Alt-Right 2.0 - Reformation edition

Alright listen up fuckers because this is how things are going to work from now on. Either you follow these instructions or your movement dies. The Alt-right needs to reject Neo-Nazis, and White Supremacists. White Nationalism is fine, we can easily sell this to anybody with more than a couple of brain cells until the cows come home.

National Socialists you can keep your ideology when it comes to government systems but you need to drop the TOXIC branding. Call yourselves State Socialists or something from now on. It means the exact same thing but is free from any negative associations... Or come up with another term. I don't really care either way because I'm not personally a "State Socialist".

You're never again to paint Hitler or the Nazis in a positive light. This is an albatross, and you will always have absolutely nothing to gain from this. I wouldn't even waste your time trying to explain to people how "Yah know, the Nazis really weren't that bad". You're wasting everybody else's and your own time on this and you're better off sticking to tactics that you know everybody can get behind(e.g. Whites deserve to maintain their interests in their own country and not be subject to genocide). You can still advocate on behalf of whites and oppose Jewish manipulators but you are NOT allowed use the utterly useless and counter-productive Nazi and "Fascist" branding. You are State Socialists now if you must be and you are Alt-Right(new umbrella term TBD) for all intents and purposes.

Anyone that has a problem with or violates these new rule will from hereon be deemed a shill or mentally unfit and will be cast out of this reformed Alt-Right movement.

>Again, this thread is for the reformation of the Alt-Right. Start working on some new aesthetics and new names.

Other urls found in this thread:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_conservatism
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

I'm going repeat this again right away. There will be ZERO Neo-Nazis or Nazi LARPers in this reformed version of the Alt-Right. Nobody wants you here so FUCK OFF

always bet on A LEAF to make the most cringeworthy thread of the night lmfao

These threads started last night and all 4 of them reached the post limit. Nice try though

I care about America.

National sovereignty first.

HEHE HEIL HITLER

maybe a american national socialism? :^)

>Europoor ideas

LAST NIGHT'S THREADS:

Don't listen to the shills. Keep reposting, Jesusleaf. This is the best shot.

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>The Alt-right
The moment you accept a label is the moment you submit to the power of the Media to appoint "leaders" like Spencer as proxies to represent you.

There were a few terms bandied about in the threads from last night aside from State Socialism. If you want to look through the old threads here you might see something that you like.

For this thread I think we need to work on a new umbrella term.. Like, the Alt-Right is a term for several different right-right idealogies and even some more left-wing ones such as National Socialism.

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HEHEHEHE :3 :3 loooollo
gas the bikes!

Yes. I think that muh constitution is the best backbone we can ever hope to rest on. The only thing that I would change would be the part of the 1st Amendment that grants protection to religions. This is where you get people tolerating Islam or Marxism from. You would need to add in a caveat that this isn't the case if your religion goes against or violates the Constitution

Americanism

National Libertarians

The people's aristocracy/republic

Separatists Federation

Anti Jews Crews

what about hitlerism? hehe

These are okay. I'm wondering if we could go with a name that doesn't describe a political idealogy? The Alt-Right label is a little bit like this.. Or kind of like the Golden Dawn in Greece.

just call it western socialism. You want to combine socialist principles with all the great things we've learned from western civilization.

It obviously won't work, but now at least you have to actually read a book to defend it, AND you're no longer LARPing as neo-nazis in public

You jest but this is what we might as well go with if we accept Neo-Nazis and LARPers going forward. This is more or less how the general public views the Alt-Right at this point and time.

I would take this to the other chan, if you know what I mean. They're more serious and that's what the other board is for. This one is filled with shitposters and shills so you'll never get anything done.

No, alt right, fashy haircuts, 80s music and frogs are all staying!

>Alt-Right
Seriously though. You need to drop the name. Call yourself "European-American conservative youth" and just continue like before. And drop people like Spencer. It doesn't matter if he is CIA or not, he is incompetent, and his website altright.com is just full of shitposting and Sup Forums memes.

boil down white nationalism to what its about, cruising the other thread there were some good ideas: there isn't anything supremacist about a gentlemanly agreement that we don't want anything to do with one another.

