Alright listen up fuckers because this is how things are going to work from now on. Either you follow these instructions or your movement dies. The Alt-right needs to reject Neo-Nazis, and White Supremacists. White Nationalism is fine, we can easily sell this to anybody with more than a couple of brain cells until the cows come home.
National Socialists you can keep your ideology when it comes to government systems but you need to drop the toxic branding. Call yourselves State Socialists or something from now on. It means the exact same thing but is free from any negative associations... Or come up with another term, I don't really care because I'm not personally a "State Socialist".
You're never again to paint Hitler or the Nazis in a positive light, this is an albatross, and you will always have absolutely nothing to gain from this. I wouldn't even waste your time trying to explain to people how "Yah know, the Nazis really weren't that bad". Your wasting everybody else's and your own time on this and you're better off sticking to tactics that you know everybody can get behind(e.g. Whites deserve to maintain their interests in their own country and not be subject to genocide.) You can still advocate on behalf of whites and oppose Jewish manipulators but you are NOT allowed use the utterly useless and counter-productive Nazi and "Fascist" branding. You are State Socialists now if you must be and you are Alt-Right for all intents and purposes.
Anyone that has a problem with or violates these new rule will from hereon be deemed a shill or mentally unfit and will be cast out of the Alt-Right Movement.
Reposting a pasta I made last week that I find suprisingly relevant after Charlottesville.
Everyone in this thread read this book and read it well. You cannot, and I repeat CANNOT redpill normies by going full 1488 in our current social environment. My best advice would be to redpill them in a subtle manner while trying to get yourself and like minded people into positions of power so that this rot that is destroying our civilization can be reversed.
If you alienate the normies, if you cling to past movements that failed like the KKK and Nazi Germany you will fail with them. And you will never be given a second chance ever again. Remember that rationality, reason, and scientific research into racial differences and the failure of the enemy's political and social theories are on our side. The only thing that isn't on our side is culture but that can be changed if you truly TRULY want to change your culture. Don't name the Jew, give normies no option other than naming the Jew themselves. Don't blatantly blurt out that blacks destroy societies, give normies no option other than to come to that conclusion themselves. Don't make statements, ask question after question after question until the normie has no other option than to answer with the statement you want to make. Have patience, don't let emotions blind you, and realize that nature is on our side and we can get through this unfortunate stage of human history together.
Eli Anderson
Fuck it might as well post the reply I made to it as well.
I would also like to add that you need to understand neuroplasticity. With enough subtly stimulation we can get normies on our side. This is why memes work. Also I would recommend that you read the 48 Laws of Power, Rules for Radicals (to understand how the enemy got into power and what tactics we can learn from them), and Ride the Tiger.
Andrew Green
You have a point. I'm fine with white Nationalists. Not cool with Nazis. I hope this catches on.
Nolan Stewart
Excellent. Also read the rational male and stop being tfw no gf.
Christian Carter
You're wasting your breath, leaf. The people who go out and LARP with muh swastika are braindead mouthbreathers who use the imagery because it makes them feel like a big man in a kewl kid klub, not because they believe in the real nazi ideology or even have a clue what National socialism was actually about (wuts corporatism??? wuts civic duty???? Durrrr).
They're the real life equivalent of the faggot who spams about MUH EPIC 4CHIN MEMES WE R LEGUN I TROL U on twitter and normie book. There is no way to convince them not to do it or not to name drop whatever organization they're tainting with their faggotry.
Jacob Parker
You niggers are destroying the board by copy pasting your cucked crap all day long. Disavowing natsoc means allowing niggers, Jews, women, and faggots to pollute our movement with centrist moderating filth. You can go push a cucked ideology wherever you want, but shitting up the board with nonstop copypastas is disrespectful to this website. As the world continues to descend into leftist dystopia it's the radicals who will attract numbers and talent.
John James
Since we're talking books. America invented a philosophical school. It's called Pragmatism, and it shits the stars and bars. It's to America what Stoicism is to Rome, and our communist education system is failing us all by underexposing it.
Ryan Foster
Yes. Traditional views have only ever existed in Germany, and only during the third Reich. It's the entirety of Western Civilization. It's the only decade ever. America has no history. What's Rome?
Evan Hernandez
If you're at a rally and you see a faggot with Nazi/KKK shit we need to agree to beat his fucking ass and send him home. Make it clear to normies that we will not tolerate degenerates who will set this movement for true white nationalism (not trailer park meth head nationalism) back.
Asher Powell
If I don't run around autistically screaming about my favorite band, am I disavowing them?
Lincoln Reed
NatCap>NatSoc You are the real cucks. You cucked yourself the moment you surendered Capitalism to Socialism. You lot are simply doing that differently than the rest of the left. Yeah you read that right; "The rest of the left".
Hudson Mitchell
There were 6,000 people at that rally, and maybe a dozen had natsoc symbols. Do you think you're speaking to them? 99.9% already knows this shit, don't actike you came up with some insight. Any time you get enough people together, there's going to be enjoy retards for the MSM to get on camera, but organizers do need to do whatever they can to band and remove symbols that serve no strategic purpose.
