Nazis are retarded sheep

nazis are retarded sheep

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His story is pretty mind-numbing.

In 1931, hoping it would help him get a job, he joined the Nazi Party. In 1935, when he became engaged to Irma Eckler (a Jewish woman), he was expelled from the party. They registered to be married in Hamburg, but the Nuremberg Laws enacted a month later prevented it. On 29 October 1935, Landmesser and Eckler's first daughter, Ingrid, was born.
A now-famous photograph, in which a man identified as Landmesser refuses to give the Nazi salute, was taken on 13 June 1936.

In 1937, Landmesser and Eckler tried to flee to Denmark but were apprehended. She was again pregnant, and he was charged and found guilty in July 1937 of "dishonoring the race" under Nazi racial laws. He argued that neither he nor Eckler knew that she was fully Jewish, and was acquitted on 27 May 1938 for lack of evidence. The couple publicly continued their relationship, and on 15 July 1938 he was arrested again and sentenced to two and a half years in the Börgermoor concentration camp.
Eckler was detained by the Gestapo and held at the prison Fuhlsbüttel, where she gave birth to a second daughter, Irene. From there she was sent to the Oranienburg concentration camp, the Lichtenburg concentration camp for women, and then the women's concentration camp at Ravensbrück. A few letters came from Irma Eckler until January 1942. It is believed that she was taken to the Bernburg Euthanasia Centre in February 1942, where she was killed.

Meanwhile, Landmesser was discharged from prison on 19 January 1941. He worked as a foreman for the haulage company Püst. The company had a branch at the Heinkel-Werke (factory) in Warnemünde. In February 1944 he was drafted into a penal battalion, the 999th Fort Infantry Battalion. He was declared killed in action, after being killed during fighting in Croatia on 17 October 1944. Like Eckler, he was legally declared dead in 1949.

If there is one thing that makes my blood boil when thinking about Nazis, is there idiotic and cruel laws and actions against Jews.

pussyfag

Here's a picture of him and his wife.

A happy German family torn apart by a retarded arbitrary legal system.

With Jews, you lose!

Not arbitrary in the slightest.

>implying other movements are less retarded, particularly communism

Except Irma was herself not fully Jewish (at least her father wasn't) and her entire family had converted to Christianity prior to the rise of the Nazis.

That's what I call arbitrary.

>muh Jews are responsible for slavery

Oh please, dindu nuffinry is for niggers, don't sink to their level.

>That's what I call arbitrary.

Guess what, the whole Nuremberg laws were pretty stupid. They weren't even based on "race" but on religion. They defined everyone a Jew who was self-identified as a Jew, even if that person has converted to Judaism before. Meanwhile, they didn't think of someone as Aryan if he or she converted to Christianity, ... even if their ancestors had converted to Judaism before.

The reason for this was that they didn't even know what DNA was. There was no way to determine who was Jewish or Aryan simply by a check of one's body. They could only determine it by checking paper records.

This is what made the whole situation utterly absurd. Hitler was killing his own people, the Germans, just because they were going to temple on Saturdays.

Converting doesn't matter. It was about ethnicity, and the reasons for the laws were perfectly sound.

National Socialism is the nemesis of Globalism, Communism and Capitalism. The only true system to support the worker, and the greatest economic recovery in the history of the world in the shortest time imaginable were National Socialism. That is why the entire Capitalist and Communist world combined to destroy National Socialism. The only real enemy of International Jewry. Is it any wonder they discredit it at every opportunity? Adolf Hitler reformed the German Banking system in this way: Hitler nationalized the German Central Bank. He removed it from private Jewish hands and returned it to German Governmental control. That is why Germany had a healthy growing economy when the US & UK were trapped in the Great Depression. The real reason for the Second World War was because Hitler saved the German people from Jewish Debt Slavery by nationalizing the Jewish owned and controlled German Central Bank. Within 3 years Germany went from having the weakest economy in Europe to the Strongest & was debt free, had no inflation, no trade deficit, was at full employment, and no national debt. International Jewry feared this example of what a free people could do once the shackles of Jewish Debt Slavery were removed. They destroyed him for standing up to them. That is why the Jews hated him. National socialism puts the economy, the state, everything under the nation and the goal is to best serve the nation.

Kek, everyone ran away, of course.

shut the fuck up neckbeard

this

>The only true system to support the worker

Everyone makes that claim

>greatest economic recovery in the history of the world in the shortest time imaginable were National Socialism

Read Wages of Destruction by Adam Tooze and get back to me on that.

>That is why the entire Capitalist and Communist world combined to destroy National Socialism.

