We can all agree the NatSoc symbolism is cancer. We can use the ideology under new symbolism and new terminology.
I think we should start using Crusader symbolism. Since Sup Forums is a Christian board anyway, why not adapt the symbolism that has saved Europe in the past?
No more swastika, no more confederate flag: let's unite under the banner of Christ and Christendom.
>a dead kike on a stick FUCKING LOL NICE TRY DUMB FAGGOT PRAISE KEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Blake Edwards
Or how about an entirely new symbol that doesnt carry baggage dumbass
Samuel Wood
NatSoc is Cancer.
Its corrupted by the same Collectivist Philosophy as their very enemy.
All you Fascists and Commies can rot.
Austin Kelly
>kek Fuck off sperglord. We don't need that kind of autism in the real world.
In hoc signo vinces
We can in-fight later once we've silenced the left and addressed our demographics problem and repelled the invasion of Muslims. Now's not the time, we need to unite as right wingers.
Zachary Foster
A big part of the friction the Alt-right is struggling against is (beyond the nazi larping) failing to actually use American Symbols for an American Movement. We have people quoting European thinkers, using European aesthetics, drawing from European myths etc. Here's an open secret, America has disdain for Europe. When you wrap yourself in our flag our people want to like you. When you draw on our mythos, our people respond. Average Americans are not going to feel anything for your black sun, or norse runes, or whatever. We need wheat fields, pioneers, flapper girls, jazz, cowboys, prospecters, minute men, 50's businessmen. We need Hemingway, pragmatism, Teddy Roosevelt type imagery. Nods to Rome work because we have a tradition of doing that here already.
Public appearances need to be clean and more than anything else American. Theres a need for new symbols, but the well of inspiration we draw from needs it's own aesthetic Monroe Doctrine.
There's also the matter of demonstrating white racial consciousness does not lead to murder. That's what Jared Taylor has been doing with his term "White Advocacy". There's no reason the alt-right can't encourage and boost the signal of groups like Hoteps etc. Every people wants the space to be themselves. There's an existing American tradition that used to enable this called Freedom of Association, and we need to bring it back. People who don't want to hang out shouldn't have to, and people who want to should have that right. The government needs to stay out of deciding where people live, who their friends are, and who they do business with. There's 300 million people in this country, so no one is going to go without baked cakes or housing in current year. Identity politics is here to stay, and requires pragmatism.
Conservatism is dead because it's just losing in slow motion for the right, and everyone knows it. Tradition is actually capable of motivating direction and visions for the future while respecting the past.
Oliver Gonzalez
YES YOU FUCKING DO NERD
Isaiah Powell
Well isn't that kind of what I'm getting at by choosing new symbolism? Christianity is pretty deep-rooted into American psyche. It's a start.
Jaxson Kelly
Most ""christians"" here are fucking degenerate shit eaters and larping scum. Faith comes after community and nationalism. These traditions expectations have been stolen from us, earn them back, then comes Christ.
Brayden Allen
The swastikas & the white hoods have to go. Pretty much anything beyond that is cool. Iron crosses, Celtic crosses, black suns, normies don't know what any of that shit is. Nothing triggers their revulsion like the swastika & the KKK outfit.
Landon Stewart
A variation of that symbol is actively used by Portuguese Air force & Navy.
>Pic attached is portuguese air force logo, order of christ cross presence is very subtle there
>it's another "being a centrist who holds no principled stances makes you more intelligent by default" episode wew lad this rerun is getting tiring
Michael Barnes
Dei gratia...
I'm not sure we can regain anything without putting the Cross first.
Aaron Lewis
On another note, shouldn't we be doing psyops to split up BLM and Antifa against each other?
Historically speaking communists don't like black people. If they're at odds with each other all the better.
Divide and conquer.
Connor Richardson
No, you should use your national symbolism. American flags and such if you're in the USA. Makes it a much harder target.
Camden Harris
No, I am an Individualist who is strongly against the use of Force and Coerced Altruistic Sacrifice in the name of the Greater Good.
So I am a Libertarian.
Nathan Brown
I for one just advocate keeping your Nazism discreet, because we're trying to win over people in the middle. It's like why we put (((their))) names in parenthesis instead of just saying THOSE DIRTY KIKES.
Grayson Smith
fpwp
Caleb Smith
Crusader bullshit is deemed "Islamophobic" by the alt-left. You're just an older form of Nazi to them.
Our true path lies in the land of the rising sun!
SAYONARA REFUTO SEIDO! さよなら、レフトーセイド !
Noah Moore
Shilling my flag from the thread last night.
I think an oak is a good symbol since it readily brings to mind positive things: strength, endurance, longevity, etc. Also in that thread were plenty of Eagles, of course, and a Stag. Stags are a good choice since they traditionally kill (((snakes))). I also saw an emblem that had the liberty tree (a conifer) in a five pointed star. That one was pretty good.
Anthony Bailey
It's not about winning over (((them))) and their useful idiots, but about winning over conservatives after the naziism stunt.
Hunter Price
Crusader/Christianity, nods to Rome, and general Americana should be our symbolism, in my opinion. Drop the swastikas and confederate flags, for the time being.
Joseph Ross
I do like the idea of new flags.
David Cooper
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Mason James
Yeah, but the nation is not as christian as it once was. Encouraging Traditionalism will lead people to religion. But clearly the reverse is not guaranteed. You have to move where there's leverage.
Captcha:Helicopter
Nathan Ramirez
Here's that archived thread from last night.
