1. We know that there are large numbers of white people not to the far left who are uncomfortable or frustrated with the way things are going in their countries with immigration and increasing anti-white sentiment
2. Yet we see most white people maintaining the status quo and keeping their concerns and frustrations bottled up. Why?
3. Because currently the only choices they see on offer are continue to support the status quo of the individualist , multicultural society where white identity or sense of tribe is strictly taboo OR join far right groups who do things like Hitler salutes, say things like "jews will not replace us" , almost always descend into violence and get fired.
4. between these choices the latter is unpalatable to normie whites and so they feel compelled to stick to the former , even though they have concerns and frustrations about immigration and racial tensions that won't go away.
5. We need to do two things:
6. First of all we need to show strong evidence of the the status quo of individualist multiculturalism with white identity not allowed as being not good for them and unfair towards them. We need to undermine their faith in the status quo.
7.Secondly we need to offer a wider range of choices for normie whites to support. ones closer to the middle that will be less unpalatable to the majority of normies.
Laying the ground for an effective white identity movement
if you've got a good idea on a middle ground im all ears chief
Of these two objectives, I believe the first is more important. We need to show ordinary whites that the voices of unease in the back of their heads are right. the status quo is not working as it should anymore.
And I think one of the most important things to point out is that no one else is playing by the same rules as white people. With every other ethnic group it is either implicitly accepted or openly stated that non-white ethnicities are allowed to have a sense of identity and a sense of tribe together and it is justified and natural for them to have a preference for each other and want to further the interests of their group while it is openly denounced as racist and heinous for white people to do the same.
>formatting your post as a numbered list for no reason
CWC-tier autism
We need to show normal white people the evidence of the fact that every other race of people has a strong sense of identity and is using that to support their race or nationality.
We need to show them that many non-white groups , particularly blacks, in general resent white people. We need to show that this is not just a handful of individuals but large swathes, signfiicant fractions of black people resent or have animosity to some degree towards white people. this needs to be shown both by hte large numbers of twitter and facebook posts (made by real people under real names openly showing their blanket dislike or white people) and by the "media figures" and leaders and celebrities where possible since these will be a stronger indicator of a large trend (if even their leaders openly dislike white people then it can't just be outliers).
When we show normie white people that 1. there is an enemy force and 2. that the current rules they are upholding are unfair to them and no one else is bothering to uphold them, THEN we will get white people start to abandon upholding and enforcing the individualist multicultural status quo where white identity is not allowed the way every tother identity is, but instead move towards a group of white people who are happy and proud to have a sense of identity and tribe with their race and pursue our race's best interests.
The most important thing you can do for the white race is keep your own life in order. Start with yourself. You must be competent, reliable, hardworking, and, above all, happy. Do people in your life trust and respect you? What does your family think of you? Are you capable of raising children? Racial politics doesn't have to be the only factor of your life. And if you can't achieve such things for your self, then the chances are very high that you are not ready to be a political activist, either online or in real life. Because how can you make a difference for the race, for the lives of many, if you can't even make anything of your own, individual life? How can you be a part of an effective organization, when you can't even be effective in your own life?
Always remember: we live in first world countries and have opportunity that most people born on this planet do not. Things aren't as good for us as they were for our parents. But billions of people in the third world would still kill to have the opportunities that you do right now. So take care of yourself! Work your ass off, everyday, to build a good life for you, and for your family. Spend your time wisely, and keep your real life priorities in order. Work hard, but also do fun and wholesome things with real people in real life. That's very important. Nothing on the internet should ever take away from your real life
Absolutely the right idea, OP. However, I doubt you're going to find the right kind of people here. The next step of WN is private organization. And that's really the problem.
This. Jews police the middle ground and lay down beaucoup rules there. "Don't say anything about Jews" "Whites, don't say anything about non-whites" "Men, don't say anything about women"
So the middle ground is, wear a fashy haircut and a smirk and say nothing. Live in a whitopia and say nothing. Etc.
the only way to go forward is with ZERO compromise. Never give an inch to the homo's, trannies, sjw and feminists. Not one fucking inch. Doesnt matter what kind of meak and fragile bullshit alliances you think you can forge. You will do much more harm by letting even one dust particle of these degenerates in than just staying 100% true to your ideals.
racial politics are extremely important, its called selection of whom you associate with. Its good to find people who are also good and to get approval from them, through hard work. But it is not good to find niggers and then try to get approval from them, with smoking pot and criminality. Fuck you faggot.
Plz dont make this picture related to Nazis I love this picture and even have a small print in my wallet everywhere I go.
White racialism must be pushed in the middle ground, the high ground, and the low ground.
forgot pic related. There is always some nigger jew coming into threads like this and going "well you need to racemix and appear to be tolerant"
NO YOU FUCKING DONT FUCK YOU. You avoid the degens like the plague until its safer to express yourself.