Britain and France bent over backwards to accommodate German demands in the 30s, the Soviets were on fairly friendly terms until 1941 when Hitler attacked them without provocation. The United States steered clear of all of this until Pearl Harbor.

>The only real enemy of International Jewry.

So all that rhetoric about Poles, Gypsies, and Slavs being subhuman enemies of the Reich who needed to be subjugated/killed was for show?

the jews killed her
only the true jews were allowed to survive the war
it was the jews killing jews
using the whites as puppets
just like they do today
the biggest enemy to jews are jews that will dissent

scratch that last part I misread it

they were generally justified

Elaborate on this theory of yours

>they were generally justified
No, they were really not. The true redpill is that Hitler could have been a good guy if he ended up just being nationalist and ended up trying to liberate Eastern Europe from communism... rather than kill 11 million people in camps.

Hitler was an evil moron who thought the ends justify the means. They don't. You can't just kill innocent Jews because "muhhh Wall Street is dominated by Jews".

>11 Million
OY VEY

holy fuck go back to /leftypol/ you fucking cuck.

or die, desu the latter would be better.

>11 million

now, now user don't get testy ;)

Well... obviously you can? LMAO

>11 million in camps
Oh, you believe in the hollycaust

...

Could you be any more of a faggot? Kys

b-b-b-but duh infographics told me duh holocaust didnt hapen

Why would you dispute the 11 million figure? It is well documented.

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Cleva girl... 8/10

I get more angry at the Jews actions against the Germans before that and what happened to INVENT the Nazis.
But you probably don't know shit about any of that do you? Nope.

Its... filename related!!!

kek

Operation Barbarossa was a preemptive strike.

>So all that rhetoric about Poles, Gypsies, and Slavs being subhuman enemies of the Reich who needed to be subjugated/killed was for show?
You forgot to mention the 6 trillion of black transsexual women killed by Hitler himself.

The Soviet Union deserved everything Hitler threw at them and more, there's a reason they're still despised by anyone near them decades later

>But you probably don't know shit about any of that do you? Nope.
95% of Jews in Europe didn't do shit to hurt Germany before the Nazis came to power. They were peasants or workers or shopowners.

You know nothing about the circumstances back then. Even if all Jews were evil but only one Jew wasn't evil, it would have been wrong to prosecute them all - as there would have been 1 innocent one.

Hitler's actions against the Jews lost him the war, lost him Germany and lost the nationalist cause forever. You know that, right? Nationalism will be forever linked with Hitler's hated of the Jews. And now communists can claim the high ground for being the winner in ww2 backed by America. The same communists who killed 50 million people and would do so again if they had a chance.

>Operation Barbarossa was a preemptive strike.

The Soviets had their ass whooped by Finland not a year before and were still recovering from the last of Stalin's purges of the officer corps. They were in no shape for an offensive war.

Granted, the commissars, NKVD, and functionaries definitely had it coming, but Ivan the illiterate peasant? Please.

Ah so it wasn't "Jews" but Nazis were pursuing their clearly stated goal of Lebensraum.
>Soviets
Soviets were the party, ruling class, which seized power in a bloody civil war and instituted a totalitarian dictatorship.
Nazis starved and murdered ordinary people.

Yes I would actually, because the lying KIKE who made up that five million number Elie Wiesel, confessed to making up the number of non Jews who died before he died this year.

Look at this bigoted stupid burgerclaps defending Hitlers genocide
Do you really think being done with them would be such a bad thing?

>after being killed during fighting in Croatia
heh nothing personal svab

>Nazis starved and murdered ordinary people
You mean like the Soviets starved and murdered tens of millions of ordinary people?

Correction, I meant Simon Weisenthal.
jta.org/2017/01/31/news-opinion/united-states/remember-the-11-million-why-an-inflated-victims-tally-irks-holocaust-historians

Why couldn't you and the altrights be in that group?
Maybe they were but instead of getting pre internet doxed they were doxed irl and thrown into the pits

more like tamed wolf's.

95%, hmmm...

I wonder if those jews had anything to do with that whole attempted communist takeover, too? Or those communists you mentioned killing 50 million people? How many involved in that were jews?

I'd tell you to look at jewish involvement in these things but considering you're living in Germany it's probably all censored (because of jews). You don't understand the extent of their crimes against your people, and that's sad.

They follow the flock

Awww... buttmad that you and your commie cunt friends are being doxed are we? KYS communist swine

most of the communist revolutions across europe after ww1 were lead and made up unproportionally by jews. Would you take the risk? Also, the plan was to send the jews to madagascar, not kill them, but everything went out of control after the allies declare war on germany.

