Can we end the fucking "Muh Stalin was ebin evil, he killed 20 gorillion people!!!!!" meme?
>Killed or imprisoned a few (tens of) thousand political opponents, most of which Kulaks and traitors, some of which were the members of his own Communist party
>Apparently caused a famine that lasted for 5 years and killed (insert literally any number you fucking want here) people with no noticeable change in population number or a demographic shift literally 5 years after this supposed famine ended
Even if he imprisoned 750.000 people (which is the number thought to be all the people imprisoned throughout the entire existence of the USSR) that's still less than .4% of the population of the country in 1941, while the US has a prison population of around 1% TODAY. Stalin was no saint, he definitely killed and imprisoned people that had a differing opinion to him, you don't have to like him, you don't have to agree with his political stances or policies, but the fucking "MUH 20 GORRILION" meme has to fucking die already.
>B-but Stalin was the reason Hitler lost!
That was Hitlers own stupidity, he never should have invaded the USSR, Stalin was happy to just conquer half of Poland, the Baltics and Finland and keep the peace guaranteed by the Ribentrop-Molotov. Hitlers idiocy and arrogance fucked that up and Stalin had to fucking defend himself
Can we end the fucking "Muh Stalin was ebin evil, he killed 20 gorillion people!!!!!" meme?
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Correction, 750k isn't the thought number of imprisoned people, just of the people sent to Gulags
The holomodor did have a demograpic effect, it was to wipe out the richer/established farmers from ukraine and did just that
>Stalin was no saint, he definitely killed and imprisoned people that had a differing opinion to him, you don't have to like him, you don't have to agree with his political stances or policies, but the fucking "MUH 20 GORRILION" meme has to fucking die already.
But that's a perfectly valid reason.
He was a sociopath with no regard to human life.
Same with Hitler, retard
> Stalin was happy to just conquer half of Poland, the Baltics and Finland and keep the peace guaranteed by the Ribentrop-Molotov
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>Either way, most historians agree that war between the Soviet Union and the Axis was inevitable due to their vast ideological differences.
Yep it's an outright lie.
Any politician, no matter how empathetic and caring, has to make decisions that result in many people suffering and dying.
>Either way, most historians agree that war between the Soviet Union and the Axis was inevitable due to their vast ideological differences.
However, once rabid Nazis were removed, Peace was established despite vast ideological differences between the Soviets and Americans.
You have to break twenty million eggs to get the omelette of utopia (wait, where'd the fucking omelette go?)
The people that funded him are the same ones that control this country, it's no wonder why it excels in carrying out his policies to the next level.
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Nuclear weapons established the peace, not USA or USSR. Besides both sides did tons of dirty shit and killed millions in proxy wars.
>Peace was established despite vast ideological differences between the Soviets and Americans.
more like forced to accept peace because germany delt too much damage to russia for it to fight the combined american/british forces for control of europe
control of europe was stalins goal of propping up the national socialist movement from the beginning
Are you literally retarded? Stalin stole from the poorest in his country, Hitler took unemployment to zero percent and had cruise ship vacations for factory laborers. The fact that you even try to compare the two just shows how retarded you are.
>fucking commie scum with no actual commie experience trying to feed me bullshit
Get lost.
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The Holodomor is widely accepted as fact. Only Communist revisionist disagree with it. 7-10 million or more died. Fact. Stalin directly caused it. Fact.
Saged.
>stalin only killed millions becaue thousands were polical enimies. Totally fine!
>pinochet killed 3,000??? Most of whom were commumists?? HOW COULD THE RIGHT DEFEND HIM
leftypol logic everyone
I've heard numbers from 2 million to 30 million, and now you pull 7-10 out of your ass, just like literally every single one of these other people who "claim holodomor is a widely accepted fact". None of you have any idea what you're talking about.
>most of which Kulaks
Private ownership is not a crime you fucking degenerate jew.
If I ever run into you commie niggers outside, you're eating a fucking blade.
Hitler invaded because he saw Stalin had amassed the largest army in human history on his western border. They were going to sweep west and try for all of Europe. The Red Army Choir songs had been seeding such things in people's minds for a while.
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ENGLISH LYRICS
The Cossack rides to the Danube
He says: "My Sweetheart, good bye!"
I ride my horse,
And go forward."
"Wait, wait, Cossack,
Your girlfriend is crying,
How can you leave her,
Just think about it."
Refrain:
Maybe, maybe it's better not to leave,
Maybe, maybe it's better not to love,
Maybe, maybe it's better not to know each other
And now, and now is time to forget each other. (x2)
She waves her hand
And tears begin to fall
"How can you leave me?
Just think about it."
"Don't let your snowy hands get wet,
Don't rub your bright eyes.
From the glorious war
I shall return."
"I do not want anyone
But only you.
Take care, my sweetheart,
I wish you luck. "
The riding Cossack whistles:
"You must take care!
Wait for my triumph;
I return in three years! "
>>Killed or imprisoned a few (tens of) thousand political opponents, most of which Kulaks and traitors, some of which were the members of his own Communist party
Mhm yes yes leftie most of my family or my friend's families were touched by this douche's repressions and deportations. Git gud on some market economics and democracy shithead
>muh Stalin did nothing wrong
>muh Stalin didn't want war with Hitler and wasn't preparing for it, he was innocent...
>IT WAS ALL HITLERS FOULT, IT'S HIS FOULT NOT MY BOY STALIN
>sure he did bad things, but he was still a good boy
>please convert to my pathetic leftist narrative even tho im a western larper.
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go back to your shitty board and start more Sup Forums boards for atention.
Get a load of this meme Fascist scum
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Elected officials in charge, Free market decided my consumer trends and personal choice?! BOOOO! DIE!
One guy controls all of the wealth, the military, and starves his people for selfish gain? HE IS OUR HERO! BUILD A STATUE!
So Trump's a hero when he kills you commies off. Got it