Molyneux Calls out Nazis as Leftists

Nazis BTFO, you socialist scum, get the fuck out of here.

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he also calls out libertarians as retarded.

anyway here is what happens when one of you neckbeards tries to debate the god emperor

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>one hour 37 minutes

Not watching that shit

60% of it is the commentary of the guy (facists) that got btfod in the debate, since he is the one who uploaded the video.

You can skip those parts - the actual debate is like 30-40 mins

Yeah I agree with Molyneux there, things are way better when they are privatized and not run by the government

Nazis are leftist. Right wing american politics follows the founding, enlightment principles of America, not european national socialism. Left wing is basically any shit that comes across the atlantic.

>but nazis believe in heavy handed government and they're really militaristic and controlling

So are commies. Violence and "fascism" isn't right wing.

Communism, fascism, nation socialism, etc. are all 20th century european, left wing, collectivist shit.

Nice education and health system you got there lmao

>Left vs right bulldoody
>in the year of the oven, 2000 + 7
You make me sick

>education

It's not privatized in the US

>health system

Neither is healthcare, there are a shitload of subsidies and regulations

People keep fighting over Left vs. Right when the only fight that matters is Individualism vs. Collectivism.

so bad it wasn't he who got acid splashed

Molyneux would never come to a white nationalist rally, so they wouldn't have the chance. He stays away from that shit just like anyone with a brain.

Holy shit....

i wouldn't go far as the brain part, he just a guy making money of juvenile internet trolls like pol/
the guy clearly dont believe shit just pumping whatever shit is in fashion now, he wouldn't fight for shit

There are legitimate reasons to orchestrate policy at the national level with collectivism in mind.

All of his videos are free, you don't have to pay him a cent.

This is good.

Stef was getting a little too fashy.

Do you believe you have a right to tell other people how to live their lives?
>Nazis: Yes
>Communists: Yes

Nazis are retarded, yes.

Tell me something I don't know already.

>calling out liberals, libertarians and socialists as retarded
>implying he isn't right

Protip: Economic system is a secondary problem.

All that matters is taking back power, killing the jews, recreate strong morals.

Source: Mein Kampf

This

False.

It's the economy, stupid.

some cucks actually sand him money. thats his only job

This

Fuck off LARPer. You are the cancer killing white nationalism.

>anarcho communism
>anarchist

Oxymoron. True anarchism would be capitalist.

>Nazis are leftist
Objectively isn't true. You yourself know it isn't true, you're just behaving like a giant mangina.

NatSoc isn't right or left. It is the third position. It is inherently centrist, literally radical centrist. Policies span both classical domains of left and right.

This.

AnCap would actually be the best ideology for preserving whites since we could form volunatry armed communities to defend ourselves unlike under (((government)))

He is right. Nazi's are leftists. And all leftists must be defeated.

>molyneux
>relevant

this guy is a used condom. we threw him away when trump got elected

>economy over spiritualty
Hey chaim

True Anarchism is likely going to be Fascist. It'd be your goys versus the other goys.

Wrong.

NatSoc is inherently collectivist. Collectivist = left wing
Individualist = right wing

anarchocapitalism is just neoliberalism. to protect whatever you own you would need private security or black water type on private armies

In America, anything collectivist is left wing.

You are not right wing if you want to take power away from the individual and give it to the state. Even if that state is an ethnostate.

>anarcho-capitalism
>a real ideology

oh no, I've been called out by a half-Jew leaf on his faggot podcast
how will I recover :(

Well hell, even Hitler said National Socialism is rooted in Marxism, just better without all that egalitarianism crap.

He just wanted to bring the commies around to his way of thinking.

They're all socialists, they just have different color feathers.

Don't try making up your own definitions for things when you don't even know where the terms come from.
Left vs right stems from anarchy vs hierarchy. Less power afforded to the king, or more.

Support of hierarchy, reinforcing tradition, that is right wing. Reactionaries, Monarchists, Traditionalists, those are far right positions. All things that you are not.
NotSoc is dead center of the spectrum.

This isn't even remotely true. You're just making things up like all the other unread millennials.