But what happens is public is different than what happens online- Sup Forums should always be honest, we should nkt be pretending Hitler was the bad guy here because we think it's more palletable in a leftist framework. But in public. taquiya is the way to go for now.
Adrian Ramirez
need something with autodidact theme so as to crush the baseline liberal university narrative
Jordan Reyes
This is true. Physical removal is the clear choice.
Nicholas Hernandez
They may have wanted to disassociate with the Nazis but they failed when they allowed them to go on. They should have beat them up and ripped up their flags to show that they weren't controlled opposition.
Evan Brown
Altruism is literally never, ever great. Watch these and try to tell me it is defensible. youtube.com/watch?v=lv3VkSwhhkU youtube.com/watch?v=viGkAZR-x8s Rest assured that Altruism is the great singular primordial evil of the world with only irrationalism being a baser one.
Read "The Virtue of Selfishness"
Carson Ward
These threads are not about removing nat socs from the board. Who would want that. Molon labe my edgy memes
Julian Taylor
That's all well and good and this thread is putting them on notice that they will not be associating with us in public anymore
Mason Myers
Just another jew infiltrating to keep the goyim in check.
Nathaniel Young
LARP shill, shoo shoo
Evan Hernandez
>nonstop copypastas is disrespectful to this website
Brody Stewart
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Owen Morgan
I now realize what the real problem here is. Its not really the nat soc, we have some smart ones that "get it". Its these autistic fucktards The autistic fucktards who have no social tactic, no comprehension of strategy, no comprehension of long term goals. They are the problem. The people who shit around on 8ch pol and the DS. Were dumb enough to buy the "BUT THE MEDIA WILL CALL US NAZI/KKK SO LETS ACT LIKE THE WORST FUCKING STEREOTYPE OF ONE"
They must be purged. These fucks force Trump to clean up their dumb mistake.
Ethan Reyes
Your never going to get the media to paint you in a good light. Never you could all wear pink with unicorns and they'll still call you white racists.
You can't win democratically ever unless half your people are starving and cold, if anything the more media you get the stronger you are since more people will bother to look up the alt-right and it's policies. Where's antifa disavowing their hammer and sickle?
Pic related
Justin Gutierrez
These fine young gentlemen will save the white race. Nothing needs to change we just need to try more.
Jason Ward
Here's the difference when you don't bring your nazi/Alt-right/Natsoc/white power shit to protests.
www.youtube.com/embed/2lWituqo3qE
Look at the prayer group from a couple of days ago.
We need more of this. Charlottesville was a shit show.
Kevin Ramirez
Natsoc is what keeps the poison pill centrist kikes off the board. If you push it out this place will become a neocon shithole within a year, just like T_D. Traditional ideologies deserve a spot in the debate as much as natsoc, I won't censor my beliefs just because they cause too much normie asshurt
Liam Green
Alt-right is a term coined to browbeat and shame the +30% of Obama voters that voted for Trump.
Jaxson Barnes
>Rules of Radicals Rule 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. We disavow the Nazis and show a real effort in kicking the shit out of retards who use that symbolism and then point out that the left refuses to disavow their Communists. The left are now hypocrites.
Connor Ramirez
Dude, the secret's out already...you're not pushing anyone out. You're just getting larptards and idiots to think NatSoc in the US is an actual thing and not a troll.
Lincoln Turner
Wrong. >reject Neo-Nazis, and White Supremacists The entire point of an umbrella label like "alt-right" is to not have to. >ditch the swastikas Drop the LARPing. Nazi stuff is great on here. Keeps the place pure.
Blake Jenkins
Natsoc isn't LARPing or trolling, it's a genuine political ideology with a proven track record.
Jose Sanders
>If you push it out this place will become a neocon shithole within a year, just like T_D.
No, because anonymity and the truth will always make this the same place. Unlike you fags who have to ban dissent on the other Sup Forums and completely forgot how to engage in rational debate.
Hunter Phillips
it is absolutely larping. you wear the uniforms and fly the flags of a government which was dissolved 70 years ago.
YOU
ARE
LARPERS
Anthony Carter
What is this bullshit, kill yourself REDDIT, trying to usurp our movement, you a fucking idiot, if we lie to the people about who we are then they find out later they'll just reject us either way. What we need to do is be even more straight forward and stop with the pussy footing around, but not even be straight forward but show them reasons why we're fighting for them the way we are. >leaf >c-16 >telling us what to do >doesn't even have control over his/her country
Jaxson Butler
natsoc in the US is an actual thing that's growing.
We never thought Trump was a le epic god emperor meme here, we were pro Trump because he was a break in the cancer of modern politics, had some pro white things and were way better then all the other candidates.
