Why do capitalists lie about Fascism?

Why do capitalists lie about Fascism?

I expect this kind of behavior from moral-less commies, but why does it also from capitalists? is it ignorance or malice?

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We're democratic capitalist. Other people call us fascists.

>If I keep accusing you of being X, you must follow all tenets of X!

>You have 2 cows.
>The state ensures no usurer deprives you of your farming land so you can provide the people with milk

(((Capitalism)))
They sell you the milk and invent a robot to milk the cow, tell you you're obsolete, and keep you too poor to raise a family

Ain't that how communism works?

But that's communism.

This guy gets it.

There are many types of fascism with different economic codes.

Spanish Fallangism for example was more focused on trade unions, until Franco absorbed them into his coalition during the Spanish Civil War.

The first part, except the milk is being sold abroad to finance a fuck off military and secret police while the people starve.

nice get.
according to them, the only difference between fascism and communism is the gibbs.

that's wrong. It would be more like the State takes the cow away from the farmer if it harms the state and then considers business as usual.

see

>implying there is private property under communism
>implying there is food under communism

Communism is the state takes both, orders you to continue milking them, takes the milk and then tries to sell it back to you.

>gives


hahaha, oh wow

>communism
>you have nothing. you get nothing. you starve.

*state kills both and promises you milk

It's just most people on both sides are completely ignorant on fascism. It's just a buzzword for them.

Ignorance.
Thank Steven "Hitler took muh guns" Crowder.
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>fascism
>you have two cows
>you have a monopoly on cows and try to sell milk to desperate mothers for 200$ a glass
>the government tells you to knock that shit off

Explain usury since this seems to be the thing people get buttblasted about the most.

>communism
>you have two cows
>the government accuses you of being a cow hoarder and shoots you in the back of the head, your cows are put into a storage room and forgotten about until they starve to death
>the government announces that everyone has received their daily allotment of 10 liters of milk

Capitalism is Jewish.

Interest on loans basically

loans at rates impossible to pay back

>farmer has financial needs
>bank gives credit with high interest
>take his land when he cant pay
>use land for something different
>nation becomes less self sufficent

Communism
>You have two cows
>The communist government decides you're too rich and part of the elite
>You're killed and the government takes the cows hoarding it for the political elite
>Nobody except those with power gets any beef or milk
>The middle and lower classes starve
>Decades later
>Idiots look to this system as being the answer to all their problems
>But claim it's never been tried before
>Point out facts that it has existed and failed in the past
>That wasn't true communism they'll claim
And so the cycle continues

So - normal business practice.

>country has to import low quality, disgusting Romanian milk
>citizen's bones get brittle
>country falls apart
>dammit jooz

In fascism, i could take out loans, waste the cash and claim usury? Noice!

what are you trying to say here

No you couldnt. Stop strawmanning like a 12 year old

I don't know, man. It was going one way, and then it went another.

What good is that protection against usury then? Are you a jew?

anarco capitalism
>you have two cows

>What good is that protection against usury then?
it means you cannot take outrageous interest rates. laws against that would be on the same level as laws against pseudo-medical treatments for severe illnesses. it's just taking advantage of someone in a precarious situation

>someone shoots you and steals them

You inject them with meth-coke and turn the milk extremely adictive. Become rich by selling their milk
>Fascism
You have two cows. The State lets you have them as long as you sell your milk at a fair price, treat your workers respectfully and keep their milk free of harmful substances

You have to Cows. A jew tries to take them and the State comes and shoots the Jew

You Have to cows. The State ignites a flame that time shall not extinguish. You no longer need milk, you have ascended beyond material needs

You have two cows. One of thise cows in actually the reincarnation of Vishnu, and the Avatar that will free us from Jewish-Statnic oppression and lead trough the Kali Yiga and into a new age of prosperity

The pic is bullshit, that's literally what communists did here

Its not false doe

>implying capitalists have morals

Capitalism doesn't value morals, ethics or anything else besides money

When was that ever a problem? If you need to take a loan you look around for the one giving you the smallest interest rates.
> fascism: the system that makes milk and honey flow without any cost
Keep on dreaming.

I hate to say it

But it's true

You'll try to discredit me

But... Jews

compounding interest

I', gonna need a citation for that one, faggot.

They don't read. Libertarians read less than any faction on the planet. That's why they always say such stupid shit.

When you borrow money it should be done out of love, not as a business

THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS IT NEEDED TO BE SED.

