Sex refers to biological constructs such as reproductive organs and chromosomes

>Sex refers to biological constructs such as reproductive organs and chromosomes.
>Gender refers to the social standards surrounding one's sex.

Why is this so difficult for Sup Forums to understand? It's literally basic sociology.

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Yet people who are the wrong gender often get sex reassign surgery, which, you know, affects their reproductive organs.

Though it doesn't actually change their sex or gender. Just makes them cripples. I feel sorry for them. We need to stop liberals from convincing children to mutilate their genitals.

>Gender refers to the social standards surrounding one's sex.
It's called sexual orientation, and has nothing to do with standards aside from the fact that anyone who needs to specify their orientation has none.

Off yourself. People are fed up with your gayass pronouns and wishes.

then why is it necessary to change ones body if your personality is like an effeminate girly man

if changing your gender is as easy as saying, "im this now" then why change it in the first place?
Im not going to treat you different now that youre a different gender. you're still you, the person I know and treat and interact with a certain way.
if you start acting all different now then I was never friends with the real you in the first place, and I may like or dislike you according to how you act, like anyone else.

>then why change it in the first place?
Because it's cute...?

But that;s just wrong

>gender and sex are different
Nope, sage

>can't even construct a single argument

That state of Sup Forums, everyone.

"Im a girl on monday and a guy on tuesday"

so? youre YOU. Im not going to treat YOU any differently.

so then WHY "change" at all? unless you're not you and legitimately have multiple personality disorder

and surgery is rather disturbing, are you not confident enough in your personality that you need to change your body?
plenty of people have bodies they dont like.
you think ugly people have a choice?

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>Fails to respond to any other post
Your shit bait is cringe worthy mate.
Just fucking neck yourself

reminder to sage bait

if someone changes gender in order to be treated differently...arent they acknowledging that men and women are different?

I thought everyone was equal! so...trans are both sexist and homophobic.

There shouldn't be a difference. If there is a difference, then the concept of gender shouldn't exist because it's pointless and only serves to destroy western society and it's values by blurring the line between men and women. Traditional gender rolls are not a simple construct either, they developed naturally because women are naturally better at certain things, while men are naturally better at others. You only get a dysfunctional society when you pretend that a man pretending to be a woman can do everything an actual woman can do equally, and vice versa.

>claiming that effeminate men aren't men at all and are actually women

Too extreme for me desu, just make fun of them

>you will never body swap

>sex: a self evident fact of life that can be clearly observed
>gender: a term made up by a jew in an attempt to make his experiment seem more legit but the experiment still failed
one is real, the other isnt even verifiable.

The issue is if we should accept more than one gender roles. Historically there have been 2 and maybe its for the best

Sociologist here. Sociology is a somewhat useful field when it comes to business management and small scale organizations but when it tries to analyze things like cultures and societies at large, and especially "gender" it inevitably gets infiltrated and appropriated by Marxists/Conflict Theory faggots. Feminist theory is for fags and gender studies doubly so. Leave that shit up to Anthropologists.

Also OP is a faggot.

>maybe its for the best
The gender binary is pernicious and damaging to society.

Does this look like a man to you? No? Then it's a women.

It's really funny how people who support the gender binary but then disagree with what I just said above.

How? Also how would you know you are another gender if you have literally never been anything but yourself?

Bait. Sex and gender are the same and can be used interchangeably.

>Does this look like a man to you? No? Then it's a women.
You're saying that as if she is a woman just because she looks like a woman, which doesn't apply because that's Anzu Jammu, who is actually a woman.

Gender refers to how a noun or adjective is declined. The social standards surrounding one's sex are called sex roles.

idgaf vaginas feel better than assholes any day of the week and i don't like man ass

In order for gender to be socially constructed, your identity has to be agreed upon by a mass group of people who are involved in the social game. If you're a born as a man and see yourself as a woman, you're not a woman if people still see you as a man. You can try to force others to see you as what you see yourself as, and they might play along with you to accommodate your feelings, but they're lying to you. You instinctively know you're lying to yourself, and you know they're lying to themselves out of sympathy for you. You're biologically a male, you know it, everyone knows it. It's beneficial for everyone involved in a social game to be realistic about about what they know is true instead of denying it for feelings.

Anzu is built for sex

Having generally everyone follow two gender roles isn't damaging to society

Gender is a literary device for assigning pronouns to objects to simplify sentances. By adding more, or attempting to change one's own gender, you are literally doing the opposite of what pronouns are for.

Wtf her eyeballs tho

There is only one set of efficient standards so the distinction is irrelevant, anything drastically outside those standards is a worthless waste of time. its like saying there is a difference between spelling and grammar, and that you can just make up your own grammar as long everything is spelt correctly.