And...? If anything that proves that they had expansive ambitions. They also invaded Poland in 1920, but of course everyone forgot about that. The soviets were building a massive army and stationating it right before the german border. Doesn't seem like something that someone with defensive goals would do desu.

First, Soviets did it to people of Soviet Union, not to Germans, so I have no idea how this absolves Nazis of seeking to exterminate half of Eastern Europe and colonize that land.
Second, Soviets had no intention of starving people. They forced collectivization on peasants which led to problems and resistance, which in turn led to disruption in food production. Food was needed for cities and Soviets seized it from peasants. Criminal actions, but not a genocide or planned murder.
Third, "tens of millions", what the fuck are you talking about? Soviet archives were opened long ago. Most common estimates are 5 to 7 million. When you add all the murders and other deaths, 10-15 million people were killed. Horrific crime, but "60 gazzilion" is just wrong and offends logic, which is clearly your enemy.

It's your racist "friends" who are being doxed
I'm saying years ago they were doxed without the internet and these malcontents were taken care of

You want to be hateful and keep others down, you want to make trouble for everyone other than yourselves, you will find trouble

>he thinks he is free
Get a load of this goy.

>Food was needed for cities and Soviets seized it from peasants. Criminal actions, but not a genocide or planned murder.

>Mine for shekels
>Pay the ?

>someone with defensive goals wouldn't build-up army
>concentrating army on borders is agression
Flawless logic. Only Nazis can do that, if anyone else does it it's an agression. Idiot.
Soviets did toy with various ideas but there was no Soviet invasion coming in 1941.

I've never claimed 60 million ever. 60 million would be high even for Mao. Stalin is estimated to be around 20 million.
>Exterminate Eastern Europe
I swear to fucking God if you bring up that meme plan Generalplan Ost I am going to blow a fuse.
>Genocide
If I remember correctly the UN definition of Genocide also includes trying to destroy language and culture or removing groups from their homes (Ethnic cleansing) in which case Stalin is notorious. Crimean Tartars, Volga Germans, German East Prussia, the Russification and cultural suppression of all the Baltic states, the deportation of entire peoples to Siberia. Yeah, I'd say Stalin fits genocidal intention.
>Six to seven million.
HAHAHAHA. Nice try. NO ONE from 'Russian historians' to 'Revisionists' agree the number is below FIFTEEN MILLION. Twenty million at the most.

elfs

I suggest you learn what genocide is.

>And...?

It proves the Soviets were not capable of launching an offensive war against Germany in its state in 1941. Not to mention Stalin rather inexplicably both went out of the way to honor his end the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, (which included a non-aggression treaty that was valid until 1949) and was confident that Hitler would keep his end of the bargain so much so that he forbade his own troops from returning fire during the first day of the invasion.

If it wasn't clear I was talking about famine in 30's, not those crimes.
>GPO
Was real and was put into execution in Poland. See ethnic cleansing of Poles and murder of their intelligentsia.

>"or planned murder"

>Criminal actions, but not a genocide or planned murder.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_operations_of_the_NKVD

I was talking about famine in 30's. And no, it wasn't planned.

>exterminate half of Eastern Europe and colonize that land.

Remember when people were supposed lurked for a while before posting? You probably don't. Just for the record:

"The German made himself detested everywhere in the world, because wherever he showed himself he began to play the teacher. It's not a good method of conquest. Every people has its customs, to which it clings, and nobody wants lessons from us. The sense of duty, as we understand it, is not known amongst the Russians. Why should we try to inculcate this notion into them?
The German colonist ought to live on beautiful, spacious farms. The German services will be lodged in marvellous buildings, the governors in palaces. Beneath the shelter of the administrative services, we shall gradually organise all that is indispensable to the maintenance of a certain standard of living. Around the city, to a depth of thirty to forty kilometres, we shall have a belt of handsome villages connected by the best roads. What exists beyond that will be another world, in which we mean to let the Russians live as they wish. It is merely necessary that we should rule them. In the event of a revolution, we shall only have to drop a few bombs on their cities, and the affair will be liquidated. Once a year we shall lead a troop of Kirghizes through the capital of the Reich, in order to strike their imaginations with the size of our monuments. What India was for England, the eastern territories will be for us."
-Adolf Hitler 1941

>Soviet archives were opened long ago. Most common estimates are 5 to 7 million.
Nevermind you're just a commie shill.

