Thread for Americans about Civil War

What is the feeling over there? How fucking close are we to popping off?

You guys seem closer to war than anyone in Europe and you have guns as well.

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=tkplPbd2f60
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

>How fucking close are we to popping off
LOL.....never going to happen

You remember Civil Rights movement? Nothing happened then
A civil war would be at the behest of states. No state is seceding for any reason

Try not being a shill, faggot

It's basically inevitable at this point. Leftists are 100% convinced that anyone against them is a literal Nazi, and therefore violence against them is completely justified.

Eventually someone from either side is going to bring a gun to one of these rallies and actually use it, and that point we will be in full War mode.

An attack against the MSM will happen before long as well.

We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children

youtube.com/watch?v=tkplPbd2f60

Brother, I want to say that it feels really grim, but that would be a burger-gripe. Wish a rare Syria-bro would pop in to call me a pussy right now. At the moment, we are close to Greek-tier, low-intensity Civil War. However, the Greeks are used to the "Parliament of the Streets". Americans tend to over-do everything. We will take this too far, too fast, I'm afraid. this is most apparent in the media, where even the once-sensible lefty outlets of standard, such as NPR and NYT are talking non-stop about how Trump "expressed HIS TRUE sympathies" as a Nazi yadda yadda. What is most disturbing: I think we all want it. No shit, I think the average American fantasizes about shooting it out with their neighbors. We're fuckt, bruv...

There won't be any civil war.

I'd emancipate the brown beauty and the redhead first.

dis

What are the brits saying about your bastard cousins across the pond?

>7 red stripes
>5 blue stripes
>random number of stars
>gay ass eagle carrying trash from land fill
>flag with no meaning

Stop being traitors. The liberals will be the rebels. We will defend this flag.

Imagine for a moment if someone say, shot le science meme negro or bill nye the shill guy, or someone else the left adores because that'd start it. Or someone plugging someone like Trump, or even poor old Ron Paul. Seriously we're like, one or two assassinations away from complete shitstorm levels. Just someone high enough profile. Especially right now with the confederate tensions as high as they are.

Ironically, all the guns make civil war less not more likely.

In Greece and places they can escalate slowly through fists and sticks and stones.

In the US, guns are going to come out at the first sign of real physical violence. It deters people unless they are really serious. If you start a fight with a random ass American you'd better be prepared to die.

Will the south rise again?

>Civil war between two groups of millenial larpers and retards while everyone else just memes around in facebook
>Also, one side has clearly more guns than the other side
Hmmmmmm

Fpbp

I'm stocking drinking water and canned food at a secure spot innawoods, have a usable hidden shelter I can ride out any turbulence in, nobody ever comes back there. The only antifa forces in my area are north about two hours in a liberal city surrounded by red.

>most coddled, lazy, pampered group of people in history are going to wage a war of insurrectionist attrition against the government
Laughable.

No war. They will just continue to remove monuments with impunity. Whenever a right wing protest comes up over the statues, the will cry "RACIST! NAZI! BIGOT!" which has proven to be very effective in scaring people off in the past.
Things were changing and people started to ignore it. Cville completely destroyed and chance of that happening again though. Nobody will want to be a racist nazi bigot while being demonized by international media who will plaster their faces on the front page for weeks

Hmmmm... Yeah, I agree that guns are a major deterrent. I think we can take the Bundee Ranch standoff (sp.?) in 2014 as a good example proving your point. However, I think what is really keeping Greece in a suspended state of civil war has more to do with a prolonged history of this sort of fighting, division, and paramilitaries. As a contrary example, we could look at BiH/former Yugo. Lots of guns there seemed to have added fuel to the fire. Though, I recognize that the arming of groups there was more nuanced, and often the work of political elites and their private armies of thugs, at least initially.

