Why is healthcare so terrible in the US...

why is healthcare so terrible in the US? Why do we have one of the worst healthcare systems in the world for such a rich powerful country? Why aren't we like Europe or Canada?

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Us is a failure

It's simple: socialized medicine only works in all white countries. Europe's systems will fail now that they're browning.

Insurance companies own us

Insurance companies

the US has the best health care in the world. the problem is that because its a private company, hospitals can charge literally anything they want
healthcare shouldnt be socialized, it should be nationalized

Other countries aren't 70%+ obese full of people who are net drains on the system

Insurance companies are a massive red herring and are not the cause of healthcare costs. Hospitals, prescription drugs, and our obesity epidemic are.

The FDA causes virtual monopolies with market exclusivity for typically a decade. That leaves a fuck ton of room for price gauging.

there isn't an obese problem medically.. thats for old people mostly. fucking kill yourself

because we also have to pay for this fucking military. Countries that give out free, wonderful healthcare cover up those losses by having tiny militaries.

The US has massive expenditures for the military and therefore *tries* not to take as much of a loss in healthcare.

Yes there is you retard most chronic diseases like heart disease are linked directly to obesity and chronic diseases are what cause the biggest strain to the system

"healthcare is a human right"
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"someone else's labor (doctors) is a human right"
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"i have the right to force people to do things for me"
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literal slavery

these people are fucking retarded. this is the literal justification that the planter class used in the antebellum South for the legality of slavery. it doesn't matter whether or not someone is compensated -- but to literally force someone to do something for you by virtue of their position (in the US, it used to be race; in this case, it'd be occupation) is the definition of slavery.

We have a mental illness problem. Maybe research more about the US and shut your piehole

SeeAnd unless you put in eugenics policies, socialized healthcare is going to end up badly even in white countries.

Because hospitals are for-profit corporations that, like all business, exist only to produce revenue. Look up how much your local hospital rakes in every year: ahd.com/

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why should other people pay for your shitty health?

how about contribute to society or get fucked and killed faggot

This. We have arguably the best healthcare in the world - best cutting edge surgeries, first access to new drugs, etc. The problem is in health insurance, and it isn't the problem you think.

People say: healthcare is too expensive!
What they mean: if I'm paying this much for insurance, why am I still paying so much for healthcare?

The answer is that any sort of cost-deferral, whether you're paying in advance or paying it off as deny, increases the amount people are able to 'afford' the product. If houses had to be bought in cash, not many people would but houses. More important, the price of a house would be lower - there would be more inventive to build something that could be bought for less, to tap into the pool of people unable to buy higher priced houses.

Same deal with student loans: a college education used to be cheap enough that you could pay for it by working summers. Now that you can take a loan and spend 20 years paying it off, the total price can be higher - they don't need to keep the price reasonable to get your business.

And of course, healthcare: if nobody is paying out of pocket, then who cares what the nominal price is? Just charge some absurd amount, and the patient pays their deductible, the insurance company pays the rest, and the insurance company hikes rates to whatever they need to be for it to be paid off after 20 years or so.

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Do you get heart disease the most prevalent and expensive condition in the US from being depressed dip shit?

This is why I'm against people from foreign country coming to America for healthcare. It's worse than where they're from. Probably need to picket hospital and clinics to raise awareness of the issue.

Seriously, go to Canada or England. They're better than us.

We don't. Poorfags and niggers just want free shit.

Get a real job, pissybritches.

wait 10 years, then you'll be bitching

Lots of niggers there, remove that and maybe someday ....

I pay taxes every fucking time I get paid for working you Nigger. I pay for unemployed Spics and Niggers to sit in their shitty Section 8 housing areas talking about whitey treating dem liek slaves an shieeee

You dont know shit except what you see on tv faggot

except you never use healthcare cuz you're a healthy 20 year old skinny little faggot. keep working and paying your dues and stop bitching like a whiny faggot. jesus.. maybe go to a commie country

What real job? Being a jew like you?

