peace, they're talking about killing white people and bringing socialism to the US.
Precisely why I believe that NOT dividing ourselves further or giving shit-tier optics to the general public but rather cohesive arguments they can have some agreement with is the key to our success.

>the fault of the chaos is at the feet of the NC state who allowed violent leftists to block entrance to the event and then the police pushed everyone out of the park into a crowd of rabid leftists

But, how do you convince the public of this?

All they saw were MUH TORCH WIELDING NAZIS GETTING READY TO LYNCH INNOCENT PEOPLE!!!! You first have to convince them they did not see things the way the media is claiming in order to take control of the narrative, otherwise, you're LITERALLY HITLER to the normies.

>we never work as cohesively as the left does, and we pay the price.

Except the left does not work cohesively.
It's literally a bunch of competing jews all trying to out-jew other jews and fuck over everyone else in different ways.
Each of them has different plans on how to best subvert the social hierarchy and place themselves on top. It's a constantly changing turmoil of jews scrambling over one another.

From the outside looking in, it looks like a well-orchestrated plan, but in reality, it is chaotic destruction of society with no long-term plan.
The left is chaos, the right is order.

>Sargon
I'm not a cucked "classic liberal" or skeptic or whatever the e-celebs want to call themselves.

Seriously, this is the one gripe I have with this place - when you try to actually have open debate about how to get the movement ahead, you get rammed with kike shills and numbskulls whose heads are thick despite their hearts being in the right place, and it devolves into pure pigshit.

Holy fuck, someone put it clearly enough that the dim cunts will actually make sense of this. Thank you.

Not him, but I don't believe this last part is true. The normies are waking up

>Except the left does not work cohesively
Maybe "cohesively" was a poor choice of terminology when I simply meant that they do not hamstring each other over every point they disagree on.

Their ability to work with each other, or at very least, stay out of each other's way to a great extent, is why they gain so much ground.

Lately, we've seen them begin to consume themselves....until we gave them a scary enemy to unite against. So, they heal their divisions they were causing by trying to figure out who gets what position on the victimhood hierarchy ladder and all attack us again instead of each other.

This is not what we need. We are strong when united, weak when divided, and they're doing a fine job of dividing us right now.

A cuck thread on half chan pol? Well, imagine my shock.

Hey somebody ran over some armed leftists who were attacking his car, now we are going to be demonized by the Jews and leftists. This is all so new, never in the past have the kikes attempted to make us look bad. If only we had continued to blow kosher cock, that would have saved our race from extinction

my sides

Why can't you all just torch them already? They're clearly begging for it. You can't let these degenerates breed. This is backwards civilization.

It's not just about the car of peace.

It's that it ALL plays into the narrative.

Illinois is working to make it criminal to be part of any white identity movement. If you can't see how this ALL FUCKING PLAYED INTO THE LEFT'S HANDS, then maybe it's a good thing you're Australian and halfway around the globe.

Fuck off kike, anyone who thinks we should act like faggot cucks in response to having our rally shutdown with violence needs to have their throats slit into buckets

I agree senpai. good posts.

We have our enemy, but, in order to expose them (and unite our people), we would need to play the long con and reverse the damage of 50+ years of bluepilling.

wat?

Yeah, by avoiding red pilling ppl cause they may consider u a domestic terrorists. Never mind who started the violence, never mind the ppl using this to demonize us are the same ones who refuse to connect Islam with Islamic terror. Let's just cuck hard, that will stop our ethnic cleansing. Fucking pathetic cowards/kike shills/morons

Well...it's obvious what we should make the muslims do,let's help them add 1+1 and see that when they attack they don't produce terror or news but if they kill faggot leftards at political rallies they'll get coverage
I think thus is the lesson we need to learn and teach. We can out jew the jews by using their pawns

This is a reasonable and unfortunately rare post, user. I agree fully.


It's a game of public relations - prove the enemy's accusations of who you are to be wrong, stand for something that seems reasonable and do it with dignity. The left have been in a fantasy land for a while, play-acting as if they are their favorite protagonists from Harry Potter or Star Wars or whatever resisting against the ultimate evil and as a result, they are reshaping reality to fit their storyline (violence is justified because it's against NAZI SCUM). The right, meanwhile, has managed to become an Asylum-tier shitty knockoff of Nazi Germany, using memes instead of the actual symbols for copyright reasons. The result is a tragic fucking circus of idiots on both sides.

Jesus, you dim Aussie, listen for a moment -

STOP RUSHING, START PLANNING BETTER AND NOT CAUSING MORE INTERNAL DIVIDE.

That's what I'm saying. My feelings have not changed on what I believe in, I'm not capitulating, but do I think that throwing Richard Spencer in front of a bunch of news cameras along with a group of torch-carrying LARPers is going to help? No.

I'm simply saying, let's be far more intelligent about our approach than we have been. This isn't rocket science, but if you think that you'll do anything but make the far right race realists anything but pariahs by doing more shit to give crap-tier optics to the public, you're lost.

You're claiming to be against the kikes while playing right into their hands. Good goy.

This thread literally equals 'if u kill ur enemy, they win'

>by avoiding red pilling ppl

Never said this once.

Big difference between "not redpilling" and "GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW", why is this hard for you bogans to figure out? There's a million shades in between we can take advantage of, if you think pushing for civil unrest will do anything but cause more Americans to lose freedoms and gun rights, then you're clinically insane.

>prove the enemy's accusations of who you are to be wrong, stand for something that seems reasonable and do it with dignity.

This is why I was a fan of the Richard Spencer who was doing rational race realism talks on college campuses and why I'm NOT a fan of the RS who seems to just be in it for the attention now.

When people who are influential in the movement do things that gain us new members, it's a good thing. When they turn everyone who COULD be allies off because they're like a fucking bull in a china shop with their tactics, then it's a loss.

Yeah, you either hang a kike with your own 2 hands yourself or you MUST be a kike in disguise.

GTFO, retard.

Well said

It's a war of attrition, possibly it's about the journey and not the destination. Trying to counter the long laid plans of the globalists isn't gonne be a showdown, for now anyway.

You got to stop being idiots and seize the high ground with dignity and rational argument.

I advocate a centrist attack as it seems to me the main aim for a lot of us is to derail the long term plans of the social engineers and the most effective way to do this is by co opting as much support as possible for an agenda thats only purpose is to defeat the enemy.

Liberal Christian Alliance

Liberal - take the word back from the Marxists (JP style classical liberalism)

Christian - Cultural not religious, no dogman, no barrier to entry because of "beliefs", accept all faiths and races as long as they honour the basic principles of Christian civilisation

We can't defeat the enemy in this terrain, change the terrain

Remember Centrism is a strategy not an ideology