Zero chance at war.. there really aren't that many ppl part of this nazi thing.. and even less realistically willing to die for it. during the election a group of nigger tier whites online were targeted exploited and labeled the alt right.. they are being used and exploited to make whites look bad.. before theyd never label any killings a white man did as terrorism.. even the lefty who shot at the republicans wasnt.. but the alt right now is with no hesistation either. I dunno the purpose of this.. maybe to show whites they are capable of what they fear in other ethnicities.. maybe to make ethnicities dislike whites more.. whateger it is. Pol is being used to hurt the perception of whites worldwide. Shills on both sides are all over this place.

the left will keep antagonizing until the right starts shooting. after that who knows

We're the closest we've been since the 1960s, but we're still not even at the Weather Underground level.

The bigger issue is that the trajectory doesn't seem to have a reasonable stopping point any time soon.

The GOP congressional baseball game shooting could have turned into that incident very easily. But you still need two armed sides willing to do great violence. One side has arms, the other side has a willingness to do violence. S

Escalating violence is likely. Activists on both sides are likely to get killed as a result. But a full-blown civil war is much less likely.

First of all, every level of government in the US would be opposed to a civil war. This means there won't be any sort of draft, and the military won't involve itself, other than perhaps to serve as riot police.

Second, no militia will be able to round up enough recruits to truly fight any large-scale war. The vast majority of Americans don't want to fight a war anywhere, especially in their own homeland.

At most, we'll likely see an increase of violent riots. Probably a rise in domestic terrorism as well. But for the most part, it will only be gang warfare - one political extreme fighting the other.

If you're not just stirring the pot and are genuinely curious, here's my take.

The media and the traitor GOP are using this as leverage against Trump.
The groups themselves are mostly paid agitators with some smaller amount being actual black block who are okay with violence.
All of this seems manipulated (if not orchestrated) and the optics are meant to weaken Trump and scare Whites into shutting up.
That all said, I don't think we'll have a proper civil war as it's not grass roots enough on the left. The right is actually grass roots overall, people are tired and angry, but the left is mostly virtue signalling overall (they won't revolt) with some astroturfing from big entities like Soros.
At the end of the day, worst case scenario, say it does break out to civil war. The west coast is probably the only area of the country that has any kind of chance at trying to break away. If that goes down (west coast tries revolting), then you'll see rioting in areas like Chicago, black parts of the deep south, other urban centers, etc but those can be out down with ease and will likely burn themselves out.
Remember, the right hold the most territory, you won't see a proper civil war so long as the right is on the side of the federal govt. This is entirely limited to a culture war right now and that's probably where the left wants to keep it.

It's not. That's Europe's deal. We did it once and that's enough. We'll work it out.

If something happens to trump to remove him from office, I could see something big happening.

This is really the only way I can imagine we'd see violence at the levels of civil war.

>they are being used and exploited to make whites look bad
You retarded nigger. We look bad no matter what we do;

>just simply be white
YOU HAVE WHITE PRIVILEGE!

>claim you have POC friends
YOU ARE NOT DOING ENOUGH!

>only choice left is to be explicitly anti-white or do a 180
END WHITENESS!

We are absolutely fucked in the ass no matter what we do.

Aint happening, both sides are paid for by the same people right now.

This basically.
No one in my area gives a fuck. They have their views but most don't want any confrontation.
Now on kikebook, there is plenty of shit going down. But it's the same shit, Nazi this and Nazi that.

The events shown in the media are very contained.

You can't fight a war through facebook posts, the left has nothing.

it will never happen, as soon the monkeys from altright start chimping out, they will send the national guard and army and they will be wiped out, good riddance to those fucking niggers

>An attack against the MSM will happen before long as well.

Why groups of armed men have not already raided CNN headquarters is beyond.

Not gonna happen.

Just because there are a lot of videos of larping faggots (on both sides) fighting each other with sticks does not mean we're going to go to a civil war. Americans aren't that polarized yet, the majority of Americans are centrists and even though they have disagreements with each other, they'll leave it at that. For now, that's what it is.

If fringe militias form and start performing politically motivated terrorist attacks (be it the right bombing the left or the left bombing the right), the higher ups will keep our stability by going to war with North Korea. That'll keep our minds off this trivial BS.