Out of my ideas I think something along the lines of Separatists is the best line. It doesn't have to be the name of the nation if new state lines are being drawn, just the canoe to get us on the other side. If it sounds too larpy like golden dawn, although cool, is too abstract.

unfortunately white nationalist is dirtied, more or less.

branding is the most important first step. What you're about rather than ideology should be most important though, I agree.

This is actually waayyy better than my State Socialism term. The Western ascept of it takes into account the ehtnic composition of the West.

Ehtnic Socialists was another one that came up..

Also, it was mentioned that White Nationalism is a pretty toxic term at this point so we could consider the term Ethnic Nationalism.. I think like Jews already say that they want this for themselves.. So anyone would have a hard time calling you a Nazi for this when almost everybody else is desirous of it.

gas the bikes
pace war now

Yes to all of those except for Alt Right. We're stupidly hamstringing ourselves if we keep this.

Don't call it socialism if you live in America.

I don't even think we should be called the "alt-right" anymore. For Christ's sake, isn't that the term Hillary made up for us? And either way if we label ourselves alt-right people are just automatically going to associate us with Spencer and the like.

Fuck off kike. Sup Forums is a natsoc board heil Hitler.

The "new right" is a term that already exists.

We're trying to come up with another name in this thread. Ctrl+F my tag. Already covered this

>Alright listen up fuckers
Same thread every night. Fuck off kike, we don't need what you're selling fucking shill trying to co-opt the movement. SAGED you fucker!

Btw, natsoc is the thing that terrifies the kikes the most. Thats what this whole thing the past few days is about. They are trying to kill the natsoc movement.

Don't let shills and civnat t_d brainlets win.

Always thought the swastika and term nazi held a lot of baggage

YEah that's what the Alt-Light is trying to call themselves and I personally don't like it.. Dont like when you just slap "New" in front of whatever, seems kinda lazy and dumb

>ZERO Neo-Nazis
How bout YOU fuck off!

Kekistan flag. SAGE your life faggot

This. We've been programmed to associate socialism-anything with the left. It's just going to hinder us much like the natsoc name.

don't make it socialism to begin with, shits broken

Yeh, if we're primarily going after right-wingers to begin with then this is the case. I mean, Bernie got away with the whole Democratic Socialism thing but we don't want the people that were okay with that anywhere near us.

My point right here. They think its actual marxist-socialism. Theyre too dumb to open a book

We must secure the existence of our people and a future for our children.

Will never die. It's a dance as old as time, as tribal as ever, a power immense. The beginning of all meme's. So fuck yer feels.

National authoritarian.

eat shit

>distribution of wealth through state means
>nationalize everything
>working for the state

I'm well aware of the bastardization of democratic socialism and also the authoritarian bent and tax needs that natsoc had.

I'm going to bring this up again tonight. Have any of you guys heard of the Estruscans? They predate Rome and basically gave birth to Rome.. A lot of the firsts in human history that we attribute to Rome actually came from them(i.e. Aqueducts) . They were the msot amazing artists and sculptures of their time so we might want to look at them for inspiration when it comes to aesthetics going forward

NATIONAL CONSERVATIVE

The established far right political scene in Europe call themselves National Conservatives. It will only associate us with European politicians. Who fucking cares if we get associated with the Polish or Hungarian government, is that not a good thing?

Charlottesville was an eye opener. Maybe even an epiphany.
We suffer the same ills that killed Sup Forums or any other great idea that becomes a movement. Our hubris has made us reckless.
We are in the right here. We have no reason to be flying banners or standing up to be counted or marching on cities. We are Americans. We memed a president into power. Our power level is >9000.
Our true power and what brought us numbers wasn't larping. It was showing up en masses online and in the meatspace as regular people to support our own views while the communists came with signs and violence and ruined their entire platform.
I venture that we should go back to this. Go incognito. Attend Trump rallies. Red pill the norm ies. Let the left chimp out like retards and burn themselves like we know they will.
We won't Ned to do anything but defend ourselves and our neighbors like we did before we got ahead of ourselves.

TL,DR: let the left dig their own ditch.

yes!