There are other ways to undermine the status quo.
This is not meant to be an exhaustive or complete strategy.
What I want is to highlight the the mindset we should have if we want to mobilise the majority of normie whites.
1. undermine faith in the multicultural individualist status quo where white identity is taboo but other racial identities and tribalism is accepted or encouraged
2. create a wider range of space , a broader church for white people to subscribe to so they don't feel that the only option on this side is alt-right white nationalism . Specifically, more moderate options which would still be a huge improvement over status quo . e.g. ukip
Inspiration should be taken more from Jared Taylor than say richard spencer for example.
A majority of men voted for Trump.
Among Jews, married Jewish men went for Trump. Amazing.
Men are getting the picture about the Great Replacement, but if you think women can be made to change their feelings through logic and evidence...
>Its good to find people who are also good and to get approval from them, through hard work. But it is not good to find niggers and then try to get approval from them, with smoking pot and criminality.
I don't know how you drew >hurr niggers! from that pasta. But yes, our goal is to make use of all resources, human and material, to meet our interests. There are africans who can and would help us, and it is insecurity driven idiocy to insist on promoting conflict with all of them, indiscriminately, regardless of that. Get over your jew-instilled fixation on negroes!
>private organization
So much this. We need aristocrats, not commoners.
What about Jews who are on your side, it sucks because I don't know if we're gonna end up in the oven or not if we win?
>defending jews in any way whatsoever
>turning criticism towards >reee women!
I'm an Italian living in London: I reached already to many confliced men, those who are almost on board but are stil lafrai of the labels an the usualinsults (and no, I do not beliee fascism and nazism is the way: there are good ideas in both systems, but they are flawed, and we must create something linked to them but at the same time different, and also we cannot forget the stigma those names bring with them and those who associate themselves with them).
There will be no movements, as God is acting.
>Please trust some jews goyim
Very hard to do at this point, unfortunately. Form a jewish organization that opposes white genocide and/or exposes the holocaust. Then we can talk about trust
The Sup Forums cult of identity is a jewish creation to promote fanaticism, disorganization, and demoralization here. Sup Forums has become, with their help, a circus of morons. There's no organization here, or anywhere. That's the problem. Keep your eyes peeled, guys. We need to get together irl in groups we can trust. That's the next step. An entire world of difference.
Marching and protesting and fighting with idiots in the street accomplishes nothing. Politics is about accumulating influence and resources.
You do Jew. You have your own separate tradition cut out for you. I encourage Jews to study their heritage and culture, but in the same respects white europeans should also be encouraged to study their own respective heritage and culture. A "jew on our side" should be impersonally detached to our rebirth and nothing more.
At the moment this is spit balling. The only scale on which what I've suggested is actionable is in private one on one conversations with close friends whom you trust.
converting normie whites who are frustrated with sjwism into taking the plunge to openly acknowledging that they feel an affinity and sense of identity with their ethnic group and that is ok and should be encouraged and we should work to progress our people like everyone else.
However I hope other people end up seeing the way way I'm framing the problem , and what main obstacles that need to be tackled are.
the biggest reason that whites aren't supporting white interests is because of their loyalty to the individualist, color-blind, promised multiculalist , status quo utopia and because the only option they see for exercising their white identity and advocating for white interests is unpalatable.
We need to both push them off the status quo by various means (I gave two tactics but there are likely more) AND give them more attractive alternatives for causes to support, mindsets to adopt, etc.
I think once we formalise the need to create push factors, disillusioning them with individualist, "colorblind" (but only for whites) multiculturalism and making it seem unattractive or unfair.
and the need to create "pull factors" , palatable or attractive alternatives.
THEN the specific tactics and implementable , scalable course of action can be determined.
bamp.
listening.
nationalreview.com
please read
The government spending in the USA is not sustainable. We need to have the support networks in place to help white families before the next economic collapse occurs.
>white families aren't capable of helping themselves
the negro does not work, he has no capacity for foresight, be barely is capable of grasping for past and future events. You fucking shill.
whitelocust.wordpress.com
You dont associate yourself with lowlifes and junkies and neither do you do that with niggers and jews.
Well I can answer you personally my opinion and answer you what I think will happen in general.
What I think will happen in general is that white identity movements will have to become more moderate and mainstream like UKIP or Bannon or Danish right wing parties. There is plenty of room for jews there.
as for me personally, you may have detected from my posts that I'm not in favour of nazism in current white identity movements. Now it remains undeniably true that a lot of the agitators who spread cultural diseases like white guilt, like cultural marxism were and are jews . But it is clearly pig-headed and inaccurate to tarr them all with the same brush. And many in europe who are most concerned about islam are jews.