I think the real reason we haven't hit weather underground levels yet is the control of information these days. Most leftist scum are either afraid to, or too stupid to make bombs. The 60s and 70s were a lot more wide open with chemical purchases, and nothing was tracked digitally like it is today. In some places you could buy fucking dynamite at your local hardware store with an ID and a signature. The leftist "revolutionaries" these day have 0 spine unless they are marching the streets in a pack. The ones with some backbone like the bernout who shot the congressman, are inept. They have been preaching peace love and equality without gaining the means to enforce it themselves. The left has been shouting gun control forever. It hasnt done them any favors.

as of right now, it's not gonna happen unless something big happens. unless trump exposes the deep state, or there's a huge right-on-left (or vice versa) terrorist attack, it's unlikely. but if it does happen, people are certainly more polarized than they have been in a while, the groundwork has definitely been laid

they have demoralization tactics by bringing down statues while the police stand by, making it seem like their cause is on the side of authority.

This

I just posted the following in another thread
>
A lot of the time I think Sup Forums has some good reflections on society and such but then in any sort of civil war or race war thread I'm always jolted back to reality when faced with the immense amount of delusion that runs rampant in these threads

Anybody who thinks American Nationalists need a new flag needs to be necked. Theres already a flag, its called Old Glory.

There will be no civil war dickhead.

maybe a couple of mass shootings, but nothing out of the ordinary

Most of the board is now Trump LARPers these days, but I wonder if people will ever wake up and realize that the real threat is just playing the lady and right against each other. If you get poor whites and poor minorities all in a free for all, they'll never notice that the rich take more and more from your every year.

It's the same old song and dance as has been repeated throughout history.

Oh hey a sane perceptive person wattahp?

We'll probably see some militia have a stand off with police over one of those confed monuments being torn down. Someone will get shot, nat guard will roll in, and all hell will break loose in a matter of hours. It'll be nipped in the bud or we'll have some sort of no go zone in a major city filled with militia men.

FPBP

This Civil War bullshit are liberals hating white people.

IMPORTANT

99.999% of Americans go about life as usual, and do not concern themselves with the actions of a relative few.

Last week was a super slow news cycle, and any type of civil unrest is going to boost news ratings, so they cover it.

I lived in ferguson during the riots, and even within the towns boundaries only bussiness districts were affected, residential untouched. Out of months of coverage, only three nights gave me any concern, and it was strange walking down quiet streets to come home to CNN up in arms like the whole town is being burned down. Its just hype, this is the week before college starts, its notoriously "rowdy"

>teachers and kids are starting their first week of school
>all retail/restraunts are open, except for maybe a half dozen in charlottesville
> hospitals treat patients
>scientist do science
>engineers be engineering
>farmers farm
>society at large is unnaffected

Demonstrations can only be violent for a few days MAXIMUM. Once people are getting injured the National guard comes in and they are extremely effective party crashers

American civil war is nothing but a meme, we simply have it too good here

The Kali Yuga ends in 2025.

I'm locked and loaded, literally just waiting now for the spark to light. I will either help save this country or forever feast with my father's in the halls of Vahalla. Either way I win.

This

Now there's a flag you don't see often.

I'd also add, to follow the money. No major corporate interest in America wants a civil war, aside from say CNN. No meaningful political structure in the entire country wants it.

When the National Guard says the party's over, it's time to go home.

Reminder: The only people pushing for civil war on this board are either globalist shills, kikes or indoctrinated retards who are unaware they are pushing a globalist kike agenda. Civil war and unrest in America is the wet dream of groups like ADL, AIPAC, The Hasbara, JIDF, Israel, Soros’ Open Society or some other filthy and dirty zionist organization that pays dumb niggers to shill here.

They are pushing for step 3 Crisis.

1. Demoralization
2. Destabilization
3. Crisis
4. Normalization

"redpilled" people screaming for RACE WAR NOW are just as dumb as socialistic liberal retards. Without Law & Order we would be crumbling into a war torn shit hole and vulnerable to regime shifts. If we actually had a civil war we could be attacked by foreign countries, we could lose many of our rights, and many people could die pointless deaths.

Nobody wants a civil war but people who seek to destroy America. Deescalation and diplomacy are what you should be supporting. The far left is pushing to shut down diplomacy, escalate the situation and create a conflict. A conflict without discussion and diplomacy will only lead to violence.