You're aware that girl is an actual girl, right?

Here's her YT channel, and she's addressed directly her sex multiple times because of this shitty meme.

youtube.com/watch?v=yz1Pd43qvUs

Fine. I'm heterosexual, not hetrogenderal so I'm still not going to fuck you no matter how many times you call me a bigot.

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gender based on sex makes sense, it's biology, chromosomes, roles and inclinations designed or evolved to fulfill functions related to procreation

gender based on imagination is random nonsense.

there is no such thing as gender, only sex and sexual orientation. if you want to be crossdressing faggot thats fine, but i'm not going to call you a straight woman. fuck off gender larpers

Not really, but you're entitled to your wrong opinion.

hormone replacement gets you kinda close

after a year on it people have started addressing me as female even in boy clothes, plus it makes you smell like a girl

Gender was invented by a pedophile psychologist late into modernity.

>nothing as hot as the smell of shit when you're banging that hole

I think I'll just stick with my "wrong opinion".

Society arises from primarily biology and the surrounding environment. So regardless of the semantics game you play, biological truths define the male and female human.

Why do faggots have such a hard problem understanding that gender is caused primarily by biology?

>Sociology

Congrats, still doesn't make it any less of a public health hazard. You faggots are still spreading diseases more than any other group.

>AND THE SERPENT SAID TO THE WOMAN; "YOU SHALL NOT SURELY DIE?"
(Genesis 3:4)

Why do faggots have such a hard problem understanding that gender is caused entirely by biology?*

It's the story that goes along with it that makes it nice.

>The gender binary is pernicious and damaging to society.

How so? We haven't had an issues with it up until now. We've had thousands of years of success in every field, and yet only in the past 40-50 years has this suddenly become 'damaging to society'. How is the breakdown of gender roles and the traditional family damaging to society?

Also, doesn't biological sex trump the societal norms surrounding sex? The societal norms are mostly determined by those biological affects. Men are - on average - bigger, stronger, and more aggressive. Therefore men do jobs that demand those traits. If you were to have a woman decide to be a man, she wouldn't be as big or as strong as an average man, so it's unlikely she'd be able to do all the things she should be able to do when fulfilling the role as a man, such as fighting, or performing demanding physical labor. Also, you may choose to define yourself as a man, but you do not produce sperm, nor do you actually have a male set of genitalia, you just have a franken-weenie that grows hair on the tip.

Society is determined by biology, not the other way around. Biological sex will always be the ultimate decider, regardless of what your brain believes you to be. You may grow your hair out, put on a dress, get fake breasts, and turn your genitals inside out, but guess what? Every single one of the 40 trillion cells in your body has Y chromosomes.

How can slimy, rapacious sarlaccs even compete...??

Aaaaand then the Myspace angles stop IRL and testosterone continues to hit them like the unstoppable truck it is. Every semi-successful trannie becomes completely unpassable by age 35. Many such cases.

Have a bio woman pic, though, for your troubles.

Because I'm not retarded?

as an atheist, I believe the libs have gone insane and are no longer rational. what is the diference between believing in a sky daddy or believing that people can change their sex.

there are pills to completely kill your testosterone to female levels you know
you're right about the tranny-angled photos though

There are only two genders, get over it. Anything else is attention whoring and should be treated as such.

How can Sup Forumslution reconcile the arrant hypocrisy of their catatonic misogyny, and hollow-headed worship of the what has cûck their pea-brains for centuries -- THE VIRGINA JEW?

>cognitive dissonance

agp

No, it cannot reach female levels. You are very uneducated if you think this, simply. Further, you can never get the estrogen flowing like a woman's.
Simply, you can never truly match a woman's chemistry, and vice versa.

Again, many such cases.
Sad!

Because liking pink pygmi horses as a boy or not liking to wear dresses as a girl doesn't make you an attack helicopter, it makes you an individual.
Gender politics seek to remove individualism.

>unpassable by 35

Kissless, touchless, never-travelled, basement dwelling, uneducated, NEET forever-virgin:
>D E T E C T E D

you definitely, definitely can match a female's level of testosterone
for some reason I'm guessing you haven't read much about hormones
estrogen shots give peaks and troughs in levels of estradiol similar to a natal female's menstrual cycle

Hahaha, whatever you say.

I understand you're trying to compensate with your shitty life by trying your hardest to convince yourself of the 'trap' fantasy, but trust me: You should run out of your own smoke cloud before you end up more depressed than you already are.

Gender is the influenced by sex.

>Sociology
>Relevant to anything

Someone doesn't know much about hormone replacement therapy.