Look up Usury

I'd say google it but you don't seek knowledge from those trying to run the show

Panem et circenses

i'm shilling for fascism and you think I don't know about the jq? lel

It's a problem faggot.
For instance, before the '08 recession, banks in Croatia gave out loans in CHF, advertised it big time, convinced clients that CHF is a "safe" and "stable" currency, while at the same time writing in clauses in credit contracts that would allow banks to "adjust" interest rates at their own leisure.

When the CHF started growing a lot during the crisis, all of a sudden people who paid 2000 kn/month now had to pay 5000 kn/month (because banks also increased rates because fuck you we can). They then proceeded to milk people dry, having them pay off several times the money they actually borrowed without even starting to pay off the main part of the loan (glavnica, not sure of the english word), they were just paying interests.

Finally, after these people organized themselves, started suing banks and protesting, the government passed a law saying that franc credits were illegal and that everyone robbed by banks like this can sue and banks have to pay you back all the money + interest (ironic).

Of course, banks went crying to Bruxelles about "non-market conditions" and "government interventions in the market" and whatnot.

That's jewish fucking usury. They could have kept normal rates and still had a massive profit, but they had to be totally greedy scum, kick thousands of people out of their homes after they had repaid those same homes several times over and then had the gall to bitch about being universally reviled in the country by everyone.

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When you can find a way for capitalism to function without dependence on usury (inb4 two people enter a mutual agreement reeeee) then you can deny the Jewishness of capitalism.

>This breaks the NAP
>the community gets rallied up
>its individualist so no one cares and just one guy shoots him and takes your cow again.

I like to do things like
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to not give (You)s.

Capitalism is Jewish. It's state-sponsored usury.


Never forget: Schiff and his boys financed the Bolsheviks.

>fascism
you have 2 cows
the state shall let your social workers group have them and compete with other social workers group within the state

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Immoral business practice that was forbidden in Europe for hundreds of years

>the most accurate representation of what revolutionary fascism was supposed to look like
Not bad flip, how's Duterte working out?

anarco capitalism
>the people will be the judge.
We would have to put everyone to death when they inevitably turn in to a lynch mob over a fake accusation.

>So - Jewish subversion of European and Christian morality for hundreds of years
Yeah pretty much

In a fascist state, you will have two cows and trade them freely to your own people, so long as you don't sell them to Marxists who want to remove 'cow ownership' or to capitalists who will buy up all the cows and milk to create an arbitrary shortage. It's a mixed economy and circumstantial to the nation that utilizes fascism.

>how's Duterte working out?
he's ok but I fucking hope that he will stop sucking China's dick and being a godless secularist. He shills hard on Protestants for some reason

Do you have any idea how facism works? That picture is bullshit.

No, you can take a loan, waste the cash, then get assigned labour duties at a low standard wage until you work off your debt in profit for the state, to fix the damage you did to the economy by being a faggot. Or you can not be a total fucking retard and pay it off on your own in increments over reasonable time.

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>Fascism
>You have two cows.
>The state forces you to produce milk for the glory of the fatherland and allows you to sell this milk to your fellow countrymen at a reasonable markup.

FASCISM
>You have health insurance
>Obama takes it from you and sells you some shit you can't use so you can't even take your kids to the hospital when you need to even if you have health care now because you can't afford the deductible if you can even afford the insurance, in some counties due to it now being an illegal monopoly, and there are no options in others so if you live in one of those with zero options, or if you can no longer afford insurance because premiums have doubled or tripled, you get an extra tax to pay instead and have to live without health care you had before aca
FIFY

In short: you need fascism because reading and understanding the TOS is too much of a hassle.
For the last time: market adjustments are NOT jewish tricks. The fact the euro is a toilet paper tier currency stems from the fact that the europeans print a ton of it to finance gibs for various kind of 'humans'.
I know right.

Yeah he's a little dogmatic and not very tactful. Probably taking the "align against US interests" a little too far. I bet he's a larping neopagan on this very board.

Well it is certainly true that the communists spawned the fascists and both are essentially marxist derived- different sides of the criticism of capitalism- which marx said was not all bad and not all good. After all, both totalitarian movements had the exact same motto "Work will set you free" this was the big reason why Stalin couldn't really attack the Germans preemptively- they were simply too similar. Stalin deferred to a strategy originally of containment, hoping western forces would just plow down the trade unions and syndicalists just in time for the communists to answer the civilian's plea.

What's the difference between a german run labor camp and a jewish run labor camp?
And how is what you describe different from what is currently the norm, apart from getting sent to labor camp.