BLM, Antifa, BAMN, etc... are attempts at inciting a crisis. So far tension is building and people are becoming more and more radical and unreasonable. These are funded organized movements with the goal of growing into something that takes on a life of it's own.

We'll talk it out, pop.

Be civil, brohammed.

I maintain that we will likely see sectarian violence and general societal collapse rather than a "traditional" civil war. Right now we have two separate overall visions of America running simultaneously (has been the case since the beginning of the culture war in the 60s, but at it's most prominent now). If it can be simplified to a simple statement, one side believes we've elected orange Hitler and his merry band of racists who perpetuate white American empire, while the other believes we've elected a possible last hope against a growing and utterly corrupt system.

Within both of those "sides" are several smaller factions, varying in degrees in extremism, who are *loosely* bonded together over opposition against the other half of society (left vs white supremacy, right vs PC totalitarianism). As society breaks down further and violence ramps up, both of these coalitions will break into factional infighting, the seeds of which we are seeing with the multitude of responses to what happened in Charlottesville. Scream "it's just shills" all you want - the right is nowhere near consensus on how to view what happened, and the first real cracks have emerged. What really could bond Nazis, libertarians, ethno nationalists, civic nationalists, anarchists, monarchists, minarchists, fascists, etc?

CONTINUED in next post

People have been shot already, nothing will change without removing all members of congress , destroying the fed and getting the "news" channels off the air which no one is willing to do.

>could
It's a matter of would actually, and it involves the entire world. Russia becomes the single competent nuclear power with you out of the picture. They have proven to be the worse tyrant with Ukraine.

Beyond basic ideological strife is the fact that there are indeed several "behind the scenes" factions who are manipulating events, news, information, and people for their own ends both domestically and abroad. Domestically we have several ideologues who want to replace the current democratic order with their own version of utopia (communist/fascist). We have the intelligence communities/deep state influencing things for their own ends. We have corporations also guiding domestic policy for their own profit margins.

Most importantly, being that we are the premier superpower (for now), every other country eyes us as the number threat to their sovereignty long term (even our "stalwart allies") and rightfully so - we have the American agenda to promote and push. As such foreign agents (Russian, Chinese, Israeli, Saudi, European, etc) all have vested interests in manipulating American events and policy for their own geopolitical aims. For China and Russian, that would be an American collapse into irrelevancy such that they would have room to emerge as the premiere power with all the abilityh to promote their own agendas. So they fund and back these extremist groups much like the CIA funded "moderate rebels" in Syria and beyond.


Tl;dr civil war will happen, but won't be clear defined sides like north and south, rather it will be a factional bloodbath that will collapse the American empire for good.

Worst that will happen is a couple of cities damaged from rioting. To think the leftists would ever march their asses into red states is foolish. Any "Civil War" would start and end within liberal cities. It wouldn't last long either, most of them would get tired after their Starbucks wears off and go home.

I saw Civil War coming way back in 2014. I live out here in a rural community. Talking to all my neighbors, we all expect war. I'm to the point, I'd have no problem killing leftists. These people are parasites.

Washington State will turn red with the blood of liberals. Screencap this.

Also, any Civil War here now is going to happen in the cities. Leftists are way too big of faggots to ever start trying to attack anything but their own neighborhoods.

Why do niggers never go to rich white neighborhoods when they rampage? Same thing is going to happen with this upcoming war.

Seconded my Washington bro. Seattle was my hometown and I was bluepilled liberal through all my life. After seeing how they destroyed my home, I want all the Marxists at the end of a rope.

[spoiler]Must get fit and acquire qt ethnic waifu before society collapses[/spoiler]

Good read user 10/10

I don't know. Think about all those guns in Charlottesville and not one of them went off (as far as I know). When things got violent, who would have expected the weapon to be a dodge and not an AR-15? I think there's still a chance of a slower buildup with all the homemade riot gear we're seeing alt-righters and antifa bring into the mix. Unless one side escalates to even more serious weaponry like knives, I don't think the guns are going to go off.