>never reach sarlacc levels
>muh "I got my Ph.D in biology from Trump University for Melanin Dictates Degeneracy (summa cum lumpen)

Mama always said, if ya ain't gat nuthin' intellegent-like to say, go back to Call of Duty / Bestgore.com fapping.

>non argument ad homos
>post sarlaccs with 3-pac face kabuki masks and behind Vaseline lenses

Go home and be a family cûck, born-to-loser.

Ah, OK, supposedly you can actually kill your testosterone levels. But it still doesn't work, y'know, for actually looking not like a man.

That's why they all opt for facial feminization surgery and eventually get boob jobs because their gynecostia 'estrogen-created' boobs look mutilated.

idk it just gives you puffy conetits like pic related

Sex refers to the biological form you were born with, genitalia, etc.

Gender refers to the sexual identity you are compelled to be.

There is a physiological root to both that supersedes socialisation. A male is born with a masculine mindset, and vice versa. Gender is the masculine/feminine behavioural characteristics.

Sup Forums doesn't understand that some people are born with a gender behavioural state that contradicts their sex. Some males are born with more feminine or masculine characteristics than the medium, as some women are born with more masculine or feminine characteristics.

The issue is how we deal with these people. Since there is a physiological root to this behaviour (as it is documented in all societies in history at all points), we need to figure out whether these people can be cured. Do we cull them? Or tolerate them as long as they are not openly degenerate? It's a difficult issue

Saying that though, instances of transexualism does rise during the hedonistic part of a civilisation. I wonder if this is because the peak of luxury for a society lets people do what they feel compelled to do more easily, or if it has a social dynamic that is comes from fetishism and more sexual hedonism. A mixture of both probably.

Gender dysphoria is the second most lethal mental illness after manic depression. And it didn't exist at a relevant statistical level until we allowed kids to be medicated by liberal-minded school psychiathrists.

You will never be a little girl, and you'll kill yourself because your parents allowed a pedophile to poison your brain.

No argument was made to counter it.
>Hey if I define my words this way you can't argue!

Why do Turks look like asians.

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>(((sociology)))

gender refers to the written expression of sex (male, female) but not being called sex, since you need to express objects too (neutral), and some subjects are unknown.
>For example, respectively: Boy, Girl, Rock, Friend

sayge

my opinion > your opinion

>its literally basic sociopathy
fixed that for you

Gender doesn't exist. It's literally make believe. Transgenderism, poorly named, is when a person physically feels like their BODY is incorrect, which is why they so frequently kill themselves. It has nothing to do with mentality or personality or masculinity or femininity. Which is one reason why trannies believe so laughably; an MTF has no idea how a girl actually thinks, so he instead affects a ridiculous stereotype. FTM on the other hand are usually easier to deal with, as the female perception of how a man is or should be actually makes them behave better.

>Saying that though, instances of transexualism does rise during the hedonistic part of a civilization.
Literally 90% of modern "transgendered" people are actually completely normal, physiologically speaking anyway

got the names of the traps?

Of course its just an idea but its rooted deep in human history where every single culture plays the two gender roles. Ideas that work good for humanity are generally good to keep.

they get bioidentical hormones you dummy
you'll grow breast tissue almost always unless you're old

trannies can even lactate after enough time

Not two gender roles, two sex roles. Up until literally less than 50 years ago, Sex defined your role. As it should be.

>>muh freedomz
>>I will determine other people's gender

pick one

Because Turkic tribes make up a large swath of Asia and probably raped a bunch of Chinese people. (Turkmenistan anyone?)

Gender Is Not Real

Because the mongols conquered it.

Keep telling yourself that there's no difference between the sexes but these simple few quick fixes. It'll only end in further depression.

>sociology
now let's have a REAL science:
>XX=she
>XY=he
>some other combination=it
why it's so hard for mentally ill to understand?

>Gender doesn't exist. It's literally make believe
gender is informed by sex, it's why men act with masculine characteristics. It is no stretch to assume correctly that a man can be born with a "feminine" brain, as can we very easily observed. There is evidence, for example, that the brains of homosexual men are quite clearly and observably constructed similar to a woman's brain. The Hjernevask episode on gayness is good.

>is when a person physically feels like their BODY is incorrect, which is why they so frequently kill themselves
The body fails to meet the standards that they want, thus they kill themselves. The fact MTF people are so emotionally unstable and sensitive is similar to how a woman acts.

>so he instead affects a ridiculous stereotype
I think you'd find very often "true" people with this disorder act feminine and have flamboyant characteristics from an early age pre puberty. I think the inclination to operate as a stereotype is to over compensate for their gender confusion, in order to fulfil the gender role they are compelled to operate as, they go as extreme as possible, becoming very submissive sexually and romantically and acting incredibly feminine.