>Nazis BTFO, you socialist scum, get the fuck out of here.

Fascism/National Socialism defy the left/right dichotomy. That is why the phrase "Third Position" is sometimes used.

it's late molymeme
go to bed now

The Nazis and confederates both lost due to bad economics. If this happens a third time then us whites will be wiped off the face of the earth.

>America
>King

What are you even talking about?

The whole point is that that spectrum doesn't apply in America. What was far-right in Europe is left of center here because it's collectivist.

Parties in America are categorized by how much power they want to give to the state relative to ordinary citizens. This means Nazism and Marxism are both left wing, because they want absolute authority to the state and almost no authority to the individual.

Yup

Anyone who claims NS/Fascism is 'leftist' is a total fucking retard that could only be an American

The ideological spectrum doesn't radically change at the board. In the US it is merely a narrower range, but it does not fundamentally change what is left or right.
You're flat out making things up because you're unread.

>Marxism
>absolute authority to the state

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Go get some basic political literacy.

>muh theoretical stateless society which has never ever happened ever in the history of communist countries

Fuck off.

>it wasn't true socialism

Do you know who you fuckers sound like?

Nice argument, lmao

Anarcho capitalism is the only solution for the enlightened people. Governments are archaic and barbaric institutions that won't exist in 500 years.

That's not what he implied. He implied that a privatized Healthcare system and a educational system would lead to tyrant and monopoly.
>Implying a gigantic market for Healthcare providers would not be exploited by a non-monopolist providing equal or better care for a lesser price.

So everything pre-modern was leftism in your view?

That isn't the point he raised at all. Stop being intellectually dishonest. If all you can do is post a knee jerk reaction meme you know that you're only shitposting.

The policies of NatSoc span both sides of the spectrum, it doesn't land on one side or the other. That is what the Canadian stated. Thats entirely factual.

Okay and sky is orange.

It's crazy to me that people can still believe that if you tell people about the NAP, they'll somehow listen and we'll find a non-violent utopia.

That's bullshit and you know it. Nazism is a white welfare state, they might as well be Bernie Bros.

Rightwing = individualistic
Leftwing = collectivist

Facism is a leftwing ideology because it advocates for collectivism. Again see what happens when you people are actually challenged to intellectually defend your beliefs.

based moly.

Was he subtly calling out the jews at the start of this video?

>B-but muh degeneracy
Shit rights itself in the end... Or it doesn't and the specific society collapses and rights itself out in the end by not existing. If you don't like degeneracy and Marxism create a campaign that is aimed at destroying it. Look at jordan peterson. He's creating a completely private and powerful software AI that will scan college curriculums in search of post modernist/Marxist dog whistles and identifiers (transectionality, furthering equality, social change etc) with no support from any public entity in oder to kill the Marxist recruitment at it's source. If Trump continues to "privatize" k-12 schooling we'll be out of this hole in one generation, probably when gen Z has kids.

Umm, actually the sky is DRUMPFT

>POSTING A GOD AWFUL MOLY VID
moddddsss!!!

>I don't like facts so I'll ignore them instead of gaining knowledge and bettering myself
If you're only going to shitpost you can just save yourself the time. Being ignorant and dogmatic never helped anyone.

Again, this isn't true. This is something that you completely made up.
See: Right = support of hierarchy
Left = support of anarchy
This is the actual root of the term. French politicians who supporting giving more power to the king sat on the right side of the room. Those who wanted the king to have less power sat on the left.

Authority vs liberty is an entirely different spectrum independent from left and right.

If you've never read a single book in your adult life you need to take a good look at yourself. Blindly parroting cult leaders like molymeme is not how you make yourself sound educated.

LOL you are so full of shit, leftism is collectivism, you must have an 80 IQ

Okay then by your imaginary definition of right and left, you are right. I can define the word "is" to mean the word "was not".

However, when most people say right and left, they make those two distinctions (individual vs collective).

Steven "one fucking dollar" (((Molyneux)))

Holy simplifications.

Both parties are to think outside their own ass, they seem to choose not to.