Getting into the more theoretical side of identity, strictly speaking I think that jews are in the end semites and my definition of white is "indigenous to europe" so I don't consider jews strictly white, but pragmatically any jew who wants to consider themselves white and is in favour of white identity, not letting niggers overrun us, etc. should be welcomed gladly.
So in the end I don't want you in the oven , your people in the oven and I don't think that the mainstream of white identity movements in the future will either.
>converting normie whites who are frustrated with sjwism into taking the plunge to openly acknowledging that they feel an affinity and sense of identity with their ethnic group and that is ok and should be encouraged and we should work to progress our people like everyone else.
Not a hard sale to make. There is just a lack of reliable, motivated people, and the means for those people to connect with one another irl. Very hard to go out and recruit in today's society. You risk your education, your career, your friendships and family relations, etc. That's the problem: we aren't able to organize
I read through a good portion of that and I have a hard time believing it was written by anyone but a Sup Forums browser... Maybe someone from here is a defense attorney but I doubt it.
>the negro does not work, he has no capacity for foresight, he ...
Cringe. Dude, I understand this. I fucking get it. There's not going to be an army of negro white nationalists. But that's not the issue. The simple fact of the matter is that when you go around compulsively launching off about "niggers," you turn alot of mainstream whites away. Because you sound fucking insecure, and probably are. It's not about blacks. It's about us. There's a reason they've been put on a victimized pedestal in public and then used to goad and humiliate you in private. That's the trick.
>but if you think women can be made to change their feelings through logic and evidence
This!
Logic and evidence does not work with women. You need to trigger a strong emotianal reaction.
Look for instance how women reacted to #DraftOurDaughters.
>The simple fact of the matter is that when you go around compulsively launching off about "niggers,"
that is not what I implied, what I implied is the avoidance of niggers and jews. You avoid them as much as you can, but other harmful tactics like bullying against the degens and lower races are also okay, if you can get away with those things.
You seem to think you're at the head of a private organization where you can make decisions like that. You're not. Nobody here is. This is a completely public board that anybody and their dog can come in read. You have to work on that level. You, and Sup Forums in general, need to understand that. You're a smart guy, but you need to get your act together before you start playing politics. You're not in this for real. You're not really considering what actually needs to be done to actually make an actual difference. You're just larping on Sup Forums, and nothing real will come of it.
>15
You've reached 14 people. Let's say one is a jewshill. Of the remaining 13, chances are 100% of them already agree with your fundamental ideas, and then 0% of them are going to actually write them down or do anything with them. This is what I mean by real organization. A public internet imageboard is just not going to cut it.
Yeah. I mean I'm not fully "into" this. my first priorities are my job , making money, self-improvement, finding a good woman to be the mother of my kids.
but I wanted to put this idea of pushing off the status quo and increasing the space of alternatives out there.
maybe it will change the way we think about recruiting and some others will act more effectively or come up with good ideas.
It's crucial we get the normies in the middle who have concerns and the main things preventing them are their current loyalty and faith to the status quo and the lack of palatable alternatives for them.
>huuurr women are inferior to us I hate women
The fact that people here can't see through this obviously jewish divide and conquer bullshit is why jews own the white race.
>my first priorities are my job , making money, self-improvement, finding a good woman to be the mother of my kids.
And encouraging others to do the same whenever possible! Don't forget that part
Not flying swastika flags like a bunch of mouth-breathing autists would be an excellent first step.
>go to a new job
>in this new job there are some niggers
>some white guys
>some misc
choose the white guys to befriend, avoid niggers. It can be as simple as that. In the longer term if you secured your value with them as a worker you can even start to talk shit about the niggers and get them removed. Its ethno nationalism 101. And when another white guy joins the company, befriend him, or at least help him. Then if he fills that spot, a chance is less likely for a nigger to be there.
as a result the company will also become more efficient and better at making money with no ethnic conflict taking place there. Racial harmony is good.
Nice try here. It is almost convincing with the flag.
re: infighting
I wanted not to mention infighting at all because it's almost a self-fulfilling prophecy.
my views are different from say Richard Spencer, but I think the solution to that is to not interfere with them and do your own thing and let them do theirs.
Because infighting is SUCH a harmful waste of time and energy.
Think about how much the alt-right cannibalised each other into the alt-right and alt-lite. I'm certain that a significant amount of that antagonism was stoked by shills because it worked so well for them for us to fight between ourselves.
I really hope that whether you're centre right or far right you'll agree that the most healthy thing is for us each to do our own thing and we'll let the results speak, whoever's ideas are the best will grow more , instead of trying to change the other and bring them in line and causing both sides to waste time in bickering.
if either side centre-right or far right tries to start bickering the other side should respond "don't waste time on infighting , it hurts us both and wastes our energy. you do you and I'll do me and we'll see which gets more followers "