He probably lurks on /sg/ tho

how is that jewish gold going for you hans

(((Market adjusting))) rates that are already too high compared to other EU states for no other reason but "because we can" is not capitalism, it's predatory jewish usury.

Besides, I know the banks are gonna have to pay all of it back now to anyone who presses charges because judges really hate banks as well (the entire country, regardless of ideology, despises banks here) so it's no skin off my teeth.

I don't see any of it because it's private property of entrepreneurs, who saw rich europeans fleeing, getting rounded up but still optimistic enough to hide their valuables and sign a contract.

No, it's more so creating a cycle of dependency on global markets which drive a wedge between nations and the people. If you keep on having to take out loans because currencies keep failing, you're a part of the cycle. Then land is bought up and the cycle continues. It's deliberately anti-nationalist: a debt-cycle to "create a state within a state".

The profits from the fascist one get put back into the economy and lower the price of household goods and combat inflation, and the Jewish one puts the profits back into the Jew while inflation and cost of living rise

STOP POSTING KIWI MEMES

TFW fascism is such a shitty ideology that the only way for its adherents to defend it is by screeching about communism and da joos while democracy builds the richest countries on the planet.

>disregarding the majority of this thread
It's ok some people are just blind

> the entire country hates banks
Your country is still being run by the ex yugo communists so it's really no surprise. The only thing preventing it from becoming venezuela tier is gibs and ((market adjustments)) by the ecb indeed. What you described is the reaction to said ((market adjustments)), people protecting their property by moving it to a place that doesn't devalue it's currency to stay solvent.
Seems like we both agree that central banks are bad, but in fascism, there would still be one, no?

>in fascism there would still be one no?
Almost every fascist has had radically different economic policies, so no, there is no fascist explicit position on central banks, retard
>inb4 Germany hurrrr
Germany was never fascist. Japan, Italy, and Chile were. Germany was national socialist, its own thing, and very different from Italy.

It's a synthesis you dumbass. Third position, remember. An economic middle ground but ideologically disparate. Capitalism and its antithesis hold more in common there, as two universalist ideologies.

Usury is interest on loans. People hate it because it ensures you can't pay loans back though without it no one would loan anyway.

You can't just get rid of it though, Usury was banned by Christendom and as a result they simply let Jews serve as tax collectors and loaners so they'd bear the sin of greed while Kings remained pure.

Big mistake, because it basically gave them their power. People who need money want to borrow, but people willing to borrow money have no reason to give you money unless they can get something in return.

>Capitalism
You borrow 6 cows to trade for years of training in agriculture. You borrow 2 more cows to receive years of experience in agriculture. You are able to raise cows for a few months at a time in between getting replaced by pajeet, jamal, sanchez, chang and stacy. Over 50 years you acquire just enough cows to pay your debts. The debt for your funeral passes on to your wifes son, who is given one cow a week for free.

Capitalism is the natural state of humanity. Your capital is your body, your tools, and your skillset.

It worked well until the industrial revolution when the value of bodies and skills plummeted while a (((small minority))) went and hoarded all the tools.

The problem with all forms of socialism is that it merely transfers all the tools from the (((private minority))) to the (((government minority))) while actual workers are still left with valueless skills and valueless bodies.

>Communism
You are given a shovel to pick up cow shit. You also eat the cow shit to substitute for your one glass of milk per week diet. Eventually you use the shovel to kill and eat your children then fall down dead in a field. Your body fertilizes the soil that makes the grass which feed the cow. Glorious comrade.

American capitalism
>you take out a loan from an usurer and buy 2 cows
>a corporation offers you shit money to buy your cows
>you refuse
>The corporation decides to take a short term loss for a long term gain, and drops the price of milk so low you can't compete
>you take the corporation to court, and take out a loan from the usurer to sustain in the meantime
> The court is paid off by the corporation, and drags out the whole ordeal, before finally ruling in favor of the corporation, forcing you to sell your cows to said corporation
>with no competition, the corporation starts charging $200 per glass of milk
>The usurer seizes your land from you for not paying your debts, but maintains the debts
> The corporation realizes it could make more money by slaughtering its cows, and importing shitty Chinese milk
>you later find out the corporation is owned by the usurer
>your country is now dying

> muh not real gommunism
Loans aren't charity, it's an investment. If i take a loan that means I need capital to finance something that will give me profit back. It's a lot like the initial energy in a chemical reaction, but strangely, nobody complains about jewish tricks there.

What if I get buy the cow?

Fascism: You have 2 cows
The State makes sure the milk has good quality and the workers are well paid

Fascism=/=Marxism