Dominic Morgan
How about you don't stain other symbols and get your own, you unoriginal redditor fucks.
Angel Morris
>redditor
Son I was around before even the habbo raids began.
Christopher Cruz
10/10
Justin Adams
Yet you act like one of them. You use politically incorrect and historical symbolism in a politically correct, mean, but still politically correct and moderate ideology. I still have to find someone that genuinally believes in racial supremacy, in religion or any matter about traditional catholicism or national socialism or fascism outside of ironic memespouting in the alt-right.
Sebastian Wright
Saved for later reposting because this guy gets it Thanks bud
Lincoln Rogers
Nigger some of us aren't autistic and realize the social ramifications. I have a wife and kid I need to protect and raise and I can't do that by losing my livelihood, so I am going to work within the parameters that society has given us to work in. The alt right movement is the best chance we have and killing it with cancerous ideology and symbolism that Americans whole-heartedly reject is fucking retarded. This isn't a purity test about who's the best reactionary. This is real life and we have to do what we can.
I agree with using Americana. It's what will work best here. We need to foment American Nationalism with a focus on reversing demographic change.
Nolan Robinson
>don't use the symbol we hate goyim, it triggers us >let's unite under the banner of Christ and Christendom Someone already tried that. The cross triggers them too.
>Hitler speech: Christianity is the basis of the entire morality of Germany youtu.be/KCwG13K7TAo
This isn't about (((them))) it's about normal Americans who will hate anything nazi or kkk related no matter what.
You could spoonfeed them ideology they agree with wrapped in a swastika and they'd choose communism instead.
Asher Cooper
Amazing please screencap this.
Easton Clark
>We can all agree Kill yourself. Just fucking kill yourself.
Luis Ross
Bullshit, he was saying shit like this to appeal to Christians in the beginning. We all know he was a godless fuck and a psychopath.
We fucking rot in the past, we must get out if this natsoc idea and grow our own. Make West Great Again not send off millions of Europeans and Americans to war... Especially against each other.
Leo Wright
Don't you have to get to work so you can let Achmed take care of your wife?
National Socialism LOST. You cannot revive a dead ideology, only wrap it up in a new one.
Come on kraut, you're smarter than this.
Jayden Russell
pol is not cuckstian, stop memeing
Parker Gonzalez
Deserves to be noticed.
John Richardson
In addition to the nods to Rome, we should definitely infuse some British-isms into the core aesthetics. Even way back when we hated them, they've always been an enormous and influential part of our culture and identity. We've completely romanticized both the British & the Irish in our collective identity, and I think there's a lot of material there to utilize.
English people are automatically assumed to be intelligent and sophisticated. >James Bond, Oxford, the royal guard Scottish are assumed to be brave and passionate. >Braveheart, bagpipes Irish are the lovable drunks that everybody claims to be at least 1/16 of their heritage. >St.Patricks day, Confederate army
My country 'tis of thee should really be our national anthem, it's the perfect combination of paying tribute to & mocking the British that is a distinctly American experience. youtube.com/watch?v=eWJI0oA7fLM
British imagery always makes me feel nostalgic, and I don't have a single drop of Anglo blood in me.
Blake Hall
>Un ironically being a christcuck >Implying pol is a christian board >promoting your jewish sect on pol +Muh Christendom.
Go back to your pozzed church and bend your knees to dead kike on a stick, christ cuck.
Justin Scott
Even though Churchill was a bastard, tell me you don't feel something deep down inside from this: youtube.com/watch?v=87Xkr8z3lEo
Jonathan Richardson
THROW OUT ((((CHRIST))) BRING BACK THOR!!! WOTAN MIT UNS!!!!!!
Samuel Butler
>loving Britain >ever The first casualty of the British Empire was the English. Britain is an unnatural creation of 4 peoples forcibly merged into one, and is designed to serve the Jew and his needs. (((Britain))) has shoved a "one people" identity down our throats for centuries when the reality is, we aren't one people. Britain is a combination of 4 different peoples living under one banner. I'm an Anglo-Saxon Englishman, not a Briton.
Gavin Evans
I'm so fucking tired with all the crusad LARPers here. Christcucks are as cancer as the leftists.
CHRISTKEKS NEED TO STFU AND GTFO.
Oliver Morris
Wow, just did a search and it seems we like them even more than (((greatest ally))).
I understand that, I was just saying that most Americans would say they love all of Britain & Ireland. We don't really delve deep enough into the history to emphasize the conflicts between you guys. Like I said, it's an extremely romanticized view.
Reminds me of an encounter 2 months ago: >4th of july >was walking my dog in apartment complex >ran into 2 neighbor ladies, also dog walking >both in their 50's, one is English & one is Irish >1st gen immigrants, been here for decades
>nice ladies, always very friendly >start talking about the 4th, fireworks, USA, etc. >somehow I got onto politics, asked about UK >big fucking mistake.mp4
>mood IMMEDIATELY becomes tense >they both can barely control themselves >start snapping at eachother & bickering >"protestants in hell, fuck that old hag queen!" >"muh IRA scumbags, muh ulster!" >manage to cool it down after a bit & head home
Neither of them gave much thought about the hordes muzzies invading back there, but they both had plenty to say about that bullshit....blackpilled me pretty hard on your chances for the future tbqh.
Real talk: Your bickering will be the death of you.
Jacob Moore
>American Symbols The problem with that is that the US has no history you could draw from