Here is a bit more stuff from the based Etruscans.. There's some documentaries available about them on YouTube... Or just search: Estruscans and take a look at some of their art

The lion from the pic above could make for a pretty fuckin badass flag

good too

basically you end up with the republican party before reagan which is fine. Maintains our republic leanings, reaffirms our conservative values away from the Frankenstein of the gop

I do like that. And we all will be secret holocaust deniers

dude.. i can actually agree with these terms i never agreed with the nazi rping although i did find it hilarious and i do have a negative bias towards niggers growing up in a fuck white people culture in queens new york i have no problem disavowing spencershill and david cuck please speak more about this cuckoldry you wish to enforce

seems like larping with cultures so distant from you we don't understand them and are projecting our own meanings onto them. Like the swastika.

why not use symbolism from early america? Christianity would be the spiritual cornerstone I would imagine (pagan larpers = cringe).

draw from the mythos of that book, like the Ophanim.

fuck you leaf your threads are almost as dumb as your pathetic country, heil hitler

fuck man i never thought of this its totally true.. good call user

This. The Nazis were Losers. It doesn't matter if they did some good things they still lost and they got smeared as evil Demons for over 80+ years in tongue and every form of Media.

Trying to emulate Losers never worked. Never will. Discard all their symbolism/history and start creating your own.

This is pretty fucking bang on Nordbro.. It says it all and I don't know if most people here are even socialists in any way. Conservation would refer to conserving our heritage too and you know some social safety nets for OUR PEOPLE aren't always a bad thing

There is no alt-right, faggot. Never was.
Now fuck off.

This thread is a good idea; but there's an interesting conundrum at play here. Nazi's are inherently funny and that's part of the reason they've taken off so well here, but that doesn't translate well with normies. The reverse is true for all the alt-right replacement ideas I've seen.
Personally if someone asked my political standing and seemed unlikely to be a landmine of rage I'd say something like Hardcore Traditionalist.

This, idiots waving Nazi flags scares off the normies, the key is keeping the support of the silent majority regardless of how right winged you are

Those stupid white supremists are making anyone on the right look bad while being inbreed ugly fat welfare leeches

YES!! The nazi stuff was a meme before, but now that actual nazis have reared their shaven heads, it's an issue. We must engage on both fronts to destroy both the Nazi right and the Alt-left in a tidalwave of memes

"ghost culture" essentially since we are ghost to the left and right no one understands the real meaning behind our means and beliefs

~hotdoggo warlord

>when you thought it was all ironic joking but everyone around you was actually a nazi

The actual nazis are alt-left. Keep it in mind.

This or I was also thinking we could go for some stuff that came out of the Renaissance, God knows there's plenty. And everyone from North America, Oz/NZ, and Europe can all relate

No we must make sure whites aren't all fucking dead in 120 years due to mass immigration. That's been the whole point of everything.

>NATIONAL CONSERVATIVE
I will use this in future.
Digits confirms it's a good idea.

Or, and I'm going on a limb when I say this... but how's about you just ditch the Alt-Right to die a quiet death in a gutter somewhere. I didn't care for them anyway, and frankly, most of Sup Forums didn't even give a flying fuck about them either. Spencer just had a "brilliant" idea that he'd try to get dumbasses like you to join his cause. Only, come find out, you bet on the horse that was just shitty to begin with. Fuck, even the God Emperor himself condemned you idiots. Albeit, he then lashed out at the ctrl-left, for bringing baseball bats to a peaceful protest, but he still called you out. More than enough of a reason for me to quit the Alt-right, and I didn't even consider myself apart of them to begin with.

We were doing fine back when our only activism was shitposting with smug frog memes and shouting out esoteric jokes on Shia LaBeaouf's stream. The left were destroying themselves without any input from us. We should've just stuck to what we were doing before.

THIS

We need to reject nazi-ism, it's fucking cringe at best and the leftists plan at worst.

this, i like national conservative

Hey fuck faces...
Heiling Alexander Dugin's National Socialism, and anyone who supports that kind of shit is literally no different. This shit is rotten to the core on both sides.