*supposed to have lurked

>You want to be hateful and keep others down, you want to make trouble for everyone other than yourselves, you will find trouble
And hatred is certainly not your prerogative is it comrade? No hate for capitalists and capitalism? No violence against those who disagree with you? No trying to impose Marxism through the institutions the left controls while using groups like ANTIFA as your shocktroops. As always, the left projects.
>Ethnic cleansing of Poles
In the Wartheland, the Suwalki Triangle and Upper Silesia you mean? Yes, I don't deny it, those areas were annexed directly to Germany, Hitler wanted them Germanized for the same reason Stalin removed all Germans from East Germany. So the problem he faced after WWI with a of German-Polish areas would not occur again. Does not signal any attempt to wipe every Pole out of existence. They were all expelled to the Generalgovournement. It's wrong buts it doesn't support the scale of a plan like GPO
>Intelligentsia
That was wrong morally but strategically right and we both know it despite our moral reservations. Without them, resistance could not be organized as efficiently. It's not right but it makes a cold callous sense.

You're basically confirming what I said. Many would be exterminated and the rest would have a status similar to slaves. That was Nazi goal.

>Nevermind you're just a commie shill.
No, to be fair, I think he was talking about the Holodomor in which case the number is around five to seven million. I made that mistake as well.

>You're basically confirming what I said.
You basically didn't read the quote.

>it makes sense
It all makes sense. Whether it was morally wrong depends on your morals, which vary.
My only point is that those were the beginings of GPO.
GPO would involve murder of large part of those populations, destruction of their community, and the rest would become a sort of slaves.
I'm pointing this out in response to "Hitler wuz a good boy he fought the Jewish imperialists". Hitler and Nazis were extreme German imperialists and Lebensraum was the core of their ideology.

The quote says the Russians should be left to their own devices because they don't want to learn from the Germans but German settlers should take advantage of the spacious land and settle there. I don't see anything wrong with that as long as the Germans don't displace the native population. If Germany and its industry was managing the Ukraine it could probably feed all of Europe.

that guy = me
the crowd = Sup Forums circa nov. 2016

I basically did and it basically confirms what I said.
Ah yes Germans have the right to settle on other people's land and dominate them. How Jewish of me to deny them that inherent right. And if those people resist German attempts to enslave them, they are Jews and evil and should be removed. Nice ideology buddy. Too bad it's architect shot himself while Allied armies occupied Germany, and all you can do now is cry and bitch and peddle your revisionism on Thai escort services forum.

I know what GPO entails, I've read the 'supposed details' multiple times. All these supposed 'facts' come from scraps of several documents from plans that neither were approved nor agreed upon, several in fact that often contradict each other. Even Wikipedia admits that. None of these several plans even reached past the debate stage and there is certainly no evidence of even one of them reaching Hitler himself let alone being approved by him. Hitler ordered to let 'the Jewish question go until the war was over'. It's not a far stretch to imagine that things like deliberating what happens to the USSR to happen, you know... after the USSR is defeated.

Well... when you talk about neo-nazis, you might have a point there, since the neo-nazi movement was initially created, financed, and directed by jews in order to keep their victim status/sympathy train rolling along... along with their many activities larping as the kkk..

Leader of Kkk and American Nazis, Exposed As Jew, Commits Suicide:

jta.org/1965/11/01/archive/leader-of-k-k-k-and-american-nazis-exposed-as-jew-commits-suicide

Kikes and Communism went hand in hand in that era. No fucking wonder he had a hard on against the Jewish communists who took power after WW1. If the Mexicans over ran the US govt for a few years under the guise of communism, you'd never be able disconnect them from that in everyone's minds.

>Settle on other people's land
I'm pretty confident the Ukrainians and Baltic peoples would be quite welcoming of German help in redeveloping their countries after the shitty job the Soviets did.
>Dominate
Who says they have to dominate? What about cohabitation? Germans buy land and own it the same as anyone else. What's the problem?

>What exists beyond (the german cities) will be another world, in which we mean to let the Russians live as they wish.

Which part of that do you not understand?
That's not slavery and is certainly isn't the extermination you claimed before.

It wasn't a definite plan but the fact there were several versions and the fact they even planned it and started partly executing it just shows the extent of Nazi madness and brutality.
Directly going against image of hippie Nazis that cultists on Sup Forums try to force on everyone.
>A-Allies were the real racists
And I never really defended Soviets and Stalin so I have no idea why are you trying to use that against me. It was another brutal totalitarian regime, but slightly less "evil".
>Hitler approval
Hitler totally approved it, Hitler mentions the idea in Mein Kampf, and Hitler had no issues with mass murder.

Oh look... Here he is again. Will wonders never cease?

I'm pretty sure they weren't quite welcoming when German boot started stomping on their faces and they realized what Nazis intended to do.
>buy land
Germans didn't intend to buy land, Germans intended to seize it, just like they enslaved millions in WW2 and used them as slave labor.
Yeah Russians would live in virtual ghettos in their own land while half are exterminated and their intelligentsia is murdered, and they would be barred from any education or power.
What were they thinking, turning down such opportunity.