Why are you so dead set on ignoring actual facts? I'm speaking of political theory using actual historical precedent, you however are behaving like a toddler throwing a tantrum.
Your definitions are ones you've made yourself.

Zealous dogmatic ignorance is unbecoming.

You both couldn't possibly convince anyone that you're over the age of 12.

Holy fuck you are literally retarded

nazis are faggot leftists. it's all about national libertarianism

Hahaha, this. I get so fucking tired of neosocialists who declare every historical attempt of a socialist state to be "false" (because they're shit), meanwhile they can't point to a single "true" socialist state where the workers directly own the means of production because it's not fucking possible.

>I am 12 years old and never learned about the French Revolution

You're only harming yourself by choosing to revel in stupidity.

>hurr durr i make up definitions me am smart

Seriously you are brain damaged

Well no you are arguing about definitions of left and right and throwing ad hominems instead of arguments.

Which I don't really give a shit about, I only care about actual arguments.

to add...

You know the saying, "my answer depends on what the word 'is' means?".

If we can't agree on the definitions of basic terms like "right political ideology" and "left political ideology", obviously no point in arguing about something undefined.

>Right = support of hierarchy
>Left = support of anarchy
>This is the actual root of the term.

It doesn't fucking matter because that hasn't been accurate for over two centuries now. We don't have kings, we have a state. And the left supports a powerful state, while the right does not. Period.

You might as well be arguing party platforms of democrats and republicans a century ago.

Nazis were socialists.
Politically they were in comptetion with the Marxist communists.
The red on their swastika flag was a signa saying "join us"l to "THE reds", i.e., the revolutionary Marxists.
Socialism and Marxism are both brutal and stupid ideologies.
Of course we don't support either of them.

He knows, he is a tribesman and have quite frankly read too much actual history (including Ministry of Truth history of course), statistics and theories over the year to not know. He might be uncertain how deep it goes or what the top families are, but he knows.
Sadly he is still either a shill or self-brainwashed. Non-aggression is nothing but a propaganda tool invented by the state itself plus authority figures like the church. Evil, corrupt and destructive forces (example: Communism) should be met with full force, not "discussion".

Yes and? Our way is the right way. If you want to live in civilized society you do your fucking part or you go live in the forest. You work hard and never once take a sick day you donĀ“t need, you breed for the society and communit, you invest time and money into the community and your country. You fight and die for it.
You are nothing but communists-light, wanting so many freedoms with no real responsibility.

So in addition to displaying gross ignorance of left-right politics you also have no idea what an ad hominem fallacy is. You're just spouting terms like a redditor.
>The terms "left" and "right" appeared during the French Revolution of 1789 when members of the National Assembly divided into supporters of the king to the president's right and supporters of the revolution to his left.

I am the only one here making a factual argument. You and your retarded Lolbert lapdog are both flying by the seat of your pants.
You're relying on an entirely fallacious definition to fit your nonsensical narrative.

Incorrect. Seriously, if you haven't read any political theory don't thrust yourself into a discussion on the matter. The terms became synonymous with ideologies not because of the politics of the day, but the philosophical basis behind them. Right only means one thing, just as left only means one thing. This does not change with geography or time. The only thing that changes is how the fool tries to use them out of convenience.

Right wing means support of hierarchy. It does not mean individualism.
Left wing means support of anarchy. It does not mean collectivism.
This two latter traits are of a totally different paradigm, and do not fit on this single dimensional spectrum.

Education yourself instead of shitposting.

Nazis will get fukken nipped on the day of the snek

ITT: Molymeme cultists prove themselves to be so unread they can't even quantify the political spectrum without devolving into infantile shitposting

Holy fuck, you two are so fucking stupid.
>hurr durr I refuse to use any definitions other than the ones I make up
I never thought the day would come when I sided with a fascist

Reading this thread is just fucking embarrassing. I can't believe there are people that think Right wing is individualism and Left wing is collectivism. There's such a thing as Right wing liberty/authoritarianism and Left wing liberty/authoritarianism. How fucking new do you have to be to not know this.

Nah, m8. Being against gay marriage is for lefty faggots.