If you accept that males are programmed to act masculine and fulfil a masculine role in society, then you also need to accept that some males would be born broken and have more feminine characteristics.

Really? Prove it.

there are big differences, but you'd probably be amazed at how much of an impact our hormones have on this

its way beyond just physical appearance
thoughts, mood, sexual attraction, even brain size all changes with hormones

Yep

Well, I tried to save you, but some people just want to die in a basement jacking it to anime trannies.

>gender is informed by sex, it's why men act with masculine characteristics.
Personality is affected by sex. Gender isn't real. Naturally there are personality characteristics that are sexually dimorphic because of this, but individual variations which cross over an arbitrary middle line do not constitute "having the brain of the opposite sex". For example, you would not say that a man who is 5'6" is "female height", you would just call him a subhuman manlet. Likewise, a guy with one or more personality traits more commonly associated with a woman is not "female brained", but just a bitch.
But more importantly Personality has nothing to do with clinical gender dysphoria, they key symptom of which is physical disgust and rejection of their body and sexual development, not any kind of psychological phenomena.
>The body fails to meet the standards that they want, thus they kill themselves.
In many cases it's not just "not meeting the standards", but a sense of dread and disgust. More than just body dysmorphia seen in some body builders, there's just something inherently wrong with the peripheral nervous system. Case in point, HRT can greatly relieve these symptoms even if their body doesn't greatly change or get surgery, and also surgery doesn't actually improve symptoms or prognosis. If it were purely psychological, surgery would help, but statistically those that get surgery are just as likely to kill themselves as those that get HRT alone.
>The fact MTF people are so emotionally unstable and sensitive is similar to how a woman acts.
heh. I mean, it actually does make sense, but FTM don't act like men at all, so I lean more towards "having a neurological defect causes people to behave less rationally"
>I think you'd find very often "true" people with this disorder act feminine and have flamboyant characteristics from an early age pre puberty.
You'd be wrong, it doesn't manifest until puberty

>If you accept that males are programmed to act masculine and fulfil a masculine role in society, then you also need to accept that some males would be born broken and have more feminine characteristics.
Males are expected to do male roles because they are the ones physically capable of doing so. Same with women. How they feel about it is irrelevant to this face.

less than 1 percent of 1 percent of the population is trans, yet leftist trash will chastise you like a piece of shit if you dont understand their weird multiple personality shit and strange leaps in logic
someone born a man but a woman on the inside "has been a woman their entire life"
but someone who changes their gender weekly or even daily somehow ISNT choosing their gender?

so you can simultaneously CHOOSE YOUR GENDER and simultaneously YOU CANT CHOOSE YOUR GENDER YOU WERE BORN A X IN A Ys BODY

fucking insane leftist echo chamber virtue signalling pandering brainwashed communists...they simply agree on whatever makes them feel "morally superior"

>Well, I tried to save you, but some people just want to die in a basement jacking it to anime trannies.

Damn straight.

That's not a male. That's a biological female. I'm sorry that you fell for the meme and that this whole time you've been accidentally straight for her.

youtube.com/watch?v=yz1Pd43qvUs

On top of her explicitly clarifying multiple times, simply watch her for a moment and even you would admit a tranny could never pass that well.

Turks are what happen when Mongols rape Greeks and then convert to Islam.

This!
Delusional idiocy on both sides of the fence..

>Personality is affected by sex. Gender isn't real.
Those personality traits that fall into the category of being influenced by sex is gender.
>but individual variations which cross over an arbitrary middle line do not constitute "having the brain of the opposite sex".
I don't mean just individual variations, but an entire character of being. Sexual orientation, ways of operating, a male born with more behavioural characteristics that are tied a feminine role is pretty clearly more like a woman than a man.
>For example, you would not say that a man who is 5'6" is "female height", you would just call him a subhuman manlet
That isn't a good example. Body height might create a napoleon complex, but doesn't inform gender identity at all. If someone is inclined to be attracted to tall males, and be a guy at the same time, that is a female characteristic trait. Enough of these traits, they're probably more female than male psychologically.
>But more importantly Personality has nothing to do with clinical gender dysphoria, they key symptom of which is physical disgust and rejection of their body and sexual development, not any kind of psychological phenomena.
I think you are misunderstanding this illness, it's not just rejecting the body, it's also feeling compelled to be the opposite gender at the same time. That plays a key role in the rejection process. Of course the causes probably vary wildly, but more often than not, they likely feel they suit the feminine role more better than the masculine role.

This varies on a case by case basis, but the issue of identity supersedes the distress they experience in their body which they find uncomfortable. The key symptom is the fact that a man feels like a woman, plus being disgusted by their body.

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