>Zero chance at war.
All it would take is a few 1000 people starting to hit soft targets and the economy and welfare state collapses
Remember when they had to shut down Boston looking for a couple idiots with pressure cookers
There is no way this country will still be around in 20 years

They will come to the rich parts in great numbers if they think the police are too busy elsewhere

My brother, hopefully one day we will fight next to each other on the front lines. Godspeed user.

>collapse the American empire for good
Good synopsis; except I disagree with the "American empire" assertion. I've read this in other people's work and my contention is the US has not yet fulfilled its imperial capacity. Niall Ferguson makes the argument much better.

the public is already against our existence, you're not going to be helping anything

it's clearly going to happen, along with martial law and a bunch of other bullshit because the real enemy is the corrupt government and this just further divides people making them easier to control

people who actually give a shit and don't want to kill each other over bullshit should probably consider starting a massive project to build an island (perfectly legal and possible), declare it a sovereign nation (also perfectly legal and possible), and rebuild away from all the bullshit... let the elites have this shithole, and let people who think killing each other will fix anything (it won't) kill each other

fuck all of it

It has already started.

We're in a new era of war that we haven't even seen before. The public rallies are now battlegrounds. No one is going to these things with the peaceful intent in mind.

With the Durham statue being destroyed, things are now escalating.

Then let it happen. The rich whites sold us out and continue to virtue signal. Maybe it will sober up some of those who can be deprogrammed.

Another Olympia guy reporting in to say that all liberals in my area will die on the day of the rope, which I pray for every morning.

Best comment I've heard re: US Civil War: One side has 3 billion rounds of ammo, the other is still trying to figure out what bathroom to use.

it won't, it's an open invitation for martial law, further government control, further loss of liberty etc and less allies on either side against the real enemy

the government could easily flip a civil war in their favour and america wouldn't collapse, americans will just be living in worse conditions

it all depends on the economy really, and that is impossible to anticipate ahead of time. Trump presidency + Media support of radical leftism + economy turmoil could lead to wide scale violence and fighting, maybe not quite a civil war, but pretty big

If a 2008/9 crash occurred in the next few months we'd see something

Thanks anons. Honestly I wish I was completely wrong, and I hold out hope that that will be the case. But as the days roll on, I don't see a tenable peaceful solution to the growing problems we face.

Also, any recommended works by Niall I should read?

one of the most important strategies of warfare is using your enemies for ammo and weapons

if your enemy has plenty for you to use that's a good thing

I look forward to martial law under president trump; he can actually physically remove the dark circles that plague our society and maybe the politicians will actually grow a pair of leadership instead of identity politics and oppression olypmpics social pandering.

lol dat invented flag

this sure is going to be the next confedarate flag and you will become famous as the glorious inventor :^)

Thinking more about this; historically, the strong hand of a tyrant/dictator/ruler is necessary to govern splintered and factious populations. I suspect as the populace tires of ongoing unrest, they will be more willing to accept a single authoritarian ruler. Perhaps this is the Left's end-game and they are pissed because they got Trumped. Either way, it may be likely that normies will simply tire of contention and accept a stronger leader at the expense of loss of freedom and some personal independence.

Yawn. You could not be any more naive.

martial law would be terrible for everyone, and the president is just a figurehead regardless of who's in charge the same agends plays out

the things that change are just passion plays that get people riled up, but are ultimately meaningless when you look at the bigger picture

voting is just a pacification and division tool that gives those in power a better grip on that power

Civil war will never happen. The US is one of the wealthiest nations in the world, even our poorest people have excess amounts of food and housing.

On top of that many in the US are apathetic to voting and don't care about politics outside of liking a post they may agree with from face value.

CIVIL WAR WILL NEVER HAPPEN, NOTHING WILL CHANGE. THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS HOW MUCH STUFF IS SOLD/BOUGHT

This. Despite knowing that war is hell and not at all pleasant and with full understanding that it could cost us everything, I desperately want to kill these communist, self-loathing pieces of shit. When I saw that Challenger running over those fucking (literal) cocksuckers, it filled me with such glee and satisfaction. I only wish the body count had been higher.

I don't even like Nazis, but these communist shitbags (at all levels) are a clear existential threat to our culture and way of life, so if the Nazis scumbags are the first line to get into with these fucking assholes, so be it.