Do you realize that you are debating guys who believe that holocaust never happened and at the same time firmly believe in "100 gorillions purebred christian russians holocausted by stalin" figure?

Anybody remember that group of jews who stood up and gave the nazi salute at a Trump rally before the election?

I do. Somebody should post their pics. I would, but I'm not sure where I put them, and I don't have the time right now to look.

>Even planned it
And shit would have been done about it without Hitler's approval which he not have given. It was very common in Hitler's Germany for subordinates to make plans hoping to impress him and increase their own personal prestige. If anyone even saw these plans it was most likely Himmler
>Mein Kampf
Historical context matters. The Hitler who had decided to quit in the party in a jail in 1924 after a failed Putsch is very different from the Chancellor of 1933 and even more different from the Warlord of 1941. Hitler also said as soon as he became chancellor all Jews in Munich would hang until the bodies rotted. And of course that didn't happen. And again, Hitler doesn't mention killing every Slav in the USSR. He does talk about gaining land in the Ukraine but doesn't specifically mention what is to be done with Slavs living there.
>And I never really defended Soviets and Stalin so I have no idea why are you trying to use that against me. It was another brutal totalitarian regime, but slightly less "evil".
I never brought up Stalin in my last post, I don't know why you're bringing him up now.
>USSR slightly less evil
Fucking what?! Hell no, the brutality of the Soviet regime not only in numbers but in sheer cruelty goes far beyond the pale of Hitler. FAR BEYOND.

Actually I'm never debating them directly because you can't convince a cultist over internet. I'm doing it for other gullible people here who will read this and realize that one side is literally cultists who bend laws of nature in order to sustain their narrative.

the "i'm too smart for this I'm above my country" arm-cross

yeah glad this guy is dead

>not have given
Why exactly? It was fully according to his ideas.
>hang until their bodes rotted
That was too much, instead they shot them in mass shootings, and when they realized that it affects even their most fanatic soldiers they opted for ''humane'' option of gassing them. Wow, Hitler was a new man in 1941!
>FAR BEYOND
Not really.

>Anyone who believes 100 million were killed by Stalin is confused. 100 million is the death toll of all communist regimes of the 20th Century. Stalin contributes at least a fifth of that number though.
>Realized what the Nazis intended to do
Again, I don't accept the GPO as truth so what you think the Nazis were going to do in USSR is irrelevant to me
>Slave labor
Sorry kid but that's what you are forced to do in war with limited manpower. It was a war for survival and harsh measures have to be taken.

Jews did the Spartacist uprising.

I love how you are misunderstanding the purpose of this exchange and you're basically confirming everything I say.

>Why exactly? It was fully according to his ideas.
No, it wasn't. Which is exactly why I pointed out that Hitler never makes a mention in Mein Kampf about the fate of those Slavs that fall under German jurisdiction.
>That was too much, instead they shot them in mass shootings, and when they realized that it affects even their most fanatic soldiers they opted for ''humane'' option of gassing them. Wow, Hitler was a new man in 1941!
Shilling for the Holohoax. What a surprise. More evidence exists for Hitler being upset that Jews are being killed on the Eastern front and are dying in camps than there exists for any order given from him to conduct a 'Final Solution'
>Not really
Anyone who unironically says the Soviets were not more brutal than the Nazis is either a commie themselves or is historically illiterate. Which is it?

>Yeah Russians would live in virtual ghettos in their own land
They do that now. They would have been allowed to build their cities as they saw fit.
> while half are exterminated
lol no
>and their intelligentsia is murdered,
The Bolsheviks had already done that. We only wanted to kill them.
>barred from any education
As with the cities, they could have set up their own education system as they saw fit. Forcing the german one on them would only have led to resentment.
>or power.
This is the only part that is true, however they were barred from any real power to begin with.
They had been ruled by scandinavian princes (Rurikids), german Tsars (Romanovs), Jews (Lenin, Trotsky) and one Georgian (Stalin). Now they are ruled by a bunch of corrupt kleptocrats. German national socialist leadership would have been infinitely better.

>I love how you are misunderstanding the purpose of this exchange and you're basically confirming everything I say.
Explain how I am doing this

lmao at anyone saying he didn't know that was a jewess. Sounds like he got what he deserved.

>purebred russians
That's an oxymoron. You're clearly part asian.

>huffington post

guys it's bait, sage and leave
how did we not know this?

According to you. Guess you can try again but given how modern Germany is comparatively far weaker than Nazi Germany, I don't think it would go well.