Alex jones is pushing Dugin. Dugin is pushing NatBol. Altright.com is pushing Dugin. You fucking idiots are falling for cultural marxism harder than BLM niggers.

ABORT THE ALTRIGHT ANONS!! ABORT!

not to be a huge fag but this label is cool and i dont want it to get lost in the posts ive been on here long enough where good ideas get lost and pop up 6 months later lets do this.. im in marketing and not a jew let me contribute

>using public opinion to determine ideology.
Your foundation is rotten. Try again.

Stop with the fucking totalitarian and authoritarian systems of government. No one wants to live under constant threat of wrong think. I don't care if you are Commie or some asshole fundamentalist Muslim. No one wants to follow you. We want to carve out a space that is free and we can limit who is allowed into it.

Immigration laws can be worded to not even mention race. Hence merit or wealth requirements. This would cut off most of the 3rd world from entering.

I don't even know why anyone tries. Half the LARPERS here are suicidal. The thought of creating chaos and burning in the flames is appealing to them.

> National Bolshevism***

To the Nat Socs worried about muh PR, don't forget that Hitler himself used red in the flag to appeal to the left and don't forget that National SOCIALISM was named that to appeal to the left. Hitler was a master at PR and I guarantee, if he were alive he wouldn't be encouraging white people to brand themselves as an 80 year old, foreign, defunct political movement. He would find new ways to make the agenda palatable as should you.

National Conservative is a good choice.

Exactly. Our strength is in exposing the enemy for who they are. This is Sup Forums for fucks sake. River of piss and all that. Anyone with half a brain and our access to information is bound to have some commonality but we got co-opted by "leaders" that started turning us into everything we hate about the left. They used to be afraid of Sup Forums to the point people got paid to shill the fuck out of this place. From the most recent shill fest I would say they believe they've won.

spiritual conservatism

sounds good

I mean, just ask the fags in Antifa. Closest thing to actual Nazis if I ever saw them. Reason why they're getting anyone to join their numbers is because they aren't in anyway associated with fascist thought, when really they are the fascists.

Exactly fucking this. What we need is a new Hitler and not clowns chasing ghosts of the past.

Stop labeling it as alt right you fags. It doesnt exist and is an convenient label came up by ((them)) to lump anyone they hate into one group. Ive hated the name since its inception and now its coming back to bite the movement in the ass.

Also, obv a shill post so sage.

Check out this:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_conservatism
>National conservatism is a variant of conservatism that concentrates more on national interests and upholding cultural or ethnic identity than most other conservatives. In Europe, national conservatives are usually eurosceptics.
How is that not exactly who we are? All the politicians we like are under this umbrella.

this.

back to the shadows. its nice to dream but being able to be pinned down lets them misrepresent you in media and take you down again.

>not one revision to the post after last thread
>that flag
Careful, lad. One'd think you were a shill.

>What we need is a new Hitler

this is why you faggots are losing momentum. I want my cultural identity to survive, not worship a fucking loser. Not cause other people pain.

I agree with the leaf.

Seriously!
Can I have my dank memes and weaponized autism now?

This is something for the leaders to decide, and the organizer of each event. You can't do this shit over the chans.

I've just created a Discord server for us. At this point I'm looking for someone who is into web design. Everybody that joins this server will be thoroughly vetted:

>deezcord.gg/ywZbT

I'm very much in favor of supporting, payments for people to leave the country. Rather than violence. A one time $100,000 payment would tempt almost all welfare families and would pay for itself after 5 years or less. There's no reason, that a white nation needs to come about through violence. Add to this a 300,000 cost to immigrate and use it to offset costs of the first policy.

We fail completely to be clear on what a white nation will mean for other races. Start telling them its $100,000 to move to Canada and it sounds pretty good.

>(((discord)))
>flag
Checks out

Duuuude. We should become the communists in everything but actual communism.

Fuck off back to r.eddit

It doesn't matter what you do or don't do, you are hated for being conservative. You will always be called out for something.

How hard is this to understand?

Sage.

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America has no cultural identity. It has some loose culture imported by Europeans as a base, the rest of this "culture" was created through jewish capitalism.