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If I recall healthcare involves another person, perhaps heavily in debt, that is required to work long hours to provide health care services to very sick people.

And since many nations completely shit on Catholic hospitals, and in fact required many large Catholic hospitals to completely ditch any ties to religion, any sense of "free" or "charitable" type care that nuns used to provide is a long gone and dead.

Also too many poor people not working and paying taxes, too many gang bangers not working and paying taxes, ultra rich people skimming more and more off the top each year and getting away with it, etc. Millions of old people living an extra 7-10 years using up $1 million+ a year in medical costs that they can't pay so hospitals are forced to eat the cost or pass it on to those who can pay.

The massively inflated cost of medicine and the doctor who needs a third porshe. Like an ambulance ride can be like 2500+ Like WTF????!!!

our countrys economy is so fucked up. Just a larger problem manifesting itself

Our government picks winners and losers.

Foreign pharma companies can't compete because it's illegal to buy drugs outside of the US.

Epipen in US is $600, in Canada it's $200.


Doctors and Hospitals determine their own prices on procedures, you can go to 3 different hospitals in the same area and get 3 wildly different prices for a certain procedure. The real problem is that you don't know until the service is rendered.

"Health care is a human right" doesn't relate at all to any of the false equivalents you raised. Idiot.

Because you are all cucked who rage at the thought of your tax dollars being actually used for something useful. Medicare and universal healthcare is one of humanity's greatest inventions. I'd move to the US if I could but I won't until you introduce universal healthcare.

I've seen the data, Epi's only cost about $10 or less to make too.

>but muh research costssss

Oldfag here, I banter with my boomer father about this subject regularly.
Which ethnic/religious group holds top positions within medical and insurance corporations?

In more socialist countries, Doctors make shit, which means only the right people become doctors, not jews.

In the US, the medical industry is littered with jews.

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BECAUSE OBAMA IS NEGRO

>oldfag
>boomer father

I'm 19 and my parents are boomers, you couldn't be that old mate.

Also Indians and Asians, no?

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Nothing a few prescription pills won't fix! But make sure to get that wall up quick to keep the real killer "drugs" out

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whoa

Because we pretty much let them charge whatever the hell they think they can get away with.
It got to the point that we can't afford shit without an insurance company talking them down on this shit on our behalf. Which you will notice is not supposed to be the primary function of an insurance company.

we don't, we have great healthcare. it just costs a lot

Because the usa is a client state of israel.

The shekels must flow.

If the government had a monopoly they could negotiate better rates. Care providers get away with it because they're abusing private entities.

We dont need half that shit though. We dont need the JSF, more ACCs, or like any tanks.

We actually have the best healthcare in the world, which is why people from other countries come to America to get their treatment.

You just have to pay for it.

I make 60k a year and I still dont feel like going to the doctor half the time because I have no idea what Im going to get charged for. Libertarians like to bitch that taxation is theft, but they should really focus their ire on the unchecked jewery of the insurance cartel.

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We pay for them to shit up their bodies

The despair is real

Government fucks up everything it touches.

They would set prices with no ability to judge value. Competition is the only efficient way to determine value.

What we need is to legally require all medical services to have prices posted in buildings where the services are rendered and online. Then competition can take effect as healthy individuals do research on where to go when they get sick in the future.

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angry fat nigger

Angry little manlet dweeb who thinks he's superior. Go get some pussy faggot

12 posts.
Valid question.
Look up plutocracy.

As long as you're not some fucking nigger or wetback on welfare, our healthcare is perfectly fine. Try learning a skill or otherwise making yourself useful to an employer and for a few bucks out of each check, you're covered.

Educate yourself. And reply back.

Sell me on Trump in light of all events, sources cited and no straw man.

If you can't, just give up and listen to left ideas. I'm sure you won't think they're nearly as bad after I explain them for you.

That doesnt work anymore. Everyone is forced into part time work. Youre a chump

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Not an argument

paying for other people's healthcare is not a human right either

Why do you think you have the right to other people's labor?

Fuck off commie