Trump is step 1 to a ethno-state. And he's still a Republican one of the two party system which has proved itself to be a living cancer
You shills are retarded >Natsoc larp they don't do shit >Torchlight rally to protest the staute reeeee no stop!!!! Only by trying to get the liberal media on our side can we make ourselves look good because the media is non bias. Man r/thedonald and leftypol are posting like mad
Joshua Edwards
Teehee, LaarRRRRRrrrrping for a by gone area that won't win elections.
I don't care about your dumbass ideology. Mental masturbation of idiots won't win elections. Trump became president and is ramming a wall down America's throat and instead of helping, your ilk are fucking around with a dead failed leader of the last century and an idiot flag.
You're larping. Deal with it.
Juan Walker
Fuck you cunt. Leave. You not part of the right. You're just an asshole with a red flag and a dead leader. For the sake of everything good piss off. We want to save the us not worship fucking hitler.
Kayden Brown
It's almost like they have the same (((mods))). The similarity in the message and posting style of all these supposedly separate groups is crazy.
Blake Thomas
>trying to usurp our movement
Luis Perez
This is a trap.
Christian Cruz
>Flag Sage in the options field
Angel Russell
No.
Elijah Parker
>natsoc in the US is an actual thing that's growing.
Cameron Evans
Make it civic but not cucked Minorites can be repestced as long as they are not degenerate and abandon identity politics. We don't want this to become reddit.
Gavin Nguyen
This. No American movement needs to be associated with THIS amount of negative propaganda. Keep your idea, rebrand it. You cannot succeed with brute force. Try a new tactic, because the entirety of America is breathless after condemning the absolute crap out of nazis.
Christopher Nelson
Fucking this. This is the road to absolute victory.
Connor Rivera
Mark my words, the instant you guys ever manage to purge us is the same moment you'll be lead into the next war for the Jews. Then the leftists will continue to escalate their dialectical assault of the right wing platform. You'll be centrist faggots by the time 2020 rolls around and whitey will just go back to not voting for anybody.
Josiah Gutierrez
No actually their literally fed assets kept around specifically for this purpose.
Josiah Davis
you're asking them to cuck themselves. i don't think neo-nazis give a shit if people "view them positively"
Josiah Thomas
Patriots also support, civic nationalism,international banking and being a modern patriot has been so far changed it's unrecognizable from the White ethno state of old America. And that's not even if your a further traditionalist and recognize the failures of democracy
That's because they are 80 IQ autists who don't understand that they are damaging public perception of the right wing by LARPing. Actual activists who want to spread a conservative message need to ban these autists from political gatherings.
Jason Bell
If we can't gas the Jews the alt-right is already dead.
Henry Nelson
A good post from a leaf? This timeline really is fucking my lil brain.
Anthony Kelly
No one takes politics seriously here. It's just shitposting. Newfags constantly get confused about this. If your really want to pitch your ideas in a serious way you need to find an AmRen sugardaddy that you can glom on to. You can't be underage; you just need to look it. Or at least be youthful Don't worry if you're pudgy because a lot of them seem to like that.
Cooper Hall
>the instant you guys ever manage to purge us is the same moment you'll be lead into the next war for the Jews
Jaxson Howard
NatSocs too autistic to realize they've been drop kicked for fucking up the entire white movement.
The whole ideology is Marxist bait for obese, low IQ right wingers.
Carson Morales
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Charles Rogers
yup this big time keep posting this.
Jeremiah Stewart
Fuck off controlled alt-right. We are no longer operating as the alternative platform. Using ANY fringe flag, swastika or otherwise, implies immediately that your movement applies to some other group or nation. Take up the American flag and keep your same politics, running under the American aesthetic. If you truly care about the message of the movement, you will place it before the aesthetic. The American flag is the new flag of White Nationalism, any other flags are subverters preventing our ideas from ever reaching the mainstream. Keep your purity spiral swastika to yourself.
Connor Cox
Imagine if the said and did the exact same things with American flags instead of that larping gear, claiming that they were the true Americans. Anyone that disagrees is shouted down as anti-American. Instantly their optics improve 1000% and they must be taken seriously, as they would be flying a serious banner. A one-step process to ending fringe status.
Anthony Evans
Alt-South ain't going to like not being able to use their stars and bars.
Henry Martinez
Well said, keep up the good work.
Jack Wright
Stars and bars might be ok so long as they fly the modern flag alongside it. A lot of the CSA guys act like the Confederacy still exists. If they just flew their flag next to the modern one it wouldn't be so bad. A lot of them also don't have any interest in White Nationalism anyway, many are full on civic nat. If they're with us, I think they would understand more readily than those clinging to Natsoc imagery.
The most important thing for the movement to finally address is the swastika, runes, black sun, germanic lettering, etc. I love the whole aesthetic as much as the rest of us, and I understand the Rockwell philosophy behind the justification of its use, but everybody in their bones realizes how beyond awful it looks. An extremely vocal set of purity spiral types shout people down for being 'too weak' the moment anyone even begins to criticize the swastika. No more getting shouted down by >muh optics >muh normies These are legitimate issues that need to be considered if we're going to succeed. Choosing to lose is not strength, it is stupidity.