So I'd say it's inevitable, and don't kid yourself OP, the conversation may be more suppressed in Europe, the rage on the right is possibly even greater there than here.

>guns are going to come out at the first sign of real physical violence
Yes, all these recent Antifa brawls ended in shootouts didn't they

It wont happen because leftists can only scream and riot, and that isnt enough for conservatives to start an entire war that will destroy the nation.

Conservatives are the ones with the guns but also the last ones to want to pull the trigger

Liberals hate guns, but if handed one during one of those riots or rallies Ive no doubt theyd start shooting and threatening

Liberals feel a need for government dick up their ass because they cant control themselves without it, they need to be held down and fucked just to behave.

True, and I feel that will be a response given by the government. My issue is though, that even our current government is not united in any real way - we see this with various mayors and governors openly defying the current administrations orders on things like deportations and sanctuary cities. Our gov and military will likely split in the case of further escalating violence.

Plus, any overt attempts at totalitarianism could invite a "peacekeeping" mission by the UN and other "concerned countries" to ostensibly combat a tyrannical regime while pushing perrsonal agendas.

Niall Ferguson is like a pol posterchild; grew up in South Africa during apartied and bemoans the day the British left it to "independence." Books include:

Ascent of Money
House of Rothschild
Empire
Colossus

Are you kidding m8? Do you seriously think I'm about to pick up a gun and start shooting at my neighbors? Do you seriously think my neighbors might shoot me?

We're not even remotely anywhere near the conditions for that kind of thing.

You all do realize that a civil war would at the very least lead to the end of the United States as the world Hegemonic power? Don't get me wrong I hate these leftist traitors too but we should resort to democratic means whenever possible. The best case scenario for civil war is the emergence of an Augustus to end the corruption of the republic and guide us to the imperial period.

The left is basically screeching like the hysterical retards they are

Far right is essentially saying "do it faggot" and chomping at the bit to bash some commies in

The other 70% of the country is confused some leaning towards the lefties some leaning towards the right and a solid chunk of idiotic middle aged women that don't know shit but are just emotionally stressed that bad things are happening that they cannot understand.

The left is foolish, they will lose and it will be terrible for them

You may not be (and rightfully so), but when one of your ideologically possessed neighbors threatens you for not following their vision, it's only reasonable to then pick up a gun and defend yourself... And so on

The only way I see a happening in US is if it happens from top to bottom, starting with a state going rogue or a military coup.

You are naive, not to think there are a type of people who would kill you and your neighbor and take your stuff. A special kind of stupid.

Most civil wars have very little of the population engaged to any one side.

As far as I know one of the most ideologically possessed neighbors I have has a big sign that says "end gun violence now." Somehow I don't think that person is going to go sneaking around shooting people.

There's also some family that used to have a little Russian flag planted on the front lawn. That thing went away when the MUH RUSSIA narrative went full retard. I hope they don't think we hate them or anything.

>we should resort to democratic means
What do you think we have been doing for years now?

>me and my neighbours are the only people alive in the US
We'll see what you do when outsiders come around asking if you oppose faggotry and niggers.

You don't know that, you fucking cunt and I was asking a mere fucking question.

Civil War 2 soon lad. Two factions, two ideologies, and they're well defined by land borders and states just like the old north and south. Now we all kick back and enjoy the escalation.

voting is just a pacification and division tool, if it gave people any real power it wouldn't be something the masses would be allowed to do

the same underlying agenda plays out regardless of who's in office

nothing wrong with sucking cock, and regardless of who wins this war everyone loses

i have mixed feelings about the open defiance and just how split things actually are

to an extent it all seems like bread and circuses to push everything, like you said

i think ultimately everyone is probably fucked

that being said i see an entire generation of over educated, under utilized people who could easily have a ton of value in a different society not ruled by corruption

which leads me to believe that a mass movement to build an island and declare it a sovereign nation (both perfectly legal) and starting over is probably the best anyone can hope for while everything else goes to shit

i think a revolution is necessary, but i don't see it ... leaving to another country isn't an answer either with the way everything is everywhere

so fuck it all